Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 10182017 20171018

Of you who have received health care through the Affordable Care act exchanges. We want to know what has and has not worked for you. If you are a marketplace enrollee who lives on the eastern or central time zones, 2027488000. If you are a aca marketplace enrollee and you live in the mountain or pacific time zones, 2027488001. You can also chime in on facebook or twitter. Good wednesday morning to you. Some information about the pool of callers we are hoping to speak with in the first hour of washington journal today, there are more than about 10 million of you out in the United States. This chart breaks up the number of aca enrollees by the number of Congressional Districts in the United States. The darker districts on the map mean there are more aca enrollees in the area. There are about 5. 9 million who live in democratic districts across the country. 5. 2 million who live in democratic districts around the country. 5. 9 who live in republican districts around the country. Floridas district 47. Marketplace enrollees for democratic district range from hawaii to about 87,000 in florida. The 10 Congressional Districts with the highest number of enrollees are all in florida. Seven republican districts and 11 democratic districts. All of this information coming from the Kaiser Family breakdown of aca enrollees across the country. We want to talk with you this morning if you are an aca enrollee. We want to have this conversation with you, the day after a Bipartisan Health bill has started to gain steam on capitol hill. Here is an article about that endeavor. Leaders on the Senate Health Committee Said on tuesday that they struck a deal for a twoyear extension on subsidies for Insurance Companies to cover low income clients, subsidies that President Trump canceled last week. Towould allow states experiment with alternative standards but it would not do away with the standards to cover people with preexisting conditions. It would not eliminate socalled essential health that if its t insurance plans much must cover. President trump will be a key player if the agreement moves forward. Yesterday, earlier in the day at a press event in the rose garden, President Trump spoke favorably about the senators ef forts. Last night at the conservative Heritage Foundation where he give a speech, he said this. Pres. Trump democrats are finally responding to my call for them to take responsibility for the obamacare disaster and work with republicans to provide muchneeded relief to the american people. While i applaud the bipartisan done, i continue to ask senate to provide solutions to obamacare rather than providing bailouts to Insurance Companies. Host we will have a Health Care Roundtable coming up during our 8 00 hour. We will show you some of the statements on twitter and coming out of capitol hill. We want to hear from you if you are an aca enrollee this morning. If you live in the eastern or central time zone, 2027488000. If you are one of those aca enrollees and live in the mountain or pacific time zones, 2027488001. The phone lines are open. We will start with paul in new haven, connecticut. Caller good morning. Good morning. Host go ahead. Caller i am enrolled in the aca, and what i have found is that doctors and nurses are generally discriminatory towards in rowleys enrollees. The hospital will double bill win malpractice occurs to fix the malpractice that was committed. Than ends up costing more it did to begin with, but no one is monitoring billing process. Host what kind of health care did you have before the aca . Caller private. Host did you find that that worked better or that this current plan works better for your needs . Better. Private did work it seemed like they were happier to take on a patient who had private care. Host so the access was better for you . About theam not sure , iess, but when i was billed felt like the doctors actually listened and heard my complaints. They gave me care that i felt i needed. Host did you pay more now or back then . Caller i do not pay more now. Subsidies . About the that was paul in new haven, connecticut. Jay is next. Caller i am enrolled through the exchange, and it has been very problematic, very expensive for me. I also had to make a move within my own state and needed to reenroll. I have to change my doctors two times because of that, so it has been a very frustrating experience. Host why did you have to reenroll if you were in the same state . Caller the plan i had was not covered in the other part of the state. I lost the progress i have made on my deductible as a result. It was very upsetting. I pay 900 a month i think. I have a deductible for the family of about 11,900. I have had to go to new doctors, of course. I had to go through all that. Visiting new doctors, getting them online. When i changed plans, i had to do that again, because the doctors that were in the plans offered were not covered by the new plan. So, i have had to change doctors two times, and both times it was a very expensive plan. It has not worked out well for me at all. Host what did you have before the Affordable Care act . Caller i had insurance from my company. When i left the company to start my own, i would have preferred to have the option to commercially seek out a commercial plan, but i went through the aca plan. I went through the exchange, and it has been quite an eyeopener. My opinion on what they need to do is let the market dictate, and let people by their insurance the weighted by Everything Else. Their insurance just like they buy Everything Else. I hope they continue to work on trying to bring Free Market Solutions to this. We should be able to buy insurance just like we by Everything Else. Host again, we are talking with aca enrollees only. If you live in the eastern or central time zones, 2027488000. Mountain or pacific time zones, 2027488001. We will be talking about health care for a great deal of the show today. We will have a roundtable discussion on health care at 8 00 focused on the bipartisan proposal to fix some of the subsidies that President Trump decided last week he would end payments for. This bipartisan proposal put together by senators Lamar Alexander and patty murray, the chairman and Ranking Member on the house, labor, and Pensions Committee has been working on this for several months now. Here is alexander yesterday talking about the proposal. Later this week, senator murray and i along with other senators will introduce a Bipartisan Legislation to create more choices for Health Insurance policy in the individual markets and extend subsidies for 2018 and 2019. These subsidies cover copays and deductibles for millions of low income americans who buy Health Insurance on the Affordable Care act exchanges. Our goal is to stabilize and then lower the cost of premiums and to enable all americans to have access to Health Insurance. I legislation will be based on for hearings and other meetings based on four hearings and other meetings that the committee will be holding over the month. Meetings were and bipartisan and lengthy. They were remarkable in this sense. They engaged nearly 60 senators from both lyrical parties both Political Parties in an extensive discussions. Host more about those subsidies you will be hearing even more about and has been hearing so much about, this is a New York Times article from yesterday on the proposals. The costsharing subsidies have been in doubt since the federal government ruled that the payments were unconstitutional because Congress Never appropriated money for them. So, President Trump the cleared last week that he would stop the payments. Many low income people would receive more Financial Assistance in the form of tax credits to pay the higher premiums, but many medium income more costs. Receive adding alexander also that it would provide more flexibility to the Affordable Care act with states expressing h possible insurance plans expert mounting with alternative, flexible insurance plans. We want to hear from aca enrollees only in this first hour of the washington journal. Diana from pennsylvania. Go ahead. Caller hello. We love it. We have been enrolled in the Program Since it was available in pennsylvania. We are selfemployed. Almost 1400 a month. My husband is older than i am. So, the fees for our family would always increase. The first year, we paid approximately 600 a month with aca. Every year, it has gone down a little bit. When pennsylvania expanded the medicare expansion due to our family size and income, we actually fell into that, so we were able to save some more. We have never had to change our doctor. The only change we have had to was from request to corp, becauselab i believe the contract had changed. Host what did you do through the Affordable Care act . Caller we purchased our own. We had blue cross and blue but it was always it was always almost 1400 a month which is even more than our mortgage. Fell intoconomy thousand eight in 2008, we had to make a lot of choices about our mortgage and health care. The aca has saved us. Host have you had any trouble with doctors seeing you . Or access to doctors . Caller never. This is the key that some of the people complain about. Unfortunately, i do not think they are getting the whole picture. If you read through the plants prior through the plans to purchasing them, you can read through them and figure out if your doctor is in that plan. If they are not, then you do not have to purchase that one, and you can purchase a different one. Two of our kids are diagnosed with autism, and one of them is diagnosed with diabetes. Them havingus about to change anything, because you get comfortable with the doctors you have for your kids. To seeread the plans what was offered, and we chose doctorsat our kids were under. There were Different Levels out of the service for our doctors, and we were always able to find our doctors. We live not far from philadelphia. I do not know if it is because we are just in that area that there are so many areas so many doctors participating in the plan, but we have never had trouble. Whenever i tried to explain how wonderful it is, i get immediately attacked by people saying that i am lying and that any to prove it. Silver, andys used we have never had trouble. It has been great. Tot next, we are going maine where chris is waiting period good morning. Is waiting. Good morning. Caller good morning. I was previously on my wifes plan. When i signed up for the aca, there were about 40 or 50 different choices at Different Levels with different costs and benefits. There was an enormous array of choices available. I would challenge anybody from the right wing to say that they had 40 or 50 different choices of insurance plans. Of course they cant, but that doesnt matter they just want to destroy the thing. I signed up for the aca, and it has been about 200 less a month. They provide better services. The reality is that it cannot and will not last, because one thing that people are not talking about, because it is terrifying to do so, is how much it costs for all this stuff. Pay for average ceo Certain Health Insurance Companies across the company went up to about 16 million or 70 million a year, there are some of the different organizations that have their hands in the cookie jar. We are paying 40 of every health care dollar we pay to people other than the doctors. Even the doctors have their pay going up and up. Hospital our local built a new er. They went all out with two beautiful italian discussion tables. Host so what is the answer . Caller i grew up in england, belgium, and i was in the military, and so i always had Government Run Health Care whether it was on military bases or living in foreign countries. We oil had very Good Health Care. In england, we always had very Good Health Care. In england, there was a doctor who was paid a salary and their job was to get good results. Unless you have a single pair Health Care System that is not based on wanting to make as much money as you can either they , it will notstem be repaired in our lifetime, because our entire country is so dependent on this forprofit model of health care. The aca has been good, but it cannot last. It will fall apart, and i hope republicans passed a bill that destroys it so that they can own it. It does not matter if the democrats or republicans own it, because it is not going to last forever. We are having this conversation a day after a Bipartisan Health bill has started to get some steam on capitol hill. Here is some Immediate Reaction from some of those in the senate after Lamar Alexander and patty plany introduced their focusing on some key Affordable Care act subsidies. Chuck schumer tweeting yesterday , i salute the two senators for working on a Bipartisan Health care solution. It received broad support from Senate Democrats today. Host we are going to continue to talk with aca enrollees only in this first hour of the washington journal. Shelley is waiting on the line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Host go ahead. ,aller i work in health care and i have worked for notforprofit organizations most of my life. Selfemployed, so i have carried the insurance for the last 15 years. He has a very Small Business. Unemployed, ore i was to be unemployed, our insurance would be about 1200 a month. So, i had to keep a job, so that i can keep insurance. We make athat good living. We have a Health Savings account that we use, and we understand how much things cost. We put money into our health we are account, and willing to pay whatever we need to pay for Health Insurance. But really, only if we are going to use it. We do not have to use it very often, because we do the prevention thing. And othermammogram yearly exams. So, across the board, i think we are to look at how much we investing in health care, and how much people are utilizing it. If you know you are going to pay money. If you know you are going to pay a deductible, you are going to be more cognizant about when you go to that er or dr. Doctor. Ast like if you went to Grocery Store and paid money at a very expensive Grocery Store or a not so expensive Grocery Store. Your expectation is that you are going to pay money, and that you need to put money away for this just like Everything Else in life. So that is my thought. Host do you think you could get by with a slimmed down version of your plan . There has been a push for more plans. They are having that discussion about whether all of the plants should have these essential Health Advocates in them. Essential Health Benefits in them. Caller because of my knowledge in health care, i could do a slimmed down version, but most people cannot. Most people cannot, because they do not understand their benefits. It is 20 pages of what is covered and not covered. Host we appreciate the call from missouri this morning. Patricia on the line. Caller good morning. , before i event get into our experience, is that the tax credits for lowincome families you only get a tax , ifit if you make income you do not make enough income to afford Health Insurance, you will not get a tax credit. I find that kind of ridiculous for low income families. , my husband was part of the downturn in 2006, so we have been self insuring since then. Because he has had some preexisting conditions, we have had to pay an awful lot of money. It is the most expensive thing we have to pay every year, more s our food,do fee our Living Expenses combined. When we went on to the aca, and itve him insurance aca, gave him insurance to begin with. We received health care that gave him what he needed, and we bought a silver plan. We do pay a fair bit of money for that plan between the two of us. Without subsidy for him it is about 1200, but with the subsidy it is about 868 a month. I have had a different plan, because i do not have any preexisting conditions. I am pretty lucky. Month,ying about 300 a and it would typically be about 600 or 700. That is the savings we have gotten. Aca, we had about a thousand dollar 11,000 deductible. As of yesterday, he has faced his third necessary surgery. He needed a back and a neck fusion which you was able to get, because he was rear ended by a car 30 years ago. It took a long time for the damage to show up. Our with that, we have sold condo, and we are going to eventually move to save money. They use that we were not on the aca, we went through hundreds of thousands of dollars in our savings. 62yearold, have sold where we intended to retire in order to afford to be able to , and nowire, travel that he has his fine parts fixed. Before the aca, he was not able to get these surgeries. It was getting to the point where his leg was dropping dragging, it is called foot drop. Host how concerned are you about that use Going Forward when it comes to the stability of your financial situation in light of the changes that have been proposed . Make as you watch the debate on capitol hill . Caller i am extremely concerned as anybody would be in our situation. I am sure we are not alone. I am sure there are a lot of people who lost jobs in the downturn who are in this situation. I normally do not get politically involved, but i am now getting very politically involved because this really matters. We are relocating closer to our on what, but, depending happens in this country, if we do not have health care we are originally canadian, we will have to leave where we have chosen to be in the last three years is the United States the last 30 years which has been the United States of america. Host we are looking at the states with the highest number acaarketplace in rowleys, highest number of aca enrotplace in release llees. The map is available online. We are having the conversation acaa in rowleys only this firstnly in hour. Here is senator patty murray, ey tof the two senators k this bipartisan bill introduced yesterday. As we know, patients and families are looking at the harmful staff that President Trump has taken to sabotage health care in our country. They are looking at their bank account, and they are realizing that, if the president continues down this path, they are the ones who will pay the price. Im glad that democrats and republicans have agreed that this is unacceptable and that this cannot continue. Theseleased that in hearings, we were able to find Common Ground on a number of steps to stabilize the markets and protect families from kes as a result of the sabotage we have seen from this administration. I am very optimistic that we will be able to make an announcement with all the details very soon. That we will be able to show that whennd families republicans and democrats in Congress Take the time to work together, rather than retreating to partisan corners, we can truly get things done to help the people we serve. It is just after 7 30 on the east coast. We are talking to aca enrollees only in this first hour. Aca in rowley in nrollee in the eastern or central time zone, 2027488000. Mountain or pacific time zones, 2027488001. Feeddent trumps twitter ready very active this morning. He tweeted out a few minutes ago. The tax reform debate is also moving forward on capitol hill appeared here is one other debate from this morning on capitol hill. Here is another tweet from this morning. That to your calls this morning. Ginger in st. Louis, missouri. Good morning. Caller i just wanted to say that the aca saved my life. I have been a selfemployed made, and selfemployed maid, and the clinic i used to go to would not accept me anymore because of my plan. I went to a doctor who said i will need a surgery, and i told him that i cannot afford surgery. He told me to go to the aca and get a policy. I read every page until i found a plan that covers everything i knew i would need. I felt bad that i was only going because i knew i needed it, but i did need it, and it was there for me. It saved my life. It was a 13 pound cancerous tumor. I asked the doctor if he would do this for free . He said, no, i would not have done it for free. Even if i could have done it for free, the hospital would not have allowed it to happen for free. Thank you president obama for saving my life. People who talk bad about the aca, i wish you understood how many people there are out here whose lives it is saving. It just seems like they are so against us. I worked very hard and i pay taxes. I do not understand why they hae te it so. I cannot see anything better our money should be spent on than our own health. Host mary on the line from wisconsin. Caller i, like your previous fan of the aca. Retired in 2006, i had a preexisting condition that i was not aware of. It was benign, but it was not covered by the Insurance Programs available to me. So, i went on a plan in wisconsin which was the high risk plan. It was a good plan that covered everything that i needed covered. It was pretty comprehensive, and i paid 360 a month with a 1000 deductible. When i was forced onto the aca, my premiums and deductibles kept going up and up. Point where i was kicked off my plan the providers i was using stopped using the aca. So now, i am with my fourth provider under the aca. Is 898 a right now month with a 6,000 deductible. It. Thankful i can afford next year i will be on medicare. What i do not understand, and i am not opposed to helping people like the previous caller. I think we have a responsibility to do that for people who genuinely need help, but i do not understand why our politicians do not go after Insurance Companies and make them compete for our business . Also, if they went after tort reform. Have theiroviders costs as potential costs if they were in suit if they were sued. I knowfrom sales, and that when i had to compete for business now we really had to sharpen our pencils. Was allowed,ion new products developed, and we in technologyom in the telecommunications industry. When i went to companies in the early 1980s, even without looking at what they were spending, i could save them a minimum of 20 . The cost in that industry has come down considerably, and i think the same should be looked at when it comes to the Health Care Industry. There are areas specifically for the Insurance Companies, that if they had to compete for my business, they would have to sharpen their pencils and devise new programs that are specific to me. They would have to come up on come up with group plans for someone like me who is no longer in a group other than by my age or gender. Host one other story making headlines today. This is coming from the local news in miami. Aesident donald trump telling u. S. Army sergeants widow yesterday that he knew what he was signing up for, but when it happens it hurts anyways. That is according to a Democratic Congress woman from florida. She was quoted in the story as commentshe president s as so insensitive. He called at about 4 45 p. M. And spoke with johnsons pregnant widow. The conversation happened before his remains arrived on the Miami International airport commercial delta flight. The congresswoman tweeting her thoughts about the president s phone call with the sergeants widow. The president responding to those comments this morning. You can see his own tweets this morning. This morning, we are talking proposalipartisan later to health care. We are speaking with aca enrollees only this morning. If you live in the eastern or. Entral time zone, 2027488000 if you live in the mountain or specific or pacific time zones, 2027488001. Next caller from michigan. Go ahead. Caller good morning. I have been on the Affordable Care act since when it first started. For me, i feel like i have excellent insurance through the university of michigan madison hospital. I have the silver plan, and i have excellent services. There is stateoftheart equipment at the Doctors Office and help this in hospital. One thing i do not like about the block grants is what they will do if they provide block care block grant health care to the states is that they would create a Community Health care clinic which is very different from the stateoftheart university of michigan madison. The last thing i would like to say is that, the problem with the block grant is that there will not be any consistency in the Health Care System. The election changes every four years. Whoever is in charge, democrats or republicans, there will always be a flux in the system every four years. We will never be able to have it so that it is consistent throughout history to have health care. That is a big problem, because whoever is in charge will change it back to what democrats want more than what republicans want. Then whatts want or republicans want. The problem is not with the Affordable Care act, it is with the costs that hospitals and doctors are charging. I have seen a special on 60 minutes and other shows where placenee surgery at one will cost 5,000 while it might cost 10,000 at another place in the same state. A knee surgery is a knee surgery. The problem is not obamacare or the portable care act, it is the costs. Host next caller from texas. Caller what is my best friends who had recently moved to the United States from england wanted to make a life for himself. He had his green card and was so excited. As soon as he was ready to get a job and everything, he was diagnosed with ms. Ever amber, does he have Affordable Care act Health Insurance . Caller yes, sir. He had to here, but go back to england for health care services, because he is worried that trump will rip it all out from under him with a preexisting condition. In texas. Was amber lisa on the line from pennsylvania. Caller my husband is selfemployed, and he has been selfemployed for 25 years. Sclerosis,multiple and i have had it for 25 years for as long as my husband has been selfemployed. We were able to buy insurance that was wonderful before the aca was put into place. I was never dropped or denied coverage. , and i hadpolicies every single medical expense covered for my disease. Allso had pregnancies and other sorts of Health Care Needs that were met. Under the aca, my current and il bill is 5,000, have a 5,000 deductible. We paid 18,000 this year for the policy. My husband has a 5,000 deductible. Is 10,000. Ductible now that i have met my deductible, i have an outofpocket deductible which is 2500. I basically have no Health Care Coverage at all. Up until the aca, i have had wonderful Health Care Coverage. Price with athe deductible of only 1000. Every year, the policy under the aca has gone up 25 . Next year, it is being conducted by the Insurance Industry that people who buy an individual policy will be paying 25 more. Host lisa, thank you for telling your story. We are having this conversation this morning a day after a bipartisan bill was unveiled on capitol hill aimed at shoring up of portable care act shoring up the Affordable Care act. We will talk more about this coming up at 8 00 during a roundtable discussion on health care. Yesterday, a leading conservative was outright hostile towards the new bipartisan plan. Should focus on repealing and replacing obamacare rather than trying to fix it. , as coming from mark walker republican from north carolina, in a statement on twitter. He is the chairman of the influential republican study committee. Senate Republican Leaders were less than enthusiastic. We havent had a chance to think about the way forward at, said Mitch Mcconnell his Weekly News Conference minutes after alexander announced the deal about 20 feet away. All of the clips we have been showing you this morning are available on our website, www. Cspan. Org. We have a couple comments on twitter this morning from folks watching. Those are just a few of the comments on twitter. You can join in that conversation over at http twitter. Com cspanwj every morning. Our next caller in arizona. Good morning. Caller good morning. How is everyone doing . Host doing well. Caller my comment is that i have the aca, and i like it. Quiteuced the cost for us a day. For a while, i did not have any insurance. I was in a motorcycle wreck 10 years ago, and i ended up paying about 50,000 out of my own savings. That, they says the aca is terrible, but the republicans signed a waiver and sat in the corner and did not do anything for eight years. They could do was wine was whine. They say the aca is horrible, but they have done nothing to help it. I just want to say that i like it. I hope we do get singlepayer in this country so that everything we make is not have an insurance policy of don do it. Hooked insurance policy onto it. Host next caller in virginia. Caller i am under the aca, and i have seen my premiums gone up. However, i would not want to get rid of it. Without the aca, my friend would not have Health Insurance. I like to go out to ruby tuesday and golden corral, none of this people without the aca would have Health Insurance. Everywhere you go, you meet people who do not have Health Insurance who could get everybody else sick. If everybody has Health Insurance on a regular basis, then why get rid of it . You are making everyone else more sick if you get rid of it. Host you would vote for a singlepayer system . Caller yes, eventually. We cannot just jump to a singlepayer system. You have to work your way to it. Host john from nebraska. Go ahead. Caller good morning. We are very pleased with it. I am selfemployed and have been my whole life for 41 years. Traditionally, i purchased my insurance through a pool of selfemployed people. Last year, i was with the blue cross and blue shield before i. Ent on to the aca that was about seven or eight use ago. My premiums at that seven or eight years ago. My premiums had already spiked. I get to continue to see the same doctors and have the same premiums. I am receiving the same services. I have a five dollar copay for when i see my doctor. I got my flu shot, and i got my for anythingnts that i needed taking care of. It has been great. Host how much of those Preventative Care issues did you take care of before you went on the Affordable Care act . Caller i did not have any. And,at 61 years old now, previously, before i was on the exchange, i did not really have any medical issues, but since then i have discovered i have high blood pressure. My medication cost for that is about three dollars. I think we can get that under control, too, with some further lifestyle changes. But it has been fine. I would figure has been no difference between the insurance i had previously and the insurance i now get through obamacare. It is still private insurance through aetna. I did not understand people adding to this confusion that obamacare is like an Insurance Company, it is not. Go to enlist you in other Health Insurance. It reduced my costs dramatically. Host that was john. We are speaking with people who purchase their insurance through. He aca marketplaces aca enrollees who have gone through that system. That is who we have been talking to in this first hour. We have a few minutes left in this segment. A little over 10 million aca enrollees around the country, and we have heard a few of their stories this money. John from virginia. Go ahead. Caller yes, i was on the aca for a while myself. I was a contractor working for a company that did not provide any medical insurance. So, i did that for a while, and it was very expensive. The deductibles were totally unrealistic. It was premature like trump said, you have to be hit by a cement truck before you can really use these coverages. My main point is the Bigger Picture issue. A lot of these socialist people who say that America Needs to be more like europe, they are being totally unrealistic. Number one, the demographics of europe are way different than the demographics in this country. Number two, everybody is a contributor in europe. That is not the case in this country. Socialism. S seen as it is seen as well ealthtribution as w redistribution, and not everyone is contributing into it. If you want medical insurance, then you should work, make money, and get it. That is capitalism. Host what about those folks who do not have Health Insurance and end up having something catastrophic happened to them . The hospitals and of bearing the costs for them. Insurance . Have caller i support assistance for those who are Senior Citizens or handicapped, but there otherwise should not be anything. Whenever you want, you work for it and you get it. This is not a communist or socialist country. If you want to live in europe, they go live in europe. Host we are keeping you updated on some other stories this morning in our first segment of the washington journal. Also in the senate yesterday, Senate Republicans backed their budget bill pushing tax cuts. They made crucial progress yesterday as Senate Republicans rally behind a Budget Proposal. Senate republicans are now hopeful they can agree on a final budget resolution this week. They will be working on it again today which is a key procedural step to help them pass their tax cut plan this year without relying on support from democrats. The Washington Post noting that even with the breakthroughs yesterday, some hurdles still remain. Identified trillions of dollars in tax reduction they , and they havete sorted out how to ensure how to inshore that any tax cuts how to ensure that any tax cuts are covered in the budget. Nationwide order freezing most ban. Esident trumps travel judges for now, the order will prevent the Trump Administration from stopping almost all travel to the United States indefinitely from most of the countries named in the ban. It has been one of the most legally troubled measures that President Trump has taken. The Supreme Court was scheduled ,o over here the second order and now the Supreme Court is likely to take an interest in the current order as well. We have time for just a few more calls. We are talking with those who get their insurance through the Affordable Care act marketplace only. Tell us what works for you and what does not. Next caller from alabama. I have worked 34 years as a registered nurse. I am enrolled in Blue Cross Blue Shield under the aca, and this is the best insurance i have ever had. I do not understand why people do not want to see other people with Health Insurance. The only reason they want to get rid of the aca is because barack obama got it through. Thank you. Host edward in new jersey this morning. Caller i am enrolled in the aca, and there are tens of millions of people who are working every day in this country. Yet, just because they do not have a job entitlement or a college education, they do not deserve health care . You go to a gym, and this person cleans a toilet, that is good service. Why shouldnt that person deserve Health Insurance . If you go to a restaurant, the people who serve your food, why shouldnt they receive Health Insurance . That is my comment. Thank you. Host that was edward in new jersey this morning. One other story to let you know about we mention this in programming. President trump struggles to fill vacant jobs in his administration. Tapped to has been head the federal drug control committee, but he has since resigned his name. This following reports of his role in passing legislation that we can the ability of the federal government to prevent Drug Companies from selling opioids. A. Trump on monday repeated previous unsettled pledge to declare a National Emergency which would make easier for the government to provide funding. Nd resources that would do it for our first segment on the washington journal today. There is still a lot to talk about on the Health Policy front. To do that, we will be joined by two Top Health Care reporters. Later today, we will also speak with the Hills National correspondent. He will talk to us about his programming that looks at key Economic Trends and social trends around the country impacting the electorate. We will be right back. Close your eyes for a moment. Close your eyes. I see you. Trust me. Empathy. I want you to stretch your imagination. [crashing sound] open your eyes. Happens. Ow fast it in a blank. Blink. No warning. Talking about his own paralysis and his work to help paralyzed veterans. This is the problem. This is what i see from a policy perspective, from an advocate perspective. You have to emphasized. Empathize. 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A Health Care Roundtable discussion we are ned by burbach adams at cq glad to have you both after a busy couple of days. Lets start with yesterday. A new deal on health care. Walk us through what this deal does and what the subsidies are. Basically what it would do, this is a narrow bill. It would fund a costsharing program for two years, funding the president said he was going to cut out of the Affordable Care act. It would also provide new flexibility to the state to get around the obamacare requirements. This is the funding for democrats and the flexibility republicans want. They are going to try to convince their colleagues to vote for it. Some republicans dont want to put their stamp of approval on anything to do with obamacare. Host talk about that giveandtake. To get theh agreement on both sides of the votes . Guest i think it is going to be interesting and difficult. The republicans do not want to go along with this. The Senate Republicans are noncommittal. President trump has sent mixed signals. He came out yesterday saying he was in support of it. Last night he cast cold water on it. It is going to be interesting how they get this done. What that vehicle might be, it is not clear. There is hurricane money. The House Republicans already voting for something they didnt want in the last batch of hurricane funding. They may not be willing to go that route. Host you mentioned the president s comments. Lets play those for our viewers. Democrats have finally responded to my call for them to take responsibility for their obamacare disaster and work with republicans to provide relief to the american people. While i commend the bipartisan it, ii do commend continue to believe Congress Must find a solution to the obamacare mess instead of providing bailouts to Insurance Companies. Host in the president s statements he seemed to indicate he was involved in the discussions between murray and alexander. How involved was he . Thursdayesident on made it sound like this was a negotiating tactic. He wanted to get democrats to come to the table to talk about obamacare and other priorities. It really did seem to spur the negotiations on the pill between alexander on the hill between alexander and murray. What we are going to be looking for is, is the president wind to put his stamp of approval on this deal . Without it is not going to pass. Host we have mentioned the funding. Rebecca adams, what are dsr payments . Who is impacted . Guest if you make between 12,000 and 30,000, you are getting two kinds of subsidies. Help with your monthly premiums and your copays and deductibles. Range, the broader 12 to 48,000 a year salary would also get the monthly premium help, but not with the copays and deductibles. This is funding that goes to Insurance Companies to lower those deductibles. Insurers say this is critical. Without this money premiums go up 20 . It is vital to the success of the marketplaces. The people who are going to be hurt by this are people who dont get subsidies. People at the upper end of getting subsidies. The people who get these subsidies, Insurance Companies have to keep helping them but they dont get reimbursed. Premium at thera higher rates is going to fall on people who dont get subsidies. Host why did President Trump pulled the payments thursday . Guest it goes to win john boehner was the house speaker. He saw the lawsuit against this part of the Affordable Care act. They argued this was a drafting error in the law. The Obama White House was illegally funding the program. The house went to court and filed a lawsuit about this. The court agreed that the Affordable Care act never funded this program. Last the election november this has been a damocles that has been looming over them. The white house has been threatening to pull this funding. The president pulled the trigger. There was speculation after the repeal efforts failed, republicans were able to repeal the Health Care Law this was going to be something he was going to do. On thursday he decided to do it. Host the premium subsidies you talked about, is there any chance those could be in danger . Guest no. This is not affecting the premium subsidies. As we think about this, we have seen most states had priced in the idea these costsharing subsidies would not be around. Some states did not price that in. Two states allowed insurers to make a choice. We have seen in the past couple of days Insurance Companies, saying you have to raise prices again. In pennsylvania we saw a 30 increase. So this is something for upper income people is going to make a huge difference. Invite ournt to viewers to join the conversation. Answering your questions after a busy past five or six days on the health care beat. Ande lines republicans a special line for those insured through the aca. Taking your calls. You can start calling in now. What do you think the impact will be on an executive order last thursday evening, and now this bipartisan deal unveiled on that enrollment . Guest i have been following this law for eight years. There has been a lot happening in the last couple of days. Sometimes it is hard for me to keep it straight. There is a lot of confusion out there. Is obamacare in place . Do i still get my subsidies . This is a lot of confusion. That is going to have an impact when people start to enroll. Guest jennifer is right. People enrolled last year are getting letters saying here is what your rates are going to be. A lot of them are concerned. Ifdont even know for sure when open enrollment starts if the rates people see will be the real rates because there could be changes and adjustments. He rates would only go lower that is good to know. If it does, they still intend on posting rates ahead of time so people can window shop. With all of this uncertainty it is interesting. Host for independents. Caller thank you for taking my call. I would like either one of your guests to explain something to me. In north carolina, Blue Cross Blue Shield pays its executive year. Million a that it is a struggle to get by on that. But these people produce nothing. It is not as if they are making truck axles. That money has to come from somewhere. Most, i am assuming, comes from deny,ms, or claims they or who knows where else. It seems to me ridiculous and unjustified. I would like your comments. Host before you go, i will let our panel comments, but what would be a fair compensation for the ceo of a Health Care Insurance company . Er host are you still there . Guest there is a provision that requires insurers to spend a certain amount on actual medical care. Onis capped at 15 administrative costs including cell array. It is popular with lawmakers. Not widely known. There is a cap there. If insurers spend more and a year on these profits, they have to reimburse their patients. Some people might have gotten a ,otice saying your insurer their Health Care Costs were not as high as anticipated, here is your rebate. It gets to what the caller was talking about, these high salaries that are not popular with folks struggling to get by. Host do we know how much these accumulate to over the course of the past year . Number, butave that they have gone out. Insurers in some places and overprice their plans, and other places they have underpriced and we have seen insurers go under. Insured through the aca, go ahead. Caller i would like to point out a court case everyone is relying on was a District Court case. The opinion has been stayed in the participants in the appeal have to go before the Appeals Court and say why they are not moving forward with the case. Guest that is a good point. When the judge said you cant infer this appropriation is made , she did stay her order. There has been this continuous question about what was going to happen. There is a group of attorneys askedl who have sued and to. That case will go forward. Host where does it go forward . What court will it the end . Guest the Appeals Court. Host at what point does this get to the Supreme Court . What would have to happen . Guest there have been multiple cases that have gone to the spring court. Isy would move on if there rulings in different areas that contradict each other. Host the line for democrats. Good morning. Caller good morning. How are you . A substitute teacher, parttime work. When it comes to applying for open enrollment or for insurance, it makes it difficult. This year i was uninsured because my employee years my employer doesnt offer it. Louisiana orin across the country for those of us who are parttime employees or could not afford to provide for the premiums that were offered . I have a specific medication that would run for a month 1800. Can you tell us what your salary is . That might be personal information, but in louisiana they have expanded medicaid. It depends on what your salary would be. Caller i dont qualify for medicaid. My salary puts me over it. Guest there are folks in the situation who dont qualify for medicaid. The Affordable Care act is still unaffordable for them. It is one of the problems in the Health Care Law. Insurance premiums are still too high for them. Do i pay my premiums or go uninsured and pay the mandate . Every year. Ng i think it is 700 this year which is a lot of money if you are not sure how much money you are going to have any year. It is one of the criticisms republicans are quick to point out. It is not an affordable option. Or you have a deductible that is so astronomical insurance is out of reach. Host did you want to add to that . Guest she handled it perfectly. It is something they have been grappling with. Host victoria is a democrat. Good morning. Caller good morning. What i am most frustrated with is this could be fixed. She is talking premiums being too high. Rather than all of the sabotage. It is more popular than ever. We are going to fight for it. If republicans would come to the table and someone would tell our ridiculous president the truth and the facts, that he is , notoying sabotaging it keeping his word on the campaign trail about not taking away , if theyand medicare would just do the fixes we can have really Good Health Care before we end up going to maybe singlepayer. It is so frustrating. Host Rebecca Adams on the president s role here, and what is happening today. Guest there is confusion, based on what the president has done, there has been some problems out there. The president did that money for outreach, for letting people know about the open enrollment season that is coming up november 1. Part of the deal would restore some of that. People,ying a lot of you will hear democrats talk quite a bit about the word sabotage. I think there is a role being played. I think the deal that was reached would go a long way making the marketplace more viable for the next couple of years. Host we mentioned the executive order that happened last thursday. Walk us through the changes. Guest what the executive order did, it allowed Association Health plans. This would allow groups of people in the same industry, plumbers, if they are not and a union, to buy insurance together. It makes a lot of sense on the one hand. These are the folks inside the individual market. If they can pull together and act like a company they can probably bring down Health Care Costs. There are some issues. Critics say these plans would not have the same standards. You could go back to the junk insurance that existed before were you think you are covered but when you get sick you are not. They try to expand insurance across state lines. This is a popular idea with republicans. The idea of the selling insurance across state lines kind of like geico. It is different with health care because it is set up with networks. You want to be covered by an. Nsurer in your area if you buy insurance across state lines you probably are not in network when you are going to the doctor. Host the expectation is people who will use this are currently in the exchanges. One of our guests said there is an expectation people who dont have insurance would use this as well. Which one is more likely . Guest a little of both. Most likely folks it buying insurance on the Insurance Market through the affordable. Are act could stand to benefit it probably will be less expensive because they dont have to qualify for all of the standards of the aca. Host what happens to those left there these people leave and make use of the executive order . If there were people who were leaving, people protected by subsidies may not have as much concern as others but if you are on the upper end of the scale, you would have a big premium increase. That could lead to a deterioration of the market. Another thing that was part of the executive order was the shortterm plans. Those dont have to comply with obamacare rules at all including preexisting conditions. They can charge more for preexisting conditions. These are plans offered by which wouldh group really as jennifer said, they are in some cases seen as junk insurance because they have a lot of limits on the coverage. They might only allow for a thousand Dollars Per Day for a hospital stay. Withdont have to comply the essential Health Benefits that are part of the Health Care Law. Host coming up on 8 30. We are talking health care today. Twitter. Ollow her on in jennifer have her corn habercorn. A very busy last couple of days on the health care eat. Grace is in alabama. Republican. Guest i would like to step back a little and ask a question about the general trends of health care. The population is increasing. The older population is increasing. People who would have died at verys in their lives are being saved in a condition that requires a great deal of medical care. Trends likeeeing you dont go to the doctor for shots can you go to the drugstore or the Grocery Store. We are going to reach a point have we simply dont resources. Even if every penny of wealth is put into medical care it is not going to be enough. The substitute for the traditional things, like taking your child to the Family Doctor who would give him a shot, you go down to the Grocery Store and the clerk will give your child a star shot. We are going to have to go to that. Think this is going to work out in the long run . There weere is a lot can try to tackle. There is an aging population. When medicare was established, 65 was pretty old. Quiveryearolds would with that characterization. Folks are living a long time. Heres a lot of advancements it has raised ethical questions. Most spend the vast majority of their Health Care Dollars in the last months of their life, it is aks alive difficult decision. Do you want to pull the plug on grandma or invest millions in keeping her alive . No one should have to face those decisions. It is a difficult ethical conversation to have. That combination, we are spending more on health care. Some of it is great and some of it perhaps isnt the best use of dollars but unlike other parts of your lives, people dont want to put a price tag on their familys health. That is when we do end up spending a ton of money on health care. Guest we have made coverage gains but cost is a tremendous issue. We have a hard time dealing with discussions like endoflife. We saw there was a discussion about allowing doctors to get paid for having these conversations with people that was characterized as a death panel. Medicare has made changes in that regard. Endoflife care is something we have to grapple with. We need to think about how much care is needed. Sometimes you can have procedures that dont really life in aust prolong way that is not beneficial to them in the long run. It is something we need to deal with and it is part of a much bigger discussion. Host frank is an independent. He gets his insurance through the Affordable Care act exchanges. Be willing tod trade my payments to the Insurance Company to a payment to the government so i could get Decent Health care. Most people get insurance from their employers. I wish i knew what the percentage was. They dont have a clue what insurance costs. I have a preexisting condition. If i work for a big company i fall into their pool with no issues. In the exchange, i fall into their pool, no issues. For folks that dont like obamacare, the aca is the exact same thing. They love it in kentucky and they hated in georgia. What are the percentages . Host of people who get their insurance through their employer . The number we had from the Kaiser Family foundation, over 10 million. Guest we spent a lot of time talking about the exchanges when it is only three or 4 of the population. Most get coverage through employers. All of this talk about the exchanges is a political issue but doesnt affect that many people. People who get coverage through the exchanges or buying through the private market is about 18 Million People total. Host a democrat. Good morning. Caller yes. The whole thing about the Affordable Care act is it is supposed to make Health Care Affordable. Health care the affordable is an arbitrary thing. What is affordable to one may not be affordable to other people. They put these caps and limits. People, if you are struggling to decisions,economic whether you buy health care or by food, when you set these what you can and cant afford, these economic beisions that you have to choose. It is not something health care shouldnt be, if it is affordable, there should be no price tag to it. It should be that it is a right that you should be given, then you could go in and get health care that you need rather than how much does it cost . Is one of the big criticisms of the Affordable Care act, some plans are just not affordable. Democrats higher than anticipated. For a variety of reasons. They would have reduced healthcare costs for everybody else. And, it is true, whether your premiums are affordable is one question. The other whether your deductible is affordable. If you have a 10,000 deductible that was insurance out of reach. Host are there any limits to that . To those who so plans through the market . Insurance companies themselves set the price but do they have to stay in margins . Guest yeah, but they are different plans offered in most areas. Bronze, silver, gold. If you have a gold versus a bronze, a bronze plan has a lower premium but higher deductible. You are playing paying less monthly but out of pocket costs are higher. And is health care a right . That is one of the big differences between republicans and democrats. Democrats argue this is a right. They have in trying to pass universal Health Care Law since harry truman. Republicans say they dont want to take Health Care Away from everyone but they dont think it should be a priority for the federal government. That is where we get at these partisan divides they are not able to get over. Guest i was just saying, we need to remember that before the Affordable Care act there were not limits on outofpocket costs. The Affordable Care act does put a cap of 7,000 outofpocket costs. There were some changes made with the Health Care Law that do protect people from the huge expenses before the Health Care Law was passed. More than half of bankruptcies were related to medical claims. People who had insurance, that their insurance did not cover. They had to go and declare bankruptcy because of medical costs. That is still a problem in some cases but less. Jennifer is right when she says the deductibles for a lot of people feel out of reach. People feel as if im paying hundreds of dollars a month and still have to meet a 5,000 deductible, is your insurance really good for me . Guest if a democrat were saying that sitting here they would say it is great if you are protected if you have a catastrophic injury. That is what they are trying to prevent. Those medical bankruptcies. The issue is folks who are in between, who go to the doctor in might have a structure, perhaps an appendectomy, a minor surgical procedure in which that deductible can you are getting close to it. Host independent in south carolina. Caller i apologize if this has already been spoken to. Trying to stick with the future of health care. Back to arevert conversation, a mention of the death panel thing. In 2014. Y mother died let me tell you, when you go in the hospital, first thing they do is a sign a sign a caseworker to you. Kick you out of the hospital as quick as they can. Timesot tell you how many they called me. This is the medicare standards. Her head would be hanging over the wheelchair in a curb. Back to the topic. I dont have an aca plan. My son had it. Deductible. 000 his premiums were very expensive. 8,400 a year. He went to a doctor with intestinal problems. The doctor suggested a colonoscopy. Said, they discussed how much it was. He said i cant afford it. The doctor said youve got to because you have not met your deductible. He said i cant do it. In the old days he could have negotiated a price for a cash discount which had would have been cheaper. The doctor said we cant do that because it is against the law. That needs to be changed. You need to be able to negotiate a price and get away from insurance even though you have it. And the individual mandate, it is tyranny when you for somebody to buy something and makes you a text criminal if you dont. Whato do the future to know the future of the individual mandate. I saw a report. There. Ouve got a lot our panel is interested in talking about some of those. Lets end it there. Guest there are some people in the department of health and Human Services who are interested in a to negotiate prices. We will see what happens with that. The individual mandate is a big issue for people. You see concerns on both sides of the aisle from that. People who are libertarian, on the conservative side, and people who are on the left to have concerns about the individual mandate. We will see what happens with that. Yesterday one of the things conservative groups were talking about, they want added sunday that would kill the individual mandate and employer mandate. That could be part of the discussion Going Forward. Guest rebecca is right on the individual mandate. I was expecting when republican repeal effort they did, if the mandate would be there rallying cry . One thing to pass the individual mandate, probably the least popular part of the Affordable Care act. But the insurers need it. They argue without it you dont have Healthy People required to get into the pool. That is why it is unpopular. People dont want to be mandated to buy insurance. That is why we solve this philosophical opposition from the aca. That is what the Supreme Court case in 2012 was about. The insurers say they needed to remain afloat. I dont think that is going to be part of this deal but it is going to be in the discussion around the deal and we are going to see conservatives say if we are being asked to prop up the aca we need to get something in return like that. Host good morning. Caller im thinking the president who is trying to run the country, we probably have a 700 billion dollar deficit spending this year. Or thegest is the aca aca. How is he going to do that . Analysiser gave a cost of it. Donald trump is perfectly right saying hes not going to pay for it. Thank you. Host you are asking about the medicaid specifically . Caller that is the biggest expense. That is the biggest growth. The aca, it is what is causing the problems in our budget. Guest medicaid is and childrens Health Insurance have grown by 17 Million People. Remember that the Health Care Law was paid for. Democrats provided money through a variety of means including taxes on wealthier people, including fees on hospitals and devise makers. A variety of people. The Health Care Law was paid for. Not just in the first 10 years but beyond that. There have been a few tweaks that congress has made since then but democrats would point to the Congressional Budget Office analysis. Guest rebecca covered it perfectly. Host robert in michigan. Caller i would like to know who health care deals. I never find out. Host in terms of who is actually writing the legislation . Caller yeah. Who is writing health care for us . Is it Drug Companies and Insurance Companies . Guest this deal we are talking about that was announced was written by Lamar Alexander from tennessee and patty murray from washington state. They like to work on bipartisan deals. They have a record of this. They worked on the reauthorization of no child left behind. It. Have written iscan argue the industry trying to get involved in those discussions. This does not seem to be an industry driven build. Areth Insurance Companies talking about the Health Insurance premium tax. Theiris a tax directly on Health Insurance plans. If they have their way that would be part of this discussion. This hill is there a narrow. It does not get that a lot of industry concerns. Host what is an industry driven bill you have seen . Guest we have seen a lot of the taxes in the aca get tweaked and delay. The Health Insurance premium tax was delayed. Medical devise tax comes up a lot. The medical devices industry hates it. When there is a big deal they are talking about trying to get there toir to get get it repealed or delayed. No one wants to be taxed. It makes sense they are lobbying against it. Cliven, line for republicans. Caller it would be very interesting if all of you would think about the following. If we had health care in this country from birth to death, we would be saving hundreds of billions of dollars. For example, the Rand Corporation in 1983 did a study alcoholism, resulting in 50 billion a year in untreated alcoholism. Why do we have to waste all of this time. Make Health Care Affordable for everyone. One of the issues that has withup in recent weeks Bernie Sanders and a group of other Democratic Senators is the push for a singlepayer health care, a renewed push for it. How do you feel about that . Caller i would like to see that happen. Host will it happen . Guest no. It will not happen in the near term. Im going to disappoint democratic listeners by saying that but when congress was controlled by democrats, when they had 60 votes in the senate they were not able to get a public option. Politically i do not see it happening. There are more people supporting it. A third of the Senate Democrats support Bernie Sanders bill he brought up last month. There does seem to be a growing momentum among activists. I think that we are a long way from moving forward on that. Guest absolutely. I dont see it happening any time soon. There will be a lot of noise about it. The health care from birth to death, that is what democrats tried to do from the aca. They wanted universal Health Care Coverage. They wanted to expand the people with Health Care Coverage. They were able to do that. There were problems. The Supreme Court struck the medicaid expansion. That put a gap in with the aca able to do. They were able to get closer. Host 15 minutes left in our coverage. It would be a good time and to call and if your questions about the future of health care. Joining us, time for a few more calls. Life for democrats. Go ahead. Caller good morning. Im glad i was able to get through. , my wife issay that younger than i am. We did not realize how much cost was when i retired. Before four years to go she got medicare. It is expensive. This was in 2007. In two and a half years it went up. 75 . Nt up the other thing is, i have a son glioma. A they didnt figure it he would live a year. Ago and he years still cant work because he has seizures. Twice he has ended up with blood on the brain. We have been supporting him for 25 years. If he did not have the state bed health care he would really hurting. People should understand. Older, you need it. Have aople who dont im sorry. Im so nervous. Appreciatingot what the union does for the worker. Care iswhat your health doing. Thank you for sharing your story. Guest i sympathize with all of the situations you describe. People will find there are higher costs. People have a hard time affording coverage, even in the Health Care Law that we have now. Many are just waiting to get into medicare even though medicare doesnt cover everything. I think that is an issue. One thing that is interesting about the deal is it would make it easier to get waivers. They are allowing states to potentially change the definition of affordable coverage. Some states might look at that and say do we change the amount of what older people are charged . Right now there is a limit. Older people can only be charged three times more. States may want to tinker around with that. The color used the phrase, didnt know what the cost was. It brings up the topic of transparency. His health care any more transparent today than it was before the Affordable Care act . Bills that show what we are paying for . Guest the bottom line is, not ready. If you have a broken leg, how can you not find out what it costs at this hospital versus another . One of them is these networks. If you are covered me your insurer has a network. If you are living in a city and have those options they will be different depending on what hospital to go to. Insurers negotiate. , goodhave been examples risk g on this, how a wrist splint will cost more than if you go to walgreens and by the same wrist splint. There is frustration around that. Lawmakers are interested in this idea. This volatility around the aca, it is hard to see legislation that would address this. It would bring up the partisanship. The it would be popular because people want that transparency. Host gary, independent. Caller thank you for taking my call. You mentioned transparency. Dig into the management of hospitals and find out how much a ceo makes a year. A small hospital near me, they make 500,000 a year. For what, we dont know. Many third world countries are providing universal health care for their citizens. Why cant we . We have a lot of money. Thank you. Guest i think that is one of the complaints we hear, how much executives make. It alreadyve heard this morning. Guest exactly. Big to dowe solve the about at the pens and how rises were going up, one of the issues was how much a ceo was making. He happened to be the daughter of a senator. Joe manchin was the ceo of mylan. This is something that is part of the discussion. Anythinghink theres that people will expect to change because we live in a capitalist society and there doesnt seem to be an appetite for changing. Host line for republicans, go ahead. Arena, the whole medical my ignorance is completely corrupt. I didnt have any choice but to go to an emergency situation due to my doctor, who demanded i go emergency room. I was anemic. I went to the hospital and the saidwas at the reception i still had to do that. Onaid i probably need to put an illegal immigrant outfits like and get it for free. She said boy, are you not kidding. This woman walked in and had a baby for free. I see that all the time. Abouthing is so unfair our government and how it is handled. Most people in the government probably do or joan but it certainly is disproportionate to how much taxes i have put into our country on a regular basis for 64 years. Pathetic. It is host a couple of issues he. Rings up, Illegal Immigrants do they get Free Health Care in the United States . Guest there is a requirement that Emergency Departments have to accept folks in some kind of crisis situation. It is a condition of medicare. Regardless of whether they are undocumented. You have to make them stable. That is something americans as a society are pretty much agreed upon. You dont want people dying on the street. Help. Spital should undocumented immigrants dont have access to the subsidies in the Affordable Care act. Should folks people to at least be able to access the plans even if they cant access the subsidies . Getcrats were not able to consensus around that. Immigrants dont have access. In california where there is a large undocumented population is trying to ensure those folks can enroll. That would be one of the changes democrats would like to see but i dont see that happening. Host the other issue was insurance that federal employees and members of congress get. Can you talk about what they have access to . Is it different . Guest in terms of members of congress, they do get coverage in the exchanges, but they get extra. They get employer contributions. As congress it can be generous. They get access to the attending office of the physician for minor aches and pains. , the idea of immigration, even in terms of Illegal Immigrants, for medicaid there is a five year wait for Illegal Immigrants. Be anye not supposed to undocumented immigrants in medicaid. For the exchanges, there is not a five year wait for Illegal Immigrants. There are not supposed to be any undocumented immigrants getting coverage through the exchange. Host evelyn has been waiting. Line for democrats. Caller good morning. How much money does the Health Care Industry at large spend annually on political contributions at the state and federal level . What impact would it have on premium reductions if congress were to pass a law to prohibit political contributions from the Health Care Industry . Host thanks for the question. Guest i dont have that number offhand. It would be interesting. They do spend a lot of money. I dont ever see a ban on lobbying. Protected in the first amendment. I think it would be popular. They dont like the idea of that. Like i said before, there is a cap on the Amount Health Insurance Companies can spend on medical expenses versus other costs. Pharma is one of the biggest contributors in terms of Campaign Donations and in terms of influence spending. Other components of the Health Insurance industry as well. I do think she is right to point out there are these caps in what can be spent. They are very influential. Are very in particular influential. We hear the president talking about how Drug Companies are getting away with murder. Then we dont see any real action on that issue. Host rick am independent. Good morning. Tv have to turn down your when you call in. Steve. Line for republicans. Guest good morning. Caller good morning. I just want to give you our situation here in maryland. My wife and i are Small Business owners. We do a million and a half in sales. Small business does make up 70 of the work force in america. Several million are in a position. A premium for my family is 1600 a month. People sayingout millions may lose their coverage , or may be affected, i am paying. I dont have coverage. Ive already lost coverage. I would love to have it but i cant afford it. It is frustrating for people who dont pay, they get so much protection and folks like myself with 17 employees are in the position we are in. Host thanks for calling in. Guest sounds like the caller has an obamacare plan. Back to the issue, portability. That sounds like an unaffordable plan if it is 13,000 for a family. That is a huge frustration. The deductibles are too high. Whether congress is going to be able to address that seems out of reach right now. It seems to be one of the chief criticisms. This goes to the issues we talked about, people are concerned about costs, concerned about coverage. They want to make Health Care Affordable for themselves. Making coverage affordable will i hate to use the word risk pool but if you have healthier people buying in insurance that makes it healthier for everybody. Adams and jennifer habercorn. Always appreciate the time. Please come back again. Reid we will be joined by wilson to talk about his changing america series which takes a look at social and Economic Trends impacting the electorate. Well be right back. Close your eye, i see you. Trust me, empathy. I want you to stretch your imaginations. Open your eyes. Fast it happens. Warning. Nk, no sunday night on q a, executive director of paralyzed veterans of america and retired officer talks ps about his own paralysis and his paralyzed vets. Im trying to tell them, this a the problem, this is from policy perspective, advocates to pective, you have v. A. Yself, it will make ideal for veterans. Sunday night on 8 eastern on q a. Ns sunday night on after words. Sexual harassment cases end in settlement. What does that mean . Means the woman never works in her chosen career ever again never talk about it, shes gagged. Sexual do we solve harassment suit . We put in arbitration clauses in Employment Contracts which make it a secret proceeding. Ever finds out if you file a complaint, you can never talk about it, ever. Know what is happened to you and you are also terminated from the company and the cases is left y to work in the same position he was harassing you. The way our society as decided to resolve Sexual Harassment cases, to gag women everyone outn feel here we can come so far in 2017. Gretchen carlson is interviewed by Washington Post sally quinn. Watch after words on cspans book t. V. Washington journal continues. Host reid wilson is a familiar cspan viewers, hes National Correspondent at the newspaper, he spent much of the recent months on his series. America what did you set out to find when you started the series six dozen stories ago . Guest well, taking a look at election, residential i like many others were surprise at a lot of results in several states. We sut out to figure out why the happened and in process, what the last 2025 years of american politics have been like. You can tell the story through data publicly available through the u. S. Census bureau or bureau of economic analysis, Government Agencies nobody Pay Attention they produce cool data that shows changing america, hows pulling apart between urban america and Rural America, a rising millennial generation the world one way and an aging babyboomer generation the world another way and how that impacts their votes and the outcomes of elections. This wasnt just 2016, these trends have been happening for years in some cases and theyre going to impact the of 20, 30, 40 years politics. Host let our viewers know, if seriest to check out the available at hill. Com, you started the series focus og county, minnesota, why . Guest swift county is one of forget how many counties, couple hundred countys that voted for president obama twice voted democratic for 40 or 50 years and then switched to in for President Trump 2016. How is it that a trump voter had the past . Obama in how is it a obama fan switches President Trump . Counties like swift county made this election. In minnesota is the state that voted democratic for the longest state in the u. S. And yet in 2016, Hillary Clinton won by 45,000 votes, that is really close, it is going to be a swing 2020 and beyond. And swift county is a county hours west of the minneapolis, st. Paul area. Hub of agriculture, of manufacturing and then the the private and prison that employed 300 people down and nty closed Unemployment Rate spiked by 2 for a ht, massive spike small county that relyos some of he services and their votes have changed. These are people who praditionally voted democratic connection to the Democratic Party nationally. Elect a they democratic was it surprising to you to go and look at the data and polarized we were . Guest no, in that all one has o do is watch our political campaigns these days, but what surprised me most is the polarization that has happened economy. As we take a look after the recession, the big american have boomed and american metropolitan areas are now the economy,f the national they produce most of the goods overseas, es exported they produce a huge percentage and e national g. D. P. Produce huge percentage of jobs america. In Rural America, is still suffering, trying to recover recession. In fact, you can make the case a lot of smaller counties have for 15 years ion essentially. Consider the fact that of the in red largest counties america, 97 of them have gained population over the last five ears, the only three that havent, one in connecticut, etroit and toledo, ohio, the rust belt areas that have suffered lost population. 1500 county necessary america with fewer than 25,000 eople, twothirds lost population in the last five years, there is exodus out of ural america, new jobs are not coming in, the manufacturing of plants that closed during inession were overwhelmingly those parts of america and they are still struggling to recover. O there is sort of longterm spiral in Rural America that it is hard to see how they pull out of. You mentioned 2020, if you had a chance after this with the sit down Democratic National committee and the Republican National committee, what lessons would ou say they need to learn looking forward . Guest the democrats have a emographic advantage and geographic disadvantage. Big are doing better among urban cores. Hillary clinton, top 25 county necessary america, hillary 3 million more votes than barack obama did in 2012, that is remarkable and she lost. On the other hand, though, the geographic problems democrats their voters are confined to small areas, especially in he battle to control the house of representatives, that means theyve got a geographic they are not reaching voter necessary exurban district like dents or rykers district in washington state, districts they house. Win back the republicans have a geographic advantage, they have, they with voter necessary more rural, exurban areas and geographic ve the edge, while theyve got a demographic disadvantage. Older, ters are getting ogenous than hom ever before. It works great when you are rying to win a district, works worse when you are winning a Congressional District or senate seat in a big state. Considering in california right now, the last senate election, made it through to the general election, there are in statewide offices up 2018, everything from governor executive statewide offices to u. S. Senate seat. There are dozens of democrats seats, not a single serious republican running for the seats. N a big, megastate, disadvantage that republicans face, they have to find a way to who dont ew voters look like them and democrats have to appeal to voters who had and were ally doing well with until the last voters movedn those more to the republican side. Host want to invite viewers to wilson, hill reid newspaper. Phone numbers, republicans, 2027488001. Democrats, 2027488000. Independents, 2027488002. With us for the next 20 to 25 minutes this morning on the washington journal, about his changing america series, fascinating series with a lot of data, great maps. It is all available on our website, on the hills website, hill. Com, you can call in now, get your questions in just a second. To ask another example. The more fascinating parts of focus on individual communities counties. Tell me about king county texas. Uest im from king county washington, there could not be ore different, king county washington is where seattle is, king county texas is a county in panhandle that once gave Lyndon Johnson 75 of the vote. This time around Hillary Clinton got five votes there, not 5 of vote, five votes, its a tiny rural community. During theing we did series, looked at the shift in vote pattern from 2000 election the twe2016 election, pretty similar. The end with thirdparty candidates who significant ably role. You can see in our map of texas, counties of those outside of sort of urban cores, to theifted dramatically right in recent years and that voting hat they are not just against the democratic arty, but against the sense of cultural elitism that tends, voters tend to feel outside of cores. That urban rural divide is just fascinating and evident entire country, the blue counties effectively red counties uer, are getting reader and it anifest necessary king county texas, democratic nominee gets just five votes. Harrisburg, kentucky, sonya up first with reid wilson. You for takingnk my call. I just want to point out the donald trump and the of people voting own, economic completely news. Something that is from reality. Ent thank you. Guest well, were in the same news is, but fox i wont give them all the credit know, but the fact is there are people who vote against their economic interests sides. H you know, there are a lot of millionaires who would benefit rom big tax cuts and vote democratic and a lot of people who receive benefits from the voted ble care act, who republican. What was interesting to see in his series, though, is that it appears that the culture wars are alive and well. Year, i think as little is because weve been in economic recovery for seven concernedple are less with the economy than they were 2012 or 2014, there was a sense things had gotten better, now we get to fight other things, the things we fought about were things then weredate trump and clinton talking about. The immigration system, what it to be an american, where our place is in this country forward. And that gets to the sort of sense of cultural elitism versus Rural America and making america reat again, that i think a lot of voters cast ballots on. Alive and er issue well during the election was the trade issue. What did you learn about trade country . Guest this is funny, voters, speaking of voting against interest, smaller Rural Communities especially midwest re most trade dependent communities in the country. They export higher perceptage of comes from the stuff they export. Of like my hometown seattle, has exports a lot more, but it is a smaller portion of g. D. P. Than say columbus, indiana. Of mbus, indiana, the home ummins, they export, they account for Something Like 50 of columbuss g. D. P. , most of is exports. Unny to me, too, because this administration has promised to renegotiate nafta, renegotiate rade deals all over the world and therefore, threatening our current trade relations and the a place like columbus, ironic, which is columbus is the hometown of mike pence, the Vice President of the United States. Aller i was administrator in the Bush Administration, but retired. I just want to say that it is message that you give to the people, too. Actually how fired up the that. Is or whatever like the Republican Base or the Democratic Base or independent , send their r a clearout saying, give message and a good clear message the reason yes they could be the better candidate, i think is the proper thing, proper way to go. Host can i ask you before you of administrator were you . Aller i was a regular army iistrator and i took up went to accountability, whatever ike that, of soldiers or whatever, thats it. Guest elroy makes a good call, president ial campaigns and servants to are their own base. This day and age, these two president ial campaigns good examplewere a tohow they, each side worked speak to its own base, much more so than to speak to a middle. Ble consider toned donneds message make America Great again, the again was not an accident they put that in there. He was appealing to base that america that has changed, is changing dramatically and may not like a lot of that change. Hillary clinton on the other hand talked about forward together. That is a much more socially liberal, inclusive message and driven by the Democratic Party, in the urban far more e people are socially liberal than they ever idea of and where the a transgender bathroom ban is offensive n. Rural america, the idea of transgender ban makes total sense or not applicable to somebodys world. Ence in the both of those types of issues created two parties that spoke to their base than to any kind of persuadable middle. Polarization, pew has done good work on this and found over that a higher percentage of democrats and side, icans see the other not just in unfavorable light but deeply unfavorable. Are more anxious about what the other party is going to do, fearful about the other party, start from a position of mistrusting the other side, do a omes impossible to deal on capitol hill or to have a conversation about where the future. In host when did the mistrust start . Ssuming not in the 2016 election . Guest no, rising for a couple decades. That show at numbers about 15 of democrats and republicans were fearful of the party back in 1994. Today it is about 60 of democrats and republicans, how similar those two numbers are. Thet 610 partisans believe other side is doing something harmful to america, and that spiked during the Bush Administration and obama administration, democrats turned bush. Republicans turned on obama and more than th in unfavorable light. They begin in place of mistrusting people that would happened whether or not clinton or trump won this election, trump won and democrats, we now see democrats acting in a way that way tea party he reacted to president obama in erms of openly protesting and demanding their party on capitol hill not make compromises and if you do make a compromise, it is a compromise with a bad person. Ere in a real bad place in terms of trusting each other in politics. Anthony, h carolina, line for democrats. Caller how you doing, good morning, mr. Od wilson. I would like to piggyback on truste just said, it is a issue going on. The way it started was donald a clever campaign. What he did was he took whatever candidates had, ran with it and usedhem kicked out the strategy to put his spin on it and that is how he won that. The candidate, like mr. Wilson said, it is a trust issue obama and d from bush, whereas now they are filibuster ed to whatever obama wanted to do, so t is just trickling on down to the next candidate. Never going to get a trust issue. Guest that is pretty well summed up, i find it hard to see get out of the spiral of mistrust. There was a generation of politicians, you know, joe biden and Mitch Mcconnell could go in come out and talk about how great the deal was hey just struck and the next generation, president obama and outker boehner or ryan come and talk about how this wasnt a perfect deal and nobody got what they wanted. It sort of to fix our politics, we have to get back to he point about where you brag about what you got rather than what you didnt get. Electoralou think the college is broken, the reason for having the Electoral College. Well, back when the country was founded, the founders thought it would be have one final check on the voters. The founders didnt voters and the masses to country and so they instituted this Electoral College. Though, resting thing, back then, members of the Electoral College were the elite, governors or senators or members of congress, that. S like insiders. Today the actual members of the lectoral college are Party Activists and local guys who on the most doors and the way they are rewarded, they are Electoral College formal ballot a in the capitol or have a boxed lunch or Something Like that. Not exactly the same, but its clearly a legacy, the ounders did not trust asses to elect the person that elect a reasonable president. Host you think it remains after twe2016 election, more push to get rid of the Electoral College . Guest there may be a push, but high, rdles are so Electoral College gives benefits gives them tates, power in selecting a president. Smaller states have two senators each. South dakota as many senators as alifornia, why would the senators vote to diminish their power . Ratifyld the Legislature Constitutional amendment, vote to diminish power . Host ann arbor, michigan, ahead. Y, go caller hello. Host go ahead, stanley. Would argue that culturally and i dont think it is bicoastal, it nd that it had its beginnings 22nd, y in on january 973, when the Supreme Court made abortion a legal right at stages of gestation. Continued. A turally elitism is really top down way of governing and is most prevalent within the democrat party. So the idea that they know how people should live to do to hey need support the government and what the way to give up in of freedom so that the government can thrive. Take on what culture elitism is. Guest let me broaden this out a little bit and well talk about these communities have covered and i think it to not just cultural elitism, but the fact bicoastal the corridor on the east coast and some big megacities down the east coast and the entire west coast, has recovered a lot better than of america. With a few exceptions of big and metros like Houston Dallas and places like that. During the recession, there were banks that mmunity closed. In as new jobs are created majority of new jobs are created by new businesses. Gains innsider net job the last year, 85 of the three illion jobs created came from new businesses. Those new businesses are restaurants and dry cleaners and Grocery Stores and minimarts and places like that. That we all panies like to talk about. Older companies tend to stream line, newer companies tend to build up, build new jobs. When Community Banks go out of Community Hat robs a of the financing for a new business, for a new restaurant, cleaners, ry Something Like that. You are not going to have bank 20,000 to a nding new dry cleaner to set up shop, bank of community whatever city you are in very well might and theyll be able business to a new keep them afloat during the tough, early years. When the Community Banks go out business, local communities have a harder and harder time establishing new jobs and making some kind of recovery. On the other hand, bigger bank ecessary big cities are generating new jobs. Jobsen we consider the new created since the end of the ecession, the nearly majority have come just five big metro miami, los york, angeles, dallas and houston, i think are the other two. Of these new jobs are coming in just a small number of cities, where they financing. E it is funny something as small a the Economic Health of Community Bank can have a big impact on the Economic Future of america and therefore exacerbate the gap between it is coast citiesd west doing really well and middle of america that is struggling. Petersburg, virginia, line for democrats, go ahead. Going to say just about how people voted interests their own because republicans have a great that really chine asnt told the truth n. Fox like nd they never kneeling at the football game, social injustice, police brutality, but they want flag and about the rump exploits the purpose of the Football Players kneeling flag ke it about the instead of acknowledging it was because ice brutality he wants to make it a police thing. Host reid wilson, what do you debate about the n. F. L. Protest . Guest everything is political these days. Increasing out partisanship of our partisans strongly that the other guys are doing something bad for the country, harmful for country. That has trickled down into life, spect of american whether its facebook put out a reat set of data a few years ago when american sniper was up for an Academy Award and they counties, people rooting for one particular film o win an award favored basically every other nominee other than american sniper. Counties preferred american sniper. He oscars have become political. But even rooting for which best icture you want to win is a political statement. It doesnt surprise me that our sports are becoming more political. Should say, this all comes fter a decade and a half in which people have grown increasingly mistrustful of our it is the s, whether church or the Banking System and the recession housing bubble bursting, clearly voters have t negative opinion of every country figure in the tochlt our sports, the last, ost famous athletes of the decade of the between 2000 and twe 2010, Lance Armstrong and barry bonds, admitted cheaters. Distrust our institutions even more and they become popular tlit cal, that makes sense. Host what about the institution of unions in this country, what them . Ou learn about guest i sat down with a couple Union Leaders who admitted their to control and control is the wrong word, ability to persuade members to Democratic Party is waning because those members re declining rapidly and the number of workers represented by a labor union has been in 50 or 60 years now, een a very long time. And in 2016, Hillary Clinton got still majority, but pretty narrow majority of Union Household voters, especially in places ike michigan and ohio and wisconsin. The states that she lost had blue wall, of the states that voted democratic in the last six president ial elections, this time around, the states cracked in part, not in union but because of voters and working class white oters have abandoned the Democratic Party and by the way, they have also been following union as their republicanled state legislature necessary wisconsin and michigan chipped away at membership ower, at rules and right to work laws and things like that. And you can impact see the number of members of the in n falling nearly in half wisconsin over the last decade or so. Iowa, g precipitously in in michigan, what do the states have in problem . Democratic in last several elections and now voted republican. Host reid wilson with the hill newspaper, trying to get to a few more calls before you have to run. In california, republican, good morning. Caller good morning. Yes. Changes in g about ur country and the papers recently said population is onefifth immigrants and minor but when you throw in their grown children, immigrants of their offspring are 25 our population. Of course, weve 1960 or brunt of that, doubled. Population has k12 is now 54 hispanic, which means mexican and us 30 billion a year. Feinstein in 1995, senate, the the california was an immigration disaster. Of course shes changed her surpass whitecans californians. Reid wilson. Guest california is one of a handful of states and i think it is four states now majorityminority, hawaii is one goingm, too, as is im to screw up if i try to list them all, but not entirely that those immigration statistics were correct, but this is a big fault line in politics, this sort of onsider the question of immigration is the tip of a very large iceberg about what america be s like, what it means to an american and these are sort of the fundamental questions we asking during the 2016 campaign. Together and d make America Great again, you could not have two more messages about what the shape of the country looks and immigrants play a huge role. A ties are now massively growing segment of the electorate. Had a kid last year and last year was first year he will be a minority. More nonwhite children born in the u. S. For the first time in merican history than white children, 49. 9 to 50. 1 or Something Like that, that change people and of provides hope to a lot of people. Take a look at Something Like standard poll question, do you think the country is headed on the right track or in wrong direction, or to you think your kids will have a better life than you do, the divide is remarkable. African americans and hispanics say the likely to country is headed in the right trekz or they were when was in office or their kids will have a better life than they did because the people answering the polls are experienced a lot of discrimination in their lives. Their kid will have a slightly life, at least hopefully a lot better, and among white kids , they think their are not going to have a better life than they did and that is lot of well, a reasons, but some of those reasons include they are in a of economically depressed areas where the new jobs arent coming back, where are their going to have a new job . Might have to move to a big city away from their parents. The bottom line, immigration, demographics of america have unsettled the electorate for a very long time on both sides and it is something that were going to be dealing with come. Long time to host get to tea in maryland, line for democrats. Go ahead. Caller good morning. I want to give you context. I was one of the few people that campaigned heavily for obama in the first election. Election, i cond thought it would be a landslide, a lot of people were nervous, out, it wassult came landslide. I live in d. C. , work in dc and i going to winmp was and when the result came back and trump won, a lots of people thinking maybe i knew something, i told them, im a math teacher, this is just math crunching the numbers a long time ago. Im glad you mentioned and aphical divide democratic divide. Ive tried to call the d. N. C. , committee, tried to call the house to kind of give them insight of what it actually do because there is no reason why the whole map of the United States, if we have on our side, no reason why all of those states cannot be blue, but the problem like you said, people concentrated and if i had to get look, o understand that, if you only get College Student currently in red state, if you them a republican to stay in that state and register to state, that alone could change the house. That, a lot of state guess out of state to go to college, registered in blue state and come back. The call, ciate running out of time. Give reid wilson a chance to comment. A fundamental thing both parties are struggling with. 60 he United States, about of americans turn out to vote during president ial election, pretty much te of every western democracy during leadership election. Parties are focused on trying to turn out their own think if both i sides had done or if the democrats had done just a little in 20science, they would have won, if the republicans had 2012 or ter in 2014 or 2010, they would have won the u. S. Senate, maybe a cycle or Something Like that. American politics is all about mobilization, turning out your people, become less and less about persuasion, persuading to choosen the middle your side because the middle is getting smaller and smaller. Hardening, we are polarizing as a nation, geographically in the communities where we live. This is a longterm problem, i hink that is what the sort of conclusion of this whole series has been is we are in a place are being olitics driven by demonizing the other make nd that is going to governing much harder in the come. And decades to host check out the series, changing america series on the hill. Com. Want to follow reid wilson on twitter, at politics reid. Thanks. Guest sorry to end on pessimistic note. End with open phones on washington journal. Any Public Policy issues, phone open. Are line for republicans, democrats, independents, as usual. Well be ing now, right back. Cspan, where history unfolds daily. Created as aan was Public Service by americas Cable Television companies and you today by your cable or satellite provider. Sunday night on after words. Harassment of sexual cases end up in settlement. What does that mean . Means the woman never work necessary her chosen career ever gain and she can never talk about it. Shes gagged. Ow how else do we solve Sexual Harassment suit . We put in arbitration clause necessary Employment Contracts it a secret proceeding, again, nobody finds youif you file a complaint, can never talk about it ever. Nobody ever knows what happened in most cases, you are terminated from the company and the predator in many cases work in the ill same position in which he was harassing you. Our society e way as decided to resolve Sexual Harassment cases, to gag women can fool everyone else that we are come so far in 2017. Gretchen carlson talks about exual harassment in her new book, shes interviewed by Washington Post columnist sally quinn. Night, ter words sunday 9 eastern on cspan 2s book t. V. Washington journal continues. Host open phones on the washington journal until 10 00, when we end today. Republicans can call at 2027488001. 2027488000. Independents, 2027488002. Any Public Policy issue you want to discuss. Want to update you, we talked earlier in the show about federal judge in hawaii blocking President Trumps third try at his travel ban, more news from front from the Washington Post. A second federal judge, in today, issued ier a halt on the latest version of the president s travel ban the president s own comments on the campaign trail onvinced him the directive was akin to unconstitutional muslim ban. The Washington Post notes that u. S. District judge chang issued somewhat less complete order on his counterpart in hawaii did yesterday, blocking dministration from enforcing the directive on those who lacked bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the such as family members or some type of professional or other engagement United States. The ruling was personal cutting o trump, the president s own words cast latest attempt to impose travel blockade as inextrickable reanimation of the muslim band. Quote, unquote, from the Washington Post. That is the latest on that front, we want to hear what you want to talk about this morning on the washington journal. Phone lines are yours. Republicans, 2027488001. Emocrats, 2027488000, independents, 2027488002. Greg is up first in palm springs, california, democrat. Good morning. Caller yes, good morning to you. On basically k talk about what the gentleman ust spoke on and it is the largest wedge issue host largest wedge issue in what, greg . Greg. Nk we lost gabriel, illinois, line for independents, go ahead. Thanks for having me on. You know, i had a comment since talking democratsrepublicans, both of important miss issues, specifically like lets alk health care, that is my kind of specialty. Talks about ne pharma, t laws with medical schools, you know, what they are teaching. Very kind of narrow. Drinking the we cant address antitrust because right away in arms and we say, this is health care and this is what is going to keep us health and he blah, blah, blah. Ctually its very narrow perspective, we got to talk mandated word is benefits there is mandated benefits or some people call insurance coverage, whatever you call it, it is what is paid for, okay. What is paid for is all monopoly. Look into alternative stuff. Cuba, they do acupuncture, herbs, yoga, okay, and then the most important, look to ustralia, because usually people talk about canada, but it is australia, they are the ones acupuncture, they know not narrow like we are. Got your point. Republican, go ahead. Caller hey, sir, i just called to inquire what the travel ban, just wondering, the judges are so political now. Court, didnt the supreme just slap them down . Rafael,atin, may name is we all dont think alike. I wish you guys wouldnt put a and say we speak to all latins. I tell you what, we are very different from every different culture, thank you. Host not sure we put people up ere and say they speak for all people of one culture or another, appreciate the call. In abilene, texas. Republican, go ahead. Caller yes. I just wanted to say, i heard this morning s about the a. C. A. And how great all that. It wasnt great, it never beat and it will great. It is because of government is period. Ing our health, constitutional a republ government d our doesnt control everything all and people think they do health care and extra stuff, right. F this stuff is all you have freedom of speech, the right to vote, things like that, but you dont ave, nobody has freedom of health care. If you want held health care, ou get health care, you dont have the government pay for it. We are paying for so much now, everybody is broke. Is what it is from, aying for all this stuff that we cant afford because the government is controlling it and President Trump is trying to do. Host marty in texas. On t of discussion washington journal about health care, especially in the ake of the deal that was announced yesterday on Health Bipartisan group of enior senators, murray, alexander, and the chairman of the health, education and pension committee. In todayse headline wall street journal, Bipartisan Health bill gains release er that yesterday. Although President Trump that in water on comments on twitter this morning aying, im supportive of Lamar Alexander as a person and of the process, but i can never support ailing out Insurance Companies who have made a fortune with obamacare. Resident latest twitter comments on that deal. Part of that deal having to do with the payments ng reduction that the president ended on this deal st week, would stabilize payments for two years and other changes, as in the deal. Well see how that plays out and reaction to the president s comments today. Lynnngreenwood, indiana, independent, good morning. Morning, how are you . Host doing well. Hear me . Re you able to host yes, maam, go ahead. Caller my question is in im ds to health care, disabled in home health care. A and b, icare parts ualify for medicaid, but i and im e over 900 pts, tim of fire, tornado, it throws me in a category of mental and im denied ike mamograms, basic fundamental health care, you inhome comes en in, i guess it is an open muscle , i have brain oss, too, so if i skip around, that would be the reason for it. Host can i ask you, what would you in this process as you watch this Health Care Debate . My confusion is with in, what is their response, i was told i was going to die. Im unable to hear your response. Okay, lynn, i dont know much about that topic. Up,preciate you bringing it something we can look to in a health egment, inhome care and requirementos that. Good luck, appreciate the call this morning. Freda, chicago, illinois, line for democrats up next on open phones. Morning. I, good host good morning. Caller can you hear me . Host yes, maam. Caller hi. The right to work laws, im not truly or rstanding that idea concept and also, is it a way as to try to get rid of the labor unions, because im not truly concept . Ding that host freda, are you a Supporter Union ns and are you a family . Caller yes, i am. Host how is that worked out for family . Your not r well, thus far really what i had anticipated, ut at the same time, with this right to work law, im not really understanding if that is get rid of all unions, meaning that either you for my and work company, but im not going to provide you the protection that union would provide, is that the concept of it . Freda, i will point you to some segments we had on right to in the country for probably the best answers on that, when you said be nothing a union family wasnt exactly what i expected, explain that to me, that . Did you mean by caller right. Meaning that i pretty much thought that by me being in the paying union dues that totally pretty much like protected, but i found out, it. That was not nd i was pretty much just amazed and truly not understanding that concept, all. S i want to get more clarification i had always ause thought that if youre in a union and youre paying your job is pretty much protected as long as pretty much adhere to your jobs rules and regulations, but what im it is not g is that really working out that way, that is all. Freda, had a seg oment washington journal, talked about right to work laws, the forcingion aimed at not people to join unions, forcing people to pay union dues. Go back to the cspan archives to learn about that cspan. Org, whether it happened on the show today or here day or 30 years ago on cspan, you can find all of our coverage available there at cspan video archives, the 30th anniversary year. Jerry in california, a republican. Good morning. Caller yes, good morning. Firsttime caller. Love cspan. Your earlier caller talked about turning every state blue in the would states, i wished he think about that, i wish anybody else out there would think about that really would not be accuracratic republic anymore. That is my only comment. Appreciate you. Thank you. Host jim is in rockhill, new independent, good morning. Caller good morning, sir. On the o make a comment tax bill that is coming up, the rates and whatax the president wants to do and i want everybody to know out the middle ially class because it is not put out there very often, they are doing exemption, rsonal that is 4050 per person in your now have that you will to pay taxes on if that is five 22,200, hat is four50 by the number of peep and he will now that could from the by dropping 15 to 12 , but i would kind of doubt that. A very find yourself in bad position if that personal exemption is done away with. On the tax front, news yesterday out of capitol hill, the white houses push for cuts made with Washington Post calls crucial progress esterday as Senate Republicans rally behind Budget Proposal the party needs to pass to keep enacting sharp cuts in tax rates this year. Senate Republican Leaders earned victories yesterday, first with senator cochran, a republican, and with the announcement from senator john mccain of arizona, he would back the bundlet resolution to help passage of the tax cut. Hopeful publicans are they can agree on final budget resolution, key procedural step help them pass a tax plan this year without relying on when the r Democrats Senate comes in, it comes in 9 30 this morning, that budget the fiscal 2018 resolution will be the topic of discussion today. Watch that on cspan 2. West , charleston, virginia, line for democrats. Go ahead. Aller hello, yeah, i was atching a few days ago and you had the socalled i say the christian rights because talking about health care, a lot of people talking they were h care and supposed to be christians. Problem with that is christians do not want to take Health Care Away from people. Help people. Christians, they do not want all this fighting, if christians. They cant call themselves all this and have diviciveness and wanting to take Health Care Away. I dont understand it. Ost go ahead, finish your thought, shelly. Caller im fine, thats it. Host william in kenner, for republicans, go ahead. Caller yes, good morning. Good morning. Caller im veteran and im the top for one of major Trucking Industry carrier. Ost one of the top trucking carriers, did you say . Caller yes. There since king about 20 years and talking about we got to start at frame 1 before we can get anything fixed. Talking about cutting this, cutting that, the government carriers thatt of i see a lot of people come hrough the doors and they always left in six months, a lot of abuse, corporate welfare been going on for a long time. Im tired of seeing this. Are some examples of that for someone who is note as amiliar with the Trucking Industry . Caller just a lot of abuse and that even cut off the driver trucks, putting far as governme government corporation. And that is what you call welfare, that is where the abuse is at. Got to correct a lot of this before we can move forward. Louisiana, this morning. Five minutes left before we take ou up to the senate for a Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing on the oversight of the ustice department, featuring the attorney general Jeff Sessions testifying this morning, so time for a few more calls. To update you on other news around the world. Focus ign policy front, on several of the papers today in the liberation of the Islamic State held city of rakka, here is a double truck plenty of pictures from the New York Times today rakka, in astation in the wake of that liberation, the from the ead about is washington times, noting that tuesdays liberation of the state selfproclaimed yrian capital of rakka represents High Water Mark of the u. S. Led coalition against isis, rorist group, washington and iraq and syria began the rollback of the gain ago, raqqa was one of the first metropolitan areas Islamic State he banner in Northern Iraq and been spiritual home and main hub for executing attacks globe. The the story we read from the washington times, the picture from the New York Times today. To your calls in open phone segment of the washington journal. Midland, texas, good morning. Domingo, you there . Caller hello. Hollanded go ahead, sir. Caller okay. Know, for people listening, cannot achieve increase greatness, investing printed propertym intellectual n all these Medicare Medicaid recipients who receive money or these this money on investing money on politicians. On this st you know, about havescernible] that you becomered, america would great. Host all right. Line , lansing, michigan, for democrats, go ahead. Caller what is going on, man. Quick question. Bet based on a theory, might wonderingto you, just provoke a trying to war with the king he can t a so initiate martial law to separate start a martial law of coalition can, military coalitions that are forming around the country . Marcus . Hat do you think, what do you think . Caller um, well, i think that point, you g at this know. That is just a theory ive come p with, i dont want to start any alarms, because if that was bells e, you know, hey, are ringing, i would like to spark the alarm. But gary in right, pennsylvania, republican, just a minute or two left before we to the Senate Judiciary committee. Caller make couple quick comments. Thanks for taking my call. Comment onl, a quick antifa, they are fascists, if somebody, agree with they wont let them talk, why isnt the news media reporting that. Second on gun control issue, in las vegas, the horrible shooting the monstrous murderer that killed people with guns, several that, look at is chicago, chicago has more gun ontrol laws on the books than any other city, how is that working out for them . Its not effective at all. Not the gun that kills the in le, the people that guy vegas would have taken like a big truck like the one used in massacre and ity filled it with fuel and it, we e sxer detonated would have more deaths than 58 in vegas. Host gary is the last caller. Well be back tomorrow morning, live to the ou Senate Judiciary committee on the senate side of capitol hill, today entitled oversight of u. S. Justice today, the witness attorney general Jeff Sessions