Thank you very much. Good evening. I am bradley coowner politics and prose. [applause] along with my wife. And be half of the entire staff, welcome and thank you for coming. [applause] what a marvelous crown what a great space for a book event. Thank you to the warner theater for making this spacious place available. As much as we enjoy hosting our authors that are store on connecticut avenue northwest, we had a feeling that a somewhat larger venue would be needed for this one. In fact, this is the largest author talk that we have ever sponsored. Tickets sold out in a matter of minutes. So congratulations, you are the lucky ones. Since its release one week ago, what happened, Hillary Clintons new book about the 2016 election has landed on the bestseller list and generated nonstop commentary and conversation. Some things never change. Hillary has given a number of interviews about the book but tonight she is with us in person for what is the first on the 15 city tour that will take her across United States and canada. [applause] in the days and weeks following the election hillary took long walks in the woods with her dog, consumed more than a few glasses of chardonnay and tried to regain her variance. Ten months later, she is back with renewed strength and fresh purpose. And with a thoughtful and personal account of why she lost in the lessons that can be learned about what was a deeply confounding and disturbing race. Many of course are familiar with hillarys long and storied career. From lawyer in africa for children to first lady of arkansas, first lady of the United States, u. S. Senator from new york, u. S. Secretary of state, and the democratic partys president ial candidate. [applause] she is the daughter of you and dorothy, wife of bill, mother of chelsea, and grandmother charlotte made in. Along the way, hillary has managed to write books. In fact, this is her six. Reviewer seven so far seem to agree on one thing. In these pages, she is less guarded than ever before, more revealing, blunt, and authentic. She said she didnt intend the book to be a comprehensive recap of the campaign, and it isnt. But it does convey with roy motion, humor, and insight how it felt to run for president as the first woman nominated by the first Major Political party. [applause] and how it has felt to deal with the aftermath of a shocking defeat. One other thing comes through loud and clear in what happened, hillary intends to remain active and speak out hillary will be in conversation with my wife, the two go back a long way. At various times of the best to an decades she is looked with hillary as a chief speechwriter, communication book collaborator and Campaign Advisor including several stints helping in the 2016 campaign. Currently she is writing her own book about her experiences as part of hillary land, the small group of staffers, mostly women who started with hillary 25 years ago in the white house and have remained in her orbit sense. To take moments recognize that in the audience this evening member of members of hillarys 2000 campaign staff. Theyre out there somewhere. They toiled mightily for months to help their candidate are nearly 3 million more votes than the republican nominee. And now, the stream in welcoming the woman who one more than 65,800,000 votes in the last election, Hillary Rodham clinton. [applause] [applause] [applause] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] thank you all for coming, you so make 65,008,000 people. Thats great it is such a great crowd, thank you for being here. Thank you for being here. I feel like we just did this. That was three years ago. We did for your class book, hard choices. There were back for what happened. Its not what happened , its not what happened. Ellipsis. Its just what happened. Congratulations, book number six. By the way, produced in record time i might have. Its a very personal book which im sure those of you who read it now and if you watch the interviews and her you know, i just want to say one thing its about the 2016 election and because Hillary Clinton is Hillary Clinton, it delves deeply into very broad range of important issues from the erosion of our Democratic Institutions, their growing signs of totalitarianism creeping into aspects of our lives, thrilling backup putting rights, healthcare, environmental protections, and of course ongoing daily if not hourly moreover examples of sexism and racism across our country. What i wanted to say is if you dont have it yet, so pick your book up on the way out. In washington you look in the index and you pick and choose what you read. No. , start at the beginning read all 469 pages because she has a lot to say and a lot to say about important challenges facing this country. If you read from start to finish youll learn a lot. Its fascinating. And really important stuff. Thank you for that. Tonight well try to keep it more personal if thats okay. I want to start with how the book came about. You and i had a conversation in the winter and he mentioned to me that youre thinking of writing a book about the election and then we had several more conversations about this over the next weeks and months. Each time i said to her, emphatically, you are nuts, thats a crazy idea, why would you do that. Its way too soon. Youre still processing everything. I dont know about the rest of you but everybody i know was experiencing where things like insomnia, anxiety, gastrointestinal disorders, in fact a friend of mine who is a dr. Said its an election related syndrome. So, were all going through this. I did not see how you could possibly in such a short time and so soon after the election process all of it for yourself. In the central actor in it so i advise you not to write it. Of course, thankfully she did not listen. There was very wise on your part. Here we are with this wonderful book. Im wondering how did you process it so quickly, and apparently this did not involve any therapy along the way. Thats a sign of something. Actually it was my therapy to be really clear. You have been a friend of mine and colleague of mine for a long time now and is a terrific writer, a great reporter when she worked for the post and other publications. So i take what she says very seriously when it comes to writing. She did come to see me like a number of my friends who rallied around, came to support me listen to me vent, share their concerns and worries and i had after the election as you can read in the book, pretty much nothing i wanted to say to anybody. I was so devastated and it was incredibly painful. It took weeks of getting up every day, cleaning closets, going for walks in the woods, all the things i did to begin to clear my head. But other people were commenting and writing about the election and i just didnt think there was a broad enough view and comprehensive understanding of what it looks like to me in real time and what i believed happened, but i wasnt sure. I knew it would take a lot of analysis and evidence gathering. I do kind of believe in facts. So i began to talk and listen to people gather information. And i think it hit me around the inauguration people would talk to me about what he going to do and we write Something Else i was just trying to muddle through, it hit me that there are these important issues that needed to be discussed and debated start democracy and country relied upon that selfexamination and i thought well, i need to know what happened and i need to be as honest as i possibly can to figured out for myself and maybe doing it in a book would provide the discipline, and the deadline to think it through. So really, starting in february dove in and i decided i was going to write it and it was painful. I said the book i would write about something and i would have to go lie down. Because it was so hard to think about the mistakes i made, the missed opportunities. Also to come to grips with these big forces at work that i think had a determinate impact on the outcome. It ended up being cathartic for me personally. From what people are telling me is i have begun doing book signings and talking about the book, i think it does provide some catharsis and opportunity for reflection for others too. Very happy about that. Theres some really important issues we need to come to grips with. I wrote it not to say what happened but to make sure that what happened does not happen again. And thats what ill spend a lot of time on. Just to follow up on how hard it is, as i said to the central actor writing about yourself. It was a mindboggling experience. You and i share favorite author is cheryl straight. I dont know how many of you have read wilder seen the movie and you have a quote from her in the book and i may have mentioned that she once said to me, i asked how do you write about these things that are deeply personal and she says i write to get to a deeper truth. If im not going to be honest with myself why do i bother to write. But, getting to that deeper truth is hurtful, overwhelming, painful, and you have to deal with things that are intensely private. Did you censor yourself at all . Are there times and words her thoughts were just too much and he couldnt go there . What did you do to get to that next level . I ended up not censoring my thoughts i want to put into the book, i did censor some of the original like rich. [laughter] some of those early venting sessions i had a great team of people who vented with me and did research for me and help me better explain what i was renting about. But, i did not hold back at all on what i saw as my own shortcomings and deep disappointments, not just for me but for the country, so is not censored, it was really candid and it was something that did help me get to some deeper and bigger truths about me, our country, some of the really difficult forces that we have to face, the concerns i have and im sure well get into this, everything from sexism, misogyny, race, Voter Suppression, theres a lot there that i was learning as i was writing. When youre in the middle of a campaign, and another people who have been involved in campaigns and for that i think you. When youre in the middle of it youre so focused on the immediate tasks. You know the overall goal is to win and you have your strategies and tactics lined up. Every day is 18 hours of the hardest concentration and work trying to move it forward. Its hard to lift your head up and sometimes its hard to understand everything thats happening at the same time. Being able to step back and go through it, take it apart, look at it, analyze it and write about it help me. Did you learn anything about yourself that you do not know . I really believed in retrospect it was a misconception or out of sync with the time in which we are living in the candidate i ended up running against. I did have this idea based on my prior experiences and president ial campaigns going way back into the 60s and 70s that it mattered greatly if you could make clear what you wanted to achieve. You didnt have to have all the details but it was important to tell people what you wanted to do. So when you are in office they could judge you on whether or not youre fulfilling that commitment you may. So we spent a lot of time making sure that everything i said about policy and how we pay for things was bulletproof. I kept thinking that at some point its really going to matter. And for all sorts of reasons, didnt. So i think i stayed way too focused on a path that was not the direction the campaign was headed because of the pressures from outside forces, because of that reality tv candidate i was running against. I was not as adept or quick to try to figure out what is a better way for me to try to communicate this. These are things that you do the best you can and you think that youre running one kind of campaign and you realize the presses and covering the policy or putting out every day. Theyre covering an empty podium. I cap think you were stuck in a breakthrough because people do care about what kind of jobs, infrastructure and healthcare you want to do for them and their families and incomes. But there is a disconnect. I learned i wasnt as quick to make some adjustments. But you also send the book you developed a new appreciation for big simple ideas. The big simple ideas, i still believed that a big simple idea like were gonna raise taxes on the wealthy thats a big simple idea. I did have that idea centered in my campaign. But theres also an important debate about in Politics Today when we have a really intense, Quick Movement of news and its short Attention Span and social media plays a bigger part, trying to develop a relationship with voters or to engender confidence in voters that you know what youre talking about and you will deliver because you do understand the complexities may not be a significant as repeating those big ideas over and over again and leaving the details for later. Who knows, by 2020 maybe people will want to know details and policy again. You never know. [applause] shes not saying big details just not outlining every detail at a time. I thought that was an interesting observation. One more quick thing about what it feels like, you are so revealing in the book about what it feels like to be a president ial candidate. You have constant incoming, good, bad, medium youre trying to assess information from people all the time. Ms. Interesting in the book that you say in a number of places there times when you wish you had struck back when youre criticized her challenge by bernie on wall street and other things, by matt lauer and that really awful interview. By comey, and then the jaws imitation by trump on the debate stage. In each of those it sounds like also, by the way, even though you didnt say it, do you know how much it warms the hearts of americans to know that you thought about saying back up you creep. [applause] but, in those situations it was honestly such a relief to even know youre thinking about. But in the situations you werent able to do that and he felt yourself constrained and that you are in a straitjacket at times. What is it that makes it so hard to be able to do that . Im sure it has something to do with being a woman will let you answer that. I think it has a lot to do with being a woman. Its very hard to be perceived as strong as opposed to aggressive or any other word you can think of. So part of the challenge is how you present yourself in a mature, appropriate ways a woman seeking a job no other woman has had. I write a chapter on being a woman in politics. Much of what i say goes to being a woman in business, in a woman in any professor. Its not just politics. As i tried to describe my thought process on the stage, it was hard. We have practice what i would do if he invaded my space because we assumed he would, he had his own issues he was trying to push through. So we knew it, but once you there and its happening to you in realtime in front of 60 million people, you are discomforted, you are annoyed, youre frustrated that he is stocking in and staring at you. So i was going back and forth. But i have believed that its better not to show that kind of reaction in the middle of a president ial debate. As you might think back, funny gestures, facial expressions, heavy size, things really do affect viewers. I just ended up believing that in addition to the gender linked aspect of this, there is a history of people and president ial debates who had deviated in a way to show frustration, anger, dismissiveness and paid a heavy price for it. I thought whatever price they pay i would pay double or triple. So i just thought i sort of thought at the end of the day people would say we really do want somebody who is calm and composed in the oval office. So i was aware of the different crosscurrents. But i carried on in a way that i thought in a way that is what a president would want to. And you kinda say that you have to wear your composure as a suit of armor to make Everybody Knows that feeling that the next day or the middle you say oh if only i had said that. Theres always that. Is the toughest job in the world, the job that requires or at least use to require a level of curiosity, focus, and things that youd want to think somebody with that responsibility would have. I honestly believed were in a different kind of campaign, unlike any i have seen before. Ive watched people go up and down the campaigns. Is deeply involved in my husbands to campaigns. I know the up and flow of the campaign. This was really different. I dont think anybody fully grasped how it was a variation on a president ial campaign unlike any we have ever seen. Now, looking back i see different signals about that that maybe i couldve done a better job trying to figure out how to push back on or make more transparent so people would understand, mentally what the campaign of his, they have the best empty podium that anybody has ever seen. Get people to think and laugh about what was happening in the campaign. But that did not happen soon enough were quite enough places. Did you watch the emmys last night . [applause] i did. Many people may know you and your husband are big fans of Television Dramas and comedies. And if you wash, sure many of you did, you know that the handmade sale was a big winner, you and i have talked about that book in the past, wit written in 1985 the work of fiction that is now a wildly popular tv series that is about a liberal democracy slowly and definitively becoming a totalitarian state which is sadly and resonant at the moment. That idea of the normalization of the abnormal is terrifying. By the way, doesnt it buggy when people say chump this is the new normal, we should never call it normal, right . Its like the new abnormal. Not the new normal. Seriously, its terrifying and the handmade sale residents because of it. You do talk about that in your book from Voter Suppression and the manipulation of the media of fake news and just the assault on the Democratic Institutions we rely that we need to be able to track. I will get to the fake news russia stuff in a minute but. Part of the reason i was motivated to write this is because of what happened at the inauguration. I write the first chapter about what it felt like to go to the inauguration what a hard decision it was, but how i thought it was important to show continuity of our government. I was certainly hoping to hear words of reconciliation and bringing the country together after a very divisive campaign. Didnt hear that. I felt very uneasy about that inauguration. I have been to a bunch of them. It would out been there when people ive supported one and people live support of loss. But this was different. This is not a normal inauguration. He was made even more surreal with the claims about the crowd size and the introduction of alternative facts. And then i started thinking, whoa. This is much more than just transfer from the twoterm democratic president to an unusual but republican president. I just couldnt really grasp how big a challenge they intended to pose to facts and evidence and reason. All of which are fundamental to the functioning of a democracy like ours. [applause] when i saw that i thought this is much bigger than any transfer of president ial power that im aware of in recent history because of the assumptions that the new administration was operating on in the brazenness of their attempt to distor distt reality and impose their version of facts and truths on the rest of us despite what we saw with our own eyes. That bothered me greatly. Ive said before, if i had lost to another republican candidate, someone had emerged from the republican primary, out of felt better been disappointed, but i went to have worried but the fundamental future of our country, or institutions and rule of law in this imperative of reason that motivated our founders and is still absolutely essential. So i think this became a theme with me because you can disagree about policies, you can disagree about all kinds of things but you cant begin to chip away at the basis of our governments functioning in our democratic norms without paying a big price. So, yes in the book youll not be surprised i mentioned the handmaids tale, 1984, brave new world, because i want readers to say i met may not agree with everything she says but i have to agree with the fundamental premise that we cannot sacrifice truth and facts on partitions ship and the desire on the part of a particular president and his administration to control the news, to undermine the first amendment, to create this alternate reality. I think the stakes of what we faced in this time are profound. Ive said before and i will repeated here, think this president the people who serve him on this alternative reality track posing a clear and present danger of the future of our country. [applause] i think one of the most powerful most persuasive chapters in the book is the one about bots and trolls and russians and fake news. You begin that section of the book, i know one of your favorite books, you have a line from it that begins a section of the book, when reason fails the double helps. And then you do talk about trolls, bots, fake news, theories and my favorite turn from russia with no love. But in all seriousness, this is an incredibly clear connecting of dogs based on what evidence is now available, presumably more will be coming out but thank you for that. Its really essential that everybody read that. Ive never had a chance to thank you for something publicly that i would like to thank you for now, how many of you were in washington during what is inversely known as pizza gate . [applause] those of you have been to politics and prose on connecticut avenue know that the stores only a few doors down. Youve course were onto this step because of what was going on in the campaign. You and i spoke shortly after the election and you knew that, was being targeted. That politics and prose in some of the other businesses are being targeted. You said that you are willing to speak out about it for which we are grateful. At the time we all thought we needed to lie low for a bit. The day the gunman with an assault weapon walked in about an hour after the, you and i communicated and i told you is going on and you responded instantly. You are so supportive which was incredibly helpful. We were on lockdown with police running up and down the streets. People dont know this but a few days after this you and your husband said what can we do to support, can we buy pizzas. You bought a lot of pizzas and set them to an afterschool Literacy Program in d. C. Which was never publicized. [applause] you checked in on me a lot because we werent dealing with it in the same way but we are also getting trolled in the whole 9 yards. I just cant tell you how important it was for me, brad, for entire staff in the people a comment to know that your president clinton were there for us quietly. And ive never had a chance to thank you publicly. And i did want to do that. So, thank you. If i could just say a word because were in washington this horrible chain of events happened here. This is a terrible example of what can be done by people were malicious, unacquainted with the truth, and pursuing their own agendas whether it be commercial advantage, partisan advantage or any other goal. For those of you who dont follow in i may not remember it, when John Podestas emails were stolen, hate the word hacked, they were stolen by the russians. [applause] and they were then through cutouts, given to wikileaks which is nothing more than a tool of putin in the kremlin. [applause] and certainly People Associated with trump new about it because in august, roger stone was tweeting about how john podesta would find himself in the barrel at some point ahead. So, on october 7, 1 of the more infamous stays in the campaign the day started with the director of homeland security, the secretary, jay johnson, the director of National Intelligence jim clapper saying that with high confidence they knew the russians had been behind those facts, those emails. That happened in the morning. Then, the hollywood access page broke and within one hour, sentient and amazing coincidence, wiki leaks dumped all of John Podestas personal emails. If you read those emails i think its embarrassing to admit, they are very boring, but because they were the way the russians and their allies, whoever they turn out to be. [applause] were able to generate constant interest was two factors. One, they sent the press on the wild goose chases, here comes a hundred more, thousand more, gosh then of course the other was that they created the illusion of transparency. If you think youre getting something from behind the screen, maybe its more legitimate even though youre being plagued by a bunch of russians. The psychology of it was brilliant. Course thats part of the russian propaganda effort which theyve used in many other settings. You can only go so far with reading these emails and listening to people is in every campaign you can imagine debate about what to do when so they had to be weapon nice, they had to have elements pluck down and perverted in a way that would be hard to be imagine and then sent back out into the cyber world. In one of the emails john is talking about pizza. Hes a italian agree, and a very good cook. His risotto recipe is still there if you want to see it. Im sure theres something very nefarious about that result a recipe. So johns writing about pizza in one of these really, i consider evil people in the media world and in the online world, they make up the story that john podesta and i are running a child trafficking ring in the basement of the comment pizza parlor. By the way, there is no basement. [laughter] now, you would think people would be laughing like crazy and shaking their heads. But if you migrate that crazy story to facebook post, to news outlets, there are people who will believe that. Including this very unfortunate young man in North Carolina who believed it. It was meant to be believed him influence voting, even i have to say it was meant to be believed to for someone to pick up an ar 15 to liberate the imaginary children of the imaginary basement of the pizza parlor. Bidding came this young man believing he was on a mission because he sought on facebook. He saw it on other places online and on news outlets was there on a mission of rescue. People could have gotten killed. He shot his automatic weapon off inside this pizza parlor. The street were politics and prose is was shut down. It was an active crime scene because people who care more about weapon icing information, making negative stories of them of the truth and facts or even public safety. And certainly any concern about children was nonexistent. They were determined to stimulate, to propagate the attitudes that would grab some people in some states, some conduct districts and county so they would be saying Hillary Clinton and her Campaign Chairman are doing Something Like that they should go to jail. I cant vote for that. Thats the worst example, but theres so many other examples that were the same pattern stealing, to giving to wikileaks, to propagating, to weapon icing into somebodys google chain or facebook post. I think its one of the most serious challenges we face Going Forward in politics not just at the president ial level, but up and down. If we dont get a handle on information that is not just controversy, protected by the first amendment, but aimed at spreading lies to the extent that they can cause behavior like we saw on this terrible instance, it will not stop. Im Glad Congress and others are looking at facebook, twitter and google, they are the vehicles of one of the very First Vehicles to deliver this information to people. I was terrified for melissa and brad and their employees on that street. I can see what the trafficking of that absolutely horrible information was meant to do. It got out of hand. We were fortunate that nobody was injured. It keeps going but the consolation is that the outpouring of support from our community was on believable for comic, for politics and prose, people feel tremendous ownership about their communities and i might just say, mike pence at that time was living about a mile away in a rented house because before he could move in, did he once think about coming in, by the slice of pizza, but the community has been fantastic. Any of you who come here after that, thank you, it made a huge difference. I want to be a little whiter here for a second. Theres a funny moment in the book when you say that president obama told you dont try to be hip, your grandma, just be herself. In my questions did he think youre going to run off to the soul cycle class or taken pics college he course, what is he worried about . Theres probably so many examples. No, he was an extraordinarily supportive and helpful friend throughout the whole campaign. He would call me periodically and say are you getting enough sleep, are you eating well and i said i think im good enough sleep and i think im eating well. That he really stayed up with me and stayed up with the campaign. And i cant remember which of the incidents he may have been referring to, but he was always in my corner and have my back throughout the whole 18 months. So, you love words. Shes a great writer herself, did anybody see your crossword puzzle in the New York Times a few months ago . So were gonna play a word game if thats okay. Its going to get have you ever heard of the game boxers or briefs . So like if your guy do like boxers or briefs and im going to give you two words and without thinking this book is very revealing. But people know now exactly what hotspots you like, so were just can help them out with a few more things. Some in a give you two words and youre going to immediately whichever one most suits you. Ready . I do have to say word about hot sauce first. I have carried hats us since 1992. I just want you to know and there were people who were actually accusing me of just making that up. Its not made up. But i do spend probably more time than i should in the book talking about hot sauce. So if your recommendations just let me know. We can all vouch for her. So two words, this can get progressively harder tea or coffee . Coffee. Beecher mountain . Beach. Shower or bath . While these are all really a fair because i mean really it depends on how much time he had. Pilates or yoga . Yoga by cover chardonnay . Again how much time you have. [applause] to history or mystery. Historical mystery. Buettner trump . Well i have to take that under advisement for the following reason, i ran against both of them. [applause] i was going to say comey or call me you also ran against. I think will take audience questions. Tasted great questions, a lot of them are similar so first row lots of people just said thank you and i could go through a lot of parts quite a few also related to young people and young women in getting into politics so heres one, theres two that are similar, what advice would you give to young woman who wants to go into politics and another one, which you encourage your daughter to enter politics if she were interested but you knew shed experience the same level of sexism youve encountered. Bulimia answer this in general, would say the standing young woman who would ask, i would say look, even though i write at length about the challenges women in politics face point out its not just me who is not just democratic woman, it is unfortunately still a very top double standard, i would still say that if you are willing to enter politics either as a candidate, as a campaign staffer, as a person Government Public Service because thats how i viewed the bigger definition of politics, you just have to be prepared and try to have the confidence without being walled off, without being too defensive. Its easy for me to say, i have been all of those things everys points in my public career but, its a really great experience. It is important to have more women in politics and its important that that we all support each other in the political arena. One of the great quotes that i have love for use as Eleanor Roosevelt same for any woman who enters the public arena she needs to gross skin as thick as the height of rhinoceros because you will be judged everything from your hair to your voice to whether you are married or not married whether you have children who dont have children so its a constant gain. You have to be clear about why youre going in and what you hope to achieve through your efforts. I say in the book by pulling the curtain back in talking how hard it is i dont want to discourage anybody, i want people to be more aware of it. So we can call it out for what it is. This is common across every walk of life. Theres a fascinating article in the times sports section about women in sports and the brie grief they take because of their voice. Somebody was uncalled everything im thinking particularly about voice, it really struck home with me, you just have to be prepared, you have to have a sense of humor to get through some of what you will face, if youre prepared and educate yourself if youre surrounded by good supporters, friends, family and people who can tell you the truth like she told me it was a terrible idea to write this book, grateful for that because shes a friend and we need friends who tells when things are good or not so good. So i have this new Organization Called on Work Together. The primary purpose is to support groups that are recruiting young people especially young women, training them, funding them. We also highlight lift up groups like individuals indivisible, which is leaning the charge to keep her attention where it needs to be. We have to stop this latest attempt to repeal the Affordable Care act. So, i think theres good work to be done. Onward together is really interesting, that was you and howard dean and really thinking outside outofthebox to engage in support young people. After the election one of the things that got me out of bed and moving again with the stories i would hear, people call and say theres this new young group that one of your Campaign Staffers started called run for something in its recruiting more young people with theres a group called swing left, theyre going to try to flip the house, or group i worked with before, rich america which has a great record of electing women, color change which focuses on africanamerican young people getting them into politics. So i felt there so much we can do because at the end of the day, just have to say this and hope you help me figure out how to help me make it happen, everything we can do, who can write books, we can speak out go to protest, but if we dont get people to vote starting in virginia new jersey, and then in 2018, when i can attend the surround. I can almost imagine a scene in some republican members home and the kid calls out and says hey, you know i dont feel good. Well take a tax cut for the wealthy [laughter] well wake you in the morning see how youre doing because is answers whatever ail use check. Thats really the the inside story of whats going on with this attempt to reare peel the Affordable Care act its to free up money for tax cuts for the wealthy. So we have to keep talking over and over again and not get discouraged because sometimes we think we make a great argument. But it doesnt, you know, take the first time we have to keep going at it time and time again. But we cant be promoting and standing up for Economic Justice to the exclusion of turning our back on all of the progress weve made in moving people forward on civil rights and womens rights and gay rights and human rights. [laughter] so [applause] i just i dont buy i dont buy this false dichotomy you can only be for the economy or o you can only be for people of civil rights thats ridiculous we want everybody to rise. Weeverybody to have a better opportunity and future Going Forward. Lets lets talk about women for a second. Because we both care about women and i think most people here do. Just getting pack back to the other big subtext of the tale is how women treat other women especially women with power, women with power with women who dont have power. Women who have been marginalized and it can be very cruel the way women treat other women youve experienced a little bit of that yourself, obviously. Right, well im glad you asked about it melissa because i write about this. And ill start with a conversation i had shortly before announcing that i was going to run, and it was with Cheryl Sandburg somebody ive known for a long time and really appreciate the work that shes done with lenan with research working with professors at the stanford with the university of pennsylvania marshaling again facts and evidence about what had actually happens in womens lives how we perceive ourselves so she said she wished that everyone who read lenam whawnd she thought was one of the major takeaways from that book which was that the more professionally successful a man becomes he becomes more likable and you know whats coming. The more professionally successful a woman becomes she becomes less likable because our you know, our stereotypes with our presumptions about what is appropriate and not appropriate are just so powerful. I mean, they are rootedded it in our dna. They go back millennium million you say to yourself, okay if thats the case then what can we do about it . The second point she made equally provocative is women are liked much more, viewed much more favorably when theyre in service to someone else. So i was in service to our country and service to president obama as a member of his cabinet in his first term. I left the state department with a 69 approval rating. People thought i was doing good job and i was doing a good job because [applause] they could see me, you know, standing up for our country. Standing beside the president trying to solve problems. And what was fascinating to me it was really horrifying but fascinating was how effective it was to just begin to knock that down and get to the o point where oh, gosh we dont know what we think about it. And cheryl made this very clear she said, you know, if you are in service to someone else, you are viewed favorably. So in the work with place if you go to your employer and you say you really think she recollected get a raise shes been working so hard. You get points because youre viewed as somebody who is a real team player looking out for your colleagues. If you go and say youre working really hard and i would like to be considered for a raise if youre a woman it is held against you, it youre a man its not. And these are just attitudes that are deeply ed in how we see woman in the public arena. Now, i won the womans vote but i lost the white womens vote i got more white women votes, however, than president obama got in 2012. So the problem is one what democratic nominees have to contend with, have to figure out how to communicate, break through better. Now i personally believe that i was doing well enough with white women even republican white women before the comey letter but it stopped my momentum and it played into the concerns that women have about whether they are making a mistake with their vote. I started going door to door in politics many, many years ago. And i was always surprised when i would knock on a door and a would answer i would im here for this candidate and woman would say i dont know enough. I dont to make a mistake. And so that was my personal experience, and, of course, taking it to the last month of this campaign, all of a sudden people are being told you know what . Something is going on. They, you know, theyre going to investigate her again or whatever. We could see that a lot of women in particular turned away. They were discouraged. I dont blame them they didnt mow what believe. I mean, it was outrageous what happened. So youve got to see how women are try to do what they they have as right thing for themselves and their family and often under pressure for people around them a lot of evidence about that. So when a woman runs she has to work extra hard to convince other women that she can do the job that shes running for and weve made progress not enough in the congress in the senate way not enough in governors offices. But getting people to feel comfortable at the president ial level is still a challenge. Theres some statistics in my book that among Democratic Women it is not 80 who like to see a woman president the the high 60s for women and 40s for men which is a lot more man it r republican who is just have a hard time thinking about a woman in in the white house. So these are complicated psychological, emotional, Political Economic issues, and if you think theres just one answer, youre probably going to be wrong, and so we have to look at a much broader set of responses and appeals to persuade women to vote for other women and then to try to make solidarity around that. You one of the nice things in the book, though, is the incredible sense of support you have from your own friends especially overwhelm you talk about a girlfriend being so whats been true forever for you. Youve had these apprenticeships that have gone on and thank goodness for that because they come through other women when their at least close for if each other. Next question from the audience, and were coming close to our time but well try to do these quickly actually no question but im drinking chardonnay with you in solidarity can you demonstrate our alternate nostril breathing, anyway. [laughter] google it. Shes not going to demonstrate it but you get the idea. What has been the most fulfill ing part of your life so far . My whole life what has been the most parted of your i guesses yes. Whole life so far. No, i mean my family and my friends, obviously, for me. Doing work pibal many and i write about i read about my marriage. And my husband, i read about my daughter, and motherhood. I write about my mother. I write about my father. Because at the a end of the day everybody has disappointments losses about view this book about resilience as about running for president. Because for me having the support and the encouragement i got from my family during the campaign and certainly in the aftermath and from my friends, you know, made all of the difference as to, you know, how i felt and whether i could, you know, summon the energy and the commitment to continue to play a public role on behalf of clauses and values that i care about. So i think im a very look im a very fortunate person, and i want others no what happens to you in life to understand that there are ways to get up and keep going, and dont give up on yourself. Dont give up on your pretends on people you care about. Heres a serious and question that i think we all are distressed about whats your advice for federal workers facing internal destruction of their agency a especially at epa and state and we miss you. [applause] wow. You know i am so distressed because theres so much experience expertise among federal employees across our government and it has been hard won. It has been years in the making. And there seems to be a total disregard even a contempt on the part of many in this administration for what federal workers know and what theyve done in the advice that they can give, you know the other night i was talking with rachel matto about this when it came to the state department, and i i have such a high regard for so many of the, you know, Foreign Service officers and Civil Servants that i worked with at all levels in the state department. And i think about some of the crisis that we confront like north korea and you know people who know the language know the history have experience in the korean are peninsula, in china, in japan. They should be sitting in meetings with the highest levels of this administration providing advice and information that could be useful on behalf of our country. Theres such a disdain, though, for federal workers so i guess i would say if you can stick it out, stick it out. Because the tide has to turn, and if we can take back one or both houses of congress in 2018, you will have people you can talk to again [applause] but i know how difficult that is because i know whats happened to people that i worked with in the state department. You know just really being frozen out and demeaned, mistreated. So i know its not easy for me to say this. But i dont want us to lose decades really if you add it all up thousands of years of experience in the epa in the state department, in the labor department, in a lot of the places that are being targeted by the administration. So i hope that we can maintain a core of experienced Public Servants in our government because at some point theyre going to need you. And the country is going to need you and i hope youre still there. One last audience question, though, was whats your favorite ice cream . Oh o, the hard questions that my favorite flavor i guess chocolate anything with chocolate in it. You know but i did want to, i did want to say a few more words about the future because thats really what im most focused on. I think it was important to forget out what happened in order to be better prepared. And you know some of it is smiewtional and attitude but it can all have an effect on not just our politics but on who we are as americans, and im concerned that a lot of a lot of permission has been given to people to be very bigoted, to be prejudice. To lash out at others based on religion or gender or race and every other kind offing characteristic so i think its very important that we not grow weary in standing up for what we see as core american values, not permitting the clock to be turned back, and peoples progress to be reversed. You know, theres a lot problem proud of that the resistance in people in the resistance are doing every single day. [applause] and of course the great contrast between inauguration on a friday and womens march on a saturday [applause] and holding the line on repealing the Affordable Care act, and salasing insurance from millions of americans to say really big deal. And theres ways for everybody to play a role not everybody will start an organization or run for office. But everybody can be sure you, your friends, everybody you know is registered to vote. You can be sure that if you have a free weekend you can go canvas and this year virginia, or in new jersey looking to see strategically where your vote will count the most because in the 2018 election there are going to be some very competitive seats i want 24 congressional districts and have a Republican Congress member of congress in them so thinking hard about how you can support people who stick their necks out and decide theyre going to run, you know, going onis line to combat untruths and attacks and visit be a person who is standing up and posting something on facebook or making it clear that, you know, people are not imponing to be given a pass if they are promoting falsehoods and personal attacks and really horrible positions where its White Supremacy or ku klux klan whatever it might be that were not going to let that go unanswered because its concern critical that people have a sustained commitment to taking our country back in the way that we believe it is at its best in order to have the kind of future that we believe is possible and no one has more of a stake in that that young people. So for me im going to spend a lot of my time, you know, supporting young people talking with young people, and encouraging young people to understand the power of their vote which is still the great unrealized opportunity in american politics and to keep having cross relationships that, you know, cross every line that is meant to divide us instead of obliterate them and to lead integrated full lives with each other. And to be kind of rebuke to those who want to divide us and undermind us, and im very optimistic, i mean, at the end of the day and at the end of my book, you know, i talk about love and kindness something that we talked a lot about in the campaign which you know was something that was my attempt to respond to the, you know, the site of some of the rallies on the other side, you know, vaining bulging and neck and yelling and the pushing and even the violence and you know come on. Thats not who we are. Or o just not who we should be. So at the end i talk a lot about what i think we can do, and should do Going Forward. And at the end of the book im optimistic because i really believe that you know we summon up the energy and get ourselves focused right and keep moving toward that more perfect union, and ill do everything i can to help us get there. And [applause] start the book with Harriet Tubman keep going which has been a favorite of yours and this book someway this in quotes and phrases and i thought that first of all thank you for not going quietly into the night. [applause] well you know i want i just wanted to say that can afford to go quietly away. We need our voices. We need our energy and enjoy this this case it takes the country to get us back on the right track. And its very consistent with my belief that we have to bring people together to Work Together in this, you know, this childrens version of it takes a village which is intended to say you know what, we all have to Work Together and maybe you think it is politically correct are, i think it is america at its best. And so were not going to go anywhere. Were still going to be here, and still fighting and still moving. [applause] and let me just end with, end with a couple of quotes youve been you know by using your voice by writing this book by being who you are by supporting onward together and starting onward together you are a model for a lot people who wonder what they can do, and i just want to end with a few quotes that you include many your book, i think that we can all turn to as we resist, insist, persist, and enlist Nelson Mandela greatest choir is not this never falling but in rising every time you fall. [applause] pope john the 23rd concern yourself is possible to do and elliot only the trying Ralph Waldo Emerson life goes on. But heres the best one, and we will end on this one and i think this one is most appropriate for this evening most proarpght for you and what youve done for the next 25 plus years still i rise thank you all very much for coming out. [applause] [silence] hes a look at some upcoming book fairs and festivals happening around the country. In october will be live for two poling days of authors talks at the southern festival of books in nashville. Later in october, there are two book festivals happening on the same weekend. In the northeast its the 9th annual boston book peel in the south the louisiana book festival will take place in baton rouge. And in early november, the wisconsin book festival in madison. And that same weekend look for us live at the texas book festival in austin. Or for more information about upcoming book fair and festivals and to watch previous festival coverage, click thebook fairs tap on our website, booktv. Org. I have great honor and meeting Clarence Moses l. Aced in 198 and wrongfully convicted in 1988 of sexual assault. He was sentenced to 48 years based on the victims dream. In 1995 with a help of innocent project in new york Court Ordered dna to be tested moses l. And fellow prisoner who is believed in his innocence raised a thousand dollars to have dna tested Denver Police packaged evidence including rape kit, clothes and bed sheets sealed in a box marked in big letters do not destroy. The police then permanently destroyed the evidence by throwing box in a dumpster, a juggle ruled that the mistake was not ground for a new trial. In 2013, moses l. Received a letter from another prisoner admits to the crime. The confesser l. C. Jackson was one of the people whom the victim originally identified to the police in 1987 as a possible attacker. L. C. Jackson was housing i hadnt gotten to this part yet housed in the same detention facility as clarence and was doing a double life sentencing for a 1992 double rape of a mother and her nineyearold daughter who lived ab mile and a half away from the first womans home. The blood time of the attacker matched of that l. C. Jackson Denver District Attorney Office did not interview l. C. Jackson until 18 months after his con education became public. And they have fought vigorously to prevent clarence from receiving a new trial despite c. Jackson confession and matching bloods type. A colorado judge cray kateed convictions and ordered d. A. To retry the case or drop the charges clarence was released in december 2015 but the denver District Attorney has decided to reare try him and he was finally found not guilty on all counts in november of 2016 can we please give a big hand for Clarence Moses [inaudible conversations] [applause] geez. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome you can watch this and other programs online at booktv. Org. Good afternoon everyone. Im delightedded to welcome you here today on our first session of this fall season the washington historic seminar that features one of the leading historians of International Relations arnie who will be presenting on his just published book the cold war a global history. My name is eric im from George Washington jiewforts and im