Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg 1933-2020 20240712

National journal and bloomberg about her legacy and what is next for the court and the nomination process. We will also take your phone calls and tweets, live on cspans washington journal. Ginsburg wasder illegal embodiment of the womens rights movement. Her years on the Supreme Court made her the liberal standardbearer for the Progressive Movement in the u. S. C died she died friday. Chief Justice John Roberts has called her a justice of historic stature and attributes are pouring in for the second woman to serve on the Supreme Court. Her powerful for dissents, as well as her strong opinions, ginsberg will be known not only as a powerful justice, but as a crusading lawyer whose work changed the United States. He will spend todays show remembering and talking about the legacy of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. We are going to open up regional lines. That means if you are in the eastern or central time zones. Ou will call 202 7488000 if you are in the mountain and pacific time zones we want to. Ear from you at 202 7488001 you can always text us at 202 7488003. And we are always reading on social media on twitter and on facebook. We will spend todays show talking about the life and legacy of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Before we get into the conversation we want to bring you video of Justice Ginsburg speaking at Stanford University in 2017. Here is what she said. Can you encapsulate what it means to lead a Meaningful Life for you . Justice ginsburg to put it doing something outside of yourself. Students ilaw address now and then, if you are going to be a lawyer and just practice your profession, well, you have a skill, so you are very much like a plumber. If you want to be a true professional you will do something outside of yourself, inething to repair tears your community, something to make life a little better for people less fortunate than you. That is what i think the Meaningful Life is. For oneself, just but for ones community. That is wonderful, thank you. Do think that is the same as a purposeful life . Justice ginsburg yes, i think the purpose is what you aim for. How his family played a part in your own life and meaning in your life . Justice ginsburg it plays a very large part. It is one of the things that justice grew Justice Scalia and me together, because we care a lot about family. I saw a big change in life in the United States between the birth of my daughter in 1955 and 1965. In when my daughter started school i was one of a very few working moms. 10 years later there had been an enormous change. It wasnt at all unusual to have two other families by the middle 1960s. That made me realize it would be possible, for the first time in history, to move the law in the direction of what i call equal citizenship stature for men and women. Host joining us to talk about istice Ruth Bader Ginsburg jeffrey rosen, the president and ceo of the National Constitution center. Good morning. About yourittle bit memories of Justice Ginsburg. The National Constitution Center Awarded her its liberty metal this year. Talk to us about Justice Ginsburg and why the Constitution Center gave her the liberty metal. Best it is so moving to able to award Justice Ginsburg the metal. Hope cspan viewers will you representsbecause it a meaningful and inspiring tribute to the memory of this Great American hero. We assembled the justices and special friends to pay tribute to her. What came through in this remarkable tribute is, first, what came through in that clip. Im glad you chose that clip. Living for others, doing something outside of yourself, serving your community, serving the less fortunate. Every moment of this great womans life was devoted to what she called mastering unproductive emotions like anger, jealousy, fear so she could focus her energy on serving others. I need to convey to your listeners how remarkable it was knowing her. I was struck by how she was every minute of the day every minute completely tuned into what she was doing josie doing so she could conserve her energy. How she lived her life was such an inspiration and what she achieved, as you also said, was to become one of the most influential advocates for gender equality of our time. Also one of the most influential figures for constitutional change in american history. It really is rare as chief Justice Roberts said so well to have a justice of historic proportions. This is one of the most of our time. Eople advocate, time as an transformed the law so the courts came to recognize gender as skeptically as racial inequality. And on the Supreme Court also became not only a voice for consensus and collegiality, but liberalism. We noted in the video and others have noted thurgood marshall, the most important advocate for racial equality. Justice ginsburg is the most important advocate for gender equality in our time. It is remarkable for america and all of us had the privilege of knowing her. Host you had a book out with Justice Ginsburg earlier this year called conversations with rbg. Out of all of the conversations you had, what were some of the things that stood out that you could tell our viewers about . Guest first, it was the manner in which she had these conversations. You could hear it a little bit in the clip you just played. Often there would be a long pause before she answered. Longer than ordinary in a conversation. You had to sit calmly because you knew she was about to Say Something very special. Then she would come out with something extraordinarily original, fresh, and framed perfectly. Carefullyeach word chosen and exactly right. In ourry conversations we talked about what drew us together. I first met her as a young law u. S. D. C. Circuit d. C. E said it. Ircuit judge she connected to the music. And then one of the most ningful conversations [indiscernible] intimateinfant conversation we had ever had. I asked her about the sources of her empathy. She had this remarkable passion to focus on individual cases and plaintiffs as well as the personal lives of those who worked close to her. I said, where did that come from . She said, when i was six years old my sister died. My parents made me realize that is what made me attuned to others. [indiscernible] the combination of empathy and compassion, but also total focus and strategic vision. We all know about Justice Ginsburgs love of opera. Ourwhat else would you want viewers to know about the woman outside of the Supreme Court chambers . What else can you tell us about her life and personality when she didnt have the justice robes on . Guest the first thing about her personal life was her unbelievable marriage to marty ginsburg, love of her life. [indiscernible] just saw how unloved they were. He died of cancer a few years ago. She said, he just made me crack up. They would laugh together. Marty was more outgoing and she was more reserved. Because of their equal partnership they were able to share responsibility for kids. She said he was responsible for her success. She was as mindful in her personal choices and self disciplined as she was in her opinions and writing. Her granddaughter talked about how they would have discussions about whether or not she should have a second scoop of mango sorbet. Then there was the fact that she was the most attentive copy editor i have ever experienced. She allowed me to transcribe our interviews, but she wanted to edit them before. When she gave me the manuscript, each sentence was marked up in her beautiful and so. She would slightly change punctuation and she caught spelling errors that no one else caught. She learned from nava golf an attention to word choice that she took into emails now nabakov an attention to word choice that she took into emails. Using every single moment im so glad you picked that clip. We can all achieve our potential. Is livingiewer asked, a Meaningful Life the same as giving purpose to life . She said yes, and her purpose, her mission, was to serve the great cause of ecology equality in america. She had Unbelievable Energy to achieve that goal. Host last thoughts for our viewers about the legacy of Ruth Bader Ginsburg . This is a terribly sad , regardless ofca your constitutional perspective, your political perspective. We just lost a Great American hero. Spend today paying tribute to her. The liberty metal video is very moving. You can watch that. Decision, maybe the Virginia Military decision. Then her own words, she has a book. Then watch cspan. Cspan does such a great job. Ando the Video Archives talking,tice ginsburg serving, connecting, others, and serving the constitution. Host we would like to thank jeffrey rosen, resident and ceo of the National Constitution center, for talking about the legacy of Justice Ginsburg. You so much. Guest thank you very much. Host once again, we are going to go to our phone lines. We are talking to you about the death of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Beulll start with eula eh. Good morning. Caller good morning. Justice ginsburg, she was small in stature, but she was great in her voice for the future. She has been a champion to us women here in tennessee. We work with bradshaw to be the next u. S. Senator from the great state of tennessee. Can you believe it is in the south . We held her up to the light to follow with her energy and her tenacity. She stuck it out to the end. I hate to have lost her, god knows best. I will continue to move forward in her name as she has put forward for us here in the United States. She has missed all over the world. Jack who waso to calling from new mexico. Good morning. Caller good morning. I am jack strickland. It is a very Beautiful Day here. I read a touching article about Justice Ginsburg was posted at a feminist website. I dont know if you heard about Citizens United nationally, but feel free to look up their acronym. The article was written by a man named frank hassell. Aboutbasically fanfiction what would happen if george floyd that misses ginsberg in the afterlife. That floyd would rock her at anpoint and rape her in alley. I think you should check it out. Host lets go to mike in stockton, california. Good morning. Caller good morning, jesse. There is no question that Justice Ginsburg had a really at mind. Her husband was equally brilliant. I know of his reputation. He was the problem i have. And i want people to think about this. You cant deny her brilliance. You cannot deny her cleverness. But because she was sophisticated and worldly, she understood what planned parenthood was about. This planned parenthood and people are recognizing it now was founded by Margaret Sanger. And Margaret Sanger was a eugenicist. What ginsberg is going to be remembered for is roe v. Wade. And her defense of it. My problem with Justice Ginsburg and i want people to try to reconcile this and think about it in the upcoming election, amy vera isecause being considered to replace or, her itr replace was designed to decimate our black population. This is acknowledged. They are trying to disassociate sangers name with planned parenthood in massachusetts. To assess Justice Ginsburg and what she was about, especially in the time of black lives matter and that population being targeted for abuse and for wasrmination how ginsberg able to recognize or ameliorate in her mind what abortion means for our black population . , who wass go to buck calling from lexington, texas. Good morning. Caller good morning. Ginsberg, it about is too bad she is gone. It is going to be a great loss. I think she had a great sense of humor. Shes a great person. My condolences to her family. It is not easy, i know that. You all have a nice day. Host Justice Ginsburg spoke about the future of the Womens Movement at Stanford University in 2017. We are going to bring you a little bit from what she said. Theice ginsburg constitution and the court, we aim to ensure that we leave the court the third branch of government will be in as good shape as it was when we joined it. Earlier i spoke of great changes i have seen in womens occupations. Yet, one must acknowledge the still leak part of the picture. The people in poverty in United States and the world are women and children. Womens earnings here and abroad trail the earnings of men, with comparable education and experience. Workplaces do not adequately accommodate the demands of childbearing and child rearing. And we have yet to devise effective ways to ward off Sexual Harassment at work and Domestic Violence in our homes. But i am optimistic that the Movement Toward enlisting the talents of all who compose we as people will continue expressed by my brave colleague, the first woman to serve on the u. S. Supreme court, Justice Sandra day oconnor. For both men and women, the first step in getting power is. O become visible to others and then to put on an impressive show. As women achieve power, the barriers will fall. As society sees what women can do, as women see what women can do, there will be more women out there doing things and we will all be better off for it. Expectation i can only say, amen. Host lets speak with some of our social media followers are saying about the life and legacy of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Says, weone post that have lost a giant in judiciary. Another tweet that says, though i disagreed with rpg on most issue, imost every admired her tenacity. She led a fabulous life. There was nothing mediocre about her. Was assing of rbg tragedy. Our loss will extend far beyond the immediate future. A post from facebook reads, she held tough, like a soldier. Another post from facebook that reads, regardless of where one stands in the political spectrum, we are talking about the death of a human being. Politicsy to focus on rather than having empathy for those who were closest to the deceased. She impacted society in a way that changed society. May she rest in peace. Youre going to go back to the phone lines and talk to you about your thoughts about Ruth Bader Ginsburg. First i want to bring you images from the Supreme Court last night as people came out after hearing about the death of Justice Ginsburg. People came out to the Supreme Court and left mementos, and gathered in honor of the memory of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Lets go back to our phone lines and talk to yaya. Good morning. Caller morning. I just want to say that it is tragic she is gone. Because, you know, women are still fighting to make men understand that abortion is not about babies. Abortion is about a woman being able to control her own cycle and a woman being able to control her own destiny. She understood that. It has nothing to do with the moral or immoral argument. It had to do with freedom and a womans right to have a say in our futures. It is sad that she is gone. Who wasts go to carol, calling from maryland. Good morning. Caller good morning. Agree and recognize that Justice Ginsburg was a great woman. I am sorry to hear about her death. For toit is time take a good look at the people who are in power, such as her and john mccain, john lewis, who are very, very ill, under medication, and getting chemotherapy and all of those things affecting their minds and physical being. There needs to be, at some point, where these people step down or take a break, because they are making decisions that affect all of our lives. I dont want to take anything away from her and all that she did. But i do not think i think there comes a point where the people in power who are very ill and up in age need to step aside or retire or take a break until they are fully recovered and ton come back into return their positions. Because they are affecting decisions that make all of our lives. Host carol, how do we make those decisions . Would you put that power who do you give that power to decide whether someone is physically capable of doing their job or not . Caller i think if they left it up to the American People, they were about the same way that i am thinking right now, if you leave it up to the congress, the senate, the Supreme Court and everything, they vote everything to their advantage, just like term limits. They will never vote for term limits because they never want to step down. Did like strom thurmond, he not retire until he is 99. You cant tell me i mean, he died in his position. You cant tell me at 99 he is thinking like a 50 or 60 or 70yearold man is thinking. You cannot leave it up to them. The American People have devote this. It has to be put up into the hands of ordinary citizens, because when they are sick at work they are told they have sickleave, they cant work when they are extremely ill. Tot carol, would you agree an age limit for voting in the United States . Caller no, i do not. Except if someone is deemed incompetent or shows signs of dementia. Then that is up to the family to decide about all of the decisions they make, not just voting. Host lets go to paul who was calling from fort lauderdale, florida. Good morning. Caller good morning. I suppose Justice Ginsburg was a great person and i really dont disagree with what people have said about her today, in a positive way. But she also said she believed in a living constitution. And a living constitution is really a political constitution. And things that are decided by the Supreme Court, they themselves, scalia and ginsburg have said, the Supreme Court should not be deciding these things. They should be decided by the vote of the people. Add thatust like to what justiceears may be supported to the Supreme Court should realize that there is nothing the Supreme Court does or decides that cannot be rectified or changed by the congress of the United States. Host lets go to lucius was calling from greenville, south carolina. Good morning. Caller good morning. I would like to pay my respect and whatnsburg family the Supreme Court justice stood for throughout her tenure. Throughout her tenure in the Supreme Court. Most of all i would like to say oft this might be a moment. Eparatism this lady did all she could do for the country, as an american. America needs to get together on being americans and let political ideas be challenged at the voting boxed. Thank you for letting me practice my view. Host last night in minnesota President Trump was asked about whether he had heard about the death of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Here is what President Trump said. Trump she just died . I didnt know that. You were telling me for the first time. She led an amazing life. What else can you say . She was an amazing woman, whether you agree dont not. She led an amazing life. I am actually sad to hear that. Thank you very much. She practiced the highest american ideals as a justice. Ginsburg stood for all of us. As i said, she was a beloved figure. You all know the story, she persisted, overcoming a lot of obstacles for a woman in practicing law in those days. As well as, she continued until she moved herself in a position where she could end up changing the law of the land, leading the effort to provide quality for women in every field. She led the advance of equal rights for women. Its hard to believe that it is heronor to preside over confirmation hearing. I got to meet her at the time her to the Supreme Court. In the decades since she has been consistent and reliable, and a voice for freedom and opportunity for everyone. Know, and she never failed. She was fierce and unflinching in her pursuit of the civil and legal rights of everyone. Was democratic president ial nominee joe biden talking about his memories of Justice Ginsburg. As joe biden said, he was the senator who presided over the Justice Ginsburg confirmation hearing in 1993. Once again, tributes are coming in from all around the nation, but we are also beginning to hear conversation about who should replace Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Im going to bring a few tweets that talk about the replacement and talk about Justice Ginsburg. This tweet comes from senate aquatic leader chuck schumer. He writes, the American People should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court justice. This vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president. Here is one from mark meadows who tweets, joining the whole nation tonight in warning. Mourning. A dedicated Public Servant and an inspiration to so many. My prayers are with her family and friends. Eightweek coming from elizabeth warren. Underway,g already ruths most fervent wish was for her replacement not to be named until a new president is installed. Must honor her wish. A tweet from senator Lindsey Graham. It is with Great Sadness i learned of the passing of Justice Ginsburg. Justice ginsburg was a trailblazer who possessed passion for her causes. She served with honor and distinction as a member of the Supreme Court. While i had many differences with her, i appreciate her service to our nation. My thoughts and prayers are with her family and friends. She rest in peace. Host once again, we want to know your thoughts about the death of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Lets go back to our phone lines and talk to greg who was calling from denver, colorado. Good morning. Caller good morning to you too. Was, never let anybody kick a hole in your dreams. She never let anybody kick a hole in her dreams. Mcconnell antch opportunity to rise above partisan, hypocritical havey years behaviors. Instead he chose to embrace his particle partisan, hypocritical behaviors. Its a shame he hasnt learned about anything except for how to be on trustworthy and a hypocrite. Was lets go to jerry, who calling from allentown, pennsylvania. Good morning. Caller hi. Thanks for taking my call. Think thank Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I have a daughter who became a to the wonderful things that Ruth Bader Ginsburg did for women. Republicans i hope there is enough compassion until they to wait election is over and we have a new president. I hope it is joe biden. She did so much for this country and i admire her so every woman in my family admires her a great deal. Host lets go to larry who was calling from resto, tennessee. Good morning. Yes, i feel like people like her only come by a few times in a lifetime. , fair, andonderful honest justice. There aint enough verbs in the English Dictionary to describe Mitch Mcconnell. Mark, jesus, what kind of human being is he . Lets go to tom from virginia. Good morning. Caller good morning. I wanted to extend my condolences. Will we hope the republicans will behave the right way. The last caller said, few people come along in a lifetime who have as much influence over American Culture and the history of our country as women and men ultimately of the caliber of Justice Ginsburg. That my hope also is that the president has already announced who he might pick from as a replacement. I think you think he should leave it at that. Maybe biden does the same thing, although he probably wont. Political it will become a political lever in the election. At the same time, everyone has known for, probably close to two years, that this woman who had given so much sacrifice, so much for our country had been forced to languish in that position. And everybody knew that she was very, very ill. I think the real tragedy in this encouraged was not to step down and spend her last remaining years in comfort and in solitude, rather than essentially trying to force her to stay alive long enough to prevent another Supreme Court justice appointment by our sitting president. That came that was a political decision that was made, i believe, by the democrat leadership to try to prevent that. That is really the tragedy in this. Again, my condolences to the family. She has left a mark on our country that who lets go to lorraine, was calling from washington, d. C. Good morning. Caller i have to admit i did not know her story until last year when the movies came out. The documentaries, as well as the hollywood version. I was right on, and terms of what she was doing for women. I love her tenacity. She worked up to the very last minute. I think that is a testament to her commitment to the not the advancementt to the of our leaving up to the constitution and opening the doors of access to being a more fully realized american. Again, my condolences to the family. Thank you. An event at Georgetown Law School in 2018 Ruth Bader Ginsburg talked about the idea of her being a trailblazer for women in law. Here is what she said. Tonight is mostly comprised of law students. If you look out at them, we see a lot of females. And also a lot of males. That wasnt the case when you went to law school. You were at harvard we were one of only nine women, then at columbia one of 12 women. We wonder if you could share with our audience what that was like, being one of so few women in law school and what law school was like for the women . Justice ginsburg in my first year class there were nine women and over 500 men. We were divided into four sections, so most of us had one other female companion. Usfelt that all eyes were on. That if we were called on in class and we gave a dumb answer people would think, well, what do you expect . Superprepared. The difference was noted by a colleague of mine at Columbia Law School. Now we are into the middle 70s. Women are showing up in numbers in law school. He admitted to having a certain days. G for the good old why . Because he said in the class was moving slowly and you needed a crisp, right answer, you called on the women. You could proceed. Nowadays, he said, there is no difference. The women are as unprepared as the men. [laughter] i think you have talked to us before about these dean dinners. These are not the kind of dinners that dean traynor has, would you like to share . Justice ginsburg this is the famous dean griswold, who would invite all of the women in the first year class to his home for dinner. An escort. Us had mine was a professor who was visiting that year. After we had dinner it was not a distinguished dinner and there. As no alcohol served he brought us into his living room, arranged the chairs in a usicircle and asked each of in turn to tell him what we would what we were doing at. He law school i must say, the dean did not ask that question two wound. He was not noted for his sense of humor. In fact, he had been one of the people who most strenuously urged the admission of women to Harvard Law School for the first time in 1951. He had worked out a meticulous budget of how much it will cost. What would it cost to admit women to Harvard Law School . They had to install a womens bathroom. It was going to cost 25,000. [laughter] it would be no room for them in the dean still had to contend with doubting thomas is on his faculty thomas on his faculty. School hadought the made an egregious error. So we asked the question to be armed with the women students answers so he could tell his colleagues. They have plans to use their law degree do good things. Host lets go back to our social media followers and see what they are saying about the life, legacy, and death of justice Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Here is a post that says, payback for treating kavanaugh the way they did. Payback for not giving trump one day of recognition. Payback for fake impeachment. Selecting a justice before people finish mourning would be retribution. Says, if weher that were only to vote for women, then we were returned to the paternalistic society. Says, another text that Ruth Bader Ginsburg proved that not all heroes where capes. Some of them where ropes. Wear robes. Nother post says, she does deserve this honor. Nobody deserves to die from what she did, however she lied to the country and had no right staying in her seat. One last post from facebook that says, she should have stepped down a few years ago. She was a very smart lady. Lets go back to our phone lines and see what you are saying about the life and death of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Lets go to robert, was calling from maryland. Good morning. Caller good, big man, how are you doing . Host just fine, go ahead, robert. Caller it is rare in our country we have two people that are celebrated with such appreciation. There was a 17 dedication to eisenhower. Yesterday misses ginsberg died. Both people were highly respected all over planet earth with integrity and compassion. Above Political Party. The whole world is a better place because of eisenhower and misses ginsberg. Familycompassion for her whene need to even President Trump gives her adulations, that shows we need to get back to being america with this kind of way of dealing with life. Thank you. Host lets talk to carlos, was calling from land o lakes, florida. Good morning. Caller good morning. I want to thank justin Justice Ginsburg for the perspective she has given us, the inspiration for our whole country. Regarding nominating somebody else, the president has been there for four years. With the senate being republican, i can understand it doesnt matter who is president. Every president in office under this situation would vote for a new one. It would also force biden to put out his list, is a huge factor in how people are going to vote. I think its only good for the country and i think he has every right to do that. Thank you. Host lets talk to rebecca who was calling from sacramento, california. Good morning. Caller hi. Appreciate i can what she did for the country and the world. , we can for the u. S. See one of her best friends on the court was scully. Yet they scully r. Yet they respected each other. People, if you say anything, and you inddenly they remove facebook. We need to learn to observe and listen to each other so we can learn from each other. That is one thing i appreciate from her. The third thing is, the constitution for her, she really respected the constitution. However, my concern was that what she should have been was to stay home and be able to spend that last time with her family. This is the same concern i have with biden. , ia Health Care Professional have concerns that he might have an issue with health because everything that he does is reading it and he is not even reading it properly. Again, im concerned that the democrats put him. They should choose somebody else because im concerned about the decision. Back in february of this year Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell went on fox newss special report and was asked if he would hold the scotu s seat open if a vacancy happened before the november election and was asked about his decision to block judge Merrick Garland back in 2016 and that position came open while president obama was in his last year of office. Here is what Mitch Mcconnell said. If a Supreme Court seat were to open up, you hold that seat open like you did for mary garland Merrick Garland . Let me remind you of what i said in 2016. I said you have to go back to the 1880s find the last time a vacancy on the Supreme Court occurring during a president ial Election Year was confirmed by a senate of a Different Party than the president. That was the situation in 2016. That would not be the situation in 2020. I am not aware of any vacancy, but if you are asking me a hypothetical of whether this Republican Senate would confirm a member of the Supreme Court, we would fill it. Wouldnt you hear howls . I would, but all but i also would remind you, the senate as of the same party as the president of the United States. And in that situation, we would confirm. Host lets talk about what is going on in the Senate Immediately after the death of Justice Ginsburg. To hold a conversation youre bringing on sack , the senate zack cohen, the senate report. First, it is a sense of loss. There are dozens and dozens of responses, especially from the senate last night, from lawmakers remembering Justice Ginsburg as a trailblazer, as somebody who made a huge impact. Been buried yet and immediately the attention turned not just in this conversation, but on capitol hill to who would replace her. And Mitch Mcconnell has confirmed that he would have a vote on President Trumps nominee. We expect that selection in the coming days. That will be a partisan battle. We expect most republicans would vote for an eventual nominee, and most democrats to oppose, wishg ginsbergs dying that her seat to be held open. Host are there any republicans in the senate that seem unwilling to move ahead with this senate vote now . Or are all of the republicans agreeing with what Senate Majority leader mcconnell said and are ready to move forward . Guest there are republicans backing Mitch Mcconnells decision. She has said they should hold a vote on President Trumps nominee, but then there are a number of key factors here, and number of key senators who have expressed doubt about that in the past. None since Justice Ginsburgs death, but senator Susan Collins has said in the past the idea of appointing or confirming a new justice during an Election Year,. Iting the example of garland senator Lisa Murkowski has made similar comments. Lindsey graham, who is also up for reelection setback in 2018 that they should not be holding any confirmation hearings for Supreme Court justice in an Election Year. Senator mitt romney is another name to watch. He hasnt weighed in on this particular question, what could also be a pivotal vote. Leader mcconnell has a lot of power, but it does require the votes. If he has enough members opposed to the idea of moving forward, it would be difficult to do so. Host what is the actual timeline . How long does it take to get a Supreme Court nominee through the senate . And what is the latest, what is the final deadline senator mcconnell has to get a Supreme Court nominee through and on the bench . More if joe biden wins, likely than not a Democratic Senate would also be the majority come january. That sets up two key deadlines. The first is the election itself, which is ongoing. People are voting in the battleground states right now. They should think of the election as ongoing. , typically justices are confirmed somewhere in 4060 days. Are there is certainly time to confirm somebody. The congress is scheduled to go out of session and recess for the october traditional recess lawmakers would spend campaigning. Wouldthat the Senate Return for november and december for a number of weeks and would be able to take up a nomination. Either holding hearings, then have a floor vote. This is also something that can happen in the next 80 days. Justice kavanaugh was confirmed in about 88 days. There is time to get this done before the end of the year, however if mcconnell were to lose his majority, most likely it would shrink in the a lameduck session. There is a couple of more weeks host . Lets talk about the host lets talk about the current split in the senate. Can democrats do anything to slow or possibly stop a new supreme Court Nomination being voted on on the floor of the senate . Guest democrats have a number of tools to slow the confirmation. They dont have many tools to stop one. That would require the cooperation of a number of republicans. Republicans controlled the 5347. By vote of in the event of a tie Vice President pence with brick that tie. Those of the numbers they got to be looking at. There are a number of procedural tactics built into the rules of the Judiciary Committee that can force delays. It is something they typically do with the pallet and district judicial nominees. There are ways they can slow this process down. Whether they can slow it enough that it could not get done in time for the january 20 inauguration is a different matter. Host we know this will be a huge issue in the president ial election. How will this upcoming nomination fight factor into the election of senators, several of whom like Lindsey Graham, Susan Collins are on the ballot right now. Guest Susan Collins is the most obvious example of this. This is someone who voted to confirm Justice Kavanaugh and it immediately engendered backlash in her home state. Senator collins has been reelected easily in her previous terms, but this is one of her most difficult yet. She is april abortion rights republican. Prochoice, but democrats used that would be one race to watch. You also have Lindsey Graham in south carolina. His challenger, jamie harrison, has been raising boatloads of money. Im sure there would be a lot of interest in his race as well this fall as Lindsey Graham takes a key role in the confirmation of any potential pick to replace Justice Ginsburg. Mccall himself is also up for reelection against amy mcgrath. That could also attract a lot of outside attention, a lot of outside money. Other states to watch colorado and North Carolina, you have one herbal incumbents. You have a number of key races in georgia. The republicans are in a very vulnerable position in their map this year. This election could give conservatives a chance to use their turnout among social conservatives as trump did in 2016, but it could also give democrats the same opportunity on the left. Both have an opportunity to turnout their base. The question is, which side manages to do it better . Host does it put senators in an awkward position of having to choose to either be in washington to oversee a confirmation hearing or be back in their home states and campaign for their jobs . Is there any way they can do both at the same time or will they have to choose to either campaign or govern . Guest its a good question. I think this year is slightly different. The senate is supposed to be in for another two weeks before they go home. A lot of campaigning is being done remotely during the pandemic. Retail politics has changed since the coronavirus landed on our shores this year. Well have to see how senators are able to juggle those competing responsibilities. That being said, it is not unheard of to come back to washington for a boat with 24 hours notice or to go home on weekends to campaign and come back to hearings and come back for committee work. There are ways to juggle that question, there are a couple of senators on the proposed list that we have seen coming out of the white house for a possible pick. Has thewe hearing inside track from President Trump, and are any senators on that inside track . Guest what i have heard from at least one person is that the likelihood of a senator being picked is rather small, more likely than not President Trump will go to the federal bench and people he of all he has already gotten concerned confirmed. Ho is another appellate judge. And then another was confirmed recently to a spot in florida. There are many conservative jurists with good legal bona fides that trump can pick from. He will consider naming people cotton, andz, tom mike lee, some of them are on the senate Judiciary Committee who support the need for a potential pick for a supreme Court Nomination, however, half of them said they are not interested, and the likelihood of a senator being picked is small. There has not been a senator or former senator to make the jump from the senate to the Supreme Court since the truman administration. There is not a lot for that. Host we would like to thank zach cohen for being with us and walking us through what the senate is thinking on the death of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Thank you so much. Toe again, we would like remind you that we are doing the show today on the life and legacy of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg who died friday at age 87 and at her home here in washington, d. C. We want to know what you think about justice ruth gaidar Ruth Bader Ginsburg and her life and legacy. We are opening regional lines. Eastern and central time zone, 2027488000. Mountain and pacific, 2027488001. Once again, we are dedicating the show to what you think about the life and legacy of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Let us go back to our phone lines and talk to bill from pennsylvania. Good morning. Caller good morning. I have to first say that you as a host have done a phenomenal job. The questions you just asked mr. Cohen were right on the money and you took some of my thunder. I congratulate you on the job that you have done. Let us separate the personal from the political. Of course, i am sorry that this woman has passed and my condolences to her family. Was a political side, she justice appointed by bill clinton, so her legacy belongs to his presidency. I think that she did break ground as a woman. So let us compare her to kamala harris, who is also breaking ground as a woman, and i think mrs. Ginsberg, although she broke ground, she ended up on the wrong side of the decisions that the Supreme Court made. Also, she stayed in her seat until 87 years. I think we should compare that to where joe biden is after 47 years in the senate. On forems to be Holding Political power for political reasons. The desiree to have to serve, but we have to ask our they fit to serve, do we have a systemic problem that we allow justices to stay in their seats without any oversight or authority on their fitness . Thatfinally, i would say it is sad to see someone pass, but we have to remind ourselves that jesus said i am the resurrection and the light, and he who believes in me, though he dies, yet cell shall he live. Death is something that we have to look like through those back vectors, so ihose believe that death is hard to endure, that it is opening from another but it is the opening of another door. Host jd from cleveland, tennessee. Caller first of all, my condolences to the family. I am truly amazed at how the floodgates of partisanship have burst open rather than the floodgates of compassion. This woman has not been dead for more than 24 hours and we already have people from both sides or mostly republicans saying and making comments and judgments based upon their political views rather than, as a gentleman before me quoting the scriptures and not recognizing that his statements were not go along with the police of the beliefs of christ himself. It blows my mind that we cannot take a moment of 48 hours the morn this woman mourn this womans death before we talk about partisanship. Being a hypocrite when you say it is ok to replace someone now, but before when president obama was in, it was not ok to do it. It does not matter whether the senate is republican or democrat, it is one country. Host leah lee from three oaks michigan, morning. Caller good morning. I have enjoyed listening to the program thus far, although it is sad and regrettable news. I too recently lost someone to a cancer battle, and my heart goes out to the other justices who might be affected by Justice Ginsburgs death. I wanted to say that i think it is wonderful that you have included footage of Justice Ginsburg talking about purpose and aptitude, and that she included and spoken away about community that involves including yourself. I think it might be possible that she also was referring to the Justice Community when she said do something for your community. Similar to the previous caller, i should say that those statements apply to anybody who is currently affected by political divide or of a minority status, and i would like to remember that Justice Ginsburg thought for minorities including women and children, and people affected by racial or political divide, and thank you for taking my call. Host keith from ohio. Good morning. Caller good morning. I just want to say, my condolences to Justice Ginsburgs family. You know, to me, i do not think it is right for any president , if they are human, they should wait until after the presidency nomination is filled. You know, because this should not even have anything to do with the presidency. Ofis not political, because her passing. It should not this is just wrong. Her passing, they are going to make it a political situation. Her seatnot think that should have anything to do with the Political Part of it. Host let us talk a little bit about Justice Ginsburgs time on the court. During her tenure, ruth bader opinions,uthored 232 112 can can concurrences and 132 dissents during her time. She included 20 concurrences in part. Let us talk about a few of her high profile decisions. 1996, in the United States versus virginia, she authored the 71 landmark ruling that and policy athe mail only Virginia Military institute. L. C. 99, in olmstead versus she made it unlawful to segregate people with disabilities and Mental Health issues to hospitals or institutional settings versus communitybased ones. The following year in the friends of the earth versus laidlaw environmental services, she wrote the 72 decision where forsaid that people can sue pollution violations, even after the company has stopped polluting. Those are a few of the major decisions that were authored by Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg during her time on the Supreme Court. Spoke atice ginsburg Stanford University in 2017 on the importance of civility. Heres what she said during that visit. [video clip] andhe opera about you Justice Scalia, and that is part of the importance you give to collegiality, and you talk a lot about in the ways in which you and your colleagues in the court are very collegial, you she you shake hands and eat meals together. How do you think we can expand that to a broader civil and Public Discourse . When i was growing up, the first branch was very different than it is today. , and i thinkisted back to 1993 when the president , clinton, nominated me with a good job i now hold. Been general counsel to American Civil Liberties union wasseveral years, the vote 963 in my favor. My biggest supporter on the do jesse Area Committee Judiciary Committee was not senator biden, although he was certainly in my favor, but it was orrin hatch. I think today he would not touch me with a 10 foot pole. [laughter] friends, we are still but if it came to a vote on me, i do not think he would be the supporter that he was in 1993. And it was stamina similar with Steven Bryant when he was nominated next year. It was well into the 90s, the vote in his favor. It has not been that way for the foremost reason recent members of the court. And on both sides of the aisle. I wish there was a way that i could wave a magic wand and put it back, when people were respectful of each other, and that congress was working for the good of the country, and not just along party lines. , there will be great elected representatives who will say, enough of this nonsense, let us be the kind of legislature that the United States should have. I hope that day will come when i am still alive. [applause] [end video clip] host let us talk to grace calling from arkansas. Good morning. Caller yes, sir. Ginsburgwith justice has that she has not been dead 24 hours and like the gentleman said i did not agree with his politics, but she was a wonderful human being first, let us respect that. She did a wonderful job before she was on the bench, let us respect that and give her respect as far as being a supreme justice. She did wonderful things for our country, being a human being. She did things and voted did not vote for them, but wrote laws that she wanted passed because we were human being first beings first. We need to look at her and first putting a woman in her place, a strong woman. The first one that does not bring up and try to get laws passed that are politically based from either side. But, for the human race. Respect, dignity, and and humanity first. Our racialabled, for tensions in the nation, and for women. Host let us talk to michael from california. Michael, good morning. Caller yes. Ruth Bader Ginsburg was fantastic for womens rights, and she was also very religious. She was jewish, and i remember her talking one time that she sixly believed in proffered 1619 that has6, to deal with division and hatred. And the lord does not really like people ey evil eyes, lying tongue, and wicked plans, and the last one was division amongst the brethren in the community. Otherr lawsuits and things that she fought for were to stop division in the community, and that is what the lord hates the most, the last six, 1619. Roverbs host nate from maryland. Good morning. Caller good morning. First and foremost, my condolences to the family. Rest in peace. I would just like to say to the American People, do not take the narrativees off the of covid19. Senator Mitch Mcconnell will not be able to push this nomination through before the election, so he may try it in a lameduck session. However, that will pose a problem because if you have a losing president , how will you put a nomination through . And that will not sit well with senators on the right. And then, the hypocrisy of Mitch Mcconnell as other callers have when president obama was president , he denied mary garland from going up to the Supreme Court, and less than 46 ,ays before an election, again i do not want to take away from Justice Ginsburgs legacy or her life because that is important. Again, may her soul rest in peace. Thank you. From minneapolis, minnesota. Good morning. Caller good morning. I do not believe what her niece said that ginsburg said about wanting to read to be replaced by another president. The Obama Administration urged her to step down, and she decided to continue, even though she was very ill, and very old. President lad that the is going to nominate someone. And i am glad that mitch will go ahead. This position is not hers. A Supreme Court position is not owned by an american citizen. Person whok the next replaces or should be the most qualified. I do not care what color or gender they are. This is not Ruth Ginsburgs seat, she does not own it. We the people do, and we the people elected President Trump. Thank you. Host kathy from left city, lough city bluff city, tennessee. Caller good morning, i am calling to pay my respects. She was my idol. I have heard other callers say that since she was sick, she should have left her spot on the Supreme Court. I do not feel that way. I feel that her working cap her away kept her away from her illness, and she only wanted to do what was right for the people. She knew what was at stake on this election, which is the most important election of our history. Mcconnell, when the womans body is not even cold to say that we will have a boat when he did not give it to president obama with garland, i mean we are talking about hypocrites. But here is a woman, her jurisprudence is beyond anything that i think that many people will ever be able to achieve. As she said, she stood on the shoulders of giants. And, she was a giant. Gone. O sorry, that she is i had such respect for her when she first got on the Supreme Court. My heart is breaking. Family, they are wonderful people. Thank you for letting me speak. In 2009, justice ruth gator bid Ruth Bader Ginsburg gave brian lamb a tour of her office including a look at some of her famous robes. Here is that video with Justice Ginsburg and brian lamb. [video clip] back in here i know you have your robes, tell us how that works on courts day. Day, the robes are kept in the robing room, and we all have closets there. And we would enter the robing room and an attendant would help us put on the robe. In this closet, i brought up the robe that i use most office most often in court. This is it. This one. The robe is from england, the is froms from collar cape town, south africa. You know the standard robe is it has aa man, because place for the shirt to show and the tie. I, Sandra Day Oconnor and thought it would be appropriate included as part of our robe, something typical of a woman. This one many collars, is one of my favorites. What is the symbolism of this being from south africa and england . No symbolism. This is a lord mayors robe, not a judges robe. I saw this in the museum in cape town. What is the importance of a robe for a judge . Of wehink it is a symbol are all in the business of impartial judging. And, in the United States, i think the pattern was set by john marshall, who said that judges in the United States should not wear royal robes or they should wear plain black. [end video clip] host talking about Justice Ginsburgs position on the Supreme Court, we will be joined by kimberly robertson, who is bloomberg laws Supreme Court reporter. First, let us talk about what her legacy will be as a justice on the Supreme Court, what will we remember her for . Most people now, know her as a pop icon, the notorious rpg. He rbg she was a handful of justices who were noteworthy before the bench because of her work with the aclu where she cofounded the womens rights project and brought a number of cases before justices and set out gender equality as we know it today. Host what was her major impact and major decisions in the Supreme Court, and with Justice Ginsburg you cannot just talk about her majority opinions, she dissent. Known for her what were some of the cases that will be remembered . Guest most people do not know that when she was reporting for the court, she was seen as a consensus builder. That was what president clinton to billed her as. Membershiper sit changed she became wellknown for her dissent. What got her this notorious rbg status was on a Voting Rights case for which she said the majority doing away with the protections that were provided by the Voting Rights act was something akin to throwing away your umbrella in a rainstorm because you are not getting wet. We says this is working, and need it because it is working and we should not get rid of it. Host have we heard from the other justices about their withies, their time Justice Ginsburg . I know we have seen something from chief Justice John Roberts . Guest we have not, and i am surprised that we have not seen those statements yet. They usually trickle in after an announcement. We do not know what the delay is. It could be tough news for them. But we hope to hear something from all of the justices soon. We have seen an outpouring of support outside of the courtrooms on both the right and the left. Host how will the high court commemorate Justice Ginsburg . Will be expected to see a viewing at the Supreme Courts building . What type of commemoration do you expect to see following her death . Guest if these were normal times, i would expect her to lay in the great hall for the day and allow people to visit her in the public. When Justice Scalia passed away, there were hundreds of people that came to visit them. We are not in regular times in the Court Announced that it would not return for october and conduct those remotely. We will have to wait for the news. I suspect they are trying to figure it out themselves. Host speaking of the future, how will ginsburgs death affect the first monday. The Supreme Court always begins on the first monday in october. I will not having Justice Ginsburg their affect how the courts business moves forward . Guest in the short term, it leaves the court in a tenuous situation. There are four just justices now and that leaves on the possibility that they may deadlock and not decide an issue , and that is important not just in the cases that they have agreed to hear, but some of the election matters that we expect to trickle up to the Supreme Court as the election and this deadline approached. Host let us assume there is an election issue that comes up between now and election day in the court splits with a 44 vote. What happens then . Guest in that situation be decision is affirmed. Is kind of an unsatisfactory result, because you want the Supreme Court to vote on endocyte issues, particularly issues vote on and decide issues, particularly like the president ial election. Host let us talk about the ideological divide, Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg was known as the liberal a liberal vote on the court. What is the split on the Supreme Court right now, and, what do we expect to see from a nominee coming from the current administration, if they can get confirmed before election day or inauguration . Guest we have heard a lot the fact is that we have five justices appointed by republicans and three by democrats. That has led to a very conservative court, even when Justice Ginsburg was on the bench. Chief Justice Roberts, who by no means is a liberal or even moderate. I would expect to see that continuation to a more conservative court continue. We have seen the president issue lists of potential nominees, and many of those people are very conservative in the nature of justice courts. Kavanaugh was an example of that. Host let us talk about the names we have heard. Who are some of the jurors jurists and politicians that might be the nominees coming out of the Trump White House for this position, and have we heard anything from democratic president ial candidate, joe biden, about who would be on his list if he wins . Guest the top contender is probably a woman, Amy Coney Barrett on the Second Circuit and appointed thereby President Trump. And, i think she has a front runner because i feel like the administration will feel pressure to replace just the second female justice with another female justice. There are a number of other women on the list, but the report coming out of the last confirmation that President Trump said he was saving Amy Coney Barrett for Justice Ginsburgs spot. As far as joe biden, he issued a Statement Last night saying he does not the senate should try and fill the seat, which is going to be a lot of what we hear over the next coming months. People taking the exact opposite stance in 2016. Host last question. What do we expect from the Supreme Court, and which cases will day here with the 44 split will they hear with a 44 split and how that will affect us moving forward . Guest one of the cases is that the Supreme Court is going to consider the constitutionality of obamacare, and that is what the justices will consider right after the election, the week after, and that is a contentious case where an evenly split vote would not be satisfactory, particularly as the court likes to consider itself above the political fray. It does not like to be seen as another political institution, but being split on these controversial decisions, that is not going to help the reputation in an Election Year. Host we would like to think kimberly robberson, Supreme Court kimberly robertson, Supreme Court reporter for bloomberg law. Let us go back to our telephone calls and tell us what you think about the life, legacy, and death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Cindy, from indiana. Good morning. Caller good morning, thank you for taking my call. Likenk it is great, kimberly was talking about, not a lot of young women have been inspired by Ruth Bader Ginsburg in the last four years that a lot of young women have been inspired by Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I am almost in tears like the previous caller. It is just one thing after another this year. And, i would really like to see us use as to come together. Let us at least put her in the ground before we worry about who will be on their next. Another thing, i know you are not pedro, but it was really bad that you like that guy caller on, and didnd go not let the other guy bring up the awful implications about planned parenthood. If these we if these people want to spot stop abortions they would be pouring money into planned parenthood. Nobody spot stops more abortion. Host cynthia, from florida. Good morning. Caller good morning. You, judgeay thank ginsburg, thank you very much. As a human being, you will be missed, may you rest in peace. Thank you. Host bert from southwest harbor, good morning. Caller good morning. I had a daughter in 1993, the same year she was confirmed, and i have always pushed my daughter to watch this marvelous woman. She came home last night in that from work, so upset we have lost such an icon, and i agree with the others. We should take our time to her, celebrate, and honor not figure out who will be in her seat next. Thank you so much. Sue from us talk to jackson, michigan. Good morning. Caller i want you to number one that i appreciate the good questions you are asking. Number two, as far as what other people are saying, you do not have any control of that, you are a gentleman, and do not let anyone hurt your feelings. Three, i feel sorry that this woman died, and she did have a good legacy, but i respectfully submit because i will not have other time to say this but now that there are women in this work,who are women, go to and bring children into this world, they do not become icons, but they are icons in the name of the lord appeared the best icon is our virgin mary. We should be more reverent and give more respect to our lord and the virgin mary like we are trying to do to this woman. I am sure she is happy to see her husband. Thank you for a wonderful program. Goodbye. Host gil from jamestown, North Carolina. Good morning. Caller good morning, and i want to commend you for the questions that you have been asking as well. Give me a moment, i want to make a nonpolitical comment followed by a political comment followed by a political comments. In terms of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Justice Ginsburg, i send my condolences to her family. In terms of her survivorship, the remarkable and robust advances in treating pancreatic cancer. She is in the category overall past of those who survive five years and she had two bouts. And theive medicine remarkable advances. I had a Dear Colleague of mine who passed away within four months of diagnosis. Who is aother friend survivor of pancreatic cancer. If we look at 20 years ago, that survivorship rate was maybe 3 to 4 , there have been great advances. Now to the political comment, and this goes to the woman you just talked about in terms of the split. With the contentious election that is taking place in the general, if the Supreme Court is still tied at 44, and the election is contested, what i certainly hope will happen is that the house of representatives will make the final decision on who will be our next president. And, that will foreclose all of the shenanigans that Mitch Mcconnell has tried to do from the senate side to politicize further politicize the Supreme Court. Thank you for the wonderful job you are doing, jesse, and once again, god bless Justice Ruth Bader ginsburgs soul. May she rest in peace. Host benny, from boston massachusetts. Good morning. Caller i am calling to say these people need to stop god,iping money as an idol and be thankful that we had a woman Strong Enough to carry the load, because we put extra weight on people who try to do the right thing. And, these people need to stop pretending that they do not have a mind of their own. They act like they do not know how to say no. You would not need planned parenthood if you had a decency to just say no, i am not going to have sex. You doean, you act like not have a will of your own. You act like you are zombies, or something. Come on. Orangeburg,rom south carolina. Good morning. Caller how are you doing, sir . I want did wanted to mention something, because she was one of the oldest members of the Supreme Court who understood that she was from an era that understood what honor, modesty, nobility, and a number of other things, what they all meant. She understood that during the suffrage movement, women fought for the right things, womens rights, to stop prostitution, to drinking, drinking to excess. Thatought for many things no one even cares about nowadays. Nowadays the Government Supports women pornography, prostitution, abortion, some of the most Disgusting Things that never would have been accepted back then. Are not understand why we putting anyone up as idols when the country is worse off. The family unit is being destroyed. Back and seego what some of our social media followers are saying about the life, times, and legacy of gus of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Shees one text that said had the option to retire during obamas term, a choice she made and future justices should think about. Another text that says whether or not there is a vote, it is a president s responsibility to nominate a replacement. The senate will decide whether or not to vote. Sad to see this great woman pass. Another text that says, i feel sad Justice Ginsburg has had passed. To retirewas able peacefully, unfortunately the Democratic Party made her life political by enticing her to thatby playing on the fear the current president would be in a position to nominate the replacement. Now by the grace of god, she shall rest in peace. Another text that says this is heartbreaking for the country. Our bg was a sound, brilliant was a sound and brilliant mind. She was the voice for the health of body, mind, and spirit of every woman in the United States. An inspiration for young woman women to pick up the torch and for that and to carry on. Much work has to be done for the dutch for Womens Health and wellbeing around the United States and the world. Ginsburg spoke about her famous nickname at an event at Stanford University. Heres what she said about her famous nickname. [video clip] also because of the book the notorious rbg, you are known to the entire generation and you are not just a public figure, you are an amazing public figure. How is that . [laughter] coming, thewhat was notorious rbg, it is the ig. Orious bid, b i said this was perfectly understandable we have one thing in common. You have something in common with notorious big, we were both born and bred in brooklyn new york. [laughter] [applause] is a good example of how young people should react to things that they do not like. Thats was a secondyear student at nyu law school, and when the Supreme Court decided the Shelby County case, a case that declared a key part of the Voting Rights act of 1965 unconstitutional, she was angry, and then she decided anger is a useless emotion, it does not advance your cause, so then she decided that she would start it began withnd my dissenting opinion and took off into the wild butte blue yonder. [end video clip] michaelt us talk to from fort mccoy, florida. Good morning. Caller good morning. I know she argued several landmark cases before the Supreme Courts, and was a real just wanted to say it is sad to see her go, and i hope that the court finds a suitable replacement. Host let us talk to v from washington, d. C. , good morning. Caller hello. I wanted to share an experience that i had with her through my work. And i work at Reagan National airport, and sometimes we have to meet vips, and we went to meet her, and when she stepped off the plane she looked like she just came out of an old magazine. But, you could tell that she had some health issues, and we got her on the bus. But, her mind was razorsharp. She took the time to explain to me and the bus driver how the court worked, how they were independent from congress, and it was just amazing. And, also she shared her personal story as far as her health. She mentioned that she had survived cancer i think two times. I cannot remember what year this was, that was after she said i was diagnosed with colon cancer, and then she was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. And she was saying that because everyd the colon cancer, so often she would have to go in get tests, and they were able to find the pancreatic cancer when it was very tiny, and that was one of the reasons that she survived so long. I mean, it was amazing. And the fact that we got her inside and the bus driver said to me that he could not believe how her mind was working. And she was just an incredible person. She shared her personal story, her work, and some people say she should have yes left, that is a personal thing though, they are there for life. We were likely lucky to meet her and have her. I regret taking a picture, but i deferred out of her health. Anyway, it was interesting to meet her and i wanted to share that. Host there has been tributes coming out from all across the country on Ruth Bader Ginsburg and i want to bring you some of the tweets that have come from members of the u. S. Senate about the life and legacy of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Here is one from senator dick durbin, who writes, the Supreme Courts most valiant lady is gone. Rest in peace. Ernst,a tweet from joni to me one second, give me one second, here is the tweet on the passing of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. I apologize, my screen is acting funny. That is go to mike, mike lee, who writes Justice Ginsburg devoted her life to interpreting the law. To describe her as a gifted lawyer and a jurist who had a profound influence on our country is an understatement. My thoughts and prayers are with her and her family. Senator chuck grassley, Justice Ginsburg thought tirelessly for greater opportunity for all people. She was a trailblazer in so many ways. Tenacity,legal mind, and resilient leaves a remarkable imprint on our nation. Inbara and i join our nation mourning her passing. Cory booker, Ruth Bader Ginsburg was a true giant and a warrior for justice. Our country mourns her loss deeply. We must honor her by carrying on her legacy of fairness and equality. Tweet from final dianne feinstein, under no circumstances should the senate consider a replacement until after the president ial inauguration. Senator mcconnell made his position clear in 2016 when he held Justice Scalias seat vacant for 10 months to deny president obama an appointment. Ony garland was nominated march 16, 2016. 237 days before the president ial election. Today we are 46 days away from an election. To jam through a lifetime appointment to the countrys highest court would be the height of hypocrisy. We are talking about the life and legacy of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Think, to know what you so we are opening up our phone lines to you to talk about the life and legacy of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, so if you are in the eastern or central time zones, we want to hear from you at 2027488000. If you are in the mountain and pacific time zones, 2027488001. Keep in mind, you can always. Ext us at 2027488003 and, we are always reading on social media, twitter, and cspan and facebook. Ginsburg018, justice went to an event at Georgetown Law School and talked about how she got started in law, and how it led to her first job in the legal profession. Heres what she said. [video clip] prohibiting no law discrimination on race or gender. F and friends were upfront in telling me that women are not wanted in this workplace or we had a woman once and she was dreadful. How many men have you had that did not get that . Now, i was looking for a job that some time employers were beginning to think they would take a chance on a woman. Jane, four years old when i graduated from law school. If they were he to take a chance on a woman, they were not ready to take a chance on a mother. A legal job,d get or we would not be sitting here together. What happened . It was a great beginning, as a law clerk to a Federal District court judge, and the way i got that job, i did not know this until years later when my friend said that gerald thought the world about me. He was in charge of getting internships for columbia law students and was determined to get one for me. So, he called the judge who had always taken his clerks from columbia and the judge was a columbia undergraduate and law school alum. Answer was at was as expected, i have had a woman clerk before, so that is ok with me, but this is an intense job, and sometimes i will need her to comment on a saturday and stay late. I cannot risk it. So the professor said, i have a deal with you, when you cannot refuse. She her a chance, and if does not please you, there is a young man in her class going to a Downtown Firm and he will jump in and take over. Carrotcaret, there and there is a stick as well. If you do not recommend give her a chance i will never recommend another columbia student. Generation,of that adding that job was important, you had to get your foot in the door. If you got the job you performed at least as well in many cases better than the men, but you needed to get that first job. [end video clip] host we talk a lot about Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg and her time on the Supreme Court, but we should not forget that she has an entirely different life of note before she became a Supreme Court justice. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg court, sheing the was a law professor at both rutgers and Columbia Law School. She also directed the aclu womens rights project. In 1980, president jimmy carter appointed her to be a judge on the u. S. Court of appeals for the district of columbia. And, after serving on that court for 13 years, president clinton appointed her to a seat on the nations highest court. So, let us go back and listen to some of our callers on what they think about the life and legacy of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Let us talk to milton from new york. Good morning. Caller good morning. It is good to talk to you. About how i enough feel about Ruth Bader Ginsburg, she was a credit to her people, her family, and a credit to the Supreme Court. Sorrywant to say is i am for her loss. Is, what i want to say really, i am not a real fan of like illegal i abortion even less. Rights, the womens right to choose what she wants to do with her own body. It is not my personal belief that i would put on a woman to do what she wants to do. Thing that ihe want, and i hope that we hold off on picking a new nominee. If he picks another nominee, it is going to be the end of roe v. Wade and we go back to illegal abortions, and i am 86, so i remember when abortions were illegal. Anyway, i thank you for letting me say that, and i hope people that are prowomens rights will , and notand speak allow this president to put another Supreme Court right wing Supreme Court justice on the court. Host let us talk to christopher from parkville, maryland. Good morning. Caller good morning, and thank you for taking the call. I want to say, bless her and her family for all of their service. In terms of the comment about our future. I am a single father of an 11yearold boy and it scares me because i think how close the delicate balance and another withn coming in who is a different moral center, and right now we need that balance. That and i heart hope we can move forward that we can move forward for the benefit of our country and our children. Thank you for taking my call. Host teresa from florida. Good morning. Caller hello. Thank you for taking my call. I just want to say, as a woman, ruth has been an inspiration to me. She studied hard, did well, got ,erself a job that she loved became an expert and did it her entire life, and did it well. She had a wonderful husband who supported her, children, grandchildren, she had it all. In this day and age to see someone who is able to love their family and be successful with their family, and their job, and also be best friends with someone whose family is completely different ideologically. And as a conservative, i respect her, and she has been a major influence in my life. She would have been my friend, if i had known her. Thank you for taking my call. Host donna from prescott, arizona. Good morning. Caller good morning. And i have two comments and i love with the last caller said, that was spot on. The second one will make me cry, so i will start with the first one. Another caller said something that reminded me of this. It is possible to be antiabortion and prochoice, and i think that what he said is a really important thing to remember in this divisive time and i think it is one of the across the aisle ways of thinking and parsing thinking that ginsburg might have considered. So, a way to reconcile wellbeing. The second thing and reason i call is a kennedy moment, where were you when rbg passed, that is how i felt last night. Host alva from washington, d. C. Good morning. Caller good morning, how are you doing . Host just fine. Caller i would like to say that i am grateful for rgbs dedication to womens rights and young girls, and so happy i was able to live in a generation that recognized her work and she will live in our hearts forever. Thank you. From modesto, california. Good morning. Caller hello there. I would like to point out that in the confirmation hearings for both roberts and alito, they were questioned about abortion specifically, and they were all isl with let it stay how it unless some really big reason or whatever, and they pinned them down, yes, that includes roe v. Wade. These last couple of gentlemen that trump put up, they just put is this philosophy which just a cover for everything. I cannot comments on anything that might not actually come up, or anything in real life. I will give you a bunch of originalism. I am sorry, i hate to be a creep. Name, oh my his goodness, the senior moment. Anyway. That is the deal on that. Thank you. Holtsville,ia from new york. Good morning. Caller good morning. Host go ahead. Caller yes. I am not going to say i am glad that she passed away, but that would be terrible, but there are 63 million abortions in america, and new york being the mega capital, i would like a different judge with a different opinion, because the young girls today do not really need to have that on their plate. It would be nice to get rid of abortion completely, and be prolife. From las vegas, nevada. Morning. Caller good morning, i want you to morning. Thank you for taking our calls. I appreciate that you are not part nonpartisan. Rooted such a great job. Ginsburg did such a good job. Its so good for the good generation to be the new generation to be law. That is good. Whether you are liberal or conservative, people are fighting about replacing her, but that is the president s job. He has to replace that seat. 4 courtt have a 4 hearing we have to have nine. They have to trust the process. We have been doing it for 100 years. You have to let the process unfold the way its supposed to. Thank you very much. Host as we enter the final hour of the show, want to remind everybody that we are talking about the life and times and death of justice ruth and her ginsburg, who was the second woman to serve on the Supreme Court. She died on friday at seven at age 87 in her home in washington, d. C. March 15, 19 33, a native of brooklyn, new york. She taught at both harvard and law schools. She served as a clerk to a district judge. Off, taking a few years she enrolled at Harvard Law School, where her husband also studied. Moved toduation, they new york city, or Justice Ginsburg transferred to Columbia Law School where she graduated first in her class in 1959. She clerked for u. S. District judge in new york before beginning her legal career, which included stops at rutgers and Columbia Law School before being appointed to the u. S. Byrt of appeals in 1980 president jimmy carter and in 1993, she was appointed to the Supreme Court by president bill clinton. President trump has put out a statement on the passing of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Today our nation mourns the loss of a titan. Notably, just the second woman to be appointed to the court and she was a loving wife to her late wife and dedicated mother to her children. Sheilliant mind and demonstrated one can disagree without being disagreeable toward one collie or different points colleague or different points of view. She has inspired all americans and generations of great legal minds. A fighter to the end, Justice Ginsburg battled cancer and other odds throughout her life. Our thoughts and plans are with the ginsburg family and her loved ones during this difficult time. May her memory be a great and magnificent blessing to the world that is the statement of President Donald Trump on the passing of Supreme Court justice ruth ater ginsburg. As we seek slides around the country are being flown at half honor of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. We want to hear from you on your thoughts about her life and her legacy. Once again, we are going to open up by region. If youre in the eastern or central time zones, 202 7488000. If youre in the mountain or pacific time zones, your number is 202 7488001. At politics at 202 7488003. Lets look at some that are from our viewers. Lets start with this text from rich. From all the justices in my lifetime, there have been many i agree with the rulings. Also if that i disagree with. Rbg is the only 1 the only one that i agree with their rulings. We will miss someone like her, was able to make changes with her intellect and conviction in using her mind to win rather than violence and discourse. She blazed the trail for all of us. Biggest and best fighter i have seen in all aspects of her life. You rbgs her and thank for teaching us to properly make changes in our country. There are others coming in. In this dark time, to lose such a light such as Ruth Bader Ginsburg has me wrapped in sadness today. Here is another text coming in that says, Ruth Ginsburg was a radical from her beginnings. She was an activist on the Supreme Court since day one. Trump needs to replace her asap. Another text that comes in says may all the good she has done for equality not be forgotten. And here is another tweet that says ginsburg had one absolute standard when it comes to womens issues hands off. They get anything and everything period. One text says you can kiss roe v. Wade goodbye. Women have reasons to worry. Once again, we will talk to you about your memories and thoughts about justice with Bader Ginsburg for the final hour. Lets start with donna, who is coming from new york. Good morning. Im justirst of all, deeply saddened to hear of her passing. Anis easy to forget what iconic warrior she was in terms of womens rights. Certainly she was a trailblazer and it is easier for women to now get positions that at one time was so difficult to get as she did and she persevered through all of it. She certainly is a role model for little girls growing up. I am sorry to hear of her passing. Mentions also a caller trusting in the process. Renaming a person to take her place on the court was halted 267 days before the election when barack obama had the right to appoint a nominee. I just hope that the process is respected in that same way and in this instance. Of course, i hope you all remember what a brilliant mind Bader Ginsburg had and we dont forget to mourn her passing. Host lets go to eddie who is calling from massachusetts. Good morning. The liberal against courts. Roe v. Wade is one thing but now we have 1300 abortions and they call it a clinic. It is not a clinic when youre killing babies. There are other things like obamacare. They have the nerve to call a fine attacks. A tax how can they do that . The liberal court has to be changed. It is terrible. Thank you. Host lets talk to james from san diego, california. Good morning. Caller i want to remind everybody that she also stated that if trump were elected president she would move to england. She never did it. How hypocritical can you be . She also wanted to do a lay do away with the Electoral College which allows the smaller tate states the smaller states to have a say in electing the president and she also wanted to adopt european standards. I will not mourn her passing at all and she had plenty of opportunities to move on her own and she did that did not take advantage of them. Host lets talk to matt, who is from maryland. Caller to start with, it would be nice if everybody came together and celebrated the life of Ruth Ginsburg. Not going to have a better woman in my opinion in her generation and my generation. We should all sit together and celebrate her life and her accomplishments for women. A conservative and dont vote for either party, but the court works better when it is balanced. I dont know what were going to see now. I am pretty sure donald is going to push another judge through. They have been pushing federal judges through. I dont mind too much in the federal court, you can appeal and get versus t. But the Supreme Court works so much better balanced and it is a scary thought for me to have an unbalanced court. Not good for anybody. I guess we will see what 2020 has in store for us. Mary, who isalk to calling from austin, texas. Good morning. Caller good morning. I just want to weigh in on the fact that you lost a real giant with regard to those who devote their life to Public Service in ruth ater ginsburg. She was always Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Fairness toys in women and large, she was fighting for protecting preexisting conditions and the issue of people with preexisting conditions who came down with illnesses who require vast amounts of money. Again, the issue with abortion is the same kind of case, if in that we abolish abortions, then pooreople who are hurt are because the rich people will able to get them and have access. It is the poor people, who in the early stages of abortion where they should have the right to be able to make those choices, will no longer able to make those choices and have them imposed on them and whose peoples whose and peoples opinions who are imposed on them. That is very unfortunate. Host just talked to mike who is coming from maryland. Good morning. I am not the most religious person in the world, but ms. Ginsberg, judge before she could see the new jewish year, you might say, you really listen to spooky stuff. I think that we ought to was inr that since she the hospital twice and beat very soundly the first you might look and see thatreligious significance she got rescued from the hospital by this act. Havent talked to anybody about the meetings and that, but it is something im going to dwell on for a while. I thought some of the people in your audience could possibly have the same religious passingance in her before she got to the new year. In the jewish tradition, the day 6 00 ort 6 00 7 00, 7 00 and i believe she passed sometime after the afternoon. Thats pretty much what is going to dwell on my mind and im going to talk to somebody about is there any religious significance in that. Host lets talk to louise, who is con from canton, ohio. Caller who is calling from canton, ohio. Caller she was a brilliant lady. We need to follow in her footsteps. I pray for her and her family and everybody else that mourns for her. Thank you so much. Of justiceis video ginsburg speaking at Stanford University in 2017 on what she saw as the future of the Womens Movement. Ginsburg for the constitution of the court, we aim to ensure that when we leave the court, the third branch of government, will be in good as good shape as when we joined it. Great changese of i have seen in womens occupations, yet one must acknowledge the still bleak part of the picture. Most people in poverty in the United States in the world over are women and children. Womens earnings here trail the comparable men with education and experience our workplaces do not adequately accommodate the demands of childbearing and child hearing child rearing, and we have yet to devise effective ways to ward off Sexual Harassment at work and Domestic Violence in our homes. I am optimistic that the Movement Toward enlisting the we,nts of all who compose the people, will continue. As expressed by my great colleague, the first woman to serve on the u. S. Supreme court, Justice Sandra day oconnor, for both men and women, the first step in getting power is to become visible to others, and then to put on an impressive show. As women achieve power, the barriers will fall, as society sees what women can do, as women see what women can do. There will be more women out there doing things and we will all be better off for it. Expectation, i can only say amen. I want to remind our viewers that you can go to cspans website to find more video of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg and more events that cspan has recorded and been at that Justice Ginsburg spoke at. You can always go to cspans website to find more video of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Lets go back to the phone lines. Lets talk to avis who is calling from champlain, illinois. Good morning. Caller i appreciate the work you do, and i wanted to say a couple of things. First of all, as the person who fought for womens rights way back in the 1950s and for civil rights, this is a very great loss for not only me personally, but as the country. I should also add that the accolades that she has been getting she is well deserving of, but in memory of her, i would encourage everyone to listen to her very last words. She worked her whole life and i think we owe it to people we respect. Wishst fervent that an injustice will not be president l the new has been elected. I hope we will follow that last wish. Host lets talk to frank, who is con from washington, d. C. Good morning. Caller i would like to say that people talk about abortion. They are already born. Bunch of screws and shake them in a bag and ke out a relaxed watch rolex watch. Someone designed us we are not in this universe alone. Who are not born a chance. Thank you very much. Host lets talk to tom calling from jacksonville. Good morning. Caller good morning. Ofbehalf of the millions crucified children, i would like to say god bless donald trump. Calling talk to from chicago. Thatr i would like to say nominated byd be donald for replacing ms. Ginsberg. It would be nice to have them there. Thank you. We move forward in this process, Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell went on fox newss special report to talk about whether he would hold a before thert vacancy november election and about why and his decision would he decide to block judge Merrick Garland in a similar situation when president obama was in office. Here is what he had to say. If the Supreme Court see or to open up before the november election, would you hold that seat open like you did for merit garland to let Voters Decide which president ial candidate errickgarland marek garland . You have to go back to the on the supremeat court was elected by a Different Party than the president. In 2016. The situation that would not be the situation in 2020. Vacancy,aware of any but if you are asking me hypothetical about if this Republican Senate would confirm a member of the Supreme Court for a vacancy created this year, we would fill it. And wouldnt you hear howe ls . In that situation, we would confirm. Host despite what Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell said, there are some republicans who are saying that they may not a new supremem Court Justice before election day. Here is a story that ran in new york magazine. It says, leader Lisa Murkowski said filling a Supreme Court vacancy before 2021 would be a double standard and she would not support it. Grassley,gue, chuck meanwhile, told nbc news that he also felt filling a vacancy would violate the parties 2016 standards and that he couldnt move forward with it were he still the chairman of the jenna senate Judiciary Committee. Republicans promises to stand against partisan excess are an unreliable currency. They need because he, grassley, and one more vote and still confirm a confirmation as Vice President michael pence would break any 5050 tide. Tie. Lets look at some of the tweets from the u. S. Senate about the passing of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. It is time to list. She served our nation with distinction for 27 years on the Supreme Court, 23 of those with her polar opposite, estes glia. She said we could disagree on fundamental issues but remain civil. Here is a tweet from sheldon whitehouse. For one night, lets focus on the career of this remarkable woman, her courage, grace, tenacity, dignity. Ruth Bader Ginsburg represents the best in our country. Here is a tweet from john cornyn. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has been a tightening of the Supreme Court for more than a quarter of a century. Despite our ideological differences, i have always remained a deep respect for Justice Ginsburg. Her unwavering commitment to Public Service has inspired a generation of young americans, particularly women, to reach for their dreams. We send our condolences to her children. Children and the entire ginsberg family. It is a treat tweet from senator coombs. With all the challenges, we should come together rather than having a rushed confirmation process to further divide us. Senator tedfrom cruz. We are one vote away from losing our fundamental constitutional liberties. I believe President Donald Trump should nominate a successor next week and the senate should take up and confirm that successor before election day. Lets go back to the phone lines and see what you think about the life and legacy of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Lets go to cheryl, calling from illinois. Say that just want to i was deeply saddened by the ginsburg. Ruth bader student and actually im just finding out so much that was done and she has been a part of in the Supreme Court. That it to say want to remind people of how the withas nothing to do christian values or any type of religious meaning. So that shouldnt affect, and thats exactly what ruth bader choices anded her thoughts on when she was interpreting the law. Out prayers and to her. Host lets go to st. Louis, missouri. Caller good morning. Gothough i caller ahead. Caller i would like to say that anyone who had anything to say about her bad, you need to do research. She was an amazing woman. First, and iomen love it. She is an inspiration to me, and i am a male. She made it so many things possible, and i feel like people are going off of she done this or she didnt believe him trunk got in office. She is stayed because she felt that she was still needed at that moment in time here today, regardless of the facts. She will never be forgotten. I would like to say for the people were talking about abortions, i would like to say that there are some women that dont have a choice in life, you know, to be able to have the courage to do those things, and she made it possible. Guys are bashing because we have so many reports of babies being killed. But think about it, most of those are rape and sexually abused or people in relationships, and you have to realize that sometimes it is just not that person. It is not saying a baby would ruin your life, but what it is saying is that at this moment in time you are not financially able or capable, because some of our system in certain parts of the area are not up to date and we are not able to do as much. That myld like to say family is praying for her family and we love her. Up and, when she wakes hears about this, im pretty sure she is going to be a little upset. It needs to be known today. Host lets go to christine, who is calling from rockford, illinois. Good morning. Caller hello . Host goahead. You are on the air. Caller i want to express prayers to her families and i want to echo dad the sadness and loss. She had hard work and dedication for civil rights, for marginalized people, and for women and for civil rights all over the country. I just think she was a wonderful woman. It is just one of the things that shows that we are losing people of a generation that upheld a great deal of our strength and ethics and perseverance. I would just hope that you give a lot of consideration to those last wishes that she did have that we could hold off and forace her and take time the nation to heal a little bit from all of the uprising and take some consideration to maybe give a lot of thought to someoneg her spot with of her likeness and stature. I think it is necessary and i and womenwe it to her of her same liking to replace her, because we could use a lot of that type of strength and that type of a woman that we dont want to lose the strength of that generation. I see we are in need of that very much. I think that we could use a lot thate ethics from host this is steve from texas. Caller this is an incredible loss, however no one person is bigger than america. Established in our constitution and therefore in order to do and managing but is going on in america, we need all of the pieces in place and replace her. I am a retired soldier. We replace leaders in we move on. That is what we do. Callers have rough sburgs referenced ginb last statement. Here is a paragraph that talks about what one of the last statements of the justice was and i want to read that paragraph to you. Just days before her death, as her strength waned, ginsberg dictated the statement to her granddaughter, quote, my first fervent wish is that i will not be replaced until a new president is installed. That is a story from npr. Back, actually before we go back to the phones, lets see what Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg said during 2017 about the importance of civility and public life. Heres what she said. You talked about you and Justice Scalia, which is about the importance that you give about congeniality, the ways about which you and your colleagues are congenial. How can we expand that to a broader Public Discourse . When i wassburg it was very whenrent than it is today, we think back to 1993, when president clinton nominated me with the good job i hold, i had been general counsel to the aclu for several years. 963 in mys 90 63 favor. My biggest supporter was not senator biden, although he was certainly in my favor, but it was orrin hatch. I think today he would not touch me with a 10 foot pole. [laughter] we are still friends, but if it came to a vote on me i do not think he would be the supporter that he was in 19 93. It was similar with Stephen Breyer when he was nominated the next year, well into the 90s vote in his favor. It has not been that way for the most recent members of the court. It has been on both sides of the aisle. Way i could was a put it back when people were and theul of each other congress was working for the good of the country and not just along the party lines. Someday there will be great people, great representatives who will say enough of this , lets be the kind of legislature the United States should have. I hope that they will come while i am still alive. [applause] we are getting reactions from around the world on the passing of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. I went to bring some of the comments that are coming from our former president about her. We will start with a statement from the jimmy carter library. We are deeply saddened to hear of the passing of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. President carter named her to the court for the district of columbia circuit in 1980. Our thoughts are with her family. President bill clinton put out the statement. We have lost one of the most extraordinary justices ever to serve on the Supreme Court. Opinionsr ginsburgs met moved us closer to a more Perfect Union and she reminded us that we walk away from our ourtitutions problems at peril. Released this statement, laura and i join our fellow americans in morning this loss. She did keep that she dedicated many of her years to the pursuit of justice which she has inspired more than one generation of women and girls. She loved our country and the law. Laura and i are fortunate to have known this smart trailblazer and we send our condolences to the family. And this statement comes from former president barack obama. The justice fought to the end for her cancer with unwavering faith in our democracy and the ideals. That is how we remember her. But she also left instructions for how she wants her legacy to be honored. So lets go back to the phone lines. Lets talk to you for the final half hour of the show about what you think about Ruth Bader Ginsburg, her life and legacy. Stan from new york. Caller i did not agree with everything she said but she was a woman who was totally andcated to this country making this world a better place to live. She was brilliant, exquisite, innovative and cared. She had cancer, and she was working on the Supreme Court at the same time. You know how dedicated she was. My prayers are for her and her family, but more importantly, for the young people that should take the time to read her biography and learn from her because we have very few people that we can truly learn from. For the young people, this is a sorrowful event because she had so much to offer. I think the important thing is to learn from her life so we can create a better world. Thank you. Host this is connie from jacksonville, florida. Like to express sympathy to the family of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. She was very astute enough to know that a white man and enersys city our society are the only people that were not oppressed because they were the oppressors of the people that have been oppressed. That is why she fought so hard for women and minorities. Thank you. Mary froms talk to washington. Good morning. Say, toi would like to remind us all that we have three separate branches of government. She represented the judicial branch, and i was sad to see her make her remarks about taking away the other branches, their ability to give us a new representative on the Supreme Court and have our former and remindo come out everybody that this is what our this woman wanted. And what the other branch wants to do, what they are supposed to do, it would be held against them. It is sad to see this because she was of a great generation, and part of the reason moshe had family values. ,hey taught their children well loved them and nurtured them. They did not kill their babies. We need to get our family back. And we need to get term limits. From this is gerald virginia. Good morning. Caller first of all i would like to say thank you for cspan , whatever the issue is you always cover it equally. Is, we lost a library. My mom used to say when an older person dies, you lose a library. A plea to have empathy. That is one thing america has always been about, despite how we look at it, despite the battle, we have to come back to empathy. We lost a library today. Thate never seen a person can bring generations together. She was a student of the law, and i respected that. There is a reason why we have so whatever decisions they have, they have to come together. Go back to empathy. Have empathy for the library we just lost, the knowledge she carried. She was a good person. I was upset with other people america has to get back to that. This opponent from the other side who was a stud in student of the law has passed away. Empathyke today to have for the judge who passed away. , cspan, for all that you do. We need a balance. Thatast you provide despite what anybody says, you still spend time where you did newscast, what the so when iview was, find that i like to acknowledge that. Ginsburg was not only for her nickname, she was also known for her robes that she wore when she served as a justice. In two thousand nine, she invited cspan into her Supreme Court office to show him some of her famous ropes and talk a little bit about why she wore what she wore. Here is that video. [video clip] us how this works on court today. The ropes arerg , and anthis Room Attendant will help us put on our robe. In this closet i brought the one. Hat i use most often in court this robe is from england. Ar is from cape town, south africa. Is made for aobe place fore it has a the shirt to show and the tie. Sandra day oconnor and i thought it would be appropriate if we included it as part of our , something typical of a woman. I have many collars. What is the symbol and was them symbolism of this being from africa . Justice ginsburg there is no symbolism. I just liked it. I just saw this in cape town. What is the importance of a robe for judge . Justice ginsburg i think it is all in theof we are ,usiness of impartial judging and in the United States i think the pattern was set by john dresses who said that in the United States should not robes. Yal robes, not red they should wear plain fat plain black. Cspan. Organ go to and go to our Supreme Court page to learn more about the Supreme Court and to watch the cspan series and videos that will explain to you some of the practices. You can listen to videos and watch videos of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and her colleagues on the Supreme Court. Cspan. Org. That at y, froma rt alabama. Caller good morning. Agree with the i military man who called i believe from california, and that is our business should go on. If you die, somebody will be in your place monday. If i die at my job, they will have another secretary monday. I do not believe we should interrupt government, however i agree that she was a trailblazer ofut i really am not a fan an activist on the court. You and me, and i am poor, i believe for you and me and everybody, the supreme absolutelyo be nonactivist. I guess you know by now i am a traditional constitutionalist. Thank you. Lets talk to pat from florida. Could morning. Caller good morning. Theer i am struck by caller prior who spoke about empathy. With respect to abortion, im sure the people who hold their views are sincere , but i cannot believe i have difficulty excepting accepting those same people are not empathetic towards the women who have to make a choice because certainly it means there is a problem, whether financially or psychologically. They may be victims of abuse, or health reasons. It seems to me the perspective that just sheds that that just says abortion should be outlawed is not addressing the problem that those women may be facing. Ironics to me more than and a contradiction to the religious views that the same party that is predominantly against abortion is also against andth care for those Women Education for their children, Housing Support that may be needed to help alleviate the range of problems that might need a woman to consider abortion. It seems to me that abortion is being used to divide and take advantage of the deeply held religious views of some that frankly, by the same party to advance greater wealth elite, then for the 1 , the tax breaks that have implications for education, health care and the social problems and personal problems that may lead a woman to consider abortion. Several have heard viewers mentioned this morning the friendship between Justice Ginsburg and Justice Scalia who served together on two different courts, not only the Supreme Court but also the d. C. Circuit court of appeals. Scalia has put out these tweets that talk about that friendship, and i want to bring a couple of those to you now. I am very said to fear about the nts goodf my pare friend. It may hurt memory be a blessing. I would like to share a couple of passages to convey what she meant. This is from a roast he delivered for her 10th anniversary on the d. C. Circuit court of the. They had been colleagues on that court until he went to the Supreme Court. She had not joined him yet. He had missed her. I will conclude by a three a few comments. I have missed ruth very much. She was the best of colleagues. I wish her 100 years. Story went on, this is a that a judge shared about an encounter when he brought his friend, ruth, roses for her birthday, quote, some things in life are more important than votes. And during one of my last visits, i saw evidence of the relationship. Tablented to roses on his and noted that he needed to take them down to ruth for her birthday. I said, i doubt if i had given a total of 20 four roses to my wife in my years of marriage. Unwilling to give him the last word, i pushed back, but good have all of these roses done for you . Significance. Of are things, he answered, more important than boats. I let him have the last word. You about calls from the life and legacy of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. This is rick from new york. Good morning. Caller hi. Ism happy that cspan dedicating this time to Justice Ginsburg. She was a light for this country. It is a set day. It will be sad for a while. I wanted to mention one thing that some of your callers have talked about in regards to abortion. Justice ginsburg was not for abortion. No one is. Note democrat is for abortion. People are sometimes forced into it. If they are, they need to have it safe and medically taken care of. There is no one that is for that. She was for the righteousness in the world, and she stuck for it. I am very nervous about what is going to happen with Mitch Mcconnell and trump right now since he has the department of justice and the senate. We are almost left just with the military to help us Going Forward if he takes over the Supreme Court. I will end with that and pray. Host this is a tweet that comes from the first lady about the passing of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. She writes, this passing is an immense loss. Her tenacity and strength were matched by her intellect and compassion. Her spirit will live on in all that she has inspired. My prayers are with her family and all who loved her. We will see if we can get a couple more calls in. This is joe from new jersey. Good morning. Caller good morning. God for cspan. If ruth was not a woman i dont think women would have gotten the representation they deserve. I think it is time to change the rules and put an equal amount of men and women on the superior court. Number two, i think at the lower courts you have to take money out of the situation because rich people and poor people are getting different representation as far as the law is concerned. Letting me put my view in. Host this is louise from oregon. Good morning. Caller i would just like to say thank you for taking my call. I want to express some of the ginsburgs family and friends. I would like to say women, if you are worried about roe v. Wade, just keep your legs crossed. If you believe in god, you best believe in the devil, who else would be doing these things to our nation and to these children that are still sitting on the southern border. Where are the preachers of america protecting these children . Host this is tony from new mexico. Caller good morning. I would like to share my empathy for the family of ruth bader. Insburg we are celebrating one year from passing. Hopefully he is in a better place. I would like to have my empathy for all of the thousands of people who have died this year legacy,nd as far as her it is tarnished only by her footnote. This was the most antisemitic doctoring that was ever written on the face of this place this planet. If you do not understand this, take the advice of winston churchill. We need to have a separation of church and state, of church and our Supreme Court and church and our government. From ohio. Is david caller thank you for taking my call. Out tomy sympathy goes the family for the passing of this brilliant woman, a very strong woman. A wonderful example for my daughter. They have been a few callers that are saying the Constitutional Rights of all three branches dictate we should replace her right away. When were these people president sed away and obama still had 10 months left on his term and he was denied his constitutional right to appoint a justice. Mitch mcconnell held it up for 10 months. This is the double standard hypocrisy now that it is a republican president. Now they went to jam it through. I just wanted to point that out. Also, conservative justices tend to be more anticonsumer, antienvironmental and more pro monied interest. So that is why i think we need a progressive justice on the Supreme Court. Adie from is washington d. C. I just wanted to comment not call ifshould they do not have anything good to say. That was a great lady. Thank you. Host as we close the show, we want to bring you a picture of the people showing up to the Supreme Court this morning in ginsburg,uth bader who died friday at age 87. I would like to say thank you for all of our guests this morning. Continue to stay safe out there, join us again tomorrow morning at 7 00 a. M. Or another washington journal. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2020] President Trump will be campaigning in fayetteville, North Carolina this afternoon and you can watch that live beginning at 6 00 p. M. Eastern here on cspan and also online at cspan. Org, and on the cspan radio app. Also coming up today, more coverage and reaction to the death of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg who died yesterday at the age of 87 after serving 27 years on the high court. Once again, we will spend todays show talking about the life and legacy of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Before we get into the conversation, we went to bring you video of Justice Ginsburg speaking at Stanford University in 2017. Here is what she said. [video clip]