Plus couldnt your vote in the upcoming election be influenced by something completely fake we are seeing Artificial Intelligence or ai show up in Campaign Ads on social media, even Robo Calls to voters trying to he convince you a candidate said something or did something that never happened. Tonight, were digging into the technology and the Warning Signs and leading this Hour Tomorrow marks one month until election day. And today, former President Donald Trump is in georgia, a state. He won in 2016 and barely lost in 2020 while Vice President Kamala Harris is in michigan, a state that trump won in 2016, but biden flipped in 2020. Lets go to cnns Eva Mckend in flint, michigan. Eva, this will be the second Event Today for Vice President Kamala Harris in michigan how worried is the Harris Campaign about whats going on on the ground there are concerned about michigan. Are the other Battleground States. What strategy here era of american voters here today. And now this. Rally is going to be worker focus. Labor focus, the Vice President when attack the former president. And Jd Vance, for refusing to commit to support federal funding for a Gm Plant in lansing. Now, that is a very specific, critique, but a party that she hopes will resonate in this crowd. Thats because the Inflation Reduction Act included a 500,000,000 grant for electric vehicles. And we know that the former precedent Jd Vance, has been very critical of those policies, but she will argue tonight and his goals policies, the protected hundreds of jobs in this state. So they hope that economic message resonates here. We know that michigan is thats going to be one on the margins. And that the Organizing Strength in this room among unions, labor is going to be vital. Jake alrighty you have a candidate in flint, michigan. Thanks so much. Donald trump is in the critical Battleground State of georgia, where just moments ago he received a briefing on the damage caused by Hurricane Helene. Trump narrowly lost the Peach State to President Biden in 2020 by To Show Trump and Vice President harris locked in a very tight contest. The highlight, just how important it is for trump to flip georgia read and just 32 days it is one of the few swing states. Republicans outspent democrats on Campaign Ads by nearly halfamillion dollars. Todays event is also the first time that trump in Georgia Governor Brian kemp, who is a republican, have appeared together in public since trump started attacking the popular republican governor following the last election, trumps beef, of course, that Georgias Governor has stood with his States Election officials and the voters of georgia and refused to help trump overturn the 2020 election. Heres a reminder of what trump said about camp. Just a few months ago atlanta is like a Killing Field and you had governor ought to get off his and do something about it. Its very disloyal person isnt dave . Very disloyal . Fell hes the most loyal guy. I think ive ever seen and youll do a lot better with a better governor hes a bad guy. Hes a disloyal guy, and hes a very average governor. Later, brian, little. Brian bad Guy Panel so Today Trump was asked about his relationship with the governor, matt. And here is heres what he had to say. Its great. No, no, no, its great. Now, we work together. Weve always worked together very well very i really well so i think i know whats changed. Well, why dont you tell us theyre saying kumbaya, we have we going to let you in 35 days. Thats thats what thats whats really changed. I mean, look i think Jd Vance was instrumental in trying to bridge this gap that alarmed a lot of republican. Lindsey graham helped a lot too, by the way. Theres got people, but it alarmed a lot of republicans last month when he went off script like that or would be on script are waiving or call it at that rally. And they knew they needed to get everybody on the same page. Look, im a jets fan. I spent the last week moaning and groaning by our team, the head coach, sunday at nine 30 in london, you put the jersey odd because you got you got to go when same thing here. So former President Trump was also asked if he agrees with remarks from President Biden, who said today in the white House Briefing Room that the election will be fair but hes not sure if it will be peaceful. We talked about this last panel about thats understandable given what happened on January 6 and last election listen to what trump had to say i dont know anything about what he said. I only can hope that its going to be free and fair. And i think in this stated will be and i hope in every state it will be and i think were going to do very well. But right now were focused on this were not focused on the election i think its interesting that in his comment even just now, he equates free and fair to doing well, that all was said in the same sentence. And i think thats the concern that biden raised in his comments. Thats the concern that a lot of people, democrats, even many republicans have said that they dont trust that if trump loses in close states like georgia, that he will allow the results of the election to stand and, you know, they are concerned about another January 6 or something else similar i mean, look, i think the irony is that Donald Trump is saying that in georgia, when this is, this was Ground Zero really of where he tried to steal the Election And Co. And have a conspiracy with republicans. The good thing and in 2020, as you had brad raffensperger, the Secretary Of State and Brian Kemp stopping it saying no oh hes only being nice to Brian Kemp because hes hoping that Brian Kemp wont have the moral courage to stand up for democracy and let the voters to decide if on January 6, this comes down to the exact same scenario. He goes back to being little brian again, like Donald Trump said, he goes back to being called names. So you could put the jersey on but trumps Georgia Herzi is only it only says Donald Trump. It doesnt say the jets, it doesnt say america doesnt say democracy. It says trump, and thats it. You want to weigh in on that, but youre also assuming that Donald Trumps going to lose the state, which is not necessarily the case. I mean, i think you look there are driven to do Triage Mode right now the Harris Campaign, theyre going back to state where i think they thought they were a little stronger than they were in terms of michigan as you talked about but in the last segment, and weve gone from where harris is really going to be focused on pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia Running up there. Theyre having to kind of shore up that blue wall. So right now, theyre back on their heels a little bit agreed the election is going to be close. There, a Battleground States that is for sure the question is do you only allow, do you only agree with the Election Results when your Team Wins . Thats where were talking about, not just winners and losers split americas democracy. Yeah, its worth reminding people that the election was very, very close in North Carolina in 2020 that state had a democratic governor. But trump won and so all of a sudden, there were no claims of fraud. The Harris Campaign is out today with a new Campaign Ad touting her endorsements from a number of people that might be unexpected. National security officials, republican congresswoman liz cheney. Heres part of it. This year i am proudly casting my vote for Vice President Kamala Harris and former general secretaries of Defense Secretaries of the army, navy, and air force, cia directors and National Security Council Leader under democratic and republican president s, republican can members of congress and even former Trump Administration officials agree theres only one Candidate Fit to lead our nation and Kamala Harris for a Swing Voter in a Battleground State, could that be effective . Maybe but the biden team just stepped all over that message it proverbially when it came literally coming out two minutes after Kamala Harris took the stage, but also this divide between the biden campaign, the Harris Campaign, talking about democracy was central the biden campaign. It hasnt been for the harris chris campaign. So youre stepping all over this message and economic message by talking about January 6, which harris doesnt want it to a yes, it is effective and thats why theyre running it because we know there is a segment of voters who are undecided that that could be effective. Thats also the why. In addition to that ad, shes in Flint Today because it is a yes and for her to win that state and across the country, its kind of a Permission Structure at giving people who are unsure maybe republican women a permission to vote for her. Yeah. But i think theres also some risks because there are some democrats who are concerned like liz cheney. Thats who were holding up as someone whos supporting our candidate so i think theres risks and states like michigan with the base, but shes speaking to the middle with these ads thanks to one and all. Appreciate it. Have a fantastic weekend to all of you up next how ai Artificial Intelligence is being used to try to influence your vote. 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Or a Loved One have mesothelial mac wilson, you a free book to answer questions you may have called now and will come to you 800 a31, 3,700 welcome back to the lead. Im jake tapper. We are in an unprecedented era where technology has vastly outpaced the ability of the public to recognize deep fakes and even more so lapped lawmakers, many of whom frankly seem unable to manage their email, take, for example, what youre watching right now. Im actually not jake. Im a deepfake, jake. A deep jake, if you will . Created by comedian danny polashek, who has only been using ai for two weeks. The fact that i seem so real suggests that real mischief and serious damage could be done with this technology, where it to be so utilized in the u. S. As it has been for bad purposes abroad okay Reallife Jake here now ai generated images, audio, and video such as that have slowly been creeping into american political campaigns in indiana. Senator mike braun, republican running for governor, was running this Tv Ad against his democratic opponent, jennifer mccormick, featuring this image of her standing at a rally against gas stoves. The image looks perfectly real, but it is fake. Its been digitally altered. Mccormick called for it to be taken down saying it, quote, violates the principles of Transparency And Integrity voters deserve in Campaign Advertising by changing the text on the signs in voters hands on the Bron Campaign originally said that their ads were compliant with a new Indiana Law that prohibits the use of digitally altered media and campaign messages unless theres a disclosure they have since replaced that image altogether. But seriously, welcome to the Wild West of Tv Ads were technology allows falsehoods to be depicted as fact blazing unethical trails around the World Fbi Director Christopher Wray has warned about foreign actors using this technology against america. This Election Cycle, the u. S will face more adversaries is moving at a faster pace and enabled by new technology advances in generative ai, for instance, are lowering the barrier to entry, making it easier for both more and less sophisticated foreign adversaries. To engage in malign influence. But forget foreign adversaries for a second, because americans are already doing it to americans, a year ago, the Republican National Committee ran this ad depicting San Francisco getting shut down and other dystopian completely fake images of this future where biden is reelected. Cnns Donie Osullivan showed this to voters and they could not tell it was fake. Morning so all the images in that ad were actually created using ai, Artificial Intelligence. Wow and since then the technology has only gotten better voters in New Hampshire. Earlier this year, got a robocall in january from someone working for democratic Challenger Congressman Dean phillips. The ai generated voice sounded like President Biden telling New Hampshire voters, dont vote in the primary we know the value of voting democratic when our votes count, its important that you save your vote for the November Election well need your help in electing democrats up and down the ticket. Voting this tuesday only enables the republicans in their quest to elect Donald Trump. Again, now phillips distance himself from the consultant who made that call and condemned it. Ron desantis, his campaign, the florida governor running against Donald Trump on the republican president ial primary used fake images of trump embracing dr. Anthony fauci and the never back down pac used an ai generated Trump Voice to read one of his actual tweets i opened up the Governor Position for kim reynolds, in which she fell behind. I endorsed her but now supporters of trump are in on it spreading fake images of trump among black voters. A Trump Campaign Manager also shared this video last year with fake audio from a very real Nbc Reporter Nobody cares about these bolts, rhino debates especially when you know that Donald Trump is going to kick some tonight abroad. Ai deepfakes have Hit Bangladesh where a fake image of a lawmaker and the conservative muslim Majority Country showed her in a bathing suit, not actually her Video And Moldova of the prowestern president supporting a pro kremlin party. And so much more, the federal government here in the united states has no law against this some states are trying to keep requiring disclosure for ads. They use Ai Lahas the disclosure thats frankly tough to read. And frankly, its a pretty weak effort. The fake image is much stronger much more memorable. That Rnc Ad from last year also had a disclaimer, but some people still couldnt even see it. They couldnt tell the difference im so i dont think i wouldve known that was made with ai if you hadnt said anything trump himself, even circulated fake a. I. Generated images of Taylor Swifts supporters proclaiming their support for trump, his sharing of those fake images was in fact cited by Taylor Swift when she announced her decision to endorse Kamala Harris. But beyond that, beyond swift endorsing harris, theres really been little accountability for anyone campaigning whose lies now include fake images that look all too real. Now i first heard of the comedian who made the ai of me at the top of the segment when he made some deepfakes of me that i wasnt particularly a fan of, but it sure looked and it sure sounded like me. So to help illustrate the potential problem here, i asked him to make that ai that we showed you at the top of this Senator Amy Klobuchar of minnesota who is very concerned about the ability of people using ai to fool voters. And she and others have introduced the quote, protect elections from deceptive Ai Act to try to address those concerns. So senator what can be done, what is your legislation prescribed to stop voters from being fooled by what looked like actual images of politicians doing things that they never did so, Jake Digitally altered and a. I. Generated ads have the potential to completely upend our elections. You got a flavor of it in New Hampshire. When you had the fake voice of pretend Joe Biden telling people not to vote. That was criminally investigated because it involved votes putting and now youre starting to see Little By Little By little ads and states and other races which i predicted which are using ai in a deceptive fashion or using digital alteration. And that means its not really the person you think or theyre at an event with signs and its not really the signs that were held up at the event to mislead voters into thinking theyre bad. Its that simple. So what our bill would do, and i have to bells one would require labeling and 18 states have now done that which is important, including Red States Like Utah and mississippi and indiana and then theres also the bill to ban deep fakes. And that is a bill i have with jake, josh hawley, as well as Susan Collins and a number of other people that says, if its a serious deep fake, and i think some of these ads and videos that actually show people fakes surroundings that are not satire they actually would qualify as being banned and that would make it simpler because then you arent going to be that youre going to stop that kind of behavior a number of platforms including openai, have actually endorsed and support our bill because it gives them something to point to id say were not putting this stuff up. So you know, its tempting. The clocks ticking right . I mean more than just about a month until the election why not . I mean, is there a holdup in the senate . Is is there appetite, appetite In The House for it was i mean, whats the holdup in the senate . I know youre going to be really surprised by this but its Mitch Mcconnell the bill actually the two bills when was centered murkowski, the other one was center holly made it through the Rules Committee and are now waiting on the floor. I asked for what we call unanimous consent that was objected to by the republicans. So the democrats are fine with this. I have a few republicans and theres a Companion Bill In The House. Its bipartisan and we just cant sit there. We have a number of states that have no laws in place at all. Theres no laws on a federal basis that govern the president ial campaigns as senate or congressional campaigns, other countries are like wait a minute, were not allowing these fake things that lie to voters. So you have no idea whos on that ad, but not us right now. Were sitting there allowing these things to go forward. And at the very least, should be labels throughout the ad or video. So people know that theyre digitally altered. What is obviously josh hawley, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski accepted. And anyone else whos whos on board with your bill accepted. What is the republican opposition to this bill is it, is it a first Amendment Issue . What their problem, i mean, i cant imagine that you know as Senator Mcconnell would think, its cooled for deepfake adds to depict him doing things that he never did you got that right . It is theyre making a claim on First Amendment Political Speech but these other frauds and they show people doing things or not doing and if we dont have some rules in place, pretty soon, theyre going to dominate the internet. We have been really reasonable about this in that weve said we talked to democratic leaders, republican lawyers. We made sure they followed existing law and the constitution so that you allow parody, all kinds of things but in this case, i think why do i think theyre really stopping it . Because i think theyre going to mess around the last month of the election and youre already starting to see it happen with completely fake videos and ads. Let me, and its now we are going to be at the mercy of the platforms about whether theyre going to put labeled on or take them down. And its mercy of Tv Stations and some state laws. Thankfully, that are in place in 18 states. Well, let me ask you also senator braun, obviously notoriously one of the first to do this. This Election Cycle in indiana and his, in his gubernatorial race there is a version because indiana has a law requiring ai that therell be some sort of description, some sort of labeling of it but the labor you so small and i dont know about you. But when i am watching tv and im watching a commercial, i dont really take the time to put on my glasses and read the fine in print. I mean, the labeling should be like pretty big and blatant in my view for it to be effective at all. Right. And remember, all of these laws, most of them have just been passed recently and clearly, some of them are going to have to be improved if you cant even see the labeling. And then you see these signs that are totally the lie. Theyre fake. She was never at such a rally with those signs. She was at her own rally with their own site and i just dont know how were going to be able to allow voters to decide to vote for the candidate they love. Or that cant. Not like a certain candidate if they dont have accurate information, i think this is totally unnecessary. And outrageous to engage in this kind of fraudulent behavior. I know they had to take the Ad Back and then they had agreed to put the labeling on as required by Indiana Law. But to me this kind of digital alteration, which is not satire, its not a joke thing, right . That should be a deepfake, that should be taken down. It just shouldnt be allowed at all and the only way to outlawed to pass a law that says that these kinds of Deep Deepfakes that are not sad tyre and have certain exemptions to them get taken down. Were not talking about altering Hair Color here are very minor things. Were talking about ads that materially deceive, materially by about something a candidate did with digital means to make it look real yeah. Just watching from a journalistic perspective what it looks like is happening starting last year when the rnc had a tv the ad portraying the dystopian future of a Joe Biden Reelection Campaign with all these images of San Francisco Burning And Everything like that. It looks like campaign managers, campaign officials, et cetera, are like the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park where theyre just kind of poking and seeing what they can get away with before they ultimately eat you. Anyways Senator Amy Klobuchar, thats a very lovely way to end the interview. Id like to say this also applies to really anyone. We have this snow Fakes Bill with Senator Coons and center blackburn, center tell us and myself that actually goes even beyond political candidates it allows the banning and taking down of things that are using peoples images in a way that deceived the public. And i just dont know unless we do that, youre never going to know if someones real or not, and that cannot be where we want to be as a country senator, Amy Klobuchar of minnesota. Good to see you as always. Thank you. Thank you President Biden, making a Surprise Appearance, weighing in on the rising tensions in the Middle East and fears of an all out war. Cnn is live on the ground in israel next mr. 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This is cnn a cnn exclusive in our world, lead a us official tells cnn that israel has not given any assurances to the biden administration that irans nuclear facilities are off the table when netanyahu and his War Cabinet are considering options for retaliation to the iranian Ballistic Missile strikes against israel earlier this week, cnns Kylie Atwood is at the State Department breaking that story for us and jim sciutto, of course, in tel aviv, kylie, tell us more about this new reporting by you and cnns Jennifer Hansler well, listen this top State Department officials said to us, no guarantees when we asked if it would be something that israel has told the united states that they have taken off the table going after irans nuclear program as part of their retaliation for Irans Missile strikes against israel earlier this week, we know that israel has not decided definitively what that retaliation is going to look like. President biden said so much earlier today. But we also know that the israelis are very keenly aware of the fact that the Biden One does not want them to make the retaliation include going after iran, nuclear facilities. President biden said he wouldnt support us and israeli officials have been in constant contact over the last a few days on this topic. And when it comes to the timing of the israeli retaliation, this senior State Department official said its very hard to tell if israel might use October 7. Of course, the first anniversary of that horrific attack on israel by hamas, along the border with gaza, to actually go ahead with its retaliation against iran in this, officials estimation, they dont think that they would use October 7 just because of the house solemn that day actually is, but they didnt count out that possibility saying that they think it would probably come before or after, but they really dont know when israel is going to do this and what exactly its going to look like. And just one more note from this top State Department official, they said, quote this is On The Edge when it comes to the prospect of a bigger war. This thing that the us is trying to been avoiding for the last year or so now, still battling it out to try and make sure thats the case, but really unclear about where israel goes next. Jim, what are you hearing from your sources in israel . Mr. Jake . I havent spoken to a single israeli official current or former who has ever taken an attack on nuclear facilities off the table. And its interesting when i speak to us officials back in washington, including Military Officials theyre very aware that striking irans nuclear facilities is one option that israeli officials are considering. And while they convey that the u. S. Is trying, it its darndest to keep israel from doing that. That they have no sense that that pressure has worked at this point, that it still is on a table. You know, its interesting, jake, you know, thinking had been for some time that israel could not decisively or even convincingly attack irans nuclear facilities on its own without us military support. But i hear from us officials and i hear from israeli officials that they believe israel can do this on its own. So conceivably, theres a scenario where the u. S. Says dont go and israel does it anyway. And jim has kylie mentioned during a Surprise Appearance in the white House Briefing Room, just a few hours ago, President Biden told reporters, israel is not going to make a decision immediately on how to retaliate for the missile full tanks. He also cautioned israelis again, striking Irans Oil fields. How to bidens comments compared to what youre hearing in israel like biden was cleaning up comments yesterday, which certainly had an effect on the oil markets, seeming to say that the u. S. Was open to that option. Hes now trying to make clear that know the u. S. 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The whole story with anderson cooper, sunday at 8 00 on cnn in our Law And Justice lead good news and Bad News for Donald Trump when it comes to prosecuting people involved in the 2020 election, something the former president says he wants. It turns out mr. President, good news. Some people are being processed thank you. Did unfortunately for you, one of them is your ally Tina Peters in a colorado court yesterday, a judge sentenced the former County Clerk to nine years in prison, that she tampered with Voting Machines under her control. She was trying to prove that theyd been used to rig the election against Donald Trump, which of course they had not been the judge berated her for being a charlatan this is just one legal issue in play before the 2024 election and keeping track of all the others can seem like quite the herculean task. Special counsel, jack smiths brief this week laid out some of the Steps Trump allegedly took to overturn the 2020 election courts across the country are flooded now with Preelection Voting lawsuits. Thats up from 2020 joining me now cnns sara murray, and zach cohen. Sara, many election officials and voting Rights Activist say tactics that jack smiths outlines in his brief against Donald Trump are similar to what theyre seeing. Now, tell us more. I mean, if you look to this filing, it feels very familiar to what were living at this point. I mean, were seeing these claims that theyre all hes noncitizens who vote in elections which again, experts say is very rare in federal elections. Were seeing some of the same people who pratt, who pushed lies about the 2020 election spreading these lies now about 20 20 and before we are seeing this avalanche of lawsuits and theyre challenging things like the Voter Rolls saying that states are not monitoring their Voter Rolls, that there are dead people on the Voter Rolls. There are people who have moved on the Voter Rolls well, we saw in 2020 it was a lot of these lawsuits came after the election. This time, were seeing them on the front end and, you know, the whole Certification Process is very mundane process of certifying the results of an election that was a big deal in 2020 when there was one county in michigan that was throwing certification into question. We have seen this popoff now dozens of counties across the country in the period since 2020. And were sort of bracing for another round of that potentially in november, zack, why so many lawsuits right now and how might all this impact when we actually know who has won some of these key battlegrounds, You Jayda Proximity to the election is really the big question. Why file these and file . Lawsuits at a time when its pretty much too closely likely to fix the actual issues that are in these court filings. I mean, just in georgia, the last few days, there was a lawsuit filed raising concerns about the vulnerabilities in Voting Systems and some of those vulnerabilities are legit. Theyve been acknowledged by federal officials, but the relief for the what the plaintiffs were asking for is theyre asking dean for something that would fix those problems anyway, and that was just rejected by a judge acknowledging there are some vulnerabilities that exist, but also not issued a ruling that would have addressed them. Some people who said that it was an intent to put on the record the fact that Raise Doubt about the security of the Voting Machines ahead of the election, so that they could set the stage for a potential challenge after fact, do we know if mr. Trump or anyone on his Campaign Team or anyone affiliated with his political apparatus is involved in any of these efforts. Well, look, a lot of these lawsuits are lawsuits that are being filed by the Republican National Committee. There are other lawsuits that are being filed by local republican partys is Voting Lawsuit that zach was just talking about was filed by the Dekalb County republicans so yes, there is definitely a steak from the republican party. And by extension, Donald Trumps campaign in these lawsuits. And weve seen the rnc come out and basically say, look, Election Integrity is what we are devoting. The majority of our staff time and resources to because we want to have people who are out there who are poll watching. We want to have people, attorneys who are out there essentially monitoring the way the election is ron. And of course, part of that is what we see in the normal course of elections to raise legitimate issues that might arise. But part of that is also collecting information if you want to put something in a lawsuit to try to challenge the results for certain batches of ballots. If youre not happy with what happens, Election Integrity very important the Republican National Committee has been on the record now for years supporting these lies about the election. So i dont how seriously im supposed to take them when they say that they still had that crazy Sidney Powell Tweet christina bobb, who has been charged for her own election, lies in Ruin Rules in 2020 runs the Election Integrity unit at the rnc right now oxymoron, if i ever heard one zach cohen, sara murray, thanks to both of you. 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And of course so much has happened in the intervening 20 years. Weve learned so much more about how epidemics work. We had an actual Reallife Epidemic on her hands. And also ive changed i have different things. Im interested in ways of interpreting things, so i just thought it would be kind of cool to go back and do a part to one of the issues you tack on the new book is americas opioid crisis. And you examine not just the role of Purdue Pharmaceutical but how a small fraction of americas doctors helped drive this epidemic that killed millions of people. Explain yes. So this is an idea in my original book, i talked about the law of the few, which was this notion that very common in epidemics for the majority of the work in spreading and sustaining an epidemic to be done by a very small group of people and that was true, had covid, only a small fraction of the population of people who are infected with covid actually spread the disease to others he was spectacularly true in the opioid crisis what produ, figures out is that they dont need to convince a majority of the doctors who prescribe painkillers to write prescriptions for oxycontin they all need to persuade, to persuade a couple of thousand doctors in the entire country and that theres a very small group who are very susceptible to marketing messages. Easy to convince of the, of the wonders of oxycontin easily misled by sales staff. And if all day and all they did was focus on that very small group and that was sufficient to start a national epidemic of painkillers were living through unprecedented times when it comes to politics. And yet, you voided, you steer clear of politics in this book, im not objecting to that, but i just wonder why well, first of all, im canadian. I dont have a dog in this fight. I you know, i dont need to weigh in a miss. I think all is enough. If you want books on politics, there are many, many choices out there, all written by people who know more than i do know. But actually, i feel strongly that i think we are over defined by our political ideology. The moment and there are many more aspects of Human Experience that were taking a look at. I love it and believe me, im im im just happy to not have to think about it. You struck a hopeful note at The End of your First Book, the Tipping Point you wrote quote, the world might seem like an immovable Plaque Packable place. It is not with the slightest push in the right place. It can be tapped unquote. And that was meant as an optimistic way. I wonder if 25 years later you think that was overly optimistic . I think a little i mean, i wrote that First Book in at The End of the 1990s, which in retrospect was this kind of magical period. I mean, crime was falling social problems were disappearing. The Iron Curtain fell. I mean, all these things that were happening, it was i was in my midthirties. I mean, i was at the most optimistic time of anyones life. I think im a little more cleareyed this time around and a lot of this book is devoted to kind of alerting us to the ways in which epidemic rules and principles are used towards things that are not necessarily positive. All right, well, the new book is fantastic. Revenge of the Tipping Point. The author Malcolm Gladwell, so good to have you. Thank you so much. 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