Reform. Polls open at new york at 6 00 a. M. Tuesday. Good evening. Im the political anchor here at new york 1 news. We are less than one week away from the New York Primary for congress and state senate and assembly. To the divisions will be grappling with major. Ublic Health Crisis weeks, we have been holding you some of the most primary debates. Tonight, we bring you a debate for new yorks 10th congressional district. Lets take a look it stretches across manhattan and brooklyn and includes much of the westside including sunset park. The seat is currently occupied by jerry nadler, who has represented the district since 1992. We have invited several of the candidates who are challenging him to this debate we are joined by a former Cuomo Administration official, lindsay boylan, and a former Andrew Yang Campaign manager, jonathan herzog. The rules have been agreed to by all the candidates. They will take a minute to respond to my questions and we will give them 30 second rebuttals. You can see the full debate on ny one at any time and we are taping this on tuesday, june 16. Were are going to start with some short opening statements. The order was determined by a random drawing. Jonathan herzog will go first. Good evening. Jonathan good evening and thank you. My name is jonathan herzog. On the son of immigrants, born and raised on the westside in new yorks 10th district. Im a civil rights organizer and advocate with a decade an experience endorsed by andrew yang. Heres the bad news liberal democracy is being torn to shreds. Where in the middle of crises on top of crises. Congress has been on recess. Heres the good news. For the first time in a generation, we have a choice. Our vision begins with a universal basic income, a data bill of rights, publicly financed elections, and quadratic voting. Together, we will end an era of stagnation and ponzi scheme inequality and usher in an era for the common good. Im asking for your vote to build a new way forward. Thank you. Errol next is lindsay boylan. Im a former Government Official and a mom to two young daughters. Im running for congress because we cannot take the same complacency we have had in congress for the last 30 years. We need a seachange across this country. We are dealing with a public Health Crisis, and economic crisis and protest that will shape our future and our leaders are totally unprepared and out of touch. Luckily for our community, i have been preparing for just this kind of moment. I led the states job creation. I help past paid family leave, i led recovery work to puerto rico, after the hurricane. Our congressman has been in office for almost 30 years, since i was in the second grade. And he has not addressed any of these issues. Instead, he writes strongly worded letters and gives empty talk. This is not the time for any of that. This is the time for people with guts and i will keep showing i have it and keep showing how much i love our community and i hope you will vote for me. Errol thank you. Next is mr. Nadler. Rep. Nadler thank you for hosting this debate. Its good to be here. This is a time of great crisis for our country. Over 100,000 people have died in the pandemic so far and 40 Million People have lost their jobs. George floyd was murdered in the latest episode of Police Brutality, showing systemic racism that we continue to suffer from. And we have a president in trump who is totally unfit to be president and is a totally immoral person. But we have to Work Together because defeating trump is not enough. We have to work to ensure social justice, to make sure black lives matter, to restore peoples jobs and health care, to deal with our Climate Crisis that threatens all of us, and that is why i have been leading the fight for all of these things for many years. I hope my constituents will enable me to continue leading these fights for another two years. Thank you. Errol candidates, our first topic tonight is criminal Justice Reform, policing reform. We are in a time of great upheaval, there are people marching in the streets tonight and every night. A twopart question for each of you. What public actions have you taken on these issues over the last few weeks and, if elected or reelected, what would be your top priority when it comes to criminal Justice Reform . There are a lot of ideas out there ranging from body cameras and transparency to defunding the nypd stop i would like to nypd. I would like to hear what your top priority would be. Its going the same order. We will start with you, mr. Herzog. Jonathan we have to dismantle systemic racism and provide real structural reform. There is no more time for lip service and no more time for cheap talk. We need a federal standard for use of force as necessary only as a last resort. We have to mandate deescalation, we have to demilitarized our police force, enforce data collection, van no ban no knock warrants, have a public database, and and qualified immunity. None of this is enough. If you look at the george floyd murder, this was downstream of a counterfeit 20 bill. We need to heed the wisdom of Martin Luther king jr. , who in his last year, fought for a guaranteed minimum income for all americans. The civil rights of this era is fighting for a guaranteed minimum income for all. Errol next, ms. Boylan. Lindsey i have showed up at protests pretty much every day. Im just one in the crowd because i think thats what i should be. I have called for the mayors resignation because he has not led in this moment. I think its an absolute aberration, his lack of leadership, his lack of push against the pda, against the nypd, i have called for defunding nypd. I do not think the justice act is nearly enough and, in fact, why would we give more money to the department of justice that we are saying doesnt know how to use the money when it should be directed elsewhere . I think our federal government in addition to our local government is completely out of whack on this and it is really unfortunate that the congressman is leading this effort and pretending in fact, the last thing he did was support a Blue Lives Matter bill and its very transparent what hes doing. Errol before i give mr. Nadler a chance to respond, you said for the mayor to resign. That would then lead to the public advocate becoming the mayor. Do you think he would be better at handling the Current Situation . Lindsey there is something about de blasio that i think is incapable of handling the situation. We have someone in my view who is incapable at even responding in a humane way to deescalate crises and pour gas on the flames. He clearly has no authority in this situation in my view. Secondly, act in january, i called for nypds commissioner and leadership to be forced to live in the city. Theres no reason our Police Officers should live somewhere else. Its the opposite of committee policing. Ive been on this for quite some time. Im very supportive of defunding, mainly because redirecting these funds to Mental Health support and i have called for the resignation of the mayor who failed us on so many levels. At the very basic level in failing to deescalate the situation and making new yorkers feel that not only have they not been heard, but the Police Department is absolutely able to run amok in every way. Errol mr. Nadler . Rep. Nadler i have been very involved in the black lives Matter Movement and dealing with systemic racism ever since [indiscernible] and eric garner. One of the chief authors of the justice act which would banned chokeholds and have a National Police registry. This would end qualified immunity. This would refund it would the black lives matter people are asking us to do. Im going to be leading the fight in the next few weeks against the republicans who dont want to do most of what needs to be done to end this plague of Police Brutality and systemic racism. Jonathan i want to add to this that none of this is enough. The average net worth of a black household is 1 10 of a white household. Black mothers are three times more likely to die in childbirth. People of color will be the majority by 2043 but the median net worth of a lack family is expected to be zero by 2053. This is before the pandemic, before covid, we are now nearly half of all black households will not be able to make rent. When america catches a cold, black people catch the flu. In 2020, when america catches covid, black people are nearly 2. 5 times more likely to die than white folks and this is part of a legacy of structural racism, redlining, and of a disparate impact of chronic illnesses. This cannot be tackled solely through slogans and party lines. We need real, structural, systemic reform at all parts of health care, the economy, and criminal justice. Errol close the loop finish the thought. If you have a universal basic income on its way to being closed, would there be a need to deal with criminal Justice Reform and what would that look like if you were in congress . Jonathan we need to reform and reimagine the police. I agree with Stacey Abrams who says the notion of defunding is a false choice. If you look at the new york Police Department, its 92 funded by the city of new york. This is not primarily a matter of congressional funding. What happens when you defund Public Services is they end up being privatized. We have to unbundle and demilitarize, and unarm. No Police Contact with civilians is in the contract was that we cannot simply deal with criminal justice, deal with criminal Police Reform by demilitarizing our police. I am supportive of temporary ubi as a starting point but we fundamental issues and every policy, whether it be housing or education has advantaged white people. I started my career in urban planning. All that moved into the middle class was a bunch of white people. I think perhaps where jonathan was trying to go was that we cannot simply deal with criminal justice were criminal Police Reform. We have to rethink how we provide housing, how hud works, how the department of education works. We have to desegregate our schools. That is why i am one of the people who is really excited by the true reconciliation commission. Not because we do not have to have actionable results, but because it goes beyond policing, beyond criminal Justice Reform. If we want to use this moment to change the destiny of this country, and that is absolutely what we have to do. What jonathan was trying to get at was we need to focus on housing issues, how we provide support to americans. How we focus on education. How we provide support to americans in every moment in life. When barbara lee proposed that, i am very supportive. Errol i wanted to get the other candidates to weigh in on whether or not you think mayor de blasio should step down and how do you rate his handling of the crisis over the last few weeks . Mr. Nadler. Rep. Nadler i think he has handled it very poorly. I think it is up to the electors, with respect to the mayor. Let me say that the leadership we need i have been supplying and trying to deal with problems of housing, the environment, and the problems of the Green New Deal for years. I have been doing this successfully. Ive gotten millions of dollars for the housing authority. I have passed amendments on the floor of the house to increase funding for housing for people with aids, for Senior Citizen housing. It is easy to talk about these things, but most progressive leaders are supporting me because they know that i have been the progressive leader in getting these things done. That is why leaders like Elizabeth Warren and alexandria ocasiocortez and the New York Times are supporting my candidacy for reelection. Errol should the mayor resign, mr. Herzog . Mr. Herzog that is up to the mayor. He has not handled this well. I want to respond to ms. Boylans point. And lets look to be civil rights leaders. Nelson mandela said no one is born hating another person because of the color of their skin. People must learn to hate, and if they must learn to hate they can be taught to love. Martin luther king said the evils of racism, economic exploitation, and militarism are intrinsically tied. If we are to unravel in combat one, we must unravel and combat all. We must restructure from the bottom on up. Slogans will not suffice. Lipservice will not suffice. We need true substantive, systemic change. Errol stay with us. It is time for a short break. Morell be right back with in just a minute. Errol welcome back to this debate forprimary this 10th congressional district. I want to talk about the coronavirus pandemic. And the response to it. As new york begins to reopen, there is a major push to reopen as quickly as possible. I want to get your views on whether or not we are doing it too fast, fast enough, what would be your priorities in congress as far as making sure it is done in a way that properly balances Public Health needs and economic needs. Lets start with you, mr. Nadler. Rep. Nadler we have to be guided by the Public Health authorities and how fast we open up and what we do. In congress, i am guided by the Health Authorities. Some of the most important things we have to do in congress is what i am leading the fight on. We have to enable people to stay at home if that is what the Health Authorities indicate to do. We have to get them funds for the money they are not getting because they cannot go to their jobs. I have supported, and we have provided in the cares act, lots of money for people to pay rent with, money for small homeowners to pay mortgages with. We have to extend that. We passed the heroes act a couple weeks ago. We have to persuade the republicans in the senate to pass it too, but it would extend these things. It would mean nobody would have to worry about getting evicted or about paying their mortgages. These are the kinds of economic supports we have to give to make sure we can follow the guidelines of Public Health authorities and not follow the president or the republicans or some others who are saying open up the economy because that will threaten everyones health. We have to open up the economy as indicated when we can by the virus. But to enable us to do that, we have to have the economic support, which i have been leading the fight to get and which we can get through the senate. Errol ms. Boylan. Ms. Boylan the cares act was an abomination. 1200 for people earning up to 75,000 does not do jack blank for most new yorkers. If you actually have to worry about paychecktopaycheck in new york, you know that 100 of unemployment or emergency unemployment for most people to get, especially if you insecure. What mr. Nadler just mentioned actually does not help people at all. People are desperate to get help and they are not getting it. The best way we could have help people was to give them nonmeans tested checks, like i proposed my stimulus plan, for 2000 per month plus 1200 per plus 500 per dependent. That is just on a personal level that could have helped. The cares act failed on that front. On Small Business support, it also failed utterly. Small business loans, people like shake shack, all these Big Companies have been able to access and get to the front of line for support. The smaller firms that do not have the flexibility to wait and bring their people back and try to reopen all in this short period of time are left hanging. That is what i am talking about when i talk about my experience overseeing all Economic Development for the state of new york. I do not think we have seen a bit about much recovery will. Will be necessary, and it is really sad most of our leaders do not even get the pain. If you see what he did with the heroes act, the heroes act has not even been enacted. This is a great example of when congressman nadler talks about things he has done but has not actually done. Rep. Nadler the cares act gives people more than 100 replacement for their jobs. It gives people more than 100 of what they are earning in many cases. The heroes act has not been successful yet because of the republicans in the senate. You go to washington as a member of congress, you are not the only person. You do not go there to get your name on buildings, you go to get things done. We have gotten things done, but of course we have a president who is terrible and Republican Senate that is terrible. We are fighting to get some of these things through the senate. We passed them in the house. The heroes act would replace everyones income, make sure nobody got evicted ms. Boylan no it doesnt. Rep. Nadler unfortunately, until the election this year, we have to deal with the Republican Senate. Mr. Herzog this is fundamental because this is the congressmans biggest failure. This is a multitrillion dollar bailout. The largest for multinational firms, the largest since the 2008 financial crisis. Nearly 120,000 americans are dead, doubled the number that died in vietnam. One in five are new yorkers. More than 40 million are unemployed. If new york had shut down 10 days sooner, the former cdc director said that 80 of all deaths could have been avoided. Congressman nadler has been on recess. When he came back, he passed a bailout with crumbs for regular people. He has not funded testing, contact tracing, new york got 12,000 per virus case. We have not listened to the scientists and Public Health experts. In fact, congressman nadler has played pandemic politics. This entire time. If you look at the first case in new york, the first covid case, it came online as Ballot Access for the primary began. What did nadler in the entire new York Democratic party do . They tried to cancel the primary. This is unacceptable. These are politicians denying basic science and intuition, telling workers until midmarch to ride the subway, all is well. This is an utter failure. Rep. Nadler i dont know where to start. We passed legislation to do everything mr. Herzog is talking about. Mr. Herzog simply false. You have been on resource recess. Rep. Nadler the republicans have not passed it. One congressman is one congressman. I am not the dictator. I cannot dictate policy. I can lead. I have led. We have done what we should do. We have to get the republicans to pass it in the senate. As i said before, the legislation we did pass replaces 100 of peoples income. The problem is it doesnt for a short time and we have to extend that through the heroes act, which we are doing if the republicans will pass it. Ms. Boylan when the congressman said that all peoples needs were taken care of, he is clearly not talking to his community because of many cases the bottleneck to get access to unemployment has been six weeks, eight weeks, enough to give people heart attacks, Mental Health crises because they have not been getting the help they need. It is so apparent that he has no idea what his community is going through. Rep. Nadler we passed this legislation. The Trump Administration is not administering it ms. Boylan you just said the legislation was great. Errol did you have anything else, mr. Nadler . Rep. Nadler we cannot be held responsible for the Trump Administration not administering it. Errol is time for the crossexamination. Each candidate gets a chance to ask one question of one rival. We will start with mr. Herzog. Mr. Herzog mr. Nadler, we have entered a new Great Depression under your watch. 40 million unemployed. More than 40 are permanently lost jobs. Hate crimes in new york doubled last year. Will you pledge to support unconditional, nonmeans tested universal basic income for all americans at 2000 a month for adults during the pandemic and 1000 per child during the pandemic in perpetuity to preserve liberal democracy as we know it . Rep. Nadler the legislation we are supporting has given a guaranteed annual income. [crosstalk] im supporting legislation that would go much further ms. Boylan not true. Ok. I would like to fact check congressman nadlers statement because i do not think it is true errol under the rules you have agreed to, we are not checking any sources, we are not going online. Ms. Boylan ok. Congressman nadler, you said you supply the leadership and you have talked about all of these women you have assembled as tools to support you. You also said you cannot be held responsible for what the president does and why we have not seen any change. So which is it . Are you responsible and do you have power or do you have no power and you are not responsible . Please answer. Rep. Nadler i am responsible for doing everything that a congressman can do. This country is not a dictatorship of one congressman. We can do certain things. We have to fight the republicans in the senate. We have to fight the president. I have accomplished a lot. We have not succeeded in getting a lot done because the president is a fool and he is not the president i want. The senate is not the senate i want. Errol mr. Nadler, you have a chance to ask a question of one of your opponents. Rep. Nadler one of the problems we have is the Climate Crisis. Too much Carbon Dioxide in the air, too much asthma in new york and elsewhere. One of the major sources of pollution and of Climate Change is emitted by trucks. I have been leading the fight for years to replace these trucks in new york with rail freight, which is much more environmentally friendly, less polluting, much more part of the Green New Deal. You have opposed this change. Why are you opposed to improving the environment by getting rid of truck freight . Ms. Boylan i am not opposed to rail freight. I am opposed to your idea of the cross harbor tunnel, which will never happen. It is a ridiculous idea. The fact that you keep going on it is asinine. At the same time, since we are talking about rail freight, i would love to talk about how all of your corporate pac money from Railroad Freight companies are the biggest source of cold coal movers in the country. So actually, you are taking coal money. Do you want to answer to that . Errol ok. That is the end of our crossexamination. We are going to take a short break here. We will be right back with more of this debate in just a minute. Stay with us. Errol welcome back to our democratic primary debate. It is time for our lightning round. Each candidate will be asked to question and they will respond with a brief response. Usually yes or no. Mr. Herzog, before they started dropping out, who did you support in the democratic primary for president . Mr. Herzog andrew yang. Ms. Boylan bernie sanders. Rep. Nadler Elizabeth Warren. Errol mr. Nadler, will you support nancy pelosi if she was wants to continue as speaker of the house . Ms. Boylan no. Mr. Herzog it depends. Errol should the nypd continue to provide security in Public Schools . Mr. Herzog it should be unarmed and demilitarized. Ms. Boylan no. Rep. Nadler no. We have to take functions away from the police and give them to proper authorities like Mental Health agencies. Errol mr. Nadler, should religious and private schools be monitored to ensure they are following state standards . Rep. Nadler yes. Ms. Boylan i think the way it has been done has been from on high and has maligned communities and it is unfair and unjust. I would say not the way it has been done. Mr. Herzog generally speaking, yes. Errol mr. Herzog, should the nypd continue to handle Parking Enforcement . Mr. Herzog no. Ms. Boylan no. Rep. Nadler no. Errol should taxes be raised on households making more than 500,000 a year . Rep. Nadler yes, it is one of the most important things we have to do. Ms. Boylan absolutely and also a wealth tax. Mr. Herzog yes, but this is not enough. We need to shift to a value tax and broadbased taxation. To cover the revenue holds we have. Errol mr. Herzog, should mailin voting be allowed for all voters in new york in every election . Mr. Herzog yes. Ms. Boylan yes. Rep. Nadler yes. Errol should a conviction on a charge of deliberately violating social distancing rules be punishable by time in jail . Rep. Nadler it should be punishable, but we should not be putting people in jail now. That increases the rate of transmission of the virus. Ms. Boylan it should not be putting people in jail. Ridiculous. Mr. Herzog we should decarcerate. Errol should social Media Companies be allowed to censor content on their platform . Mr. Herzog generally no. We need a data bill of rights. Ms. Boylan yes. Rep. Nadler yes, when the president wants to lie on social media, twitter should be able to call him to account. Errol should the Democratic Party holding in Person Convention this summer . Rep. Nadler no. Ms. Boylan no. Mr. Herzog no. Errol ok. I want to talk about Public Housing. I noticed as i looked through some of your exchanges and interviews that both you, mr. Nadler, and you, ms. Boylan, have a problem with one of the programs that the new York City Housing Authority is attempting to leverage different assets in order to preserve Public Housing as Public Housing and raise some of the badly needed funds for repairs. My question for all three of you is, if money is not forthcoming from the federal government and you do not like the program, what would be your path to getting the badly needed funds to get Public Housing into good working order and ensure its sustainability and viability into the future . Mr. Herzog. I do not want to put you in the same box as your colleagues. If you do like rad, tell us about that. Mr. Herzog i would like to quote you. You said, if it has not worked for 30 years, it might not get us there. That is the reality on the slogans that have been passed around on funding Affordable Housing. We need to transform the way we generate revenue. Creative financing mechanisms like a common ownership selfassessment tax, which is like a wealth tax that works, involves continuous public options. It is how facebook and google sell add spaces. We have to have 21st Century Solutions to meet 21st century crises. The same old same old, saying the federal government will somehow fill in the hole without creating new financing mechanisms, simply will not do. Ms. Boylan i do not know where to go from that. My main issue with the rad program is it does not get us enough money and it does not guarantee housing. It is not just to fix the current housing we have, but preserve it for the next generation. My dad grew up in Public Housing. He went to college and met my mom and had me. That is how things are supposed to work. They are not working. The last thing i want to do is destroy if i cannot get federal money, then i am probably not doing a good job as your representative, which is one of my issues with congressman nadler. He cannot seem to get it done. He has millions of dollars from the housing authority. I got 150 million in my last legislative cycle. That is not anything. That does not help anyone. That gives a few people boilers. 600,000 people are living in inhumane conditions in this city and it is unacceptable. It is getting worse. I do not accept the premise of the question that there is no way around that because if there is no way around it, then that is a messed up system. If we have federallycreated Public Housing and no way to deal with that in a federal solution, then why do we have congress . Why do we have a federal government . Before he says that i dont know anything about federal government, i was interning on capitol hill at 15. I was lobbying on capitol hill 15. Rep. Nadler we cannot give up on federal funding for housing. That is why leader velasquez and i have sponsored legislation to give billions to Public Housing. It is why i have succeeded getting billions over the years for Public Housing. We have to keep fighting for this. On the state level, i agree. The state ought to have a wealth tax. For that matter, i support a wealth tax on a federal level and i have for some time. The first thing to do to get this kind of funding passed permanently on the federal level is to be the republicans in november because they will not vote for it. On the state level, we should be able to do a lot more than we have done right now. Errol candidates, let me switch to our next and final topic, which is not Public Housing but all the rest of the Affordable Housing that is an issue throughout your district. What is your best idea that you would give to people who are desperately worried about their rent . I do not just mean people advocating for cancellation of rent. If you support that, please say so, but if you have a different idea about how to get us through this immediate crisis and on to longterm affordability in the district in particular, please let us know. Mr. Herzog as we have said, we need a universal basic income right now for everyone. 40 of the 40 million jobs that have been lost are permanently gone for good. The fed said we have entered a new Great Depression. In addition to a universal basic income and data property rights, we should explore creative financing mechanisms, 21st century ideas like quadratic funding. Quadratic funding is like matching funding, which we are used to in new york city in the context of city council elections. 61. You match 621 what we are in is a crisis of public goods public parks, clean air and water, science research, diplomacy, digital media, pandemic and disease control. These public goods crises face a free rider problem, which boils down to, well, why should i contribute . The benefit is so widely distributed that you incur all the costs. In quadratic funding, it is a new mechanism where the n unit of influence would cost you n dollars and you have a public subsidy pool that would reflect the strength of your preferences. Think about the matching mechanism where we have in new york city to make our government more accountable and open to put people first. Ms. Boylan it is funny. I have a philosopher and geologist on either side. Anyway i would love to talk about Senior Housing. In the covid crisis, the absolute aberration of all aberrations in new york is how many people in Nursing Homes have died. This is the fault of state leaders, local leaders, but really the fault of our society and culture, which does not value aging and does not provide for People Living longer. I would love to focus on this one. Let me give you a demographic in my district. One in five people by 2030 will be a senior. That contributes heavily to the poverty rate in my community. No one is either thinking about that on a policy level caregivers, predominantly women, so maybe that is why nobody is wondering about seniors, is dealing with it. One of the most meaningful things we could do is create a solution for Senior Housing that includes community access, community health, Mental Health, and that is what i am most excited about in addition to Mental Health issues, which is a real passion of mine, but finding a place for seniors that is our community. We have nothing for them. Is heartbreaking. This is a society that has forgotten how to care for people in their golden years. That is the thing im most excited about. I will be launching a plan this week. Thank you. Rep. Nadler there are only two things that one can do to increase the supply of housing and to make housing affordable. For one, on the state and local level, we have to change the zoning so you can build more housing in all neighborhoods. Integrated housing, economically and racially integrated. On the federal level, it is funding. There is no escape from the necessity of the funding that we have to fight to get. Zoning can get you more Affordable Housing for Less Government money, and we should do that, but theres no substitute for government money. Anything else is just foolishness. Errol mr. Herzog and ms. Boylan, you, if elected, would be a freshman member of congress. What would be your first choice for a Committee Assignment and why . Ms. Boylan appropriations. I think that is where the action will be. We are at a moment in time where, as a gift, the opportunity to not assume anything. The committee that says lets not assume anything and lets see how we can recreate is appropriations. I will be lobbying heavily to get on that committee. Mr. Herzog it would be ways and means and appropriations. I was on the team that built andrew yangs president ial campaign back when there were five other people in the campaign. The support for ubi, the vanguard of the Civil Rights Campaign of this era, was in the low double digits. ,his type of Coalition Building now 76 of americans support a version of universal basic income in this pandemic. One in three trans people of color live in poverty. I will be proud to be the first openly lgbtq rep for this district and community, but we need real change. That begins with a universal basic income for all. Errol mr. Nadler, i know you have heard versions of this question before. My version is that after nearly three decades in office, there are those who say it is time for a change simply because it is time for a change. What do you plan to do if reelected in the next two years that you are not able to do in the previous 28 . Rep. Nadler continue fighting for social justice, black lives matter, restraint on the power of the state, restraint on the power of big corporations in particular. As chairman of the judiciary committee, we held the first series of antitrust hearings in 40 years in the last couple months. We have to continue to fight for everybodys rights, whether they are lgbtq rights we just had a big win in the Supreme Court black lives matter, economics. We have to deal with the inequality in this country. It is worse today than it has been since the 1920s and there were reasons for that. These are the things i want to work on and will work on. Errol when, among others, your opponents say youre not a real progressive, how would you answer . Rep. Nadler i have been a progressive my entire life. Every major progressive leader in the country is supporting my reelection because i have been one of the leading progressives, and on the part of my opponents, they can say whatever they want, but it is not reality. Errol i was referring to something i have seen you say, ms. Boylan. Ms. Boylan i do not consider him a real progressive. I have a tshirt that says boss lady but it does not make me Queen Elizabeth when i wear it. Because he has passed only a handful of things into law in 40 years, four or five in all, which is far fewer than other members. He has been much less productive. Two of those four are ceremonial. One his name in a building after the guy who died in office. Now what he does is throws his weight in front of other people like what he did to me and jonathan herzog. He declared us dead. Im not done. In addition he takes a ton of , corporate pac money. He mentioned antichrist antitrust. His biggest donors are google and facebook. How can you ever actually hold tech accountable when you take money directly from companies . He takes money from michelle sandberg, but im not talking about that. I am talking about taking money directly from corporations. There is no way this man can do that. And beyond that, he is supportive of moving fisa through reauthorization. At a time when protests are critically important to seeking change. He is supportive of a drone flying over me. That is not progressive. Rep. Nadler it is illegal to take money from a corporation. I have not done so. You can inspect my financial filings. I have led the fight for years ms. Boylan ok. Rep. Nadler against surveillance from the time i opposed the patriot act ms. Boylan thats a lie. Rep. Nadler since the usa freedom act ms. Boylan wow. Rep. Nadler and we passed my bill to eliminate the surveillance there remains in the patriot act. My record is clear. Errol mr. Herzog. Mr. Herzog i am asking for your vote because we do not have the time for these types of 20thcentury arguments. If you do not see yourself represented on the far left, or the status quo, join us. We do not have the time. We are in the midst of an era of stagnation and rampant inequality that has led to blood and soil politics. The last time we saw a Great Depression there was a 11 correlation. Our economic consensus has failed us. Our institutions face a crisis of legitimacy. Our social fabric is fraying. Why have up to 40 of parts of our district fled the city . Because the district is in crisis. It does not have to be this way. Go to herzog2020. Com and vote for a new way forward by june 23. Errol you got the last word. Thank you very much for a spirited and informative debate. Announcer washington journal, every day we take your calls live on the air from the news of the day and discussing policy issues that impact you. 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