Fathom events the news continues the source with kaitlan saying the source tonight, diddy denied bail and could remain locked up until trial as prosecutors lay out a shocking case, my exclusive interview with his attorney live tonight also out or is after blaming her for the second apparent attempt to kill him daughter was on the phone with vice president harris today as his running mate is defending amplifying lies about migrant, about immigrants and the inside story from the person who was there the moment the secret service agents dove on top of the former president, we're going to speak to donald trump's solve partner live tonight. I'm kaitlan collins, and this is the source moments, the attorney for sean diddy combs will join me, onset in his first interview since a pretty dramatic court appearance this afternoon sun or the megastar pleaded not guilty to federal charges of racketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking, and transportation of prostitution did a remains in jail tonight as his team is arguing for his release. This is all coming as prosecutors are painting one of music's biggest moguls as a monster all the names that sean combs has gone by over the years. Puff daddy p, diddy, diddy. They're now all being used as officially government aliases, replaced for the time being with an inmate number. Diddy went from receiving the key to new york city doubt that long ago, two being held right now at the metropolitan detention center? they're in brooklyn as he is facing the possibility of decades in prison. Federal prosecutors accused him of running what they call a criminal enterprise that went on for years. The evidence is laid out and a newly unsealed federal document accusing the threetime grammy winner of being a violent man. And i'm quoting from them now all that saying that he engaged in a persistent and pervasive pattern of abuse toward women and other individuals abuse that they say, quote, was at times verbal, emotional, physical, and sexual prosecutors say that combs manipulated women to participate in highly orchestrated performances of seconds phil activity with male commercial sex workers, maintaining control of these women, they say, by quote, distributing narcotics to them controlling their careers, leveraging his financial support, and threatening to cut off the same. And also using intimidation and violence combs allegedly planned and control the sex performances, which he called free gauff's and he often electronically recorded them the freak offs, sometimes lasted days at a time, involve multiple commercial sex workers and often involved a variety of narcotics, such as ketamine ecstasy, and ghb which combs distributed to the victims to keep them obedient and compliant. Did is denying the allegations and pleaded not guilty in court this afternoon prosecutors are arguing that they can back up the charges with dozens of witnesses and a mountain of evidence my lead source tonight is marc agnifilo, attorney for sean diddy combs, who was there with him in court today. And it's great to have you because the bail well, part was what you were arguing for that he should be released. The judge disagreed with you today you're appealing that actually tomorrow how likely is it do you think you'll win on that appeal given the judge today said there were no conditions. She saw it that could ensure that he would show up for court. So thank you. Kaitlan. So i think we have a good shot tomorrow. Tomorrow, we argue in front of the district court judge whose case this is. Today, we argued from of a magistrate judge who's case. This is not will never have this magistrate as our judge again, but tomorrow we argue in front of judge carter and it's judge carter's case till the end. So hope springs eternal and but i think we have strong arguments and i think we have a good chance. Well, and what prosecutors are arguing is not only does your client pose a flight risk because obviously he's incredibly wealthy, has access to planes and a lot of staff, even though you said he turned over his passport two months ago, they about him being able to interfere with witnesses and calling them and so i guess the question is, how do you assure the court that that won't happen if prosecutors are saying this is someone who's attempted to bribe security staff and has already threatened and interfered with witnesses. So i think the most important thing even more important than the passport is that mr. Combs came to new york on september 5, soon as we realized that this indictment was going to be coming down in a matter of weeks, maybe months, but sometimes soon mr. Combs got on a plane, left his home in florida, flew to new york. I call the prosecutors myself. I said mr. Combs is in new york. Do you want to know where he is? if you want to where he is, i'll tell you where he is, but he wants to surrender he's here to surrender. They didn't want him to surrender because if he surrenders, they don't get to tell the judge that he's a flight risk and he's a danger because who as a danger and a flight risk would fly to new york and surrender. So they didn't want him to surrender. So since september 5, you had known you expected it was likely he was going to formally face charges so i really knew he was formerly going to face charges on on march 25, the day of the searches, when when homeland security searched his los angeles home, his miami home, and his airplane i knew that day by looking at the search warrants. I mean, this is i've been doing this for a while. This is not my first or 100th rodeo i'm that this was going to come as a matter of time. What i realized in early september is that it was coming soon and so it was time for mr. Combs to come to new york, which he did. And let me just point out 11 very important thing that the prosecutors are seizing on something that happened eight years ago. This video that we've all seen, and it's a bad video from mr. Combs and he said so himself, when he gave his apology. This is eight years ago and the prosecutors are talking about him bribing a hotel security worker there was no criminal investigation. This was just a matter of personal embarrassment because he and the person in the video we're in the midst of attention here relationship that was difficult at times that was toxic at times, but it was mutually so this whole notion that mr. Combs is forcing drugs on someone is just nonsensical and it's going to prove to not be true. Well, that video he initially denied the allegations when his then girlfriend, who is in that video filed a lawsuit last fall and we have that video. I should note cnn was the first ella to exclusively report on it he denied that that happened when she filed a complaint and then when the video came out is when he apologized for it. So i wasn't his lawyer back then, so i don't and i don't think he did. I mean, i think the lawyers were the ones mostly making the denials. I think there were denying sex crimes. I mean, because at the end of the day, the gravamen of that civil complaint wasn't a misdemeanor assault, which is what you see on that video, not minimizing it, but it's a misdemeanor assault what the gravamen of the complaint was with sex crimes, and he denied that and he still does. Well, in you're saying that this is all just about that one relationship, but when you read through the indictment, they say that there's not just one victim. They say there's multiple that dems here today. And what i heard described was they said they have 50 witnesses or victims. Yeah. I think it's 49 nine witnesses and one victim i think if you broke it down and i say that because count two, which is the sex trafficking count, has victim number one and there is no victim number two anywhere in the indictment so you're saying that there are not other women because what they were essentially arguing here is that he coerced and forced women into sex acts by using physical force, financial pressure, emotional abuse, and narcotics. But what they described as these freak off sessions, they saying that he is selfdescribed as that yeah, there's there's one victim in the indictment the charges king, dr. Doom does count i don't know, of course, but i'm just not it's not 50. I mean, what they did is a little too cute is it's 50 witnesses or victims. Well, it's it's one victim that's all that's in the indictment are reporter who was in the courtroom today said that he appeared to have a stunned expression on his face. Was he surprised that he was arrested last night? no. Oh, he definitely was not. I mean, i told him myself in early september you are going to be arrested soon and you're going to be charged with racketeering and you even charged with sex trafficking, come to new york it wasn't a long conversation. He agreed. So we knew this was coming. And in fact, we offered that he would turn himself in. So if there are these these witnesses and victims and you're it's go to court and argue that they that they witnessed this behavior by your client. Well what's your defense against? my mind? the defense is very well established i interviewed myself. The different men who were being brought into mr. Combs and this person's intimate situation i've flown around the country, i've interviewed a large number of them, does not the slightest inkling according to the interviews that i've done of anything that's coercive, non consensual. Nobody was too drunk, nobody was too high. These were adults interrelate. This is a ten year relationship. We can't forget that this is a ten year relationship and it was adults and consensual and everybody who was there wanted to be there. So i feel very common our he said you interviewed the men, but what about the women i haven't interviewed the won the woman's not available to me. She's a presumably a grand jury witness and we would not we cannot try to interview a grand jury witness. And you don't think that there are any other women who are going to say that they were coerced into it? this given drugs. And essentially as prosecutors were saying that that's what kept them compliant. So there are a lot of women in these civil cases. There's been there's been a mountain of civil cases ever since the civil case that was filed in november i don't see them as victims in the indictment. That's my point. And so when you talk about that that video of cassie ventura, that was his then girlfriend in the video. I mean, just when you saw that, you said it's a bad video, it's pretty difficult to watch. It is no question so let me but let me tell you what, how about be used as evidence in court. Do you think 100% 100%. What i said in court today, and i'll say it again here is the two of them were in a hotel. It was just the two of them. And hotel room she found out that he was seeing someone else. She was going through his phone she hit him in the head with his with his own phone. And then she walks into the into the hallway with two bags. One of the bags has all of his clothing that she is taking from him, which is why he runs out in the towel. So this isn't her fleeing from one of these freak offs. Why would she take his clothing? that's not what it is. And when the evidence comes out, this is going to be completely different than the government's but on this video, i just want to show that again now, how do you defend against allegations that he hit kicked, and dragged women when he's on video hitting kicking and dragging a woman i'm sure it's not. He's not charged with hitting, kicking, and dragging what he's charged with sex trafficking. And he didn't traffic anybody. But he's charged with a conspiracy here where he was using physical abuse emotional abuse, financial pressure as prosecutors alleged to keep these women in his fold maybe maybe just cassie ventura, but keeping these women in the fold, cassie ventura lived by herself. She had her own house she had a family. She had a career, and he was seeing another woman at the time. He wasn't around a lot. She could have done whatever she wanted to do. All of these allegations of oi it was forced i was coerced. I had to stay or nonsense and it's gonna be proven to be so that video in the indictment, it alleges that your client paid hotel staff $50,000 to make it disappear from the hotel surveillance system. Did he pay off the hotel staff? not that i know of. I know that's an allegation. I don't know well, that that that is true. What i was concerned about when i heard about this allegation is whether there was an allegation that there was some sort of law enforcement investigation pending because then that would be a crime. But there was none. And so this is not a crime you talked about? you, said you're portraying this as adults who were at these events that wanted to be i shouldn't even call them events. That's not certainly how anyone else would would label it but that they wanted to be there. But they also alleged that they were recorded. And essentially used as blackmail. Is that not true? that's not true. That's not how can you prove that when they have electronic evidence that as they argue, over 90 cell phones, laptops, icloud storage accounts, 30 electronic and storage devices, hard drives, thumb drives, or not worried about that because if they had, they would have put it in the indictment. That's not in the indictment when it comes to your clients credibility, i think people will look at it. What he said last fall and it's not just his attorneys. I mean, he pays those attorneys there speaking on his behalf. They're the ones calling her at her claims baseless and ridiculous. When you read the indictment today, they line up with what she alleged in that loss last fall if the claim is that he had unwanted sex with her and that claim is baseless and it will be proven to be baseless when we have a trial. But the claim is obviously the conspiracy, the racketeering its much larger than just that. Obviously, as you know, it is. But but the government wants it to be. But, but, but count two, which is the sex trafficking count, relates to one person and one person alone all of this talk of dozens of victims and 50 witnesses if they had that, they really had it. It would be in the indictment. It's not in the indictment. So then why was he reaching out to so many of these people after it was clear this investigation was picking up steam so he will firstly, i don't think it's clear that he was reaching out they said in the memo that he reached out to one person. I believe 48 times in three days. So i think i know you're talking about there there was a civil complaint who plays no role in the criminal case whatsoever, who brought a civil case against mr. Combs, and she was in a band and another one of the band member says, i was in the same banned. She was and none of the things that she's complaining about in her complaint, i saw none of those things. And so she came forward made a statement. She's not a witness. She's not a government witness, but after 48 pieces of outreach, whether calls or texts from your client i don't i don't know that it's 48 you know, i and there there's someone who had had a business relationship. So it makes sense that, combs would speak to her. There's no there's no there's no allegation that this person was saying something false. So this person was somehow coerced into saying these things. And if you read the statement, the statement is actually quite soft and respectful it's, it's i respect that this person has this perspective i was in the band at the same time. I never saw such things is there any chance sean combs takes a plea deal? i don't see it happening. I do not see it happening he he's he's innocent. I believe he's innocent. I believe he's innocent of the charges. And he is going to go to trial. And i believe he's going to win marc agnifilo. Thank you for joining us tonight. Thank you. Appreciate your time we're going to take a break and switch gears also talk about presidential politics still ahead and the latest, including this comment tonight for my kids keep me humble. Unfortunately, kamala harris doesn't have anything keeping her humble that was sarah huckabee sanders at a town hall with donald trump earlier this evening. More on that next gulf partner who was there the moment secret service jumped on top of donald trump will speak to him in a moment smartest son is ever done this for a living famous for winning races. Change believes that change width if the economy stupid all right apologizing to know want that man is up to fisted catcher? i am saying publicly what people are saying things out. I have enough money i can just shut up. Winning is everything stupid? saturday, october 5th on cnn. 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Switch today! branded walden rush to walmart, ultra berberine and superior cmos from force back on. Rafael romo at the georgia state capitol in atlanta. This is cnn just moments ago we heard from diddy's attorney who is defending him after he pled not guilty earlier today, here on the source disputing what that indictment that was unsealed about 9:30 30 this morning, an alleged and that what did he had what he referred to as freak offs were a prosecutor say he drug and coerce victims and to extended sex acts with male sex workers flown around the country. I've interviewed a large number of them, does not the slightest inkling according to the interviews that i've done. Anything that's coercive, nonconsentual nobody was too drunk, nobody was too high these were adults interrelation. This is a ten year relationship. We can't forget that this is a tenyear relationship. And it was adults and consensual and everybody who was there wanted to be there cnn's senior legal analyst, elie honig, was a prosecutor for the southern district of new york. He joins me now. Just tell me, elie, you were here in studio listening what stood out to you from what mark had to say. Okay, let i think you just got a really telling sneak preview of how marc agnifilo is going to defend sean combs in this case. What he's going to try to do. And i think it's a smart strategy is divide and conquer. And what you heard marc saying just now as well, if you look at each of these acts in isolation, he saw said, it's a misdemeanor assault. It's a state crime. It's too old. This isn't a federal crime. And defense lawyers often try to do that because they want to try to knock down piece by piece the problem that the defense is going to have here is the rico charge count one of this statement which i used to charge all the time, use all the time as a prosecutor, it allows prosecutors to show the jury the entirety of the evidence, even if some of it is not a federal crime, even if some of it is a misdemeanor, even if some of it is a state crime or too old, you are allowed to put that all together and give it to the jury and say, if you find this was an ongoing enterprise that committed more than one crime, then he's guilty. So this is a common struggle. It's clear that sean combs is team is going to try to divide and conquer prosecutors to say, look at the whole picture and the enterprise they're alleging is his company all the people who worked for him, they talked about the people who would go in stock these rooms where they had these these parties and then they seized a lot of that as part of this that baby oil. The other thing he said that stood out was in the indictment, it says it talks about 50 witnesses, 50 victims and witnesses, many of whom saw are experienced his abuse. He said he thinks it's 49 witnesses in one victim, the victim, of course, would be cassie ventura has girlfriend. Is that what prosecutors can they do that i have real doubts that that's the case. If it is one victim and 49 witnesses you will get excoriated by the judge as a prosecutor because that's dicey to describe this, but it's misleading. The other thing is the indictment and agnifilo was looking at count too. He said there's only one like when he said that's cassie. But if you look at count one, again, the racketeering indictment, it lists it says in the pleural, multiple victims. And today when the u. S. Attorney was asked how many victims do you have? he was cagey, but he said multiple, so it's not going to be just one victim obviously, it cassie is going to be a very important victim, but it's clear to me there are others one of the most damaging pieces of evidence that we knew about before this even happened was the video that elizabeth wagmeister broke here on cnn, that disturbing video of in the hallway which he himself acknowledged is a bad video. Though he was trying to argue that what happened before here is different though. I don't think anything can excuse that behavior he did say he thinks that will be used in court do you think that it makes a difference what he's arguing happened beforehand to how a jury could see that potentially devotee i was going to be a big problem. I think mark is experienced enough to know that it was interesting. He said 100%, he said to you, that's going to be used at trial. I thought he might say i'm going to try to keep that out but he seems ready to take it on the problem is, even if the characterization we just heard is correct, even if it was a fight just between a couple having having a spat, it's still a shows that visceral act of violence. I mean, think of the impact that's going to have on the jury. The other thing, as you pointed out, is he denied it until the video came out and that's going to hurt he even if he doesn't testify, that's going to hurt his credibility. That's going to make the jury think that he understood something was really wrong with this. So that video, interesting to hear him say he thinks it's going to come in and that's going to be a problem for the defense for sure. Yeah. Though he thinks ultimately that his client he said it will be proven in the job obviously, we'll see what happens. Elie honig. Thank you for listening to that and breaking it down for us. Obviously, we will continue to follow that and that bail hearing that is set to happen tomorrow afternoon, up next for us here though, former president trump is back on the campaign trail. This is the first time we're seeing him out in public since that second apparent assassination attempt on saturday, he had a rare phone call but vice president harris will listen to trump himself describe it in a moment tv on the edge premieres sunday at nine on cnn did i read this? good? i get eggs, where my keys don't wait while memory and thinking issues pile up these issues may seem like normal aging, but could be due to a buildup of amyloid plaques in the brain amyloid can build up over time. The sooner you talked to your doctor, the more options you may have visit amyloid we. 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Did america series premiere october 4th to die in on hgtv tonight, former president donald trump at his first campaign event in public since that second appearance, apparent assassination attempt on his life why i get shot at, right? you know only consequential presidents get shot at when i say something like that, you have countries saying this guy. But what can you do? you have to do, you have to do what you have to do, right while he was there, trump also spoke about something that doesn't really happen that often. A phone call between former president donald trump and vice president harris today, i a little while ago, i got an a very nice call from kamala was very nice it, was very nice if there was very, very nice and we appreciate that. I checked on to see if he was okay and i'm i told him what i have said publicly, that there's no place for political violence in our country by sources tonight, are it a political insiders, former senior adviser to hillary clinton's 2016 campaign, karen finney, and also the republican strategist and pollster, kristen soltis anderson. So it's great to have you both here. Christina's to you first as, you know, listening to trump talk about his call with harris today, the crowd was booing and he said no, as he was describing it as very nice. I was just thinking back to him yesterday and the language he was using saying that he does believe democrats and harris are to blame for what happened happen to him on sunday. Obviously, a marked difference than how they talked about this after what happened in butler in july, president well, look, donald trump has been very clear that he thinks people are after him, that he has long said that the world wants to keep him from being president and so this is part of that consistent message. Well, i think right now it's at least in terms of the first assassination attempt, there's really not a lot of evidence of any kind of clear political leaning. And the second shooter or attempted shooter still seem to have very unclear motives. I do think that at a certain point donald trump's allowed to be mad that people are trying to shoot at him. And i understand that it's probably not wise to blame your opponent for it. I don't think that's smart, but i do think that in the aftermath of being shot at once, an almost shot at a second time the sort of notion of well, you know, is donald trump somehow in the wrong are causing this just does not rubbed me the right way. Karen finney i mean, what's your take on all this? i'm so sorry, i couldn't hear the audio. Just what i just you couldn't hear the audio of trump. It was trump and harris describing what happened earlier today, talking about this call, obviously, harris saying that she wanted to just check on trump to make sure he's okay. She said she repeated her language about political violence, never being okay. Trump describing it as this nice call, but obviously, how that comes after how he was talking about it yesterday yeah. It struck me. I mean, look, i will give him a little bit of grace that he was probably in shock yesterday. It's just it was disappointing. Obviously, to hear that and of language because again, we don't know the motivations of either of these gentleman and you never know, unfortunately, and this is one of the reasons we all need to be responsible with our platforms when we talk that, you don't know how people are going to take things that you say. So we don't know what might have triggered these individuals i apologize for using that word, but it struck me that the intention of this event tonight, particularly with sarah huckabee sanders as the person who is clinically interviewing him is potentially to appeal to women, suburban women in particular, where he continues on to struggle with those voters. So perhaps it was trying to be a kinder, gentler. Donald trump as a way to create this event that seems to have been targeted to women. Well, i'm glad you brought that up because there was something that governor sarah sanders, who obviously was donald trump's press secretary, said about vice president harris at the town hall tonight. Kristen, listen to this you can walk into a room like this where people cheer when you step onto the stage and you might think for a second that you're special then you go home and your kids remind you very quickly you're actually not that big of a deal so my kids keep me humble unfortunately doesn't have any you think keeping her home loan kristen soltis anderson, we just got over, you know, childless cat, ladies gate and the concerns even heard from republicans who said it wasn't helpful and appealing to women. Harris, it doesn't have any biological children, but she is a stepmother to two children you're right. And that statement, as you listened to sarah huckabee sanders speak, you know, it was it was very touching statement up until that very last part where she kind of tried to get a dig in on the vice president and it seems unnecessary to me. I mean, i think of sarah huckabee sanders is somebody who's a potentially really great messenger to women, two young moms across the country. I thought that the remarks she made it the republican convention, where some of the best in terms of showing a different side of donald trump. And so to the extent that that was a job tonight, it's unfortunate that its undercut by that need to try to twist the knife and a little bit to vice president harris karen, what did you make of that comment i agree. And i think i also just think it's unwise to continue to attack those of us who don't have children mean there are plenty of young women in this country who don't have children who may yet one day have children who will vote in this election. There there are plenty of us who are beyond our childbearing years, who will vote in this election who don't have children. But that doesn't mean we don't have people and circumstances and things in our lives that keep us humble. And certainly as a stepmother, i'm sure that kamala harris has experienced a teenage are rolling their eyes at her for one thing or another so it just seems it was unnecessary i agree with kristen. It was unnecessary, but also it just seems like a very dumb strategy because there's so many women that you turn off with that. And really the messages you but don't get to be part of our america. You don't get to be part of the country that we see that we envision. Then it leaves you to say, well, okay, then i'm going to take a look at kamala harris yeah, there's lots of nontraditional families out there. Karen finney kristen soltis anderson. Great to have you both tonight up next we're going to talk about what's happening on capitol hill. Obviously, you've heard from donald trump and the campaign trail talking about protecting ivf republicans on the senate had that chance today, but voted against a bill the democrats would say, just, would do just that. 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Liebermann at the pentagon this is cnn blocked a bill that would guarantee access to the very thing that a lot of them say they support it's also the very thing that we have heard from donald trump say that he supports democrats, tried and failed again to pass that measure, which would guarantee access to ivf nationwide and tonight they are using this vote to hammer republicans who said no. My source tonight on this is republican senator tom cotton of arkansas, senator great to have you here. Here because you and your fellow senate republicans mostly voted against this, arguing that it's a show vote. But donald trump is, you know, recently pledged g their have insurance companies or the government pay for for tillery treatments. So would you have voted for a bill like this if he was in office? well, kaitlan first off after correct. Almost everything you said in the lead in their almost none of which was accurate about this bill. First off, there's no risk to ivf in this country. All 49 republican senators along with president trump support ivf no state restricts or bans ivf second, this bill more than just ivf you said that it had to guarantee access. Access is guaranteed in all 50 states right now, you also said that it was about ivf is about a lot more than ivf. This bill would mandate cuts a bridge for experimental controversial procedures like cloning or gene editing or providing fertility treatments to men who think they're women, whatever that means, it would also impair or religious liberty i support ivf as president trump does, we also think that we should allow say, christian hospitals to operate there? for fairs as they see fit according to the dictates, their conscience. Now it's not surprising that democrats don't agree with that. They've long persecuted christians like the little sisters of the poor. They wanted to provide contraception coverage for nines harass catholics were going to traditional mass. That's what this bill is about. Caitlin know kaitlan you're not going to stop there because you're misrepresenting what the bill is about. The bill is about religious liberty. Let's have a conversation about this bill this legislation itself, you're saying what i said was inaccurate that this would guarantee access to ivf, which is what it would do. You're saying that no state a restricts it, but no state guarantees it. The issue which i know well, because this happened to my home state of alabama is a court ruling that embryos count as children and then these ivf clinics, a lot of them closed in alabama as a result of this because they're worried about lawsuits are about the state attorney general coming after that. That is why this is an issue. And your candidate, donald trump has said that he would like to see ivf and people have access to this. So do you support guaranteeing access to ivf? so a ruling like that one in alabama would not imperil someone's access to it by clinics thing while i'm going to close because i'm worried about facing a lawsuit here or criminal charges example of alabama proves my point. You have the supreme court of alabama ruling on an old law. They've built their hands were constrained by a law. And what happened? the political branches of the alabama government who are elected by and accountable to the people promptly passed a new law that guaranteed access to ivf in alabama. The same way every other state guarantees access to ivf. This bill in the senate was not about guaranteeing access to ivf, which has not threatened in any state. It was about radical experimental, controversial treatments things like gene editing or cloning. And it infringes upon religious liberties, which again, shouldn't be surprising because the democrats are the party that want to harass and persecute nuns or investigate catholics were going to traditional masses. That's why we oppose that bill and will continue to oppose it. But senator, this bill would have guaranteed access to ivf and you're saying that it would force people to do things against their religious beliefs. I should note this bill doesn't require anyone to perform any operations or procedures is just says that people should have access to ivf in it also talks about having insurance companies cover over the cost for fertility treatments, something that your candidate support. So just to be clear, i'm not misrepresenting the bill. You can say you don't like it. You can say that you think it's a show vote. You can talk about those aspects of it, but this is something that was put up there and it would have guaranteed access to ivf. So let me ask you while you're here, given you're a major surrogate for the trump campaign? his proposal here is that he would like to either have the government or insurance companies cover the cost for fertility treatments. Has the campaign explained to you yet how he would pay for that plan? rayman gotten that far kaitlan, i think i and most other legislators would have questions about the cost to taxpayers or the cost and higher premiums. And as always, and ensuring that we respect the religious liberty rights of all americans. Again, president trump and i support ivf as do all elected republicans. But i respect any american who has a different point of view, especially if there are health care provider or work with a catholic charity and they want their religious liberty respected. That's what we would do. Democrats would not do that so if you're an american out there and you're someone who maybe is in alabama and you're worried about having access to ivf, not because the state is saying that they're going to make it illegal, but because there's no clinics open in the state because they're worried about supreme court rulings that that could imperil access to it and if the legislature had not acted, which they did under political pressure, if you're someone out there and you're looking at these two candidates here ahead of november donald trump and vice president harris, and they see what trump is saying. He'll do, but there wanting to know is this real? and if there's no plan to pay for it, how did they know that it's a real proposal well, kaitlan again, ivf is not at risk in any state in the alabama example proves the point the legislature acted promptly. What it was your access to? because a supreme court decision that happens all the time in periled access to decisions, what caitlin courts make decisions, interpreting laws, often old laws that haven't been updated to reflect changed circumstances all the time. And legislatures come back and they change those laws that's what happened here. Okay. But my question was about the plan to pay for the proposal again well, we can review those details if future time there's reasonable questions about the cost of it, either the taxpayer and premiums, and how we protect the religious liberty of all of our citizens but donald trump, just like all senate republicans and for the most part, most republicans i know all support ivf. What we don't support, our the kind of radical proposals that kamala harris has address luck on the abortion question. She wants a nationwide abortion law that would mandate all states allow partial birth abortion up to the moment of birth, and deny lifesaving care for any child who is born during a botched abortion. That's what's truly radical and of course, as you know, she wants roe versus wade codified into law, which would go up to viability about 24 weeks. Senator tom knows that she won't answer a single, she won't answer a question about where she won't answer a question about what month? it is appropriate to reasonably protect the rights of unborn children. The eighth month, is it the ninth month? she won't answer any of those questions. Kaitlan, she knows her radical views on these questions are out of step with the american people. And senator tom cotton, donald trump did not say on that debate stage as well when she didn't answer that question, if he would veto a national abortion ban, we're out of time, unfortunately, senator tom cotton, thank you very much thank you up. 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The comfort starts at my hands free sketches go walk, slip is new reporting tonight as we're learning that the acting head of the secret service told tomer president donald trump he would need substantial security enhancements to happen if he wants to keep playing golf safely at his private clubs? my inside source tonight is steve witkoff, a longtime friend of donald trump's who was on the golf course with him on sunday when all this happened. And steve one let me just say i'm so grateful that both of you and the former president or rok, i mean, you were only one of the only people who was there when all of this happened. Can you just describe the scene that day? for us? we've got to the fifth hole. Were on the grain and i heard the first shot i'm a gun carrier, so i showed so it was apparent that that's what it was with three shots right after that in quick succession it seemed to be coming from the righthand corner of the course, which is where the sixth hole is. That's that's the whole that is fronting congress avenue i i was up the entire time. I just for some reason that i can't really explain to you. I just never crowd shutdown or got behind the golf cart. So i was looking to my left, the president was being was being taken away. The secret service were amazing, by the way. They were i mean, the job they did was exemplary. They were on top of him probably after the first shot and then i heard another three and they were getting a matter there and what seemed to be like 15 or 20 seconds. He of course, is the protectee and that's the job and they did it as professionally as i could imagine, it could ever be done yeah. So basically, you heard the shots and then the agents kind of grabbed grabbed the former president and put him on a card and take him away. Is that what happened well, there were there were agents doing what looked to me like three things. One, a group of agents who were securing the president, making sure he was okay. Each and every one of them was covering him and so they were in between where we are fire would have come from and the president. So they were they had to put their lives on the line that was very clear there were a group of agents who are securing the perimeter to make sure no one else was there and then there were two snipers who were next to me. They would probably three yards away from me with their tripods on the ground and then they were redeploying at times inside the cart to maybe get a better shot trying to figure out where the perpetrator was, the assassin and then there were a group of other agents who are moving forward towards where the assassin was to age with him this snipers, they normally there or was that they came up once there is clearly a threat on the course you know, they are they are, they are normally there with us in the court. Wow. They've got semiautomatic rifles with them or maybe they're on follow at a mattic but they deployed independently of the group of agents who are securing the the precedent. And they were down next to me. They were they were down next to me on the ground. But so they could get they were more balanced than the way that they would shoot it. They at the corner of the fairway with this guy was in the tree line and everybody doing his job and i was mesmerized by the whole thing. Kaitlan, i really was yeah. I mean, i can't even imagine how it felt to be out there and watching all this happened on top of this a real factor that we just saw, an assassination attempt two months ago. And you know, we heard we heard some reporting today that the act i think secret service head told foreign president trump that the more superior security and precautions would have to be taken if he wants to continue playing golf safely, which i think that's an important emphasis on this you just mentioned how it's an opportunity for him to blow off steam, but have you heard from him about whether he wants to be able to keep well i think i think what i would tell him is that he should do what makes him happy. He's really happy out on the golf course. On the other hand, he's my dear friend and i never want to see anything happened to him and what's been happening to him is, i mean i just crazy times. We're living in to me. It reminds me a bit of the 60s and it's not something that ought to be happening in this country our, thanks to, steve witkoff and thank you all so much for joining us. Cnn newsnight with abby phillip starts now the tinderbox election. 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