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America is in the war. And why did that touch you so much. Because we knew that it was going to lose it. What did that mean for you and hungry. I was 18 yes. But with that interview with the late author john lewis. It was born 20 years ago. Over 230 of the leading nonfiction and fiction authors of our time have appeared on in depth. Just to name a few. Over the next three hours our goals is to review the last 20 years of indepth but also to ask you a couple of questions here they are. Who was your favorite indepth gas what book are you reading now and who is your favorite Nonfiction Author. And thats what will be talking about. We will be showing you some video from the last 20 years as well. Heres how you can dial in on the 20th anniversary of indepth. For those of you in the east and central time zones if you live in the mountain and Pacific Pacific time zones. And you can text him what your thoughts are as well. 7488903. Please include your first name in your city if you would. On social media at book tv for facebook, twitter and instagram we will begin taking those calls in just a minute. John lucas was the first guest and that was february 6th of 2000. That same year in 2000 richard rhodes. He was one of the gas. The heart of the aristocracy. It is interesting. To use the example of your daughter. Have i not chosen army instead. The schools are but control the opinion of the rich and allpowerful. Adhave a stepbrother who was going to inherit a lot of money. And he was sent to groton. For those who will be rich. But then to go to certain values. This is how the opinion is formed. With political training. I belong to the ruling class. A misstep brother. Im not going to inherit any money. We will become judges editors of the New York Times. And those are open to us. Bankers. Into not properly speaking by birth. A member of the ultimate class. There has always been a move in england where as you point out they know about the upperclassman were not told. We are the most incredible class. They own the newspapers and the newspapers are not going to give the game away. Who controls the opinion. To be there and never be named. But they dont really get through to the people at large. They go on and on. In the maverick appears among them. By and large it is a closed corporation. He passed away in 2012 his books include the united states, were taking the calls on these topics. Who is your favorite Nonfiction Author. It includes the first name and city. It was in 2001 that the fiction author Toni Morrison appears and she is the winner of beloved here is a little bit of her. How do you get inside the psyches of these people. You try to make it specific. You want to be in that persons had if youre on stage to wear the clothes wear the shoes. Behave that way the person would. You enter a project. Where they part their hair. Whether or not it appears in the book you try to imagine all of those things. That works for me. I dont judge my characters that way. Nietzsche love them need to love them for the moment of their portrayal. Whether they are old or young. The two they develop as you write. Its what they are supposed to answer. What i must feel like were in paradise to hear about those people they were not welcome there. I know what the story isou about a sort of know the journey. Now had to find out whos in a work that out for me. I did not want to know too much about her or what she looks like et cetera. I just needed a few strokes to start. And then i put them together. They are never fully realized immediately. Personal introductions and anything i can do to get them to speak and trust me. She in 2001. We started the show. But the war in afghanistan started that day. We have to cut it short. We brought it back for a later date. He is one of the few that have ever appeared appeared on the program twice. Which of those three questions that you want to answer. My favorite author is mary roach. Did you watch her when she was on indepth. I have also replayed on the website a couple of times. Youre very entertaining. I like how a lot of her books just had the one word title. She is email me back. Thank you for calling in. Lets talk to david in louisville kentucky. David, good afternoon. I want to answer the question about one of my reading. I am reading a book called twilight of the gods by ian w toll. And talks about the conclusion of the effort against the japanese in world war ii. We recently have the 75th anniversary we had covered him on book tv. I was anxiously awaiting the third volume of his trilogy. Is it world war ii that attracts you . In specifically the theater. Because of the notoriety of the pearl harbor attack. The surprise that it garnered. In just the story how it was a difficult task the japanese have all of their advantages there early on. It took quite an effort for us for us to become victorious. Thank you for calling in. Sometimes we take it on the road. We went to hillsdale college. Its right before the president ial election at that point. Dennis was on the program. Here is part of his presentation. Is there anyway we can come the socialism is a utopia that the left is promoting. You and i both know they are disestablished in the america that we love. K that is exactly what is happening. Its not opinion. They are undoing what the founders meant to do. There is one simple answer. Aside from all of the arguments that i gave. Frankly i have no pity for you. Your generation votes democrats. I had zero pity for when they have the tab. I will be gone. Or i will find my at retirement account. It really has no effect on me. It will go bankrupt just like greece and portugal. Just like italy. Just like venezuela. W we will also. We will be a borderless country because the left wants a borderless country. They dont believe in it. They dont believe in national identity. It will not be any different from canada or mexico. So this will all happy happened to you. A once great country. That existed. Thanks to the indoctrination you got in high school voted for. That is my message to millenials. That was dennis prager. All of these programs are available to watch in their entirety lets talk to carol in Prince George virginia. Which of those three questions do you you want to answer. The one i want to answer is about my favorite interview on indepth and it was the year that they did the fiction. I am a super fan of his. It was such an engaging really involved interview. Every time i get a little lonely. I go on the archives. And i watch the interview again. Follow him wherever i can. Whether it is fiction or reporting. Is it the topic of National Security that interests you i am particularly interested in intelligence and the work you cia. I dont have any professional background in it. I think he does a job of dispassionately. With the work of cia and other intelligence agencies are. In terms of protecting us nationally. We will look at some of those fiction authors that we did. I believe it was in 2018. You cant get through on the phone lines and want to text your message please include your first name and your city. At book tv is our handle for facebook and twitter. Shelby was one of the authors who appeared in 2001. We visited his home in memphis. That is the kind that used to be in post offices. Its an absolute nightmare. I dont worry about that. I was lucky i found a whole bunch of points in the and dusty old stationary shop. I brought myself a lifetime supply. That is a big problem. And doesnt take anything the way it used to. The rest of the manuscript. At the end of each day that i put on the stack. And then i type it up for the printer. Is this the original are the copy. As the final days copy each day. I would and the day by making the final copy. How many other of your originals are there. They are not up here. Any idea how valuable those are. There it is. It was an open federal sky. I read that. He was one of the favorites. Who was it. He was an irish immigrant. He became a lawyer. With the military because he have a hitch in the british army. With the franklin and the last year of the war. We were really good close up there on the board. Not from such a distance. You mentioned him even earlier. He was born four years into the century. They have a tremendous influence. On the variety. They were trying to figure out all of those things. And they passed away four years after that interview in 2005. From dubuque iowa i am currently reading cass. I highly recommend it. They have now appeared on the q a program on sunday night. Just type her name in the search function at the top of the page. Good afternoon. Welcome to book tv. Thank you so much for taking my call. There was a woman who called the agencies like the cia. I had had quite a bizarre life. I am changing the world for my dining room table. From the heartbeat of america. I am also a whistleblower. The things that i discovered. We will still reach out to that. And empower the people with the freedoms that we have. It is titled the cave e. G. Kb g the eyes of russia. Thank you sir. John in huntington kansas. Hutchinson kansas. Good afternoon. Have a question i have a question maybe you or someone could answer. Untrue tv i watch in the newspaper about russia interfering in our elections. And this goes on and on. Nobody says a word all foreign governments should not interfere with our election in any way shape or form. We are talking about books today. And our 20th anniversary of in depth. Thank you sir. Brent good afternoon. I cant remember the authors name. Is that the new one he has a new one out on dewey defeats truman. Pretty interesting book. Does it have to be nonfiction. It would be thomas berger. He has written about 18 or 20 novels. He is known for one book. It was a little big man. Some people say hes not so well known. And also they wrote a take off on the king arthur legend. He is known for the english language. Nobody let rights like the guy. Where do you get your books. Online it at the library. It is stranger than truth. There is no one like him. I got on a site that if you like this author youll like this. I entered his name. I got a book by time. White noise. In and a couple other books. Is it a specific genre. I dont know. No one writes like thomas berger. In 2002. Our guests included cornell west. Tom clancy. Bell hooks, our first guest of 2003 was phyllis. Your member kennedy was assassinated in late november at that time i was the63 president of the Illinois Federation of women. At a whole series of republican speech as scheduled. I worked up a new speech. How political conventions are stolen starting the first week in december of 1963. They told the story of how the rockefeller establishment. And they have given the domination to lead to ours. And by march i realized i can put it in the book. It was a world when year i wrote it on my my little standard typewriter at night at home. We needed it and 64. That is the little publisher i set up. I sent it off to the printer in march 25,000 copies arrived at my garage. I typed out a one page letter that said dear friends please read this book today and then buy enough copies to send to your delegates in the Republican National convention. I typed typed a stencil in those days. I put the stencil on the round thing. I had 100 letters out. One of them was read by a friend in the california. Who called up and said im going to an convention this weekend. I loaded them up in my station megan. And set them out there. We had state wide distribution in california and the primary was the first week in june. And we sold over a half million copies. Before that first of may and the first of june. They used the title. The minute i heard it i knew that was it. Gas is calling in from chicago. Gus, what are you reading, who is your favorite author or your favorite inDepth Program in the past 20 years. I am technically reading two books. I am reading a fiction novel. Basically the life and time of the orphan. My favorite author regarding that. A nice gentleman. They have a narrative that is similar if you read fiction or anything like that. That kind of nice case. Probably the best authors regarding criticism. And my favorite indepth gas. Its like asking your favorite child. My favorite is chris hedges. Theyre both great men with a lot of knowledge. I had worked in campaigns. I was studied engineering. I have dealt with a lot of advocacy. With the members of chicago. Moms arising. Im also a member of a couple of individual chapters. When im not doing that im walking my dog about 50 miles a day. Thats why im hundred pounds lighter. Give her your type. It was in 2002 that one of our fiction authors appeared and this is tom clancy. See mike how author does as offer author come out with his first book and have a best seller. Your neck and i hear that thing. The book came out. In october. Of 1984. In november of that year. A gal at the post and the times was a murder retired marine colonel. He wanted to get a copy of the book for his friend in argentina. Her name was nancy clark reynolds. She really does know everybody. Ak they would take the book down there. Its a long flight from turkey to buenos aires. She comes home. She buys a whole case of books. He would read two or three books a week when he was president. With alexander staley. Heard the talk. And decided to do a book about me a book and the president. He worked for present reagan. That was tom clancy who passed away in 2013 in 2003 he was a guest on indepth. We have already looked at here. Bernard lewis. Carlos deste. They were all our guests that year. Mike is in lakeside california. Mike, you are on book tv. I was just calling to recommend for our fellow citizens couple book there the first one they are both shared books. The first one is imperial america. It is dreaming more. I like the author and his writing style because its sort of a political family. He can has this old world stoicism. And he tells us the truth about a lot of the present things with that stoicism. Its a nice way to relay that information. You are on book tv. Good morning. I will start from the top. With a book i am completing now which is very well written. As is a biography of churchill. In my favorite Nonfiction Books. As the rise in evan thomas. Now i will get to the two authors both of these gentlemen and i know each of them a little bit has written eclectic books over the years since he wrote the wisemen. The wisemen i talk about all the time with people. The subjects of the book have a huge in fluence on foreign policy. How do you know what is isaac send or evan thomas. Our sister is bedell smith. She is an author as well. And she has written about Queen Elizabeth. I do with their Nonfiction Book. Sally of course has been there. Sally vidal smith has written several books on the english monarchy and other topics is wellknown to as well known to the book tv audience as well. You for calling in. The prosecutor in the 1960 manson murder cases. It is a very famous book. He appeared on our program in 2007. And here is a little bit. Absolutely. You missed at the end of this book. All of the conspiracy people who thinks its a conspiracy. All of the groups that could possibly be involved. The whole world would have had to inspire to kill president kennedy. With my president ialmi illustration you cannot believe this. It was one continuous lie we set it all. He have the correct date. Correct it was a murder. They got together on this one. Who did it. W like i did for Time Magazine a couple months ago to give me a page and then if you are interested with the conspiracy. I actually know what well likely i at your cry dances are not any evidence at all why the nature of life the whole ability now and so the point the point toward your guilt and an extremely unusual rare situation maybe well read pieces of strong point toward your guilt will your case here peter can meet points towards Lee Harvey Oswald guilt three separate pieces of evidence pointing toward the old guilt it would not be humanly possible for him to live in the world like we live now. Only in a fantasy world can you had 53 pieces of evidence plane towards your guilt and still be president. In 2004 here is our list of guests thomas fleming. And then on september 5 that year we went to the strand bookstore and we did a profile of the strand. And then the late tom wilson december about 30 of those authors are still active and writing. My favorite author interview. It was special to hear about his career. Best wishes for another 20 years of depth. We appreciate that. In 2007 it was Newt Gingrich who was our author. He was quite a prolific author. He wrote several books. The section working to show were to show you hear from 2007 is a little bit different. We will explain it afterwards. Le we start over here with a sound bite. In the continuum. We are in one of those fascinated periods of dramatic change where we could have an enormous dialogue in the country i think you have something from second light. Let me give you an example of how i see this stuff over the next five or ten years. It will be a new one. Lets watch and we can explain how this works. Let me just say these are some of the teething pains of new s technology. The beginning of a very different kind of system. People from all over the world can come together and can share ideas. I think its very important to look at how this technology is going to evolve. The First Successful manifestation. N. It is a Virtual World inhabited by real people was pioneered in Science Fiction novels. With the 1992 snow crash. A came in the form. Real worlds. I am delighted to teach a workshop here in a second life but im not the first to do so. Harvard Law School Professor taught a class last c year inside second life about law and the court of women. More people engaged in study groups and workgroups. In this kind of second a life and other kind of metal verse environments. Meadow verse environments. They are so effective. It was kind of an early version of an avatar. You can see how far technology has come in the last 13 years. Hi sarah. I am calling from vicksburg mississippi. I look forward to watching cspan to every weekend and especially the first sunday of the month to see who the latest author will be. I will tell you can hit you hit the mute on the tv. My Favorite Book of nonfiction is coming of age in mississippi by enmity i think she wrote her memoir in 1968. It is the only book that i have read twice. My Favorite Book of fiction is song of solomon by Toni Morrison. I know you had have tony on several times but i dont recall ever having in moody on. If her book came out in 1968 book tv started in 1998. I think she passed maybe two years ago. Another producer is looking up right now. She does not ring a bell. We had limited over the years we stayed with a nonfiction that wouldve been and a very appropriate book given the title. Is required reading here in mississippi. Im just a book person, i love books. What book is sitting on your table right now. I just finished reading claudia ran kinds book. Just as and i am presently reading her other books citizens in american there. I am also reading right now wandering in strain lands. I have seen her on your program. Claudia rankin has been on as well recently. I think she was on last week or the week before. Did you pick them up because a book tv . I was a book seller years ago i still get the new york review of books. And also, when i see new authors on your program and it sounds interesting i will order. I believe in patronizing. Thats it for now. A lot of history in and vicksburg mississippi. Do you ever read any Historical Books about the civil war especially the attack on vicksburg . Right now i am trying to think of the authors name. I cant think of it right now. I gentleman who wrote mississippi in africa. There is another guy who just passed away. He also wrote for us come. I apologize im blanking on his name. He just passed away recently. Thank you for your time this afternoon and we really appreciate it. Thank you for watching. Hygiene. What are you reading. Who had you enjoyed watching on book tv. The book that i am presently reading is not that im calling about. She does not address in this book. The subject that im really reading about. And thats the ghetto. I wanted to mention my Favorite Books im africanamerican i was born and lived in the ghetto until i was able to escape it the first book that i read that really it was like a bible to me in explaining the construction and persistence of the ghetto that was a book that was written in 1993 by massey and den. The segregation in the making of the underclass. I never forget one of the sentences and statements that they made and the book in the book and it was would like people moved into predominantly right dash mike white communities. White people must have somewhere that they can go where blacks cannot follow. After that happened and i experienced it. The powers that be will make a community that he moved into the ghetto. The second one was written in 2009 he is a professor at princeton university. Wrote a book called family properties. And what really struck me in that book was the idea that when the fda would not give blacks mortgages we have to buy houses on contract. In the contract was held by a realtor or the owner of the house and the stipulations of the contract was such that you never could pay off of the contract. Then they sold it to another black under the same kind of circumstances. And then the third book is one written in 2016 called ghetto. The invention of a place of the history of an idea. Another princeton professor im interested in the subject of the ghetto because i see it as a pillar of race in america. Of the idea that the ghetto is where blacks log with the Educational Opportunities that we might be able to access. What is your comparison between the warmth of other sons. And i just started reading it. The word ghetto is not in the index but she talked a lot about it. The people that made that great migration. Will not share cropping on farms. Even though initially blacks did not live in what is called the ghetto certainly by the 1940s they did. Where did your parents begin their life and where did they end up. Where were you race. I was born in chester, pennsylvania. The ghetto is where i lived until until i was 16 years old. When my parents managed to buy a house. The ghetto was the place that it was designated that we should live. Even to this day. That pillar of race process. I was reading the book. And i have to be honest. The thing about it. We know the history of them. He does the same thing that is going on a lot over the past decade or two. All the socalled sources and they dont really had sources. We wonder how we allow this to happen continually had you read any of his other books this is the first one. I have seen them around for decades. We dont know the history of them going all the way back. Getting back to this. How do we keep allowing this to go on in guys like woodward and any others benefit from them. With this anonymous. He certainly wasnt a high level source. We allow that to go on. And they profit from it. You even see in the news all the time. What winner we can when are we can get back to real journalism and can should they have training in journalism. What made you pick up this book. I kept seeing it so much. I just head to go. And take a look. When i see things like this. So blatantly going on. I feel like im back in europe. Where they have blatant propaganda. That is why we are fighting all the time. With each other. Were not making the writers. Without having sources that they can verify they should not be able to cite these people. It is hurting our country. Where to leave it there. In 2000 find. They were in the fifth year. A fiction writer. Was also our gas. It was in 2013 that a caller reference this author a little bit earlier. Mary roach who is often very humorous in her writing appeared on the program here is a portion of that. I didnt really care if someone had done it space. I said. There is all of the commercial flights. We would stand to lose a lot of money. Im guessing maybe one of the staff at the core may have ene that. Its one of the only flights where they were working out the kinks. But no ones owning up to it. The research on that topic included located a star. There was a trilogy called. There was a scene shot in zero gravity. It does the parabolic flights. You could tracked down the producer of the experiment. We have a conversation about this. You got a pilot to do a zero gravity flight. We have to check the plates thoroughly afterwards. And then i downloaded that experiment. And i fastforward. I got to the scene in zero gravity. And right away if you know anything about zero gravity you can tell that this is fake her ponytail is not how it would be. Githere was. On evidence. They are standing behind their sofa going up and around. The money shot they kind of just flipped it sidewayss it was fake. That was mary roach in 2013. Who is your favorite author. An indepth guest. My favorite historian is howard zen. The disobedience of a democracy. Is the first book was on governor laguardia new york. Certainly their runnerup. I think this is a really fantastic look. I dont know if he has been on. His name is larry ty. Hes written many books. It is about the senator joe mccarthy. It is a fantastic book. I think it just came out. In the last month or two. I think we had covered it. Or hes can be on shortly i think we had cover that. If you go to book tv. Org. You can type and at the top of the page. There is a search function curtis, vancouver washington. I wanted to remind you of the name you are overlooking. I would recommend his. 1942 about the history of the world. A lot of behindthescenes iings going on in it. Ive very delightful person to meet. Have you ever had hansen on. He is one of my favorite historians. His classical education in the education it was one of his books. And what they have. Like the battle of delian. They have a big influence on history. The americans learned to be just as brutal as the japanese. The author have to back track back and forth. P have made up for it. He is still very active we have a weekly column. I look forward to seeing him on tv too. He in fact was under afterwards programs a couple months ago and it was a book in support of president trump. I dont know what that does to your opinion. A biography of same look for. It has a lot of very nice insight with the original career as a copy boy. And then onto his career as a documentary and a filmmaker. Another book to recommend is the trilogy about the war in that pacific. You are the second caller to recommend that. Also good on his pacific book. In the european war. Its really good. The favorite author grown up. For books to recommends i got some books for reading. And the way they kept the place. It covers that treasure of our tongue. And African Genesis about the development of humanity from primitive pre civilization by robert audrey. Who retired from writing scripts for movies. He wrote the script for the cartoon. Curtis, you seem to put a lot of times with books. As is this a hobby. I had one whole room dedicated to a library that i have to tear out. They are all boxed up in the garage. I always have a few on hand reading. I also wanted to recommend. For the civil war buffs. The trilogy about the u. S. Grant starting with captain cm grant. They passed away after taking all of the notes. He passed them all on everybody in the civil war knows him. There was one great in a doubt when that came back from vancouver. They have a time at the post here. C auntie came back to galena, illinois and one day he came into the store in the middle of a rainstorm. And we have a guy sitting around. He was a very prominent local lawyer. He said i sure feel like it. The guy said whats it like. Same as here. The lawyers are closest to the fire. I am in Aerospace Engineer who transitioned with the peace dividends. I am a substitute schoolteacher semiretired. We appreciate your time on book tv today. Carolyn in sac city, iowa, and the irregulars. And the british spy circle in washington. They have appeared on book tv some several times. Glenda is in humble texas. I just wanted to call botention to the book called grant as well as his book on alexander hamilton. A lot of people today books that are that long. I find his books just hard to put down once you start. They are so will done. I really appreciate thatpr in the current climate of played playing so fast and loose. The other writer that i really enjoy and would recommend to anybody. Is richard burr kaiser. His most recent book give me liberty. It is an excellent thing for people to read right now. Goes back to a time that has been under attack and follows the real origins its not a long book. But it is so worth your time. Thank you for calling in. N. They have appeared on book tv several times. A year or so back we did an interview with the historian Richard Brooke kaiser. She had written a book how to get along with your friends and neighbors politically if you dont agree on politics. We interviewed them in their apartment in new york. You can watch that online i at book tv. It was in 2002. On one of his many appearances on book tv and cspan that this gentleman appeared on in depth. Here is a portion. How do they intersect. When you listen to that it brings together the spirituality and the and the spirituality of the giving and serving. O the questioning end of the into the profound love and compassion that you get out of the rich judaic tradition. That was brought together. He takes it to such a high level. In terms of his musical genius. We simply do not have a poet of so profound compassion. This disappointment. And wrestling with the steady misery. The heartbreak of daily life but trying to convince us to keep on. Thats what i keep keep on. Late at night and they are still losing. But feel unsteady and an accusing. There is a level of compassion and love that you dont find in too many other artists. To get the fusion to get that in one figure. They check up when i was 17. In 18 years later joining us now. L dr. Cornell west. Gr they just want to creat congratulate you. It has been in the midst of a very grim and bleak time. You had been so kind to me and some of the other voices as well. I hope your loved ones are strong and safe. Each day is a blessing. I am still tied to that. Cornell west ham ebooks are you up to now that you had written. I dont even count. Maybe 20 or 21 or Something Like that. Its not a matter of the quantity the equality of the words on the page. You hope that they can unsettle some minds and power some souls. And try to heal some parts in the best way that we can. Are you working on a book now . I have these different lectures in scotland and its on catastrophe both of the parents died in that bubonic plague. And made his way through the various monasteries. He in became the first great public intellectual. It goes all the way to Toni Morrison. A lot of figures in between. They are culminating with tony morris. It is in the making. I head about two years to work on these. At the moment we are just trying to get through the election. We will be reading aj hopkins. And the global history. With the university of cambridge. As the treatment it is the treatment of the american empire in the client just elites across the board. That they dont have the power required. In all of those ships that were just going under because we lost access to the best of our past. Unable to mobilize with the spiritual and moral as well as political that can keep a very fragile experiment in democracy alive. I think thats where we are now my brother. Thank goodness the life of the mind is still at work. Its always insufficient because we have to have courageous citizens and loving humanng beings all of us in some way that we were laboring under certain frameworks and the lens in which we look at the world. It comes from musicians. Shelley is right. They are the unacknowledged legislatures. With the on apprehended inspiration. In the shadows of the future cast on the present. They were appropriating dante. He understood we have to be connected with our past and who our ideas are we hoped a focus hope to focus on the least of these. All around the world. The begins with the hebrew scripture. That steadfast love. Those who been rendered invisible. Thats a covenant that god makes with israel. What are you doing for the least of these. What are you doing to those who are dominated and occupied. No one of us ever has that kind of truth. Your own formation in family. That humility. On the unbelievable compassion that you see. More giving together different people who were at each others throats. They try to create some kind of peace. Beyond justice. Eighteen years later. I am to still be alive. The robbie george. Absolutely. Thats the truth. We have a great time. We do have a book though. We have jointly written that reflection. We have a magnificent time on your show. It was trying to hold up to the best of your ability. In the anytime we talk about gender identity. As got to be rooted in integrity. A solidarity across generations. So the moral and the spiritual standards that we all fall short of your must always be highlighted. I think thats part of what were dealing with right now. Just to tell our audience if are not as familiar. One of the best friends and he happens is that a fair assessment. We have a love thats not reduced to politics. As acknowledgment of how we can level. Its also an understanding of the difference between deep love and mail justice. It was grounded. They are right about that. You love somebody and also have deep political disagreements. You end up living in your own silo. You always understand that. Thanksgiving dinner you sit around the table. You have some disagreements going on. And even moms and dads and brothers and sisters. You would still take a bullet for them. That is the love that we talk about with justice. I dont want to lose site his humanity. To lose sight of the fact that if you did not consent to his activity and change his life he could do it if youou really wanted to. But he chooses not too. As long as the choice that we have to go another way to be betterhe you dont ever want to lose sight of that. T. You hate the said but you can try to stay in contact. As i learned. Al the kingdom of god is within you every way. The question becomesco what kind of heaven behind are we really easy in terms of our relationship with others. Our concerns with those in somalia and ethiopia. It has to be international. As part of the greatness of the prophetic legacy of jerusalem that every flag for christians are to be under a cross. That ought to be under that an nameable yahweh. It shall pursue. Not just for the group where or the ego. For all of those who suffer. These are some of the great moral truths of the species as we lose sight of that. We end up losing american democracyoc we end up losing the best of ourselves. What does it profit a nation to gain the whole world t that is on the irish side of town. Wn his literary genius. It is a pleasure to see you virtually. We look forward to seeing you again in person. Thank you for your time here on in depth. Congratulations brother, stay strong. This text message from pittsburgh. He was our year in fiction. Which was in 2018. We did at 12 fiction authors. And colton was our guest. It was was in 2006 that our guests were ron powers. Mark bowed in. Tammy bruce. John hope franklin. And president jimmy carter. It was in march that here is a portion. You are also interested in photography . That has been a longstanding hobby of mine when i was a kid. I gave it up for about 15 or 20 years but then the digital age hit. En ive been doing it for about ten. I travel a lot. I always take the camera wherever i go. I got interested in being able to control lighting and doing my studio type work. I have this in your a ritual so that we have a very clear clear record of what we look like. One of these days i would like to take pictures of all of my friends because i know some pretty interesting people. Unfortunately i had been a little bit too busy to do that. Is this where you do your portrait work right here . B i can set it up with all of my lights with the camera. It is a medium format. The six by seven centimeter. Edges produces the most beautiful High Resolution ive taken us all the way to australia. Is a little bit lighter than that. Iy with the pro digital slr is getting up to this level. Its just beautiful. The moment that you had it how does the processing work. Did you just get an negative and then you manipulate the digital. I have a medium formatr scanner. Ro i used used to have one of those from when i was a kid. And i did a black and white. I even did call her. But the computer makes it so much easier. You feel kind of bad all of these skills that people develop. There is one print and it took him 25 years to finally get the print that he felt happy with. Nf all of that effort and the craftsmanship. You move to computers and digital. The end of history and the last man. He is still in the Virginia Area he is still writing. That was a visit that we took to his house he did that for many years. For book tv and traveled to the authors home. We will show you a couple more of those as we go today. Thank you for holding. You are on book tv. What are you reading and have you have a favorite indepth gas. As the autobiography of malcolm x. It was my First Library book and it inspired me to continue to read. Does the wonderful authors and you have across the board. A very diverse background of reading this is my 40th year. Ive been an assistant principal for 22 years. And it really moved me when you are talking to the lady of delaware and they graduated. That is how i ended up in tucson. One of the books that they were talking about. I am also reading the book called the color of love. Guest and, you know, ive read, i was reading a book at the time, democracy matters. Its one of my Favorite Books. And dr. Cornel west was trying to, you know, get me inspired to go to princeton and finish my doctorate which i never finished, and im reading a book, one of my favorites at the beginning again, by professor eddie claude. Hes a princeton guy. Add in to that, one of my favorite historians, one of my favorites. So ive got a kind of crossof things. One of the things i like about cornel west is how he talks about w some of the news today a form of entertainment, you know, that they present. You know, youou just have to red between the lines to know whats what. But all of the people that you had on today, i admire everyone that you hadon on that are deep can readers. And deep readers. And one thing about cspan, im so glad that you have this program, because it gives us the chance to broaden our horizon intellect callly. Intellectually. One of the weeks you had books you had on before, im reading finding latina in searches of the voices redefining latina identity by paula ramos. Im reading her book. So i justt kind of go back and forth. One of your favorite people that you had on also was dr. Dyson. I have several of his books, so i enjoy that kind of reading too. Host so, yeah, with cornel west, what you see is what you get with him. Caller oh, yes. Host hes always been consistent over the years. But ill tell you, tareq, we sure missed going down to tucson for that wonderful book festival put on at the university of arizona this year. Weve been [inaudible] in the past . Caller oh, yes. I go every year and pick up a couple of books. Host yeah. Weve covered it for the past ten years or so, and, of course, this year it didnt happen. We look forward to going back down. March is a nice time to be in tucson after a long winter too. Caller it is. Its a beautiful place. Host tareq, thanks for your time, appreciate it. Tareq mentioned a couple of hitstorians. Another historian who appeared, and he is still working today. This is from 2001, and this is best selling author and Pulitzer Prize winner David Mccullough. Cspan weve got some video of your home and your writing shed. Where is it . Guest well, its, first of all, brian, its not a shed. [laughter] its the world headquarters. Cspan what highways whats that. Ing guest thats a village in the center of Marthas Vineyard. The house, parking lot of its 18th part of its 18th century, part of its 19th century, part of its 20th center ily. Thats the back porch hooking over where we have looking over where we have homes and bordering on to a neighboring farm which has been the same family since the island was first settled. And this is my, in effect, my walk to work. Thats where i work right there. That measures 12 by 8 feet. I absolutely love it. It has about 800 books in there. And my faithful typewriter or upon which i have worked now since about 1965. Ive written every book ive ever written on that old royal typewriter, and theres nothing wrong with it. Its really an example of a beautifully made american machine. Its probably got 750,000 miles on it, and it runs perfectly. Cspan have you written every word of john adams on it . Yes. Lived in charlottesville for the better part of a year when i wasli doing research at the library at the university of virginia. But essentially, all of it was written here in that room. Cspan what kind of time do you write . Guest i write all day, every day. Im not writing all day, im reading what i wrote the day before. Theres no phone cspan music . Guest no music, no. This is a nice view, but i have my back to the view so i wont be tempted by it. Its far enough from the house, there youo. See general washingn and some of his soldiers marching along. I hope they show the end of it, because theres a guy at the end that i identify with. Hes the one whos always a little slow. Hes catching up. Hes not quite well, we arent going to see him. I look at him, and hes my, hes my, my example. There we there he is. Thats the one. [laughter] hes always a little behind. Host David Mccullough is published by Simon Schuster, and the ceo of Simon Schuster is on your screen now, david sharp. What has David Mccullough meant to s and s . Guest first of all, happy anniversary. Hes filled me with such admiration. If david is watching, daviding or we reveer you, we love you, and we will be reading you forever. Hes been with s and s for over 50 years, and hes, hes one of the great writers at work today. Every time ive had the privilege of reading one of his manuscripts, the thing that struck me the most is theres just not a wasted word. Hes such a careful writer, and also the way hes able to find the inspiration in American History is, its distinctive. I dont think theres anybody quite like david. Host mr. Karp, is he writing can you tell us, is he writing a new book now . Guest i sure hope so. You have to ask his editor, i sure hope so. Host okay. And have you been to his shed . Guest i have not been to his shed. And, in fact, he is hard to reach on the telephone because, as he said in that interview, he doesnt answer the phone. Host 20 years in depth has been on the air, Simon Schuster authors have appeared on the program, how has the world of publishing in the last 20 years changed . And you only have two minutes to answer that question. Guest well, first of all, a lot of those authors are still around and still writing best sellers and writing books that are having a lot of influence. Obviously, Bob Woodwards rage has had a tremendous impact, i think, on the way people oversee thing this president ial campaign. But i guess the short answer is i think theres, obviously, more books being sold online. Iy think that the pace of publishing, just like the news cycle, has accelerated. And i guess the third thing i would say is i think this may be the nonfiction culture at least in recent years has perhaps taken a little bit of attention away from fiction. So thats, those are the big points i would say. Host so when you planned Bob Woodwards most recent book, rage, and you talked about the timing, what went into that decision to release it in Early September . Guest well, we thought that that was when attention would be the most focused on the questions of how the Trump Administration has behaved and conducted itself. But a lot of it also fends upon bobs depends upon bobs reporting and his own timing and his own schedule. And although he hoped the book would be published in september, we werent really sure. Bob kept saying could be earlier, could be later. And the reporting was really what determined the schedule. Although weke had hoped it would be september, nothing was certain until bob was done. When bob was done, we moved. Host whats been the effect of the pandemic on the Publishing Industry, specifically simon if schuster . Simon schuster . Guest well, its been, its been unusual because for several months we actually didnt publish that manyy books. When the pandemic began in march, with we postponed several titles that were coming out in april, may, june. And then we started to publish more really going into july. And so and then, ultimately, book sales were up. In the industry, book sales have been up about 6 industry wide for the major publishers. And people were home and they had time to read, so its turned out to be through all the hardship and through all the suffering, for readers its been all right. Host now, Jonathan Karp, two well known in the Publishing Industry figures at Simon Schuster have passed recently, alice may hue and carolyn [inaudible] guest its been a really tragic year for people in the book Publishing Industry. Theyre not the only ones who died, and just, you know, just the other day, i mean, it seems as if there are a lot of major people who have passed away this year. Carolyn was our ceo and worked for Simon Schuster for decades, was a great leader. Alice was one of the, one of the greatest editors of our time ad really one of the leading editors of nonfiction and was bobbed woodwards editor and Walter Isakson and doris kerns goodwinsed editor. She was working right up until her final days. She called me a week before she died, she wanted to sign up two more w books. Her work was her life, and she loved her authors, and she made an immense contribution to publishing. As did carolyn. Host did alice may hue leave a man you crypt behind manuscript behind . Guest alice was a deeply private person. But we did actually publish a book about alice. We asked a bunch of authors to contribute memories of her, and we published that. And we actually i think its available free to the public, and its a wonderful, its a wonderful book of memories. And, actually, it was reviewed quite favorably by the Washington Post. Host mr. Karp, what books are coming out by Simon Schuster this Christmas Season that we should be alerted to . Guest well, since youul aski have one thats out right now. I dont know if you can see this, thehe luckiest man, by [inaudible] which is an account of his years working with john mccain. And i was in tears by the end of this book. Its the story that you wouldnt be able to get any other way. Mark was senator mccains chief of staff for many years, worked with him on his president ial campaign, chief speech writer, coof authored seven books coauthored seven books with him. And so youre seeing mccain from the most intimate perspectives that any politician the or political leader could be seeny from. And its a story, even if you dont agree with mccains politics, this was y an honorabe man and a man who cared deeply about the country. And i think that its a story that, regardless of your political ideology, you could appreciate. So thats one. I think that other books that we have for the holidays, jonathan alterers biography of jimmy carter, his very best, which is a terrific account of president carters life. Took jonathan about six years to write. Weve got a book by evan [inaudible] that just came out on joe biden. Evan won the National Book award for his first book on china. Hes the new yorker staff writer, and hes gotten to cover, hes been covering biden for many years. And we think this will be, we hope this will be the book that everybody turns to to understand joe biden. Host Jonathan Karp, president and ceo of Simon Schuster. By the way, a couple years ago booktv went into the Headquarters Building in new york city of Simon Schuster and did a tour. If youd like to watch that, you can type in Jonathan Karp up in the search function at the top ofn booktv. Org. Thanks for intending a few minutes spending a few minutes with us, mr. Karp. Guest thank you. Host in 2007 on booktvs in Depth Program, these authors appeared p. B. Orourke, dinesh dsouza, barbara ehrenreich, alexander coburn, lou latham, edward o. Wilson, Christopher Hitchens, david horowitz, vince buying yossi and Newt Gingrich beautiful owe city. Dan in massachusetts, good afternoon. Who are you reading, whos your favorite in depth guest . Whos an author youd like to recommend . Caller sure. Be glad to tellto you, peter. First, i want to compliment you on the wonderful job of booktv. Ive only been following the last couple of years, ive been promotinge it to other people. Im talking about really some fine, educated people, i tell them about how also your authors complement librarians. I have a couple buddies, one was a library at the boss to be public lie boston public library, another fellow from rutgers, and i explained to him the situation also. I dont want toul take too muchf your time, but i want to answer your question also. I have a number of your authors ive listened to with intensity, and ill lead off by telling you i enjoyed the replay you had of william f. Buckley. Im sure you remember that one. That was really a phenomenal interview, and his books, he wrote so many books, i think 41 you said. How can i you beat that . Also i enjoyed listening to dr. Levin, and he wrote the fractured republic. 9 and the great debate. I thought that was interesting. Most people think about lincoln and douglass, but also you cant forget thomas paine and edmund burke. And i also want to mention that dr. Ross, who was on just a few minutes ago, i really wanted to talk to him. I think hes a very wellwe welleducated man, and i really enjoyed his presentation of some of the thoughts that he wanted to convey to us. I also like tom wolfe and charlotte simmons. I thought that book was fascinating. Tom is an interesting guy, im sure youd agree with me. I think that you enjoyed having him as his guest. He went on these College Campuses to kind of observe the behavior of students and whats going on on College Campuses today which, unfortunately [inaudible] to alliance college, and it was back in the 70s and, boy, things have changed. It was the really interesting hearing the view of tom wolfe. I think hes very fascinating and a wonderful writer. Host and what do you do in pittsfield, massachusetts . Caller what do i do here . Okay, sure. Id be glad to answer that question. After college i ended up getting a degree in sociology, and i worked for the commonwealth of massachusetts for years, and i also got involved, my family has a small business. I also did some retail work with that. Ive lectured on a college campus, ive lectured to clergy, ive lectured at different, at of correction. Ive been involved in some community service, and thats why some of your information gives me great background when i talk to other people. And one question i want to ask you, peter, if you dont mind trying to answer this one. I hopet your listeners will probably get something out of this, id like to hear your did you findd the any central theme that comes through these various authors youve had . You know, variety. But i also would like to say that a a number of your authors seem to emphasize the point theres been a decline in our morality in this country, and i think thats part of the cross that goes back to your fractured republic as dr. Levin said. I think part of the problem is that our country would improve its morality if more people would follow the secular life, it would createless of a pluralism crypt less of a pluralism in our society [inaudible]y host and thats dan in pittsfield, massachusetts. Bob from detroit text in that in depth should go back to three hours. Thatss. Why its called in depth. Its now, this last year i think weve put itst down to two hour. So 202 is the area code, 7488200 in the east and central time zone, 8201 for those of you in the mountain and pacific. And if you want to text in a thought, include your first name and your city, 2027488903 is the number for you. Mikes in needham heights, massachusetts. Mike, youre on booktv. Please go ahead. Caller hi. Good afternoon. I would just like to mention the probably the greatest Nonfiction Book ever one but the author is long bonn, thely of long gone, the history of the pell to nice pell by nice war. The most important fiction book ive ever read was 1984. You can read that book, and you can just see whats going on today. It is just the most important book i ever read. Authors, i would you had paul johnson on who was very influential with me. And finally, thomas sowell. I dont know if youve ever had him on, but he is just fantastic, and hes written, like, 40 books or Something Like that. Host yeah. Paul johnson joined us from london. I remember that interview. And we appreciate your calling in. Well, it was in 2009 that a woman named Temple Grandin appeared. She is somebody with autism who designed livestock holders. And a very big best selling author, and heres just a portion of what Temple Grandin had to say. Y. At do you mean when you say you think in pictures . Guest well, all my thoughts come up as pictures. Its sort of like google for images. Instead of asking me an abstract thing, why dont you repretend imdo Google Images and give mea keyword. Dont give me something i can see in a tv studio, you know, a control room or Something Like that. Just give me a noun, and ill tell you how my mind searches the database. Host cspan. Myguest cspan, im seeing hotel room, ive got the tv on this morning, and i was watching cspan. But the tv wouldnt turn off, and i had some other work, so now im seeing the Remote Control, and im pushing all the buttons, and thats how i got the cspan tv Remote Control, and i had to call the desk to get the Remote Control to work. Now im into like hotel, hassle file. Host corral. Guest corral . Im starting to see many of te sorties that ive designed. They start coming up like slides. Corral tends to be ranch, so im seeing ranch facilities. Youd ask me feed lot facility, id start to see things i designed in the stable. If you said meat plant, id see things iay designed at the meat plant. Thats something thats my business. Im going to tend to see my own stuff. Why dont you ask me something that would not be my business. Host book. Guest youre not being very creative host i didnt know i was going to be put on the spot. Guest yeah, but the only way i can explain to you how i think, ive got to it kind of gets off the subject the same way that a search does on the internet. Even when you do a verbal search, wordbased search, maybe the first two pages hit on the subject then gradually gets off the subject. Host how many people in the think like that . Guest well, there are people that are visual thinkers that arent necessarily autistic. A lot of dyslexic people, a lot of really good Graphic Design art people. But when i draw a piece of equipment, i can actually test run it in my head. I thought every other designer could do that, but i found out they couldnt. I interviewed people about how they think, and i was shocked to find out that most other people didnt think the way i do. Like, for example, like they think about Church People. I justsh see specific ones. I can name where theyre located. I put them in the Church People file. Other people i get a vague, generalized image. I dont have those, i only have specific ones. Host and that was Temple Grandin back in 2009 on booktv. This is lisa in toms river, new jersey. I just finished reading parable of the [inaudible] by octavius butler. The book was recommended in a Facebook College awe lumbar knew group. Alumni book, i recommend it. Next call is benjamin in huntsville, alabama. Good afternoon. Whos on your reading list . Who is your favorite in depth author . Caller my favorite in depth author is [inaudible] i dont know whether youve heard of him or read host what has he written . Guest well, my Favorite Book of his is called the first and freedom. Hes written about by al discuss huxley, and huxleys statement about his writing is that the reader or will find a clear contemporary statement of the fundamental human problem problem, singular together with an invitation to solve it in the only way in which it can be solved. By and for himself. Heor looks at the fundamental problems as basically greed, fear and the search for security. Host and spell his last name for us, please, benjamin. Caller his last name is krish h. Namurti. Host thank you. Sir. Ed in ames, iowa. Please go ahead. Caller yes, i read a book not long ago as a result of watching cspan i dont think it was booktv, i think it was a q a with brian lamb, and it was called clandestine relationships a black mans odyssey in the ku klux klan. And it was a very illuminating book written in, i think, 1998. So im not so sure you may have interviewed him on booktv. But its a very interesting book that i had called ignorance, there are two kinds of men, those who are ignorant and those who are stupid. And he goes on to relate that that people who are ignorant tend to do stupid things. [laughter] but it was a very illuminating book, and i enjoyed it. It was amazing how a black man was able to become very Close Friends with members of the ku klux klan to the point where theyo not only trusted each other, but they became very, very Close Friends at which point at the end of the book he realizes that his best friend in the ku klux klan has a daughter, and he wants daryl davis to become his daughters godfather. Host thank you, ed, in ames, iowa. Andysnd in macon, georgia. Go ahead, please. Caller yes. Answer your questions on my favorite authors, itd probably be David Mccullough and goodman. The reason i like mccullough is he was one of the first to put you there. I mean, im in my 60s, so i remember a Walter Cronkite tv show called you are there. And i remember mccullough talking about what it was like to be a revolutionary war soldier and,m you know, tryingo gett home after the war or, you know, if you got wounded, exactly how what kind of care would youer get or how did you t on youryo shoes, or did you even have matching shoes. It was just, he was one of the first to introduce me to that line of thought. And ive used that so far to, you know, tailor my reading list. I pretty much, im reading rick attkissons theg liberation treaty, and i just finished victor davis hanson, the first one i ever saw that could make [laughter] that could make that interesting. And i read a war like no other, and i first heard on that on your, actually, a replay of like a 2000 booktv thing. So you guys really and i want to tell you, i wouldnt call myself a cspan groupie, i dont stay the up til 3 30 at night, but all my friends are probably tired of me that they ought to flip over to cspan every now and again. Ive downloaded all your mp3s, communicators, q a, after words host andy, im going to go out on a limb and say you are a groupie. [laughter] caller well, i mean, you a know, i will say this, you changed you made me feel better about this years election. Basically, from the contenders that you all just plaided or, you know, the played, or the prime ministers, first ladies president s and first ladies and landmark history, im an engineer working in the defense department, but basically there waswo always some big issue for every year, you know, every election. Al smith back in the 1920s, and, you know, dewey and, you know, every year theres always been some big deal. And if you were to only listen to the propaganda thats out there today on other channels, you wouldnt get that picture. And so im kind of thinking that even though this is a big election, you know, trump and biden, i, you know, whoever wins or loses, i believe as long as the machinery of our system stays in place, well be okay. And i have cspan to thank for that. Host well, andy, thank you for calling in and watching. Over the years from the publisher regularrerrer inly regnery, several authors have appeared including anticoulter, dinesh dsouza, david horowitz, michelle malkin, mark steyn. What do they have in common . I think its fair to say that they are all conservatives. And including this gentleman who was in our first year. Here it is. Cspan oldye and musty. This is the, what, 49 years old . Guest yeah. Came out in 195at1. He was rather amuseingly [inaudible] that i had calculated it to come out on the 250th anniversary of the founding of yale. In fact, that was coincidental. Cspan the picture on the back, do you remember those days . Guest no. [laughter] cspan whats in the book . Guest well, the book is an examination of life at yale for the undergraduate with special attention the given to the impulses in the courses to which he was exposed having to do with government. The enthusiasm for greater government or was it enthusiasm for lesser, less government. And also in respect of religion. What was encouraged in those courses in which religion touched. Faith or skepticism. And i concluded that yale in those days was collectivist in its impulses and ago agnostic. Shall i rattle on, or do you want to [laughter] i was going to say as recently as four years ago at a reunion someone who is now [inaudible] reminded me that i had volunteered to read aloud the section that bore on christianity to wright hall, a fraternity of christianminded young men. He said i regret to tell you that everything you said was proved correct. Which he meant that the gradual sort of disappearance of the strong Christian Faith was accurately predicted in, this was his knowledge of what went on and what subsequently happened. William f. Buckley was published by regnery, and thomas benz is the new publisher of regnery. How long have you been on the job . Guest i have been the publisher since january of this year. So i guess ive just completed ten months. Host and what were you doing prior to that . Guest i was an editor at regnery since 2012 until this year. So we have two levels of editors. We have senior editors, leaded tod haves who lead editors o take the raw manuscript, work on developing the book and do the big picture ed editing, and then we have copy editors who take it from there. So i was one of the senior editors at regnery. Host and i think during a visit here in washington, i picked up a copy of god and man at yale by william f. Buckley. Guest oh, good for you. Yeah host whats he meant to the company . Guest buckley . Host yes. Guest a lot. That was, well, that book really new hampshirely regnery had started the company in 1947, and as we just heard in that interview clip, that book with was published in 1951. God and man at yale and another important book in the conservative intellectual tradition that Henry Regnery published, the conservative mind but russell kirk, appeared at roughly the psalm time, early in the same time, early in company. Of the and those two books put regnery on the map and really established the tradition that we try to carry on to this day. Host so who are some of the authors that have been published this year . What kind of authors do you publish at regnery . Guest its quite a variety. We have, we usually have some big name conservative figures. You mentioned dinesh dsouza, ann coulter, those kind of people. Dinesh dsouza having been a classmate of mine at dartmouth college. We have politicians, so our current best selling book is called one vote away by senator ted cruz. Its about the Supreme Court. That came out right at the same time as another book on the Supreme Court from regnery called supreme disorder by ilya shapiro, the legal scholar at the cato institute. Ilya represents another type of author, a conservative intellectual. And we have lots of those. We have another book by another academic, canadian, called [inaudible] the book is called the parasitic mind. He is a youtube anded podcast celebrity. And we have books by, you know, quieter, quieter types, quieter writers. One that just came out a couple weeks ago called the price of panic thats about the pandemic, the response, the governments response to the pandemic byse three scholars, jy richards, douglas axe and william briggs. Sort of a dichotomies, a statistician and a biologist. So we cover the, we cover the spectrum. Host Thomas Spence, from your perspective at regnery, is it better to have a Republican Administration orr a Democratic Administration when it comes to book sales . [laughter] o guest well, thats a good question. The joke at regnery has always been whats bad for america is good for egg regularrerrer inly. Regnery. We say bad for america. The clinton years were very good for regnery. When a conservative is in the white house, its, you know, our people and our market are a little less worked up about things. So generally, being in the opposition has been good for regnery. The trump years, like everything about donald trump who, you know, breaks the mold, so weve done pretty well in the trump years just because, i suppose, he stirs the pot. Theres plenty for people to read about and talk about. But in general, in general, you know, the opposition years are good for our business. Host Thomas Spence is new ceo and publisher of regnery. Thanks for spending a few minutes with us today on in depth. Guest sure. Congratulations on 20 years. Thank you very much. Host thank you, sir. We have about 50 minutes left on the program, and thomas in california, you are on the air. Go ahead and tell us who your favorite author is, Favorite Program or what youre reading. Caller hi, thanks. Im a big fan of booktv. It might be my Favorite Program. Id like to answer favorite Nonfiction Author and Favorite Booktv guest. First on the Nonfiction Author, thanks to the caller a few minutes ago, i also am a friend of jay krishnamurti. And i wanted to mention another important author that i dont think has been on booktv yet, ken wilbur. Host what did he write about . Guest he writes about the spectrum of consciousness, conscious development, integrated paradigms, developmental paradigms. Finish and hes been called americas greatest living philosopher. Hes been talked about by the likes of bill clinton as far as importance. So ken wilbur. Host thank you, sir, for calling in. Well, it was in 2004 and a couple viewers have brought up tom wolfe that he was on the program. Heres a portion. Cspan might decide to do the white suit and the hats and all that for purposes of what happens when the publicity. Guest it happened by accident, but i realized pretty soon that i was on to a good thing. I had just come id had finally gotten a job in new york as a reporter. Id been on two previous papers. Finally got the job in june of 1962. Summer was coming on, i had in those days, a reporter had to wear a jacket and a tie. Today reporters look like theyre all waiting in a soup kitchen line. Then you had to have and id had only two jackets to my name. So i went into a store and i bought a white suit for the summer which in richmond, virginia, where i grew up was not an odd, was not an odd thing. But it was made of some heavy material, silk tweed, and i couldnt wear it in the summer. So i started wearing it in about this time of year. It was convincingly cut, but it was white, and this annoyed people the no end. Why i enjoyed that, i dont know. But it made getting dressed in the morning a lot more fun than it had been. And then when finally i wrote a book, i published a collection, the candycolored tangerine, magazine pieces id done, i discovered i was not used toing being interviewed. I was always interviewing someone else, and i was kind of speechlessso when people would k these questions, my opinions and stuff, and i didnt really say very very much are. But all the articles would say what an interesting man, he wears white suits. So it was took the place of a personality for many years. Cspan how many of them do you have . Guest i used to have a lot of them. Ive got about 22 now. I can get by with that. Cspan how long can you wear them without having them cleaned . Guest about six hours. When you go on a trip and make people think you have one, you have to have three. Andd i have three suits i brougt along to come here all made of the same material. You cant really tell the difference. But, you know, it really, or it simply has not hurt to have a trademark. [laughter] and mr. Wolfe passed away in 2018. In 2008 here was a guest on in depthth john mcquarter, michael eric dyson, alice walker, ralph peters, john wilson and Jonathan Karp talking about the election that year, Steven Pinker and Kevin Phillips are. Well, it was in i may that booktv went to alice walkers home in w the Berkeley Hills and did the program from there. Guest and about bob marley, i never met bob march lu while he was alive, and i feel though that ive met his spirit every year since i discovered him. He has meant a great deal to me. I think he has given us you know, artists give energy. Thats part of what we do. And its just, its free, you know . I mean, we its not like its even a commercial thing ever. It may become commercial at some point, but part of what we do is we just give this energy, and its, when youre from a part of the culture that is oppressed, its a big gift because it means that people can keep going. And so i feel that bob has kept millions of us going. And when you see him dancing when hes singing, you know, he does this hes a shaman, so hes doing a kind of dance when hes singing,ng but you see just the purity, the pure fewty of his giving the purity of his giving. And i think that millions of people around the world have connected with that, all people, you know . That is why he was so beloved, that he was completely free in giving the transmission of deep caring about each other and the planet. Host and that was alice walker at her house in the Berkeley Hills. Deborah in georgia, please go ahead and make your comment. Caller hi, peter. Thank you so much for taking my call. This is a really difficult question g on whos my favorite guest on in depth, ive had so many. Harold blue stands out, john mcquarter, you just mentioned him. Nicholas bass banes, any by lo file should love him. And then finally, lynne cheney. I will always remember because i got through to talk to her, and i will never forget it. I ordered the program, i got all her books, it was lovely. Host and, you know, she has a new one out caller i know. [laughter] im going to get it too. I just love her. It was so unique this time with her husband interviewing her. I thought that was really neat. But i love you all so much, and its just the greatest thing in the world, booktv. Host well, we appreciate your watching. Lets hear from eric in washington. Eric, whats the name of your town . Caller yeah, hi. Great program, its sila. My favorite authors, i think, would be Christopher Hitchens and victor davis hanson. Of course, Christopher Hitchens is not with us, and also the book [inaudible] anything victor davis hanson. The guy is pretty much a genius as far as that goes. His synopsis, analogies of world war ii. Anyway, really love your show, keep that up. I tell everybody, hey, you dont have to read all the books, you can watch your shows. Host the cliff notes, right . Caller thats right. Host heres a text along with whats the gentleman said. My favorite in depth author, Christopher Hitchens although, ironically, ive not read any of his books. My favorite writer currently other than orwell is christopher hedges, and the and hes finishing his book now, america the farewell tour. Next call is gordon in laramie, wyoming. Sorry about that, hi. Caller hey, pete, thanks for sure service with cspan for your service with cspan. Thanks for cspan. Jon meacham, james bradley, any of those been on in depth, do you know . Host once again, sebastian youngers been on, and who else dud you mention . If. Caller jon meacham and james webb. Host jon meacham, not yet. Somebody weve been trying for. But sebastian, yeah, we did him just a couple years ago from our new york studio. He owns the bar up there, so [laughter] we went up to new york and visited with him there. Caller whats the name of the bar . Host oh, golly, blah blah yeah. That was a couple years ago, but he just had a new book out. Caller yeah, his book war, wow, just excellent. What a great writer. Host yeah. Caller and james webbs fields of fire, the author tautive literature on vietnam, i believe. Host and i dont think he has been on, and i apologize that im not as familiar with that. Caller thats all right. You cant [laughter] youve got a lot on your plate there, pete. Host we just interviewed jon meacham during the National Book festival in september caller great sense of humor. Host for his book, yeah. Caller yeah. The gal said its you, its really you, and she went to grab a book and brought it back to him to sign, and it was a john grisham novel. [laughter] host by the way, weve also interviewed john griffin sham. So grisham, so a couple times here on booktv, which was always entertaining. Caller we like our local author c. J. Box, but i prefer nonfiction. Host well, hud secretary dr. Ben carson, prior to being hud secretary, he is the author of several books, and he appeared on this program in 2013. Guest i was an extraordinarily selfish young person. As a adolescent. And i was a person who thought i had a lot of rights. The more rights you think you have,es the more likely someones to infringe upon your rights. So people were always infringing on myon rights, and i would go after people with baseball bats, i would get in fights. And once i even tried to stab another youngster with a knife. The scene is well depicted in the movie, difficulted hands gifted hands, which cuba gooding jr. Plays few part. But, you know, after that incident, i locked myself in the bathroom, and i started contemplating my life, and i realized, you know, trying to kill somebody over nothing that i was seriously deranged. And, you know, i prayed and i picked up a bible in the bathroom, and it had all these verses in the it about fools. And i i said, wow, does that sod like me. But it also had a lot of verses about anger. Proverbs 19 19, theres no point getting an angry man out of trouble, hes just going to get back into it. Or proverbs 16 if 2. And verse after verse, chapter after chapter, they seemed like they were written for me. And while i remained in that bathroom for three hours, i came to an understanding that it was not a sign of strength to punch somebody or kick down a door, it was a sign of weakness. It meant that you could be controlled by other people and by the environment. I didnt want to be controlled. But i also came to understand that it was my selfishness, because somebody was in my space, somebody was taking my things, somebody was doing something to me. It was always about me and my and i. And i said if you can step outside the center of the circle and let itt be about somebody else, maybe that will change things. And i started trying that that day. And ive never had another angry outburst since that time. Host hud secretary ben carson, prior to being hud secretary. 2009, bill gertz, Frank Williams andms edna green med 230rd, ron pataki, robert hayes, Christopher Buckley, bill ayers, john furling, juan williams, hugh hue put, Temple Grandin and joy haycolm were our guests that year. Several callers have brought mr. Hitchens. And it was in 2007 that Christopher Hitchens was on in depth. Guest with someone like, say, billy graham, i think one can see all the symptoms of the selfconscious fraud. Someone who doesnt believe any of this at all but is a reasonablied good businessman. [inaudible] had something to say. There was a cause january billy graham, a contemporary of his, who [inaudible] was that crusade. Templeton who wrote a memoir about the fact [inaudible] was nonsense, and he said, look, heres what happened too me. Can you really go on [inaudible] too late to stop now. Lots of people expect it of me, and, you know, were in business. Thats what i think is the case with a surprisingly large amount peof it. But im not i dont want to sound vulgar about it, ive known a lot of people to whom religion means everything or a very great deal and who dont try to profit from it. So i dont reduce everything to a racket, but i think the racketeering is and always has been an important part of religion. Some religions simply are racket e. Scientology, for example, or mormonism. Its nothing more than the record off a successful con job. But the Spiritual Life cant be entirely reduced to that, and heres the problem do people really believe that . Because they dont know any more than you do whether there was a virgin birth or a resurrection. If they say i believe it, theyre believing in something that hay had to know very probablyi didnt take place. So what are they asking us to believe . Theyre asking us to believe the propensity to faith, in other words, to take something on faith without argument or evidence. Well, if somebody wants me toe believe that of them, then i will, but i feel that theyre arguing against themselves and probably doing themselves an injustice. Host do you think Billy Grahams an evil man . Guest yes, disgusting, evil man. Choosing one out of the number of possible [inaudible] ii think that to add to jewish prejudice is an unfailing [inaudible] there are some kinds of prejudice, for example, i dont terrifically like [inaudible] as it happens. I dont know why, i dont. But i dont think that convicts me of anything really insanitary. I probably would be a better person if i liked more [inaudible] antisemitism isnt like that. Its a horrible, conspiratorial, pseudointellectual, meanspurted, eventually ri spirited, eventually lethal piece of bigotry. You read the things that [inaudible] on tape you can get from the nixon library, and once you got over the revelation [inaudible] what a bigot president nixon was, i guess i knew that, you find that hes outmatched by the way billy graham talks. He does that in private and then goes out and rakes in the cash for preaching brotherhood and compassion. Its enough to make you sick. And mr. Hitchens passed away four years after that interview, in 2011. In 2010 our guests, michelle malkin, paul johnson, t. R. Reid, john dean,9 pat buchanan, martha us in bam, ralph nader, gordon wood, mitch cho kaku, Jonah Goldberg and Salman Rushdie were all on. I mentioned that paul johnson was one of our guests, the british historian. Heres a little bit from his appearance. Guest we are living in anwa rage where material advances in an age where material advances are really very comforting and very considerable, and we must be grateful for that. Now, of course, where your email corps respondent is nearler the truth is over the moral condition of the world. There hasnt been much improvement there. Weve expanded enormously in a material sense, but our morality appears to be no better than ever in the past. And im afraid that is true. And if we go back through history and look at the time of George Washington or go further back and look at the time of Queen Elizabeth and the armada or into the middle ages and the crusades or went back further still to the age of julius caesar, we have to admit that the public morals on the whole have not substantially improved. They are still there are still a large number of dreadful things thatt occur. And anyone who has lived through the middle decades of the 20th century as i did must take a certain pessimistic view about the ability of the world to improve its moral standards. Nevertheless, i am not without hope that this can be done. I still take the view that on the whole the world is a good place, and its getting to be a betterd place. But we must all do our, work our hard to improve the moral standards because that is what is required. Host leslie is in south pad ray island padre island, texas. Hi, leslie. Favorite author and what are you reading . Leslie, are you with us . Caller sure, pete. Did you ever have oliver sax on . Oliver saks on . Host i dont believe so. Guest he was made famous in the movie awe wakenings. As for what im reading right now, i read newspapers, magazines, whats left of magazines, but i so enjoy your program, and i just feel like books are so overlooked nowadays. E s rare to see someone reading a book, you know . I love to see that when people are waiting to vote are, some of them have a book in hand. But i feel like the countrys at a loss, especially the young people, you know, by not being exposed to the great literature and all the other things, you know . So anyway, thats my comment, but i just love booktv. Host what book is on your table right now . Caller well, let me see here. Actually, ive got a table full of stuff, but ive got something that i havent even im staying at a view caution condo here on south padre island, and sometimes there are books laying around. Theres a man named well, i guess he maybe was the author of the bourne identity, eric van lussbarter, and its called last snow. Host all right. So are you on vacation or for the pandemic . Caller well, thats a long story. Im from kansas city, but i came back and forth for years. Now mom and dad are gone, we still have the house, but its being worked on, so im lucky enough to stay on the beach for a while. [laughter] i still have my for here and, oh, or its a beautiful place. And its really the best beach in texas. Not as b crowded as anyone would imagine. Now, theyve left the beach open though. They have social distancing as far as you can have an umbrella up, but only two people 15 feet i apart. Anyway, i dont mean to go on and on, but, yeah, its kind of the last stop, my dad used to call it. If you look on a map, youre almost in mexico. The tip of texas, basically. [laughter] and weve got a gorgeous today today. So host well, go enjoy it. Caller yes. And thank you so much. You know,w, i learn so much, ani feel like im part of a community, you know,w, watching booktv because you just dont find people that read books much anymore. They read the internet, thats all. Anyway, thanks again. Host thank you, maam. And booktv has been pretty active on social media as well, our facebook page, our twitter page and our instagram page. Just remember booktv is the best handle for that. You can also go online at booktv. Org. Ca everything that weve been talking about today, all the in Depth Programs are listed there. Theres a tab at the top of the page that says in depth, and you can click on one of those tabs, and you can watch any of the programs that were talking about. Well, it was in 2018 that booktv made a over the years West Virginia had a few fiction weve had a few fiction authors on. But in 2018 we made a concerted effort to have only fiction authors. Certain types of fiction authors who wrote about issues, that type of thing. And here was the list that we had on. David ignatius, colson whitehead, jeff shower rah, walter mosley, david baldacci, brad thor, Cory Doctorow e, Geraldine Brooks, jodi by colt, those jodi pico, those were the 12 that we had on, and jodi p if icoult, here she is from her in Depth Program in 2018. Guest i do love the concept of a novel as a way to educate about social justice because i think that, for example, when i wrote this book, i sat down and i read countless studies about reproductive rights and about abortion statistics and things like that. Most people dont sit down to do it, you know, on a daily basis. But theyt might pick up a nove. And you think youre picking up a book to be entertained. You think youring picking up a book that is going to whisk you away for a few hours. But if ive done my job right, at the end of the book you wind up thinking very hard about a topic you might otherwise not c have approached. And in that way, i think fiction is so wonderfully sneaky because it really gets peoples minds to crack wide open. Host ca lie by in pennsylvania. Huh. Caller hi, how are you . Host how are you . Caller good. My favorite Nonfiction Author was Christopher Hitchens by far and away, and i also love michio kaku and michelle malkin. This is going to do damage. 22 years later is trump voters have every right and should pursue every legal means possible but if the decision is made you accept the results. Host i want to go to this a wellington pa . Im on disability now for injury but i was in radio. Host thanks for calling in, we appreciate it. We appreciate it. Eleanor in south carolina, good afternoon. Im doing great. Host you have called. What would you like to say . Caller before you went into the fiction, robert caro was on cspan, certainly my favorite interviewee. Brian lamb has talked to him. He is a wonderful interviewee because he knows the subject so intimately. We are on tenterhooks waiting for the end final installment of the lbj biography. A year ago conan obrien, a big fan of robert caro, got him there to interview and we covered that on booktv. That was an interesting hour. Caller a lot of us were not as high celebrity levels. Host we are waiting for him to finish. Caller any hints when it might come out . Host we have no hints. Maybe we should interview him. Caller it will be worth the wait. We talk host we talk with science and tech writers. In 2006, futurist and inventor ray kurzweil. Rayburn House Office Building guest we will send blood cells in our bodies to do 2 things. To keep it healthier. To remove debris, dna errors, sounds very futuristic. Type i diabetes lets insulin out of control, destroys cancer cells on the surface, this is today. We take this billionfold manufacturer, the capabilities of Information Technology and apply that to what we can do, we have blood cell sized device is capable of keeping us healthy and interacting with biological norms and expanding human intelligence. Nano refers to billions of a meter, nanometer is 5 carbon atoms. Doesnt mean the nano bar is one nanometer but it was on modest number. The whole device is actually microns, the size of a blood cell and blood cell is a nano robot that is quite sophisticated. It is intelligent, detects friend from foe. There is one a couple deficiencies. I watched my own white blood cells, biology is quite sluggish. Took a while to destroy bacteria on a slide. These nano robots do that in seconds and Download Software from the internet, that sounds futuristic inside the body that parkinsons patients. 100 treaty volumes for decades. These devices will be 100,000 times smaller. Host 202 is the area code, 7488200, east and central time zone 748821 2027488903 if you would like to send in a text. Include your first name and your city. Alice in townsend, maryland. Go ahead. Caller it is wonderful to talk to you. I have been watching in the last little while talking about the last interview with Christopher Hitchens when he was getting chemotherapy, it just aired a few weeks ago but hitchens, Christopher Buckley, p. J. Orourke, heather mcdonald, i was reading intellectuals by paul johnson and they turned on the show, i do wonder why you stopped going to visit arthurs in their workspaces, i thought it was too expensive or something but i enjoyed the feature when you were doing it. Dirksen senate Office Building 0 you chastised the decisions that we cut back a little bit on those. It was timeconsuming. Probably something to reconsider. Hire, j. Excellent program, i am a booktv fan. I have a book here, blackout, by paul porter. On booktv, one of the cspan programs. In Georgia Hotel etc. Host we covered that on booktv. Caller i have so many books i havent read but your program is so rich but one comment. I will order her books because fascinating. Just rich in her dialogue and perspectives. Host thanks for watching. Conservative political activists, pauline maier, ishmael reed, linda hogan, and coulter, michael moore, david brooks were all on. It was in august that and coulter joined us. Journalists allowed to interview and coulter for a second time. Why do you have this . You have on that list, Time Magazine, Jonathan Friedland of the guardian, taylor hill of jamhill. Com, Charlotte Allen and fishbowl, dc. Why are they allowed to interview . Only sorry, i chose them specifically because they ran a tape recorder when i talked and played the tape recorder back before typing that. That is shockingly rare. We need to reduce the Capital Gains rate and it comes out i support hitler and all his works. It is insane the misquotes and often the malice in my statement. It is completely vacuumed out. It was the ones by the way they were all liberals who do not agree with my politics and they quoted me accurately. I dont care what they say, just quote me accurately. After that it started to become a special request thing, but i want to beyond that list which is a good incentive. Host it was 9 years ago. Next call from california, roseann, who is your favorite author . Go ahead. Caller i am a first time caller in my 80s. One thing i want to say. When theres an author, the ones that i like and support, i pay full price, by the books at the library so i can support the library. Go ahead. Host who are the authors you like . Caller up and down and whatever it is. My husband has one political bent and im the other, 57 years, he pays the regular price and i pay the regular price and extra copies. Appreciate you calling in. Speaking of politics in different events, i love you but hate your politics. Sarah, good afternoon. Caller thank you for my education and happy twentieth anniversary. I was going through a divorce and by out of my husband on Marthas Vineyard and got an attorney from cape cod and dont understand what is going on with the money market and he recommended i read the colossal failure of common sense by Lawrence Mcdonald with patrick robinson, the inside story of the collapse of Lehman Brothers and it was fascinating to me. Host we covered one book on the collapse. Caller i have been a Real Estate Broker for so long, i wish there was more than, i did just come across a great book and found out about it by your Television Show on cspan and cant pay wont pay, the coalition where the change will be the sum of the parts to leverage bad loans and the changing of how mortgaging, lending, school loans, helping the tenant, taking advantage of the call lapse and how when you buy property it goes host a pretty recent book. Caller that is where i stayed up pretty much all night, red for 6 hours. It was in 2006 awardwinning historian from Duke University John Hope Franklin was our guest. He was in his 90s at the time he was here, this is when we had gone down to visit him at his home in durham ahead of the program. Professor John Hope Franklins backyard, he has a greenhouse back here. Could you tell us what you do back here . It has been going on almost 50 years. Teaching one summer in 1959 at the university of hawaii and i came back living in brooklyn, teaching their. I came back, i didnt know what to do, these are just open, just beginning to open up, and is it a difficult task and Specialized Task to keep these healthy. Caller to keep the greenhouse fairly green back then, things that will be determined, successful growth. This is the vanilla plan, outofcontrol. Host doctor franklin died 3 years after that. Chris hedges was on the program along with mark stein, randall kennedy, Richard Brookeheiser, julianne malveaux, Kenneth Davis and former senator, tom coburn, 2013, the year following, our january guests bring a couple bestselling political books and exposes, Randall Robinson was on the program, amy goodman, melanie phillips, Rick Atkinson who several viewers have referenced who is working on a trilogy on the early days of the us. Mary roach, ben carson, ben schapiro, john lewis, kitty kelly and christina summers for two more years. Cant talked about his father, Christopher Buckley was on the program, an author on his own right, mostly satirical fiction, heres a little bit. I got the idea, making supper, i still think of it as the neil lehrer news hour. Still makes me chuckle. They had someone on who is there to present the latest evidence, bad for you. Had two phds on the bottom of the screen. And and they are here and every time the scientists, from the National Institutes of smoking. 7 words that are incomprehensible like receptor and inhibitor. And make it sound as though it is the most preposterous and say goodbye to the kids. And so death for a living. I was oblique about what i was up to. So i got to hang out with her. There is something i am dying to ask. I feel a little awkward. She was smoking. Just like lauren but call. That is exactly it. I am paying the mortgage. And Christopher Buckley in 2009. A favorite interview was with Geraldine Brooks during a year of fiction. I loved people of the book and the year of wonder. Robert caro has been referenced a couple times, writing the multivolume set on looking forward to the johnson years. We are looking for one of those volumes. For as long as it takes to find out what differences it made in the life of black people in the south the Lyndon Johnson got the voting rights. When will he do that . A book tour now, in france, going to start it. Going to vietnam. Yes. That is the two things i want to do. I tried to write about political power. You dont write about it fully enough, not only about the man who uses it. It is used for good or for ill, for good Lyndon Johnson, the great Civil Rights Act of the presidency, transformed political power, what does that mean, how do you feel about the sheriff now that you can what difference, do you have more hope than you thought you did that your childrens life would be better than yours because of Lyndon Johnson. The other side of Lyndon Johnsons presidency is vietnam, to try to show what it means when a modern industrialized nation makes war on a rural peasant nation. I want to see how that works, one of these vietnamese villages that were bombed by be 62s. The horrible thing is the b52 flu so high not only were they invisible from the ground but you couldnt hear, never even knew they were being bombed. Mark levin, joseph west, lewis rodriguez, amity slaves, ron paul, mary frances berry, Michael Corda and arthur brooks, Neil Degrasse tyson was with us in 2017. I was asked by the New York Times, there was some impasse. And ask people who were not politicians, what solutions do they have to fix things. If you were president what would you do . What solutions do you have . I wrote back if i were president i wouldnt be president. It is on my website, if i were president , google that and my name tyson. It might take you to the New York Times part but i duplicated it in my website because they cut out a paragraph because there was not enough space. The full response to that question is there. It goes to the expectations when you run for office you change everything. Im not convinced of that. Im a little contrary and, the literal opposite of what a lobbyist is. To influence the politician in ways that serve the interest of the lobbyists and who they represent. For me, any elected official represents those who put them into office. What matters is not so much to the official is, what matters is the state of enlightenment of who is doing the vote. If people all recognize and value, how and why it works. They would never dream of voting for someone who doesnt know that. That person would not represent your fool interests. I would rather educate an electorate, put people in office who can make scientifically informed decisions about everything they do, rather than install myself into office and lead people who dont yet have this knowledge. 88 of congress you can convince one congressman but have to start all over again. I go to the bahamas, elect people who take this country into the future. Host we ran out of time. We had a video to show you. Studs turco and jimmy carter and we are unable to get to that video. All of those programs are available on our website, booktv. Org, watch in their entirety. Thanks for being with us the past 20 years. Heres a look at the Publishing Industry news. Miles taylor, former chief of staff at the permit of Homeland Security has divulged he was the anonymous author of warning, a 2019 book that was critical of donald trump. Mister taylor served for two years under former Homeland Security secretary Kirsten Nielsen and left the department in june of 2019. Poet Diane Diprima has died at the age of 86, she was the author ofs 50 books of poetry and was part of the Beat Movement in San Francisco in the 1950s. Daniel medicare died at 79, he was a longtime fiction editor at the new yorker before becoming executive editor in chief of random house where he worked with Salman Rushdie, alice munro and daniel silva to name a few. He also authored several books including a novel and a memoir. Also in the news, in pd bookscan reports print book sales continued their strong year up 13 for the week ending october 20 fourth. Adult fiction sales up 6 for the week. November is National Novel writing month, a Nonprofit Organization that has been promoting the writing exercise for 21 years, the goal is to write up to 50,000 words by the end of the month in hopes of producing a novel. Booktv will continue to bring new programs and publishing news, and the past programs any time, booktv. Org. Tonight on booktv in prime time, a critique of liberalism in the west. Nancy grace weighs in on how citizens can protect ourselves and avoid becoming a victim of crime. Pulitzer prize winning author Isabel Wilkerson talks about the hidden caste system in the united states. The Washington Post Pulitzer Prize winning author offers thoughts on the volume of books written about donald trump. Judge jeffrey staten, former law clerk to Antonin Scalia discusses the late Supreme Court justices writings. That starts tonight at 7 00 pm eastern. Find more information on your Program Guide or booktv. Org. Welcome back to our centennial speaker series. Thank you for joining us for todays event featuring shennette garrettscott. If this is your first time joining us, i have the honor of serving as dean

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