Sign? plus an explosive report suggests two women died under abortion restrictions. And now kamala harris is he's blaming donald trump it's immoral it's a moral also 47 days until the election. The republican nominee he demands his party shut down the government over his election lies politically beyond stupid. And melania trump, emerges to sell a book, but not necessarily her husband why do i stand proudly behind my nude modeling work? live at the table. Jonah goldberg nayyera hop, geoff duncan, and madison, jesse auto. Welcome to a special edition of newsnight date of the race i'm abby phillip in new york. Let's get right to what america is talking about. Did kamala harris just get a major economic boost or didn't donald trump just get another reason? to criticize her for the first time since the pandemic in four years, the fed of cut interest rates, it's a big, big move, especially if you're trying to make a big, big purchase. And some economists say it shows a soft landing that the united states is finally turning the page on inflation. But there are some others who say it could mean a downturn is on the horizon. Now, as for the candidates, harris calls it some welcome news. Trump though. He's saying it's all politically motivated yes, it shows you economy to kind of buy that much so i mean, they're not just playing politics economy would be very bad or they're playing politics. One of the other budget, there was a big guy joining us in our fifth seat tonight is cnn economics analyst catherine rampell. Catherine, i'll let you take that on from donald trump out, add to it. Steve moore, who is our concern? economists. He says, i'm not saying a 50 point reduction is isn't justified. It may well be and they have more data than i do, but i just think why now? there's no reason that they couldn't do 25 now and 25 after the election this is just nonsense. Look, we know for milton friedman noted democrat of course that fed policy works with long and variable lags, meaning that whatever the fed did today, we are not going to feel it in the economy by november, if the fed were actually trying to do something i'm not saying they weren't, but if they were trying to do something to help democrats, they would have cut rates like nine months ago that's around the time you would have needed to have any sort of effect on the real economy at this point. But more to the point the fed is politically independent. They prize their political independence. It is important for them to be seen as above the political fray as not being influenced by the near term political ups and downs of what's going on in the economy or what's going on in the country in order for there there are medicine to work, right? if people don't believe that they are politically independent, then they're going to say, well, we don't really believe that they're committed to stable prices. And so inflation expectations can get unmoored. We've seen this happen in lots of other, as you're talking there, it just reminds me that yet again, this is another institution that trump thinks is operating in a political way and so he, he then says, well, if i were president, i would make them political. I would put my thumb on the scale because i have a right to because that's what they're doing, but that's not what's happening here. Now. It's good the whole entire point of having a monetary system that is independent is for these to be clear eyed views and perspectives. Now, the idea of inflation in the economy being political issues. Yes, but there's only so much that each president can do when you have some fundamental challenge doesn't shock to the system, to bring the economy back to a place where it's not just the economic indicators, but people feel like it's better. So this is just another opportunity for both candidates to jump on the lowering of interest rates to pretty much advance their own economic policy agendas. I mean, don't you think there is a psychological effect to this though? i mean kathrine's right, that there the lagging indicator, but i know a lot of people who have been anxiously cert had this date circled on their calendars they want to buy a house. They they're just thinking longer term about their lives and they want to know if these interest rates are going down. Will that psychological effect? help? yeah, look i have a psychological effect at minimum. It can't hurt harris, right? i mean, i don't see how you could spin it in a way and say, oh, so interest rates are finally starting to come down. And that's bad for harris, right? so you can tell just from where the noises that's trump world are making that they're uncomfortable with this and i agree entirely with catherine, the idea that somehow the fed has been doing. Joe biden's bidding is a little hard to square with the fact that joe biden has been chased out of running for president because he was so unpopular as the economy was doing so badly and he would have done, he would have, he would have liked to seen you and joe biden when he would like to see interest rates go down and it was nine months or year ago or he won't say anything at all although he did recently put on a trump hat. So like anymore? yeah. But it's like what inflation if all of a sudden we saw that inflation just stopped entirely prices are still be high, but psychologically, that would be really reassuring to a lot of people on the argument that president trump was making that some republicans on the right are making, is that the cut is an indication of maybe some bad times to come and of course, the bigger question is, how does this impact people obviously she said it is a lagging indicator, but when you look at a lot of things, people across the country struggling with right now, like credit card debt we're looking at people who maybe have a $1,000 credit card bill when you cut and they have maybe a 20% interest rate, we're talking about $0. 42. They're saving monthly on their finance charges. This is not that much so people economically i think are still struggling in this country. And we're going to need a lot more relief than that to really move the ball. Of course, housing still a huge issue. A lot of economy i'm just saying we could continue to see right. Prices rise. And this may not solve the crisis that we're seeing in the housing market whatsoever. And the housing crisis isn't one just of interest rates, right? it's affordability, it's access, its what is available and for folks were trying to get into that next hear i mean, our generation of millennials, we are unable to buy homes at rates that have never been seen before because of the price, the price gap. But here's what i wanted. It's hard to believe. I think it's interesting i mean, we've, we interest rate that made it more expensive. But the primary reason why housing is so on affordable is that we've made it almost impossible we've seen rates like this, but i do think there's something to be said for people who four years ago, this is the psychological element of it. Four years ago, they said to themselves i was seeing twoandahalf mortgage rates and i could afford twice as much house as i could afford right now, there is a psychological component to this that's making people feel just pretty dour. The economy is 3d chess for sure, but it's interesting to candidates are trying to solve for different problem with today's announcement than the fed is in jerome powell. This they're trying to talk about inflation in jerome powell is trying to, trying to push in ourselves again some sort of freefall in an economic situation where deflation starts to kick in. So we're trying to find this equal balance it's interesting if you're sitting here and trying to retire, you look at your house is worth it's more than it's ever been worth your assets, your for one is your your your portfolio. And so there's different parts of the economy. But i think if you look back at 2001 and 2007 at the peak of the equity markets is when they started making their first round of cuts and then you watched what happened over the next 12 to 18 months. If you don't play this out this isn't some sort of guaranteed goldilocks situation. This is a very difficult, but i do think it is so disingenuous of americans do not give blame to both parties for getting us to this spot. We printed 16 trillion where the money we didn't have over the last eight years and we handed it out under the guise of economic crisis under the guise of health crisis, under the guise of what? never crisis, $16 $20. We don't have, therefore, we get to these peak interest rate moments and then we come back and fall down so i want to shift gears a little bit though, because there was another piece of big news today, the teamsters a union that has been dragging its feet on an endorsement for some time now they decided what they were going to do, know endorsement. Know doris meant for harris no endorsement for trump. But in the meantime, they did kind of knife harris and the process they released this internal polling data that shows that there was a big swing after joe biden left the race. Joe biden was leading trump when he was sent still in the race among union members after he left the race, harris first trailing trump. They did not endorse. And here's what sean o'brien, who, by the way, he spoke at the rnc. This is what he had to say the democrats have always taken for granted that they're going to get our vote no matter what. And the republicans, a fancy themselves as the work in parties, working people's party. I think gray now both sides have to take a step back and really reevaluate what their commitment is to working people and that's what we did in this process so catherine, this is not an economic question because i don't think this has anything to do that economics, right it's donna shake i mean, the facts are what they are. The biden/harris administration literally bailed out the teamsters pensions but that's really not what this debate is about within this particular union. It's not only that you point out that yes, they bailed out the teamsters pensions. That's not the only major favor or whatever you want to call it that democrats have recently bestowed on the teenagers and on union members in general excuse me joe biden and kamala harris walked the picket line with the uaw donald trump was recently in a conversation with elon musk cheering on elon musk for firing workers were trying to unionize. And sean o'brien referred to that as shuttle brian, the teamsters leader for to. That as economic terrorism, there are all of these data points that suggest that democrats are much more aligned, or at least willing to be pliable. The preferences of union members, including teamsters members and yet it's not about that, right? it's about culture war issues or some other sort of an effect related to trump rather than his policy stances or, or really his record is shocking how many times you will see voters voting against their own interests because of a cultural perception. I mean, listen, the head of the teamsters was at the rnc. He was rallying for trump and for the teamsters then to not endorse trump shows how much dissension there was some tension, there wasn't the ranks biden/harris have gotten pretty much every other union endorsement they also have their own independent field operation, which is often what campaigns rely on unions to get, get the vote out. They've got those community connections. So i think i do see the loss for trump for not having had the endorsement of the union behind the personality that was at his campaign. But this is a huge win for trump. But i mean this is a union who has not endorsed republican since 1988 and has endorsed the democrat almost every single time in 30 years, other than sitting out in 1996. So i think them sitting out is the win that obviously of course you could always have a bigger win but to have that when i think it's huge and i do think this speaks volumes to the fact that the rank and file members of the union as well as democrats in general, are really losing you know, their losing that touch that they had with blue collar workers in this country as a republican, i've just kind of number this because i'm used to not getting a tip just seems like do you think it's speaks louder volumes to these mixed coalitions that we're going to see forum and just kind of the electorate is going to be in a blender showing up to vote in 2020, 2024 in november. And we're going to see all kinds of different different. And i think that leads to some of the noise in the polling that we're seeing to show up. And it's just awkward. We can't put our fingers on i mean, i think the teamsters are essentially a canary in the coal mine of the erosion or dismantling of the old fdr coalition that we've been seeing for a very long time trump did not create that trump accelerated it. You can go back to nixon as relationship with the unions i just want to say, look, i do not credit the head of the teamsters talking about how he is representative of the working man, right? it's a euphemism that a lot of unions used just make it sound like if you're not a member of the union, they don't support a union. That union, the teamsters just got out of federal receivership. So like a quarter of a century because it took them that long to get the mob out of it teamsters. Her historically corrupt goon squad, and there are other unions if i were democrat would be very proud to have in my corner, in teamsters aren't necessarily one of them. But regardless, i were only place i disagree with you is i agree with you. There are a lot of voters who don't vote. Their economic interests anymore. But that is something that is that is scalable up and down the socioeconomic spectrum where we have moved from the old definition of what it means to be left, which is the class conscious of the bernie sanders model. And much more in sort of the cultural politics of the sort of squad model. And that reverberates all over the place. And that's one of the reasons why the white working class democratic. I think that this reveals that there has been a little bit of kind of glossing over the fact that within unions, there are all these racial and cultural tensions. Now, it's just breaking wide open at the idea that everybody can just come under one economic tent that's been questioned for generational issue here, right? we're talking we're in an election right now where there's me 41 million new voters after this election, the majority of the electorate will be between the age of 18 and 45 the union of old were largely appreciated and recognized by the boomer generation. Young workers, gig workers are recognizing the value of unions, but they're going to take a different forum than what the teamsters have taken in the past caved on right to work, which is what the teamsters wanted. But i think the teamsters would have endorsed. Llc. I mean, i will we will see if that ever happens. Catherine. Thank you very much for joining us. Everyone else stick around for us because coming up next, there's a chilling report, the death of two women being linked to abortion bans that were put in place after the fall of roe. 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Donald trump and the supreme court's overturning of roe versus wade joining us in our fifth seat tonight is nyima rosa a journalist and host of the podcast, mixed signals there's a delay here of a couple of years actually between when the dobbs decision came down and when we're hearing about these stories because of the way that states report and investigate these things. But the cases of what the state itself has even preventable death preventable deaths linked to abortion. This is exactly the kind of story that has been incredibly potent for democrats all across the country. Indeed, yeah, i think it's very, it's tragic that it has come to this point right? that there has been a real denial about the cost of abortion laws of the politicization of this issue to such an extent because in states where you have heartbeat bills, even in states where there is exception for the life of the mother, as is the case here, donald trump. Donald trump campaign is pointing to it's? point to the hospital assigning culpability there, but there's also a reality of like it's not just the letter of the law, it's the chilling effect of what the law seems to be, what people believe the law to be just women seeking care and also providers. Yeah. You but i think when you look at the law in georgia specifically, i think it very clearly defines an abortion as the intentional killing of an onboard from child. And in this case, this woman already had an abortion and was not given the care that she deserved at that point she needed a d&c to save her life and they didn't give her that i don't think that there's any excuse for that. And from a legal perspective, that's very clear. Potential med mal case that's the channel is that's the challenge is that that's actually not clear to many of the doctors in these states. It's we're adapting to new laws and frankly, having to change that medicine so the idea of doctors and an emergency room say, i got a i got a call a lawyer before i can do the thing that i've always done that used to be called a medical abortion, but now has become a politicized abortion, right? like you call that a dnc. That is a medical abortion that now falls under this idea of what, what risks. Always an abortion, a walk have a miscarriage and have a dnc falling and ms hall, we understand. Trust me. I got i was the president of the senate in georgia when we passed the heartbeat bill in georgia, i was very intimately involved with the way this process went through. I spent a lot of time meeting with democrats and trying to get their take and input looking back now, there was no way to capture all of the special circumstances, the exceptions, the nuances there was no way to do that in some sort of legislative period of time. And so i recognize that now. And so to hear these stories are heartbreaking and avoidable and if you just purely look through a political lens, this is a losing issue for republicans in a primarily because of primaries, right? as you watch these primaries play out in these debates play out, you watch them try to race each other to the right. No exceptions, period in on one thing after another, after another, but from an empathy standpoint, i do think kamala harris made a made a really, really strong statement made a huge effect in our house when she she took this notion of you don't have to step away from your faith to agree that the government shouldn't have and say so in your life? well, i think many people thought that was 90 people. Can party used to argue, right there used to be a argument of liberty for tearing and conservative argument that was antigovernment government stay out of my body. Governments and of personal choice decisions, right? that's the part that's disappeared and you now see a very particular strain of evangelical definition of conception that goes back to an embryo, which i would compare a seed to a tree and that actually does more to parm, religious freedom, religious liberty, and right to health care access. I think about protecting preborn lives. And i think that's the argument that christians and conservatives across the country make. I don't think that is not in line with what you're saying. Yes. We don't want the government in our lives. We don't want them reaching into our pockets. We don't want them telling us what you're doing. When you're doing you're no, not really making when yields about what you're not legislate, you don't believe in murdering him. You can't murder a preform baby either a belief that if that's the police that you have and that's the belief that many evangelicals years mine, respect others. This is a multitheater. Listen to each other and that is when it gets in, you can open a government. When the government gets in the way of allowing medicine and science to help families, which is not only to make sure women's survive one of the most dangerous things that women can go through, which is a pregnancy but also even the issue of ivf and had expand your family. We have gone off the rails and i think that it's while because we're actually all agreeing on the tragedy of these deaths and they become this meta political argument as opposed to what could be done. And i really appreciate your perspective being on the frontlines of this legislation saying, hey, there was is it enough clarity? there wasn't enough ability to think through all these things. We're seeing these women the harris campaign released an ad today timely, hadley duvall story this morning, kentucky. Let me go ahead and play it because we have that out. Okay? i've never slept a full night my entire life i was 5yearsold when my stepfather abused me for the first time i just don't like i was alone on a planet with a monster 12 when he impregnated me i just remember thinking i have to get out of my skin. I was a child. I didn't know what it meant to be pregnant at all. But i had options because donald trump overturned roe v wade, girls and women all over the country have lost the right to choose even for incest nauseated thing oh ozzy aiding. It already it's incredibly powerful. It's brutally powerful. And like she's sort of unassailable in her narrative. And i pity any republican who wants to sort of have to deal with that the only thing i'd say about all this, i know it's shocking that i've been dying to dive into this conversation. Is that i think the propublica piece that this is all based on did not do a very good job about laying this out it felt like it was leading with its ideological priors and it got to some really inconvenient facts for the narrative. Not until after the 60th paragraph but that said i agree with you entirely that the actual stories of these deaths where whether you're prolife or prochoice or somewhere in the middle, are tragic. And they are the inevitable consequence of the changing of the law. So i agree with that entirely but it's some of this is also possibly attributable to the responses to the changing of the law. And so far as in one of these cases, the abortion pill that was taken was taken later than it's supposed to be because now it has been essentially all access thing which normally would have been done much more closely under a doctor's care. And so you have reactions to reactions to reactions that make the story and much more modest, isn't that the whole problem is that when there are abortion restrictions women are kind of left on their own to figure out why advocate a process that doesn't have to be lifethreatening, life starting just one last question to you because of your role in that georgia bill when you when you hear about the misunderstanding s, mr. Interpretations that delays and care is that something that makes you think? that these kinds of laws at six weeks could have unintended consequences to the point that they do not serve the purpose that they are supposed to. Well, certainly, we're watching unintended consequences. I would never want to see that story from that ad play out. I would never want to see any of these lives in jeopardy or even be at risk. And so certainly the system has got to be nimble enough to be bigger than politics, bigger than winning races. So you have to be able to sit two sides of the argument down at the table at the same time and be able to walk through and layer in additional nuances, additional opportunities to protect to use empathy. Six weeks my wife and i have talked about this. We sat there and made the decision that we recognize as a family life. When a heartbeat starts, we watched our three kids hearts beat the first time we went to the see sonograms that's where are our personal life, right recognizes that i do agree with the kamala harris point where you don't have to step on your faith in all agree that the government shouldn't step in the way. But we also have to be able to have a conversation that doesn't take the extremes. It doesn't take any term abortion and no exceptions. We want some of the most effective things i did as lieutenant governor was sitting the same room with two opposite sides in shrink the size of the problem down. And i think that's where the solutions to this really legitimately sit for you nor americans have great solutions to this. The medical community who have trained and been raised and following the science for decades because the reality is abortions happened before roe v wade, they were unsafe. They were dangerous and once they were covered and part of a medical process, better choices, better health care choices have been made yet, but we're looking at the opposite. Georgia right now. Yeah. Unfortunately, we have to leave it there for this conversation, but sit tight for us because coming up next donald trump is demanding that republicans shut down the government now over a bill that could cast out on november's election results. 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He's demanding that republicans vote against any spending bill that does not include making it mandatory to show proof of citizenship to vote but his reasoning is yes, he falsely claims democrats are registering illegal voters by the tens of thousands so far has demands aren't working 14 republicans joined most democrats to reject an extension that includes that voting issue donald trump, once again, putting this election stuff back on in the agenda, and i just want to play a trump once again, talking about this, i think at this point we all know this is not the kind of thing that his advisers want him to be talking about. I was told if i got 63 million, which is what i got the first time you you would when you can't not when i got millions of more votes than that and lost by a whisker. Are you now acknowledging that you've lost in dollar general it was said, oh, we lost by a whisker that was said sarcastically it's like a week apart. I mean, he is struggling with this in a real way and it's doing damage to republicans. I mean, on capitol hill. They do not want to shut down, or at least the ones who are yeah. I don't know what i'm more mad at. Right. I go back and forth minute to minute, like in my more mad at donald trump trying to sabotage good policy i'll see you in good legislation and keep the keep the trains on time or am i more mad that we're at this appeared to me of stupidity again, and half the people in that room couldn't pass a high school economics class and don't realize the damage that they're doing just to try to prime up an extra 15 likes on twitter, right? like it just infuriates me to watch us get to the spot. And if you really look at the mechanic and so what's going on? we've already budgeted the money and now we just don't want to write the check for it, right? like if we do that at home, we ultimately go to jail or get evicted or lose your car or your wife leaves. You are something. It's part of that bigger everything government is bad unless trump is the one telling you how government should work, right? that's just the broader personality that we deal with. They're shutting down the government. One of those things that actually hits people in very personal ways when we talk about family and pocketbooks economic table, we can all those different expressions you're talking access to national parks, which are the only affordable vacations these days, frankly, for a family of four you're talking about social security checks going out on time tax rebates coming in, time of all of this boring work of government that is not nearly as sexy is talking about culture, war issues that, that's what's being funded right now. And people will feel the difference if it shuts down and trump is the one advocating for it. But i also think it speaks to the sentiment that a lot of people across the country have right now, both republicans, democrats that they're just sick of washington, they're sick of government they really don't like congress. They feel like they spend all the money that they simply don't have at home. We don't get to spend money, we don't have and i think as, you know, all of us have heard time and time again, people don't want the government spending money, they don't have either. And so i think that's why you see such a low approval rating with congress. You know, i was reading for washington times almost ten years ago back in 2015 talking at that point at how we were going to surpass $13 of national debt. And what a disaster would be for our country were now at what 34, 30,435 trillion. I mean, this is an issue that really i don't think could be expressed and stressed and then just imagine if there was a different candidate that was that was in the republican nominee spot and they were able to lean into this as a forwardlooking process. Inject better ideas inject team working that's really what this whole place about is trying to get rid of donald trump out of the republican party. This bank shot that seems a little bit awkward some days i wake up and try to figure out how to get a new republican party stood up. But actually problemsolves and coat and works with the other side? yeah. I don't think he did a good job, but anything has president in that front oh, no. I've got to follow the memory at this point, january 6, death threats on my family $1 trillion with a debt. There's a few things that cloud my memory about the economy which part about the economy? the $8 trillion that led to this hyperinflation period of time that we've got that we just republicans want act like it's the democrats. Better under trump than it is today. I think it was different. But do you think it was better know you can't say it was better in my life was just 2020. Never done. My house is worth more than it's ever done. My portfolio is worth better yes, i pay more for groceries and yesterday are certain incremental issues around this, but at the end of the day, were being disingenuous as republicans acting like donald trump got this right. He's not god, you know, a lot of studies guard, but a lot of people in this country can for the access groceries, they certainly don't wording coming out after that debate, that presidential debate actually, a lot of undecided report, undecided voters were saying, you know, on that question about the immigration bill, donald trump obstructing that, not from a seat of a power, but from his role in the republican party, not checking him on the economy falling what that she had an opportunity care about immigration, why are you not backing a bill that would protect the borders by partisan bill that we'll have catching releasing it genuinely believe that donald trump thinks this spending bill was bad. What do you think you do? i do generally believe that he thinks that i disagree whether it's good or bad. You don't think it's good for him politically, you don't think he woke up this morning more hahahahah jeff why? that's this is an interesting conversation because i i think you're both wrong. I don't think it's about the economy and i don't think that it's actually politically beneficial to him. I think this is about donald trump yes. Totally wanting to acknowledge that loss. This is about continuing to try to make excuses about why the last election that he lost was actually free and fair. So i think that's the open for disagree with you. I think this is more setting the predicate if he loses the next time. Well, that is that predicate is not only being set by his rhetoric, i want to be very keen on that point is that arizona, there's an effort to invalidate 100,000 votes for a ballots right now rather voter registration, hundred thousand voter registration. And let's not forget, arizona was the one that fox news called that started to tip the wave towards trump winning. So that's a very particular state for him. Those 100,000, because if they don't have updated citizenship records majority of those actually voters are older and republican that might be kicked off on the roles, but there's an effort in every battleground state to fight every single ballot tooth and nail to try. Georgia. He's he's stacking the deck with our elections committee, which i didn't even know was a thing until he became lieutenant governor. But now we've got a voting majority to, to sow seeds of doubt in every corner of our state, just in case he he needs to use that as a lifelong and jonah jonah is right. It's not just about the last one. It's about the one that is coming i mean, just a couple of days ago. I mean, he was threatening proactively that he would jail election workers i mean and former elected officials threats right now, it's the lady who's volunteering at the local county to make sure people are getting in line and they know where to go. Those are the people being threatened by rhetoric like that. It goes to the idea shot a second time. I mean, this does not go one way. Back to what's going on locally and communities with real people who don't have secret service to help them out. That is part of the challenge, right? when you end invalidate, when you invalidate the civic engagement and how we connect to their communities and volunteers become targets. That's, that's a problem. Yes, i get back to the other point is just this is just terrible politics. I mean, like it's mike johnson wants to get a budget passed because if they shut down the government, republicans will be blamed for whether you think it's fair or not. They will be blamed for it because they're controlling the congress and that will cost an all likelihood the republicans control of the house and johnson is only doing this this voter integrity thing. I'm sure he believes in it. And on the merits, i think you can believe in it. That's fine. 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Master artists have revered the human shape, evoking profound emotions and admiration we should honor our bodies and embrace the time is tradition of using art as a powerful means of self expression it's the stock photos for me, by the way, i was not aware that the media was scrutinizing her career, at least not in quite some time i think there were some dudes who are scrutinizing are new pictures that that's a little different. But yeah, i like i wrote about this today, but like just the whole pretense that there was a that the real question is, why is the media focusing on you know, having problems with the new form? and it's like literally this is a story that broke years ago and no one has been talking about this at all. But you have to come up with some sort of hook but blamed the media for something and i with laura loomer hanging around donald trump in that vein, use all last week, it's a good time to remind people that melania is a very attractive woman. I will say in all seriousness, know, i remember as i was saying before the era of being so scandalous when a first lady even worse sleeveless dresses, which is something very normal for americans. I don't think most american women have posed for nude photos, but this is an interesting idea and i welcome the stock photos and let's do some art history together now, i need a little bit more of a millennia, like deep dive here, because the idea that she's even writing this book and then promoting it. But let me check the board for the election. I am not understanding what she's not just promoting the book. She is actually promoting her husband. This is the latest in a series of videos. She's been releasing about the book melania, and they are all as someone who makes films and documentaries very i darkly lit ominous, and they take on themes from motherhood to her nude modeling career, to search and seizure or the fourth amendment. And what happened in mar alago, which has not yes. Backed with constitutional writings and pictures of the forefoot of the founding fathers at some moment when i first saw it in my feed, i wondered if it was like an a. I. Dali you know, kind of generated things she the one that i think the thing that is concerning about it is that it is it is is lot trending towards conspiratorial. It's cryptic and it's almost carrie bradshaw, me. It's conspiratorial. I found myself wondering why the secret service didn't arrest the man. And there must be there there's more to find out and we must find the truth. And this is the truth and this is unusual month of conspiracy theory is really not one of the more unique things i got to do as lieutenant governors, my wife and i ended up somehow some way in the limo with donald trump and melania. And for like 30 minutes and it was like a really engaging conversation. She talked about you know, my wife and her talk about raising kids, but none of those new pictures that came up in the conversation, but i've stopped trying to explain mr. And mrs. Trump. It just doesn't make sense in any sort of political fashion and it's certainly not the things we like. My wife and i don't talk about porn stars and nude pictures that are kitchen table. I assume they probably well as the only person here of the six of us who may actually buy and read the book. I'm actually looking forward to hearing her perspective on some things as the first lady she was obviously a little bit quieter than other first lady. She wasn't quite as involved. I'm interested in hearing what she has to say. I liked her clip that she put out promoting the book about being a mom and how that really changed her perspective in life. And i thought that was a good one. And obviously what was a strong at the press push that they're doing is working because we're all talking about it tonight so she should have gotten a cover i don't think we can agree on. I don't have a bmi bond about melania trump, particularly maybe you don't but people did slam her over her modeling career despite the fact that as an immigrant, she really did come here to chase her american dream was wildly successful in doing so. And people really slammed her about some of those photos. But didn't slam mothers like lizzo and other people that wanted to get out there because he got we got a lot more to get to tonight. Everyone stay with me coming up next. The panel will give us their night caps, including why america is right now hitting a boiling point is the smartest sunday is ever done this for a living james was famous for winning basis change, believes that change width it's the economy stupid i apologize, it's a no want that man is the two fisted catcher. 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What's your name again laura coates live next on cnn closed captioning brought to you by mesobook. Com if you are loved one have mesothelial will send you a free book to answer questions you may have call now and we'll come to you 800 a31, 3,700 we are back and it's time for the news nightcap. You each have 30 seconds to say your piece, jeff, your first much like a frog boiling in water over time, you just forget how serious things are getting you just realized that you don't realize that you're sitting in in treachery. This country has gotten to a boiling point and it's a bipartisan problem. It seems to be more heavily shaded in the current period of time with trump and vance, but it's certainly a bipartisan problem if you're in springfield, ohio and you're a haitian, you're scared about going to work tomorrow. If you're a poll worker in fulton county, georgia, you're probably scared about going to the polls. And if you're the former lieutenant governor and there's times that you're scared because of somebody thinking you took money from the chinese or the venezuelans, or somebody else, we need to do better. We should do better. We deserve better yeah, if this week has taught us anything, it is that indeed at jonah as the polls are, the polls still very, very tight, but the trends are not in the, are not going great for donald trump in terms of the momentum and the shifts. And i think that since we miss the traditional august trump firing of staff and campaign workers to shake things up. I think that if these polls continue to go that way we're going to see some very least, some pollsters get fired. Maybe tony for fabrizio, who came out, who worked on a pole with arp saying was constants in jeopardy for trump? and trump likes to say his own pollster is also has them winning by huge amount. I think we're going to start seeing some defenestration of trump's staffed. There's still plenty of time for that. Madison. I have a little lighthearted one or crypto bros ready to take over the political world. Trump today scene, making his first bitcoin purchase, handing out some burgers to people here in manhattan. And of course, earlier in the week, doing his very first x live livestream, they call her life space. I mean, i don't do things to begin with the crypto grow, obviously there trying to dig deep infiltrate the political system, filling that hole left i can bake ministry also have a crypto business is not part of the ties into crypto and that's why they're loving it. But there really are, they're trying to get trying to get involved all across selfinterest as well i imagine all right thank you. My mind is, are we watching the same or any of us watching the same thing? and what are people watching right now? there used to be a time we're never going to get back to americans watching the same news broadcasters. But there used to be a time where would watch the same television show while before our time, there was mash and for a moment in time, there was limp because there was the sopranos and there were some what's good tv. And since succession and yellowstone, there hasn't been that since peak yellowstone, there hasn't been that moment that convening of a cultural conversation. And i think that's missing right now. I think people are actually hungry for it. There nostalgic for it. That's like select me are watching the sopranos or your husband. I just took a photo in front of tony soprano, his house last month, jersey watch washington with you on that was that is that is the communal. But but not tv. I mean, there are probably some gen zers who are like, don't know if that's natural outcome of fragmentation and streaming and all this. And as a creator, it's good for creative energy. You get lots of international content. But it is the decline in american softpower and a decline in our coming together. All right? i mean, this is also not that serious, but i do think people need to understand that this season of love is blind of now based in dc. And this is not at all what the dating pool in dc looks like our way to fitted the titles are normal, usually a title that you would run into a political dc would be something like specialists so stunt to the adviser of mucketymucks and the first question in a dating scenario would be, oh, who do you work