With. The presiding officer without objection. Mr. Schumer thank you, mr. President. Mr. President. Thank you mr. Speaker is in. Yesterday afternoon the Nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office came out with a score of the bipartisan Alexander Murray bill. Cbs report confirmed the Murray Alexander bill is a great deal for the american people. Does precisely what it was intended too do, stabilize the marketplace help prevent premiums from skyrocketing reduce the deficit. The cbos estimate by nearly 4 billion. Senators Alexander Murray noted report shows their bill will benefit taxpayers and low income americansco not Insurance Companies unquote. Even the wall street journal editorial ward no liberal kobold thats for sure said today quote bipartisan compromise proposed by senators alexander and murray now officially falls into the category so obvious it should pass. Thats not Chuck Schumers office. Thats not even Mitch Mcconnell talking for those on the hard right in my doubt Mitch Mcconnell. It is the beacon of the hard right. The wall street journal and they say again Alexander Murray falls into the category of quote so obvious it should pass immediately. So my fellow republicans would be waiting for . Everyone on your side wants the bill. Jump on it, support it. Lets get this done and lets marketsbilize their whatever our views arent health care. Above all these reports should be all the evidence that President Trump needs to come off the sidelines and enforce thee bill. It doesnt bail out the Insurance Companies. That is what he said he is worried about. It doesnt cost the government money and in fact it reduces the deficit by 4 billion. So there is no good reason for President Trump to continue to obscure his position. Leader mcconnell has said we will put on the floor if the president says he will sign it. By delaying the president is harming health care causing significant uncertainty and doing nothing but hurting americans who are trying to afford health care. So mr. President if and i mean President Trump, President Trump, not you my dearde friend the president , the senator from alabama, so President Trump if you dont pursue this bill consequences will fall on your back, make no mistake about it. On taxes later today the house will likelyel vote on whether or not to pass the budget resolution that will easily pass the senate. My colleagues in the house should be aware that thisge budt will explode the deficit by one . 5 trillion. Thats under the best of circumstances. Thats underey circumstances whe they find 4 billion in payfors payfors, probably unlikely. It will medicare and medicaid by one point 5 billion it will set up the same partisan process that caused the republican effort on repeal and replace. When you try to do it with one party its fraught with peril. He do it in a bipartisanin way u people on either sider can try o do the bill but they wont succeed if they dont have the votes. I remind my friends in the house who purport to be deficit hawks you are voting for a budget that will increase the deficit by 1. 5 trillion. Many of these house members particularly in the conservative wing of the caucus particularly those in the Freedom Caucus have spent their entire careers railing against the evils of the deficit. What a stunning hypocrisy it would need to abandon those principles today and vote for this budget simply because it gives tax cuts to the wealthiest of americans in the most powerful of our corporations. I would also remind my republican friends in the house particularly those in new york and new jersey, california and pennsylvania virginia illinois washington minnesota that voting for the budget today is tantamount to voting for the elimination of the state and local Tax Deduction and that would socket to the middleclass taxpayers in their states and districts. Most of all republican friends from blue states there are red districts, suburban, welloff. To get clobbered if you take away the state and local production. Those are the constituents hurt the most. Not the rich and not the poor. The u middleclass and uppermiddleclass. Not only will it raise their taxes dramatically, most people would lose deductions between 10 and 20,000. That is chicken feed. But it would raise home prices. Sorry it would lower home prices prices. A recent study by the National Association of realtors done by price water cooper the esteemed Accounting Firm showed that eliminating state and local would erode property values, the rock of the middleclass, by 10 . The middleclass folks new york i believe the country your home is the piece of the rock reduced drug will each month to pay the mortgage and pay the taxes and paid the upkeep that you are hoping by the time you reach later middle age and you on that home that it sure kids a place or it gives your kids a nest egg when you pass on. But this bill by eliminating state and local reduces across america that on average home values by 10 . So its a double whammy to the middleclass. Raising your taxes and lowering your home values. Why do that . You dont have to take it from me. I will tell my republican colleagues peter king, a republican who has a lot of courage. This morning i saw him on tv talking about investigating Hillary Clinton and heres what he said about repealing the state and local deduction. He said quote it willst devastae my district forever. Thats a solid middleclass and uppermiddleclass republican island. Heres what else peter king said said. How anybody from new york or new jersey can vote for this budget without knowing what is in the tax bill is beyond me. He was referring to state and local. Now i salute peter king for telling it like it is, having the courage to stand up and say to his own Party Leadership i will not forsake my constituents for a tax bill right dont even know what the details will be. The remaining members of the new York New Jersey california and other delegations have a decision to make. Will they protect the and tens of thousands of o homeowners in thr districts or go along with the hard right agenda that will cost their constituents hardearned money for groceries and home repairs and other needs. And also they very wealthy will get tax breaks and our their biggest corporations which are flush with money can have even more e money. Wrong. On the other side we are talking about tax bill for the middleclass to eliminates data and local deductions hurts the majority of middleclass people in this country. That is what will happen if you keep that in there. Some will say in the house and one of my colleagues from new york a republican said that democrat is beating up on republicans. The last time we had tax reform it was democrats who are pushing the bill. The legend of missed chamber one of the Democratic Leaders in the house, despite i told that not only would i not vote for any reform bill that has state and local deductibility and it that would lead the charge in roundup others and i did it i got a lot of flak from my fellow democrats but it was the right thing to do for my middleclass constituency in southern brooklyn. So when i ask our republican colleagues to buck their leadership to help their middleclass constituents it something i did with Democratic Leadership to last time tax reform is on the floor. Now some are already rationalizing their vote to approve the budget by putting their hopes in the vague possibility of some kind of compromise on the state and local detectability a. The large fact of the matter is there is no compromise on state and local but if you want to make taxpayers choose between a mortgage section and state andio local its like asking taxpayers to decide whether they want to cut off their right arm or their left arm. Some are talking about a tax. More than 50 of the total value of deduction go to taxpayers with incomes below 200,000 per defeat at per defeat at too low and almost all those middleclass taxpayers get hit pretty good tactic to too high it doesnt raise enough money to offset the cuts my republican friends wantn to give the corporations of the top 1 . Republicans in the house shouldnt state their votes on the prospect on a compromise. Theres not one to be had. The bottom line any republican plan that limits the equivalent to robbing middleclass families of tax benefits and handing it over to the wealthiest americans and biggest corporations. There is no compelling reason to do it. People arent clamoring for it. We dont need to take a trillion dollars from working families and give it to the millionaire m ceos. And if that werent enough reason to vote no mr. President the Republican Leadership is still debating free tax contributions to 401 k plans. For retirees and potential retirees in their craven thirst to give the wealthiest people in america a tax break and they are going to say you cant save money for retirement. What they got punch to the middleclass that would be. Despite the presence claims to the contrary representative rainy and senator portman have said a 401 k tax is still on the table. You notice this bill has become again in its desperation to help the wealthiest a quiz show. Which way do we hurt the middle class . Door one state and local deductibility door to retirement. Who knows what they will picket door three. Could be the mortgage ded deduc. As the middleclass people to choose which choice to take so you can help the wealthiest makes no sense. So i would urge my colleagues in the house and here in the senate stopped doing this partisan bill that was dictated by the hard right and very wealthy individuals and rich corporations. Work with us. We want to create a bipartisan bill that helps the middleclass middleclass. We are for tax reform and we can get something donee. Stop this. In its tracks early on before its too late and you will regret it. There are large numbers of democrats including this minority leader who want to sit down with republicans and come up with a deficitneutral middleclass Small Business oriented bipartisan tax relief bill, not a plan to benefit the richest 1 are the largest and more stuff powerful corporations who are the are flush with cash. Senate will proceed to executive session and resume consideration of the palk nomination which the clerk will report. The clerk nomination, the judiciary, scott l. Palk of oklahoma to be United States district judge for the Western District of oklahoma. A senator mr. President . The presiding officer the the presiding officer the mr. President. The senator from West Virginia. I rise today to highlight the importance of a tax reform. I listened to the democrat leader speech. For that. Guest thousand time. 1000 times only wealthy americans will benefit from anything the republicans can come up with it. Americans are smarter than that. Americans are smarter than that. I represent West Virginia who has struggling economic situations. If i were to go out on the street West Virginia and as i talked to individuals and asked would you like more of your hardearned money at the end of the day . And have a tax cut in tax relief, i can guarantee 100 say yes. I can spend my money better at home with my priorities to what youre doing in washington, d. C. Lets not let that argument rule the day. As i said, were smarter than that. Lets talk about what the bill does this is something i really believe in which is tax reform for everybody in this country. I want to describe the benefits will have on Economic Growth. Something not mentioned by the previous speaker. How we been stagnated for so long that Economic Growth will rise in almost every middleclass work will benefit and every Small Business. My second speech was about Small Businesses. 95 of my state are Small Business. Last week i highlighted the importance of the budget resolution to allow congress to move forward and we did that. Today want to talk about tax reform for middleclass families and the impact the bill will have on them. The reason a family is expensive today. A recent study from the department of back found that middleincome households will spend over 200 30,000 dollars raising a child. Thats staggering. The Federal Reserve found on the staff of American Families are starkly know to come up with 400 if there to have an emergency expense. In West Virginia hardly the wealthy families are forced to make hard tradeoffs is a balance or checkbooks. Expenses are going up, most americans havent received a raise in years. We need to help working families especially those living paycheck to paycheck. This is a primary goal of the tax reform. What middle earned income hardworking folks to get more their pockets and decide what to do with their money. I raised three children, i know putting shoes on your children is an expensive proposition. If you want to plan for a trip, safer child and to pay for childcare and safer colleges nearly impossible for people today. First this calls for a significant increase for the Child Tax Credit. Yesterday, number my colleagues from the house and senate came to highlight an improved Child Tax Credit would mean for workingclass families. It would allow families to take a higher per tax per child credit, saving money on their taxes. Money they have earned, money families deserve to spend on their own the money that can have Significant Impact to her families. The creative 500 cash credit for families caring for a non child dependent. Many americans are in the Sandwich Generation carrying for the children and parents at the same time. This will help those families. The proposal nearly doubles the standard deduction for the 20 tax bracket from 24004 mary erases it to 24000 for married, what kind of impact with that have a state like mine . It is 3 of the taxpayers in West Virginia take the standard deduction. They will get a doubling, thats more money to take home, to put the value of what they want to spend it with their own families. Four out of five West Virginia families will benefit. Thats an enormous savings and more taxpayers will benefit as a larger standard deduction means fewer people itemize. That will go up. Mix filing taxes simpler so our taxpayers can file on a single form without all the extra time and money it takes. Families will benefit from the Economic Growth tax reform will bring to the country. This is probably the biggest impact that tax reform will have for working families. Lower the corporate rate, yes or companies but we have to make them competitive across the globe. Were not competing. What kind of effect does that have . Fewer jobs and lower wages. Company and snow if they invest in their workforce will have a more productive workforce to produce products, sell products to enhance the quality of life for their communities. Many of these large corporations do a lot of work in the Community Service part of our country, whether helping schools are the baseball teams are sponsoring a robotics team. So why does that matter . Within 2 trillion in profits this caps off sure because of the flaws in the current tax system. Some of those estimates might be low. Shift into more fair system will bring the dollars back. People want to invest because they know three of the safest investment most technologically advanced in the best workforce. White House Council on economic advisors estimates flooring that Corporate Tax rate from 35 20 and increase the pace of the average american by 4000. When asked what you do with tax release she said raise the wages of my seven employees. I think this would be good news for working families and certainly good news for 50 of West Virginia workers. We need to Work Together and target are tax relief. We had lunch yesterday and he said priority one this tax cut must be targeted to the working families in this country. And thats what this bill puts forward. Larger tax credit, unlocking wages and despite her hard work, too many families are falling behind and we want to make sure that trend stops. Both parties will have opportunities to weigh in and i look forward to looking into the eyes of the working men and women in my state and say not only is help on the way, but help is here. I yield back. Over the next few weeks everybodys going to be engaged in what i think is one of the most important and impactful debates. To place that is been criticized for not doing anything we have a chance to do something that will matter and help real people. Its called tax reform. The great thing is that it goes to the heart and soul of our identity as a nation and we want to be and who we been up to this point. Were a nation that embraces Free Enterprise. There people who dont believe in Free Enterprise but by and large they do believe in it which means the government doesnt try to control too much of the economy. You have rules to make sure people dont cheat and steal but by and large we believe in a private economy. The answer is not just appear economic one, one of the unique things about this country weve taken for granted and did not teaching americans set america was not to bring together common nation, most of the nations ever existed have been a homeland for the people who were born and lived in that place not us. We are founded on the idea that you can bring different people from different backgrounds and unite them as one people despite their differences in my sent a very powerful idea, the idea that we are created equal. Thats not just a revolutionary idea, its been the identity of our country. Its fun what makes us unique and special that we need to continue to fight for that. One of the cool principles is the ability to fulfill your economic potential grow up and be who you want to be an Opera Company or work for an industry or career or stay home and raise children. We are nation that believes we all have a godgiven right to pursue that. Is something Free Enterprise makes possible. The difference between Free Enterprise and those who want government to control everything imaginable i just imagine one in your mind. Suffice it to this pie will never grow, it will always be the same size and everyone of us gets a slice. If i cant grow and everyone gets a slice than the bigger of your slice the smaller my slice. Thats what people argue. The pie really cant grow in unity government to make sure that pious place equally in the tax code is one of the ways they do it. Another argument is what i believe in what i think has made it most prosperous segment that pie doesnt have to stay that size. We can make sure keeps growing and therefore doesnt matter how big the other person slices as long as yours is big too. Thats unique attribute that everyone could be better off without anyone being worse off. Thats the theory, doesnt always work in practice. Im not anti regulation im anti overregulation. I fly on airplanes, im sure were all glad that airplane is inspected the person flying it is a pilot. I think we all want to make sure when you open a bottle of medicine whats in that bottle is in that medicine. What a food we want to make sure its not poisonous or will spread disease. This is true with economics. Its why we have antitrust laws of our take on anti competitiveness. Im not talking about corporatism. Theres a lot of countries around the world that claim to be Free Enterprise. And everybody else either works for them or is unemployed thats not what im talking about. Talk about a nation and a system in which someone can quit their job compete with their former employer and put them out of business because theyre better. The tax code is a big part of it. What is challenge Free Enterprise . First is a lot of global competition. We forget germany, japan, these country was were wiped out completely. Took them decades to rebuild. America was the only show in town for much of the 50s and 60s. The countries watch escrow they started doing what we did. The result has been over the past 20 or 25 years most countries in the big economies charge Companies Less in taxes than we do. What it does overtime and makes us less competitive. Not a day goes by that you dont read about Different Companies because they pay less in taxes over there. You dont realize that youre missing a part. Were not the only show in town. We have to compete. If it becomes uncompetitive youre forcing or inviting companies to leave the United States for more favorable tax treatment. Unit was paid the price . Not the rich people. Even if you make the money here the best lawyers and best accounts to create every loophole. The income of the truly wealthy, the billionaires and owners of the extraordinary amounts of wealth but figured out. People who get hurt are those that get paid every few weeks. Those companies leave they take the jobs with them. The less of those there are and the more people competing plus people get paid for the time if they cost more. Another thing hurting us we cant assume the economy grows everybody will be better off automatically. Theres some curzon industries and jobs that pay substantially more. Gonna talk about have sent have snobs, there the people have advanced education in the right skills of the people who do not. We need to close that gap. The topic that needs to be dealt with he have no growth to distribute if you dont have growth. Thats why its so important. When you hear the talk about wealthy corporations not necessarily true. This stuff is important for people to Pay Attention to the details so lets think for example its a publicly traded company in the chair because with our taxes to make a Million Dollars more than this year, what can they do with that money . Theres only four things and that all help working americans. They can grow the business, they can say we like our business a lot we have a Million Dollars more than we thought that we believe so much in our future were going to take that hire more people, going to invest more equipment which means the people who make the equipment have more work. Thats the first thing you could do. The second thing, maybe dont grow your business but that land dollars extra you pay your employees more because if not the quick go work for someone else. Now you can hire and retain good people by paying more and offer Better Benefits to keep them. The third thing you could do is lower prices. You can say im in competition with these businesses to sell the same thing. Work any use our money to lower our prices enough. That other company will have to bore prices to compete. You know who benefits . The middle class. People will be painless, before thing of the one that gets the most criticism is open to the shareholders in dividends. Who are the shareholders . The shareholders are wealthy people the trader wall street and spend all day on the computer and have brokerage accounts, thats part of it. You know who else . Millions of americans. If your Firefighter Police officer with the pension your shareholder. Senior pension in the future of your pension will depend on how those investments go. If you are a four oh 1k holder, it doesnt mean that youre not a shareholder, you are. Virtual every sort of investment mechanism for retirement in america is invested in the market in stocks and bonds and if those things are doing better its helping you retire. Thats why the business side is so important. It will help people to theres nowhere else for the money to go. The other type of business as a pastor. Thats where most businesses are organized. You put pay on your personal rate. If three employees your nest corporation. At the end of the year you pay at a personal rate. Its higher except you cant hire all the expertise. Youre actually paying more than the big companies. They need to be help too. And they would be on a tax reform that makes them more competitive. Beyond ensuring people will have better retirement funds, more pay her more jobs, and it would help and Small Businesses the vast majority which are owned by millionaires and billionaires, the expansion of the Child Tax Credit. I do weve been pushing for. It wasnt always popular but ill explain why. If you dont do that then went on to that then someone could argue this is not a middleclass tax cut. But if we do it, the single largest middleclass tax cut. The Child Tax Credit is what you get for child. Why do we have it . Two reasons. Number one we believe the family is the most Important Institution in society apparently is the most important job you will have. I care what you do, the most important job the most influence youll ever have his recent family. Sorry tax code accounts for that, and it should. Raising children is expensive. Fear raising children know you know how expensive it is. Sounds right to me, the numbers, they estimate to raise a child from the time theyre born to 18 is 200 30,000 dollars per child. Thats a Staggering Amount of money and doesnt even count college. Just go out this weekend i talked working parents and asked them not tell you one of the most expensive things they face is childcare. In over two thirds of the states of this country cost more for child care that does to go to college. Make 800 a week but you have to spend 400 on childcare, thats half your paycheck. Im not saying the Child Tax Credit fixes that but the tax credit has lost about 300 of value. The other thing is if you look at changes on the proposal deductions another 500 off. It her dollars per child were breaking even better thats why we have to have a Child Tax Credit thats at least 2000 to have an impact. We need to make it refundable. The strip likens payroll tax that come immediately if your paycheck. Not everybody pays income tax because if you dont make a certain amount morning but you are calling pain the payroll tax. If we dont make it apply to that, youre not cutting taxes or helping the vast majority people who need it. Theres been speculation that this would be too expensive, not true. Number two, its your money. You dont get it unless you know it and you dont ought lesser working. By the way, theyre gonna have to spend the money because we know families this country are living beyond what they make. Its why credit cards and debt has risen. Theyll take that money and spend it and a lot of it on raising their children. Im not saying this alone will change it but playback combined with the good economy which there more jobs that pay more prices are lower that will help people. And we have to in that regard. I wanted to set the stage for that because unfortunately theres a complicated thing theres going to be a lot of misinformation about who this helps and how the economy works. Its important to be clear and upfront about why were doing what were doing when i hear this talk about helping millionaires and billionaires, will be fine either way. There figured out one way or the other. If you tax them too high though go to another country. The people you really want to help her working people and Small Businesses the tax code is a part of that. Thats why this has to happen. Its been too long last point want you to take a step back and say 50 years from now people read about this in American History the less what was wrong with those people, did they not realize these countries were taking their jobs theyre leaving because theyre giving them away. Youre acting so arrogant to think that you could charge them anything in taxes and think they would stay. Its less true today than ever before. The people really being hurt the people whose jobs dont pay enough. The people who are being hurt by those who wish they could start their own business but they cant because they dont think they can make enough money to survive. Parents are trying to raise children in the time when everything costs more. Every month they write out on a piece of paper this is the budget for the month. About 14 or 15 days of the months something comes in the mail and all of a sudden that budget got blown up and i have to use the credit card to pay for it. The kids were 17 years old and i want them to go to college but i dont know where they can go. Even with financially have to borrow money another and debt before they even vote in their first election they owed ten grand. We have to help that a for going to rebuild. My last point, want to talk about debt and this will grow the debt. If you lower the tax rate businesses are hiring more people and created more jobs that will grow your economy. When you grow the economy you have more taxpayers. You have more revenue. You still have more taxpayers. Depending on a normal unrealistic growth rate would more than pay for the money that people will say were not to collect. The other thing, if we stayed here and said lets take 1. 7 trillion expended to build stuff wed say thats stimulus but if we give it back to people to spend it themselves, thats bad debt, thats ridiculous. If youre never gonna text a way out of debt anyway. Even if we tax everybody in america everybody who made a Million Dollars lecture we took every penny and said your tax rate is hundred it wouldnt make a dent on the debt. Thats how big it is and how fast its growing. You cant cut your way out of it either. The only solution to the debt longterm is you have to do two separate things. You have to grow your economy, the pie has to grow in the debt has to be held back. Grow the economy by 4 and grow the debt by 4. 5 will get there. This is part one. Part one is grow the economy. Part two is to bring your suspending on a sustainable path so the benefits from the growth is and being taken and used to pay for more government. If you a lot of money and only make 2000 a month and next month to get pay 3000 a month but yet 15 and expenditures in your still owing more money. You have to do both. And you have to hold the long term limit spending. We have a chance to do it and i believe we will. It will be hard and should be hard. People should argue about it, they dont have a lot of arguments about Economic Policy in china by the way because theres not much of an opposition. In america were republic. Should be different ideas so you should be controversial. There should be debate. And there will be. Thats a good thing not a bad thing, as long as that debate is geared towards reaching ever saw. In the end if we dont do i think it will hurt our economy a lot of businesses, players and americans assume this would happen given who won the election theyve already made Investment Decisions on the assumption that some of this will happen. It doesnt happen the collapse will hurt the economy badly. Failing to act will reverse whatever gains weve made this year on the expectation of growth and will shatter peoples confidence in america future. Was sitting thinking where will i open this big plan higher thousand people and you see tax reform collapse in the United States the people in the house, Senate White House are supportive we still couldnt get it on, you say guess what im not investing in that place is even for the people in favor in charge they still cant get it done. So not doing the tax reform would leave us worse off. Thats why this has to happen. Not only can we not pass without the Child Tax Credit, we cant justify it without it. Im optimistic well get there, the reason so many of us are here, we come here because we want to contribute towards making things better. This will make things better. Those who complain and say nothing ever happens this is a chance. To look back on our service and say we made a difference while we were there. Im excited about the fact that i think world do it. Oh long, hard, but it will be good for our country and people. If we do it right it will be one of the most rewarding things we were to. With that, hell before. Members begin work next week on tax reform proposals. For details on whats next we talk to a tax policy reporter, mr. Rubin. How does the republican Budget Proposal specifically set up the next step for tax reform in congress . It sets up reconciliation. The fasttrack procedure that lets the bill move through the Senate Without democratic votes. It can get on the floor of the straight up or down vote and it can get off the floor with a straight up or down vote. Thats unlike most that has a 60 vote threshold where republicans would need some democratic assistance. So by agreeing on this clears the path for that to happen then assess the budgetary parameter. Says the tax bill can increase deficits by 1. 5 trillion over the next decade. Thats the outer limit that theyll attempt to hit. Part of your headline says that the move starts a six day countdown to the release the closely guarded details of the tax plan. Tell us about what the timeline looks like . You can only keep this on cspan 247 and november. The ways and Means Committee will release the text of their bill on november 1 Start Committee markup on the novembe. The Senate Finance committee will weigh in the following week and probably the floor on the week of the 13th the finance committee and senate floor shortly after that. The goal is to get the house and senate to pass something by thanksgiving. Though come back and try to reconcile the differences between whatever the house and senate passes. It was close getting the budget resolution to the house. Twenty voting against the resolution. A number from new york and new jersey with concerns about state local Tax Deductions. What dont they like about that been included. They dont like anything about repeal being included. Fear from a high tax state, california number those voted against the budget here able to deduct your state local taxes and property taxes. Thats a real benefit for residents of the other things like a bigger production and lower rates will not offset that loss for people particularly in the states and districts. Republicans are tryin tdown thea point that if they want to solve a problem that the have theyre going to try to reach an accommodation a deal that mina get all 11 members who voted no, but theyre going to have maybe a way to get a few of them. And to focus somehow and property taxes and bigger concern my just never be able to vote for the. The democratic leader, nancy plus after the vote issuing a letter to all members say caucus has to be fully mobilized. Was there number one argument against the tax reform package . That theres a real benefit to millionaires and billionaires. This plan even though we havent seen details this too much for the people at the top of the estate tax. And for democrats thats unacceptable way. The second argument is a deficit. They can increase budget deficits and increase pressures even if those arent specifically on the table as part of the tax bill it creates a desire among republicans and an argument to cut the programs later down the line. You treated for about john cornyn saying the goal is to get the tax bill through the senate before thanksgiving, reconcile with the house as you mentioned. You write about obstacles in every direction. Furthermore in the senate the house . Thats will find out in november. They have 52 votes they can only lead to members go. You can imagine they might have some difficulties. Corkers talking about center paul wants large tax cuts. Senator flake is generally with republicans on issues but hes having a problem with his party right now. At some level they can only lose two of those members. B the challenge for republicans and putting the package together. Has white house been taken an active role with Steve Mnuchin and gary cohen, have they been participating weakly or regularly with members of congress . That was happening more of the summer. The last few weeks they been engaged but letting the committees do the detailed work to get the bill where it needs to be to pass. We did have a situation where the president weighed in on changes. Members are sensitive to hearing from the president and having him get involved which is political clout among the Republican Base but also talking about what can change in what has to change can up and the process. The dynamic between the president and the twitter account to the republicans on the hill bears watching as november comes forward. Lots of text abated. Richard is a tax policy reporter, hes on twitter. Things for joining us. The Cato Institute posted a form on capitol hill. 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