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Thank you for watching Newsnight State of the race. Laura coates live starts right now live defying reality. Donald trump makes a campaign prediction, but not even his own supporters are buying. Plus, diddy is not getting out before his trial. A judge denying him bail again so what exactly will his life like in that Brooklyn Jail ive got a special guest who is ben there . Hes going to join us. And 48 the election. And Donald Trumps path to 270 seems to be well expanding lees according to him we are going to win New York. And thats the first time in many, many years that are republican can honestly say it. And were going to do, and we have to do it. We do it. And the election nationwide is over you heard him he thinks the state he lost by more than 20 points in 2016 and by The Way, in 2020 is in play he dedicated nearly two Hour Rally on long Island Tonight to make that very case and in the immortal words of dodgeball so bold strategy cotton, lets see if that pays off for them look, who knows that the Trump Campaign a serious about New York, and i dont have a crystal ball, but they may want to get serious about what he heard, calling the actual battleground States Quinninipia Tonight has Vice President Harris Up Five and pennsylvania also in michigan. Its Razortight And Ms conston. And as my friend, Harry Enten likes to tell us if she were to win all three. Trumps goose is probably cooked the usual caveat applies. Of course thats just one poll. But the campaign, it got another jolt today. It was pretty big news the fed all but declared victory in the war on inflation. They finally cut Interest Rates this time by half a point the u. S. Economy is and are Decision Today is designed to keep it there the u. S. Economy is in a good place. Well if voters start to feel that in me world of feelanomics it could maybe boost harris. Now, trump has said that he wants Interest Rates to come down if hes reelected, he thinks that lowering Borrowing Costs would also be good. He must be happy, right yes, it shows economy to kind of buy that much so i mean, theyre not just playing politics the economy would be very bad or theyre playing politics. One of the other budget, there was a big gut well the fed said, this . Actually not playing politics. And apparently neither are the teamsters. For the first time since 1996, the powerful union has decided to sit this one app no endorsement for a president ial candidate. And thats going to end nearly three decades long streak of teamsters backing down democrats for president is that good or bad . Then lots of get to with my panel for tonight, we have associate Research Scholar and lecturer in politics and Public Affairs at princeton university, lauren wright, Cnn Contributor Leah Wright, rigueur, and a cnn commentator, Jamal Simmons this is pretty astounding news tonight. Youre welcome for the Dodgeball Reference because i laughed really loud as well you can dodge a ball movie. I, i think zoolander is probably next on your list. I know we probably have the same same chops. Ill begin with you because you had the best Movie Reference Jamal big interest Rate Cut, pretty big. It was the first time since march of 2020. And youve got these favorable Poll Numbers that are out right now for harris in some of the battleground states. And notably the race is very competitive on issues of the economy and also immigration in places like pennsylvania and michigan. So what do you think that harris campaigns thinking tonight . Right theyre in a good mood because this is going to help keep the economy moving, its going to probably bolster some consumer confidence. Heres one of the things that happens in the polls. The polls are saying, you asked people how theyre doing personally. They say theyre doing pretty well. But you asked him about the economy, about the future. They seem to be a little bit more hesitant. So if any energy that says, oh well, maybe things arent going to go well, one thing that might happen that really could have an impact in the short term is if they get any break on Mortgage Rates, people who are out here trying to buy a house, Mortgage Rates are higher, Mortgage Rates ticked down a little bit. Thats going to help people. Im trying to get into a house. And that could be very helpful for the economy. And we tie that so much for, good or bad reasons, the american dream, i mean, i say for good or bad, given the history of things like redlining and banks deciding who is a worthy candidate to give loans, student cetera, but slow part of the american dream. But think about it. Its also a big, because it also spurs everything like you buy a house. You got to furnish the house. Youve got to fix the house. So Home Depot goes up, all the things things go up at the same time. This is why real estate, such a major part of our economy, if that happens, its going to help in the short term, the harris campaign. Well, lauren, on the fed Rate Cut just last night. I mean, trump was promising that he will get Interest Rates down. That was his promise. Today. He says though, that It Cut means the economy is bad really cant have your kicking into two i bet hes wondering if the voters though will buy that i will take the pessimistic side for harris. Ill just be really conservative in that particular way. The danger for democrats is celebrating this two months, especially when she has drawn a contrast with trump and said, our White House will be totally independent of the fed. We have nothing to do with them. We dont direct them, we dont tell them what to do. And voters wont feel this likely for 12 months. Its baked into a lot of the financial projections already. And i think what jamal said is pretty charitable. I think people are angry about the economy. Theyre not just feeling wishy wishywashy and there still blaming that On Biden and harris. So i dont think itll really change anything. This might be why in many ways they keep talking about because of the underdog, right . They then . Get both campaigns hoping when they see these type polls, they actually probably liked the fact that voters go, oh, its tight, its, i must turn out to vote if it was already a landslide one way or the other. People might say, you know what that means . Maybe you dont need me to participate in this and thats problematic for any campaign, but leah, part of the campaign has gone away from the broader context of immigration. And now its been more nuance on this ridiculous, absurd. Just hateful lie that was spread in springfield, Ohio And Trump is promising tonight when a visit there in the next two weeks or so, and hes also still attacking the asian migrants that are there. Listen to this no, no. Were getting them out of our country. They came in illegally destroying our country. Were getting about theyre going to be brought back through the country from which they came well, first of all, you know, that the haitians who are in that community are there legally under the tee up gps program. But he is a dog with a bone in this instance why why would he go this tactic . Well, first of all, i have to fully full disclosure. I am biased. Have a haitianled name so the idea that i might be deported, or i might be sent back is a little, a little terrifying, but its also very typical Donald Trump. It is hogwash. Thats not going to happen. The people that were talking about in this town are here legally. In fact, they are brought specifically in to bolster the economy. The sagging oh, Rust Economy of springfield, ohio were manufacturing has all but died. And the current residents wont live there. It has exploded in other ways because of problems with Infrastructure And Housing and things of that nature and what were seeing is something that thomas trump is really good at doing, which is exploiting fear and exploiting anxiety and so he has found consistently really over the last eight years that fear, anxiety and exploiting that and speaking to that actually works incredibly well. You know, theres a real irony in the fact that he gave this Stump Speech in uniondale, Long Island today, uniondale, New York why . Because you didnt nail has a massive haitian immigrant population first, second, third generation haitians, to be surrounded by that and to be dumping on that. Well also knowing that these are the same people that you are that you are surrounding yourself in is really, i think a cheap political ploy that for Donald Trump has consistently played small dividends and so i think well continue to see him play this up. Well continue to hear him mention these references to haitian migrants to eating cats, to eating dogs, to kind of make this as a political ploy. Why its not about Finding Solutions to the anxiety and the fear. Its about exploiting the anger, the fear, the preexists intentions in these communities over and over and over again its also costing the community of springfield money. They dont have they want to talk about issues related to having their resources be taxed i mean, not in terms of the actual taxation, but really they dont have everything they need for the influx of people, but instead theyre spending money on things like having to have Safety Mechanisms in place for schools and hospitals and beyond it just nonsensical to me. But then again, i mean, the biggest challenge for me on this as we elect a president , not just to lead us in the good times, to also take Care Of the bad things and to keep order. Heres somebody who knows that borders this order as being caused right now because it was worse. He knows are closing schools. He knows they have to do security. He knows people have been attacked. They can have Community Meetings and yet he continues to do it. So it tells you that when we think about who were choosing, the lead us, do we actually want somebody who foments disorder . At a moment where people are looking just to have Safety And Security for their families. Well, he will say im sure that he doesnt think that hes to blame. Hes hes he is has im not going to make his case im not going to help you out because i its good. Make your own cases. Im not a prosecutor anymore, but let me ask you this. Aliyah on this point because there was a moment talking about leadership, what people will look at in leadership, something i find really striking an odd right now is this emphasis on whether Kamala Harris is a biological mother . There was a moment last night with governor Sarah Huckabee sanders when she had a comment to make about comparing her own life and our kids make her humble. And then she comparisons as well Vice President harris doesnt have anything keeping her humble. Second gentleman, Doug Emhoff did respond to this tonight. Listen to what he said they said that somehow because Colon Aloe Arent kamalas quoteunquote biological children that she doesnt have anything in her life to keep her humble as if keeping women humble, whether you have children or not, is something we should strive for loren trying to make sense if you can i just such a losing argument. And the thing is republicans do have the advantage on immigration on the economy. There are smart fair critique. Donald trump could be making of Kamala Harris says very controversial Policy Platform instead, hes doing these personal attacks. Hes on race, on gender, hes going in the opposite direction of the conservative movement. They try to deemphasize person its an all identity and the factor it plays in your life and your challenges and your outcomes. And so i cant make sense of this from, from a strategic standpoint, from a person to person standpoint. Theres nothing in my Expert Background that can make Heads Or Tails of it is just politics or this is close well, you say earlier that for Donald Trump, its not about the emphasize the peoples personal characteristics. Hes been doing this from the very beginning, from the movie came down the escalator remember, theres thing for republicans. Hes talked about the mexican judges that cant, they cant take Care Of them were Cant Judge him. Right . Hes talked about all these questions that really get at identity he because in his mind, it appears who knows whats inside Donald Trumps mind. But we know what he says in his words hes saying that the real americans are the ones who are likely people who follow him. And everybody else is not really a real american. Well, what about whats not being said because i am really intrigued by the absence of an endorsement from the teamsters i mean, this is the first time in bailey its very big moment, especially because the trend has been to support democrats. Now saying, never mind, were not going to support anyone right now translates to me that theyre not going to support the democratic candidate. Why is this such a big deal . And over that the overall landscape of politics, not dead, the teamsters endorse anyone right now so i should say we should qualify hi, that though, because the Teamsters Black Caucus came out and said, oh no, we are endorsing Kamala Harris. And we want to be very clear that there are very big divisions and splits within the Teamsters Organization at large. This is a vote of no confidence in our leadership and i do think that there are a couple of things going on there. Severe splits when we look at polling thats been done over the last three months consistently, the teamsters have shown, based on gender, based on race, based on geographic region, very sharp divisions in this split between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump before that, it was Joe Biden one of the other things too, though, that were seeing is that Sean Obrien has been has consistently tried to find an entryway into the republican party. Why . Because he says he wants a seat at the table and some interesting, i think its an interesting argument to make its leveraged politics essentially, he can, one of the things that the teamsters has pointed out is that the democratic party, including Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been very, very good for union yes exceptionally good for unions. And what they are concerned about is that if Donald Trump is reelected that actually he will be very bad for unions. Sean obrien is argument is i want to seat at the table. I think what he doesnt quite understand though, and what those teamsters i think who support Donald Trump dont understand, is that leveraged politics . Very rarely work were talking about a political candidate who sat down with Elon Musk a few months, a few weeks ago. And celebrated the idea of being able to fire people, right . In Fire Workers and fire and get around to unions so this is fundamentally antiunion, but i do think what we are picking up are sizable demographic, racial geographic class differences that have been roiling the teamsters for a very long time. The idea for many people who have been, who are activists, the idea of leverage politics, not working is very, very demoralizing, whether its accurate or not. But its the idea that it might not be the case is speaking of unions, all you get your point. Ive been thinking a unions Donald Trump muster heard me say make your own because i want you to listen to what he said on fox just tonight. Hes talking about biden getting out of the race, harris going in, listen they said joe, its over, you get now end. He said, im not getting out. You get out and they were very nasty 25th Amendment and everything else he got out and they put her in and she somehow a woman somehow, shes doing better than he did. Yeah. But i can imagine it can last well, can it i do think there are questions that are fair to ask Kamala Harris about her very active role behind the scenes with Joe Biden as a trusted adviser, as someone who was the last decisionmaker in The Room. And i who might Data Shows has been the most active Vice President ever from a public appearances to gunpoint she blew Mike Pence out of the water with her speeches and ceremonial duties and everything else you heard that left that aside, you know, you heard the Woman Reference that you settled ahead yeah. I mean, trumps idiosyncrasies. Ill never be able to fully explain it. Unfortunately on the Union Point really quickly. I do think what republicans did was smart here. They offered obrien a primetime Speaking Slot at the rnc relatively costless action that clearly got them a benefit. He asked to speak at the dnc he did not get it. Its a huge deal. They have 2 Million members with you count the retirees who turn out to vote 70 of the time. Thats not a group that you want to alienate and frankly, the lack of curiosity by democrats about why theyre hemorrhaging, Working Class voters i think those are interesting questions they need to ask. Why is trump so appealing to the Rank And File . Why does he have some firefighters, buildings, unions . He has majority of unions are with harris, but hes making some inroads there that are interested. Well, well have to wait and see what more he has to say about that very notion. Standby, everyone. Thank you so much. Theres news as well about sean diddy combs. 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Did he lost his bid for Freedom Today in his federal Sex Trafficking and Racketeering Case a judge rejecting his Bail Proposal as quote, insufficient, even though it included 50 Million and a promise, only allow women inside his homes if theyre members of his family or the mothers of his children instead of a wait and trial. And one of his mansions, did he is Inmate Number 3745 to zero 054 at the metropolitan Detention Center in brooklyn the jail opened in the 1990s and holds about 1,200 inmates right now. Most waiting to stand trial. But its been plagued with problems like violence, staffing Shortages Drug Smuggling lockdowns, and power outages. Even did his lawyers highlighted the quote, horrific conditions of detention and is appeal to free their client during the jail is infested with drugs and calling it an ongoing tragedy. Now, among the dangerous he cited an inmate who was murdered there just over the summer. And four inmates have died by suicide in just the last three years. You can hear the desperation for some of the inmates when they yelled out of their windows to lawmakers during a visit, two years ago its like to be inside federal custody but my next guests has an idea of what did his life might be like right now. Joining me, michael cohen, Donald Trumps former fixer. Hes also the host of the podcasts nicole, but and political Beatdown And Author of revenge, how Donald Trump weaponized the u. S Department Of Justice against his critics michael, thank you for joining us. First of all, im just its jarring for people to hear the detainees and inmates screaming out for help and taught me about commissaries and talking about whats going on there. I mean, youve gone from a new York City highrise, frankly, to jail during your federal trials. And im wondering, given the notoriety of yourself and certainly of duty, what do you think hes experienced in that facility is like its misery to say the least. First of all, theres few places like metropolitan Detention Center that are as dilapidated. And in need of desperate repair and a complete overhaul as mdc is his life, as he knew it. In the 40 50,000,000 mansions waking up in the morning to and im going to make this up by The Way violins playing for him. He has his chefs, he has his missou says he has his nutritionist he has, he has freedom, not just freedom, but he has a, he had a great freedom living the life of riley, living the american dream. Right now when he wakes up, hes waking up on a Steel Bed with a oneandahalf inch mattress, no pillow in an eight by ten footsteps oh, that i can assure you is disgusting. With an Aluminum Toilet and aluminum sink that probably half Works Floors of filthy. You have a Plastic Chair with an attached table to the wall. You have a locker for your clothes, assuming that they gave him anything. Great . Youre than an Orange Jumpsuit and thats what you have. You have basically a three by five space within which to move around 15 square feet to do your pushups, situps, theres no books at the at the early part, so he is really dealing with a lot right now when he wakes up, he staring at cinderblock painted white walz, as opposed to whatever the decor of his mentioned. Were united spoken about the Presumption Of Innocence that should be afforded to every defendant. This person though, will not be released pending trial, even with that presumption, the judges have said, already, know he must be detained until and we dont have a Trial Date set to the experience you describe is going to be what is happening until a trial is set in and conducted. And speaking of this entirety, as you describe theres i dont know if you saw this today, but the fox business anchor, Maria Bartiromo, shes floating a theory. Its a pretty wild one in my estimation that the timing of this arrest for diddy was actually meant to distract from the apparent Assassination Attempt of trump. Listen to what she said the timing of the P Diddy Arrest, please. They must have had the P Diddy Arrest on the Shelf Waiting to take it off the shelf for when they needed it. Yesterday, boy. Oh, boy, did they need it . Because the questions were spiking everywhere as far as how it is possible that another Destination Attempt happen, that another Wouldbe Assassin was within one couple of hundred yards of President Trump as were all asking these questions. But they take P Diddy in and now were all talking about that. Shake it off the front page. This strategy over and over again, i saw right through it as soon as had happened what do you think about what she had to say in that conspiracy . I think Maria Bartiromo is an idiot i dont believe for a second that the Southern District of New York sat with this case. And im not a fan of the Southern District of New York. I would love for there to be something like that to hang somebodys had over there. Im no fan of the Southern District, but i can assure you that this has nothing to do with the second Assassination Attempt on Donald Trump to distract anybody from anything. This is an ongoing investigation. They brought the case when they brought the case when they believed that they had enough evidence within which to present the case for the indictment and so on. Thats how the system works. I will tell you as somebody who spent 51 days in Solitary Confinement this is going to be a Lifechanging Event for diddy nothing that he ever thought was going to be as difficult as this because hes living again in conditions that he never thought that he would ever have to contend with, is it likely based on who he is in your experience as well, that he would be placed in a solitary situation or that hed have threats surrounding him. Well, thats why theyre going to keep him in Solitary Confinement situation. Hes not capable of being the general population for several different reasons. First of all, the charges that are against him are ones that are not taken well in prisons we talking about abuse of women, potentially under age women. And again, i liked the point that you also brought up, which is there in the country, theres a Presumption Of Innocence. And while we all have an opinion, whether you like didi or you dont is irrelevant. We are not the jury. Theyre the ones whose decisions their beliefs matter. The rest of us only have opinions on this. And the truth is, like i said, there is a presumption of Innocence And Everybody should have that Presumption Of Innocence in this country when being confronted with these type of charges, an allegations well, certainly that presumption exists. The experience that he may be having in the facility, i think if people are concerned about that, its a conversation that needs to be broader about the experience of all that would experience something similar, not just those whose names, you know, michael cohen. Thank you so much. Good to see you. Laura ahead a new report links the deaths of two women to georgias strict Abortion Law Vice President Kamala Harris is pointing the finger at trump and heading to georgia to make her case is every his, every things stupid. Saturday, October 5th on cnn every halloween she copies me but at Michaels Sleep can be different terrifying know your tariff know exactly you hear the most here of what we look the same you might be used to living with your Albuterol Asma Rescue inhaler, but its a bit of a dinosaur because it only treats yourself im not inflammation. Treating both symptoms and inflammation with rescue is supported by asthma experts. 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Both women took Abortion Pills that they receive from outofstate because they couldnt have the procedure under georgias sixweek Abortion Ban both women later died because their bodies did not expel all of the fetal tissueue a rare complication, but a complication that Pro Publica Reports was quote preventable according to the States Committee of maternal health experts. In this instance an amber Thurmans Case Propublica reports. She went to a hospital in pain waiting for 20 hours before doctors began to operate died during surgery Candi Miller never made it to a hospital. Have me says she didnt go because of georgias Abortion Law she died in her own bed a threeyearold daughter Myers Side both women died in 2022 the case is only now coming to light which raises the question, how many other cases are out there . With me. Now, Congresswoman Nikema williams, a democrat from georgia, and Vice Chair of the democratic womens caucus, and a member of the congressional pro prochoice caucus. Congresswoman. Im im im trying to push down my emotions about a threeyearold Little Girl beside her mother in a bed. When she dies these stories, they are more than heartbreaking and weve named two women how many more . Like amber like candy possibly suffering and possibly dying . Thats the Thing Laura we hear about this threeyearold Little Boy who was in bet next to his mom and then the sixyearold Little Boy, who now has to grow up without his mother and these were preventable deaths. But in georgia, like so many other states across the country, because Donald Trump overturn roe v. Wade. And republican governors like my governor Brian Kemp, signed really strict Abortion Laws into effect in georgia. Its a Sixweek Ban before most women even know that theyre pregnant. We told them i was in the State Senate when georgias Abortion Ban passed and we told them that women what die because of these bands. And they didnt believe as they thought we were exaggerating and we were just trying to get our voices heard. We wanted our voices heard. And laura, i like to be right. But this is the one time that i wish i didnt have to say i told you so because women are literally dying, georgia already has one of the highest Turner Mortality rates in the country. Black women die from complications of Pregnancy Related Deaths more than women in Third World countries in georgia. But yet here we are over half of our counties in georgia dont even have an obgyn, but yet we signed Well Sanders One to affect knowing that x doctors testified that women would die because of this, doctors are afraid that therell be jailed for given women the care that they need until there on the brink of death. And thats what were seeing play out theres an added layer to all that youve said as well for somebody like Candi Miller, who i understand had severe chronic medical conditions and her family says that she never went to the hospital because of georgias law. But is this particularly causing women to fear seeking out the care they need particularly those who are already potentially advocates for their own health the other thing women could even be prosecuted because you can even show up for complications from a miscarriage. And it could be investigated. But that is what were living under and Donald Trumps america, where his project 2025, agenda would make this possible in all 50 states, not just here in the deep south. Were seeing this all over. And then were also seeing women who are having to travel to other states to get abortions. That these providers in other states are being overwhelmed. Thats what happened in one of the cases in georgia. She couldnt get a rescheduled appointment after driving for hours to get to north carolina, which now also has the effect. But this is the reality that were living under and Donald Trumps america. Thats why it is so important that people, especially in states like Georgia Battleground states where every vote matters show up and make their voices heard at the ballot box. Kamala harris is fighting for reproductive freedoms. Shell be back in battleground, georgia on friday talking about this very issue bringing this directly to the voters that are impacted most, what we know is that this issue transcends partisanship. Its not about democrats republicans, role versus urban. This happened and deaths happen. Read in metro atlanta, i gave birth to my son at the same hospital that one of the women died at. Oh my, this is something that transcends access or race, or partisanship. And we have for president on the ballot, who will fight for us. And i think women are paying attention. Were going to show up in force and were going to elect a leader and Kamala Harris will be a president for all americans, not just the people that j. D. Vance and Donald Trump are seeking to bring on to their team the reasons you describe in a way, all of this feels close to home when states are in charge of deciding what the next steps are after the dobbs decision. And certainly both campaigns are looking at this issue as one that is triggering for a wide political spectrum. You mentioned the governor in georgia, Brian Kemp, a Spokes Person for the governor saying, Thurman And Miller quote would likely both be alive today if partisan activists and socalled journalists had not spread such egregious Misinformation And Propaganda that fostered a culture of Fear And Confusion hes pointing the blame elsewhere, not on the laws themselves, but on those he believes perpetuated some false narrative that then led them to feel fearful of what the truth was. What is your response to the governor . Brian kemp understands that he signed this law into effect. He was warned the experts told him what would happen if he signed this law into effect, and he did it anyway and Donald Trump are responsible for the deaths of these women. And we have a choice on the ballot. It is a clear contrast. Voters harris needs to show up and elect Kamala Harris is president because she will fight for our reproductive freedoms. She will fight for so that no other woman has to go through what these two Women In Georgia have been through. These families are now in mourning because theyve lost these women and their children who were already here need their parents with and yet because of Brian Kemp and Donald Trump, these two women are dead. More women, im sure more stories will come out because were only starting to see the impact of what happened two years ago when trumps Abortion Ban went into effect in georgia. So it pains me to see what the narrative will be and what well continue to come out in the days to come. But im sure there are more because again, more than half of our counties in georgia dont even have an obgyn. Brian kemp, our governor, still has not expanded medicaid to get women the care that they need he needs to take the blame, or stein in this line, to affect an understand. But the advocate were making sure that we could raise the alarm because we knew what was at stake. Brian kemp, saenzs into law anyway, as you describe it just thinking about all the different people in moments that failed both of these women its overwhelming to consider. Youve identified to who you believe are responsible. Id be curious to hear what their response this is our from here out, Congresswoman Nikema williams. 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But the first clip, shes in detroit, the second pittsburgh you may not be a Union Member. You better thank a Union Member members Union Member for paid leave. You. Thank a Union Member of the cation thank you thank you. Thank you. Now conservatives would look at this difference in her cadence, in her delivery and they would point to what they think is evidence of harris is lack of authenticity is become frankly one of their most popular attack lines. Look online they used it to attack her race she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black. So i dont know. Is she indian or is she black . Well, shes, shes both. Thats what biracial actually means Jamal Simmons and Leah Wright rigueur are back with me right now. Jim, while we were weve had these conversations about politicians being chameleons trying to adapt and read and know the audience how often have we heard the read The Room references . But this is being talked about as always, l. Fraser ebonics or black english or different phrases. In fact, linguist John Mcwhorter says harris is sometimes speaking in quote, unquote Blackck English E calls it Code Switch, and we know what that means. Any connects it to this quote from my angela, where she writes we learned to slide out of one language and into another without being conscious of the efforts at school and a given situation, we might respond with. Thats not unusual, but in the same street meeting, in the same situation, we easily might say itd be like that. Sometimes what does it be live right now what it be like right now is Donald Trump trying to make a bigger, broader point . Hes making the point that you Cant Trust her fundamentally, what hes trying to do. You dont know what shes saying. Youre not sure where shes going . You know what she stands for, look at what you said in 2019, looking what shes saying now and hes using this argument to go at something thats more of a Gut Punch because thats how you fights. He doesnt fight up here. He fights in here. And thats what hes trying to do is capture people at this moment like whats he really doing, what she is saying . Now the truth is that we all know people do this all the time. Everybody does this, everybody goes into a room and they it kind of try to fit in. I remember one time sitting in a restaurant and my friend ask for a cup of tea. I like a small place. And i said, what can he do . You want and she said, you can have hot or you can have cold as all we got here, right . So you learn at some point, im not at the place where i can get my chamomile decaffeinated this is the thing that Donald Trump is saying. It doesnt matter that its shallow argument. Hes trying to go at peoples imagination about her, and then hes going to make a bigger point about her and whatnot she should be President Or Isnt imagination leah, or is it playing into a stereotype that there is only one way to be a particular race, right . There is diversity there is centricity, there is eclectic nature of everything. Was one way to be black. Theres only one thing you can do. And by her, they believe pot talking in certain way its so unfamiliar as to be an authentic authentic excuse me. Let me tell you something. The last thing i want is some white man making a decision about what authentic blackness actually is . And i think thats where we are. I also have to ask you know, do republicans do . Does Donald Trump actually know any black people i think this is one of the reflections of a kind of cultural ignorance that repeatedly comes up over and over again. And weve seen it especially in this election so i think jamal is exactly right, right . Its about trust, authenticity. You Cant Trust her. Shes a chameleon, but its also about the fact that they actually dont understand black institutions. They dont understand black cultural markers. This is the same person who said, oh, she went to some silly meeting, some silly sorority meeting, not realizing thats already party, already party, not actually realizing that be Jlots Black Greek Letter Organizations are multimillion multimillion Member Or Institution that have a long history, including alone political history in this country. So its actually much more than just a little party. The same person who didnt really understand what historically black colleges and universities actually were, what they exist, how they are funded. And yet here you have someone who is a member of who went to an hbcu, who is a member of both an auxiliary black greek letter organization, but also an actual black greek letter organization. And is part of a civic organization for black women well this, this take and i think its important when youve raised leah especially the take of the spheres also seemed to talk about that republicans are furious because it seems like a shtick that might get the voters they would like to go to her, indicted them, and she talks about thinks that its a stick that they believe shes using it to get a Working Class base. And that is problematic if the strategy is to open your tent to who you took for granted or thought was already, already on your side . Do you see this sort of Code Switch that they perceive as actually code for those voters belong to us im sure they believed that. But it also betrays how they campaign, but to actually campaigning on issues. Everyone keeps saying Donald Trumps seem to focus on the issues. The reality is the issues arent on his side because the voters hes trying to convince arent interested in the things hes promising. And instead, what Kamala Harris was talking about are things that people actually do want. They do want to have a Child Care Tax credit. They do want to make sure that unions are taken Care Of. They do want to make sure that theres going to be were going to have more Infrastructure Spending and were going to build out the american economy those are the things that her campaign is built on. But theyre not really campaigning on that. Theyre campaigning on sound of her voice. What does she look like where theyre going after things that really are not about substance. And by The Way, we will quickly other candidates have been accused of being chameleons. This is reading differently though thats Kamala Harris instead, why . Well, because shes a woman we dont have these conversations about tim scott. Tim scott got up on stage with Donald Trump, included fannie lou hamer. In order to endorse Donald Trump. He said, im sick and tired of being sick and tired, right and in the words of an old spiritual so we dont really say that about that. We dont, so we didnt say it about barack obama, which is really interesting because that is very much an argument that could have been made chris has a little bit mean, Jon Stewart about what he was dropping an accident when i think he was important that got one point and Tim Walz is accused of being folksy. There are moments, but your point is well taken. That this is an elevated moment right now where this is focused on for a very different reason in something tells me that those who know the code know exactly why im all leah. Thank you both so much and thank you all for watching Anderson Cooper 360 next this whale is unaware. Its being exploited for financial advertising. Look at this silly little saleable these men of means today, Silver Spoon Seating up the financial favors of the 1 . 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