Months and months of this mobile having an immense fall from grace, he has ten civil suits again, him. Many of which include very disturbing allegations of sexual assault, of drugging. It's important to note that combs has denied most of these allegations, but you'll remember a few months ago when we broke that video of combs violently feeding his exgirlfriend, cassie, in the hallway of a los angeles hotel room, and that came after he had denied many allegations that we're in her lawsuit. I want to remind our viewers that that lawsuit came out in november of 2023. And ever since then, it has been a constant domino effect we heard the time that diddy was the target of an investigation. We learned that investigation was tied to sex trafficking and months later, we exclusively broke at cnn that a grand jury that this was presented to a grand jury and that they were pressing accusers my brand jury. Yeah, and we've seen what that grand jury has decided tonight. Elizabeth wagr, standby. I want to hand over the breaking news to abby phillip answers and questions about whether candidates are safe. Review this as extremely serious after another extraordinary ordinary turned in an unprecedented election plus donald trump's strikes a match by blaming his opponents for another apparent current attempt on his life. As assassinations become politicized, and if i have to create stories more schools and hospitals in springfield are forced to evacuate as j. D. Vance admits to being a teller of tall tales or even lie i've at the table, scott jennings elie moscow lydia moynahan, and hilary rosen welcome to a special edition of newsnight state of the race i'm abby phillip in new york. Let's get right to what america is talking about. An apparent second assassination attempt on donald trump. And this country is incapable of talking about this fivealarm fire. Instead of focusing on the crisis of violence in our politics, or how better to protect these candidates. This is being treated like any other political incident along partisan lines. Trump himself is blaming the rhetoric of president biden and vice president kamala harris. Despite zero evidence to back that up. A lot of rhetoric a lot of people think that the democrats, when they talk about threat to democracy and all of this and it seems that both of these people were radical left and trump's running mate is doing the same you know, the big difference between conservatives and liberals that we no one has tried to kill kamala harris in the last couple of months and two people now have tried to kill donald trump in the last couple of months, i'd say that's pretty strong evidence. Connect the left needs to tone down the rhetoric and needs to cut this crap out. Somebody is going to get hurt by it and it's going to destroy this country cnn presidential historian tim naftali joins us in our fifth seat. Tim, there is quite a lot of historical precedent. Unfortunately, for this kind of thing, including jeremy how ford, who faced two assassination attempts to near death experiences within less than a month of each other. And yet this is different because of the way that right now there's no sort of ability to see beyond the politics of the moment. This has just become another political incident in this country we talk about how there's a parallel to 1968 and there's no parallel to 1968 after dr. Martin luther king junior was assassinated the house passed the fair housing act, one of the three pillars, civil rights act, and that past because of a by partisan majority, the country came together the elites of both parties recognize that we were on a knifeedge and they did the right thing what we're what's unprecedented today is the ability of our elites to come together and realize that there's a red line that we're crossing and that's the difference. And that's what makes this moment, especially dangerous part of the reason for that is that the parties have sorted themselves out and they were philosophically more diverse. They weren't more diverse and other ways, but there were philosophically more diverse at the time so bipartisanship was much easier and much less politically costly. Cost, costly, but there's something else too, which is i think there is a lack of seriousness in our politics today that was not true back then. So many elected members of congress had fought together against fascism or against imperial they'll japan in world war ii. So many of them had, had shared the burden of the great depression. And so they recognize there were issues that this country could only take care of together. I don't think that sense of common purpose exists anymore among our elected officials. And so they use cheap rhetoric when today they should be talking about coming together after a second assault or attempted assault on a former president, you and i, tim were sitting on the set the day that donald trump was attacked that first time it's terrible and we talked about the sickness in this country that assassination attempts represent it's not about the politics of the individual. I mean, look at these people. The thing that they have in common is their complete lack of mental stability. Why is that not the conversation? why are we in this place of who's to blame? is that the democrats or the republicans, the republicans aren't trying to assassinate the democrats and a lot of talk of, they went exactly when it's not, it's just a person it's it's an it's an individual that's what i'm trying to parse through what you said, you know, so much about these issues, which is like this is america. We don't kill people because of their political ideology. It's just not something now at least in modern america, unfortunately, we have not in modern american, let's just say. So when you say people have crossed the red line, are you like agreeing with j. D. Vance? is the red line you're saying are rhetoric line. What's the red line? i'm not agreeing with someone who makes up stories about immigrants and i'm not accusing i don't know what i'm saying that i remember so well july 13 and i remember the conversations in the days that followed. I remember president biden's speech about toning down the rhetoric. And i saw the rhetoric tone down on both sides then 20 minutes into his acceptance speech donald trump turned up the volume i'm not blaming him for what happened. Of course, in our country, you do not decide political disputes through violence but the problem is that we have too much hate speech right now and we are creating and give me an example, what, what do you mean by hate speech? because i want to, because i want to specifically know because i think i know what it is, but i'm interested in what you think about this because i agree with you. I do think we have too much hate speech, but give me an example. I would say, when you use the term from fermin to describe your political opponents. So you think it's trump's fault that he got shot or got shot or what thank you scott i won't i won't step in that trap. That's not what i said there is no place in this country for violence but let's be honest about why we have so much tension in this country when you dehumanize people you are using a rhetoric of the 30s. I'm not using, i'm not going to say which country in the 30s, but when you dehumanize people, you make it easier for disturbed minds to do the right thing. And let me just remind you of something in 2019 donald trump said that the internet is a dangerous avenue. Okay? to radicalize disturbed minds he was right. Yeah. And he said reminder, none of this is new and i do think there is a level of tolerance when it comes to violence speech about trump since 2016, we had kathy griffith showing basically his head several. There were people putting on shakespeare in the park place where they had him his job. She was canceled after that. Wasn't all but i think there's a level of of violence has been normal or directed it in, but that's happened for ten years. It's been normalized but it's, but it's been normalized and adopted as part of one party's platform for president this year the country will cease to exist if donald trump wins, there will be no more democracy. Joe biden is that if the biden campaign listen i know what why don't want to finish everybody? go ahead. I'll let me let scott finish and then i have something to say, you know, the constitution won't exist. There'll be a blood bath he's going to be a dictator when you effectively radicalize millions of people into believing that if an electoral outcome doesn't go our way, they are no longer going to be living in the country. They thought they were. What do you expect to have an i agree with you. There is too much hate speech and total agreement with you. And i hear what you're saying. But i have to say when i see what democratic politicians say about donald trump, when i see what democratic commentator se, about donald trump and their platform is built on a bunch of lies, frankly, that are designed to radicalize a political base. It makes me wonder how much do they really care about the violence that you and i both agree is terrorists grab that same question for trump because you're talking about, okay, this is donald trump on september 10. That's six days ago. If she ever got elected, she'd change it. It will be the end of our country. She's a marxist he shared a social media video of joe biden tied up in the back of a pickup truck he's called his political opponents vermin. He's i mean, trump is not the best messenger for this, but isn't what he's pretty you're a pretty good messenger when you get shot in, nearly get shot again. I think fairly credible for what here's the conversation. I think that tim has tried to have, which is that this has been a political climate in the country, writ large for almost a decade of heightened political animosity. And a lot of people deserve blame for that. But trump is not without trump's hands are not clean in this i'm just asking mean, are you because bullet candidate would be the only one out here. There's not going to blame donald trump for his team nearassassination. I mean, honestly, it's not abused. The one being shot at, he's a target, he's not saying he can't even walk outside of his own helped me started this conversation yeah. His own peril that we started the conversation by saying that this is not about assigning political blame. Trump is the one today, assigning political blame he did hear signing political, i think he do you think he's earned any right to assign or ascribed blame to the two attempts on his life so that you can say that somebody should shoot my opponent's that's what that's that's the rule that just might you'd said you you can be like, oh, somebody to shoot at them because if you look at trump's tweet today, what he said today was that harris was an end and me from within and that she will destroy the country if he gets elected. Now, personally, i do not feel comfortable having yet another conversation about the horrible gun violence in this country without talking about the guns, because i agree with tim, i want this political violence to stop and to me, i would propose a solution to this. I call the protect trump at all costs, assault, weapons ban if we want to protect our political leaders, if we want to protect people who don't have an elite fighting force protecting them 2471 of the best things we can do, not just for trump, but for all potential victims of gun violence is to ban assault weapons, to ban they are 14 and to ban the weapons of terror that these crazy people use to menace not just started leaders, but everybody else in the country gun, guns don't have radical ideology, but human beings do ideologies he asks, and this guy is setting up shop in the bushes outside of a golf course. It wasn't the gun that made him do it yes. Something something got to this guy. He's really at believed to land, but he believed donald prevented them. Believe donald trump needed to be eliminated and he almost did it. Thank god. But the secret service, many more attempts are we going? how many more are we going to have? that's the thing we had guns for a long time. Unfortunately, there's always been a lot of mentally unstable people in the country. Yes. So what is it that's going on right now? a lot more. Now, it is an issue. There aren't that many morgan fencing year ago. When you look at where we are now that this is clearly a secret service issue. This is a failure, i think on their part to not identify and then blame labaree. I think that you're exactly right. Look that's that's such an important part of this conversation. Again there are issues here. There are issues at play, but i am actually genuinely baffled by the choice to within 24 hours of this thing happening, make it about blaming kamala harris and joe biden who immediately condemned it and saying that they put this crazy guy up to this week is a lot to get freaked out. He has thought out so much i'm okay with that. Of course, is allowed to be freaked out, but to blame, but to say without any evidence that this was going to shut up, right because that doesn't help and i think if you're being politically honest, the way i want to be politically honors right now. This has come from both sides of them when we talk about the enemy of the state, this country will never be the same you know, joe biden has done that just as many times as donald trump has done that. And they, and they both have said that the one thing about kamala harris is i would say that she's actually tried to bring a little more levity to country and to these conversations which i think is useful, but there's no question that trump actually should have shut up today. But we also have to give them a little space me because you brought up gerald ford after he was again shot at twice within a few weeks i don't i don't remember the microfiche the general for it start fundraising off of the assassination attempts within the hour of after he was afterwards, he didn't and to your point after george wallace was crippled, i mean, it wasn't killed, but he was, he was gunned down the congress of the united states past additional gun control legislation and an outlaw, the domestic production of saturday night specials after after rfk was killed in 68 they prevented the importation of saturday night specials. And then when yet another presidential candidate was attacked, they went a little further so congress, which included republicans thought we got, we have to do something this is dangerous. And so they said, let's do something rather than pointing fingers at each other and saying, well, clearly, he was shot by a vast or that, or what is it that back though when it comes to rhetoric obviously, violent rhetoric is something to be afraid of. We didn't want to encourage that. I'm society and yet still is rhetoric. There's something that happens between somebody encouraging it and fanning the flames and actually taking a gun out and started mental health. And look just to address your point about harris, i just don't agree. I mean, the underpinning of her campaign. I mean, she repeats it herself. Trump will be a dictator on day one. I mean, this it's not really fights dictators. That's what our history and we didn't he say if he'll be a dictator there'll be a blood bath. There'll be a blood bath that there would be a hell he wants to terminate the constitution. Say that there would be first thing she said which was true in second thing. Is the incident is said by every democrat working for or around her campaign every day on this this network and every other one, the bloodbath thing is stated every single day. Okay. Let me but my point there that eliminate constitutional on what fair this up. You're referring to trump's use of the word bloodbath when he was told was he talking about i'm going to explain it to people because i think there's confusion about this use of the word bloodbath when he was it's talking about vehicle manufacturing jobs in the united states. Vice president harris improperly an unfairly mischaracterized that, as i'm saying, there would be a blood bath if he were elected, however, she did not say that if trump were elected, there would be a bloodbath. She did not i know you have interviewed and had people out here and have watched the same coverage. I have the bloodbath, garbage isn't it is a pillar of the democratic campaign against trump, as a dictator, as is eliminate the u. S. Constitution does matter of stuff i told you need to. But if i told you all that about somebody doing which is disorder blamed democrats instead of saying, oh yeah, maybe i currently both of these guys are screwing. I feel sort of what i think the rest of us personally, i feel need to tell you all tonight that we can't even talk about the rhetoric moving forward because it's too late. Now, so many people, so many people tray for trump. It's too late. He can't even go outside so many people who have already been radicalized by this better bet for haley feels like it will never want clearly feels like he has an advantage from what happened by by virtue of what he's doing with anybody who twice thinks their advantage it's very scary. Now, believe me, he should defending him the coordinate should be tightening around him and he should be in as much of a bubble as he's willing to have and certainly should be protected. But scott on say it's too late to deradicalized the rhetoric. It's too late. You know why we think it's too late scott, maybe not saying sorry to interrupt. But this election appears to the close. Yeah mean someone's going to win and someone's going to lose. If we don't work hard to deradicalize the language god knows what kind of violence after a we can't give up or the first assassination attempt trump and his advisers said that he was a changed man. He was going to bring the country together. He he didn't try to tear the country apart for about four days. But there's clear it's clear he abandoned that mission i mean, wouldn't it be the thing to do right now to take that back up and say starting with me yeah, i think any i think any politician could go on tv tonight and say, i am going to take personal responsibility for my own language and my own actions. But this point about deradicalization, what i mean is look when you've had this kind of language about somebody be the underpinning of a campaign for years and intensely for the last several months. The only way to unwind it is for the people who've been saying it, chiefly the president and vice president to go on tv and say, you know what we went too far and what we said honestly is not true. The country will i democrats will tamp down their language about the moment. Trump tamps down on his language about the democrats, about immigrants, about people of color, about women and not a moment before, what about how many, how many times you're going to shoot at him which is your argument literally in a minute, but that you are not under threatened, less somebody directly takes that she was actually think what you're what you're saying. He praised, you have access to secret service files about how many threats harris and biden have received over the past year, how many threats barack obama, the first black president, received for eight years while he was in the white house. Do you have those secret service files or are you just out here talking because somebody was taught in the bushes on saturday. So you want if you want something done, if you want to get away from this violence and hatred, the clearest thing to do is to take away the weapons that these people are using to cause the violence and hatred rhetoric does not kill your guns, do. So you're ok with people being radicalized. You just want to arm them, but it's okay to continue to lie to them about what will happen to the country if your political opponents tim, last word and then we got to go when we, we've got to make steps towards each other donald trump doesn't have to do this busy as he was shot. It's a terrible thing that he was shot but deradicalizing our country will take efforts on both sides. And one of the things he ought to do is to talk about what he means when he says he's going to be a dictator on day one, tell people that's not really what i mean. What i mean is i'm going to do the following, but he never wants to answer questions about what he means he's sometimes as i was just joking, he often uses very divisive language in his rallies maybe he's misunderstood. I don't know, but he should as part of this deradicalization process explained, i believe in the constitution, you should say that i loved this constitution. I believe in all of your rights don't worry. Sometimes i say things just for effect i think kamala harris the same and i think that that's that's exactly the point tim is making actions on both sides of this at tim. Thank you very much for joining us and for bringing a little bit of history to the conversation here, everyone else stick around coming up next another special guests will join us in our fifth seed is j. D. Vance says that he doesn't regret, quote creating conspiracies that are sending schools and hospitals going into lockdown in springfield, ohio. Plus, we've got more on our breaking news this tonight, the rapper and hiphop mogul, sean diddy combs has been arrested in new york after a grand jury indictment will be right back quayle has cow reaction to the birth oneonone episode was overwhelming. The most emotional scene was so decision murphy may to not get an abortion. The vice president reacted as if it was a threat. The existence of america. He id yeah, this fictional character played any role in politics is bananas tv on the edge moments that shaped our culture premieres sunday at nine on cnn cnn one. 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What do we know at this point about what this case might ultimately be about be at the moment, we don't know what the charges are. I have information that he was arrested tonight at a manhattan hotel. He is currently being prepped process. I heard from his attorney, they are still maintaining his innocence. They said that in anticipation of these charges, that diddy relocated to new york last week. And here's a statement that i have from his attorney. He says we are disappointed with the decision to pursue what we believe is an unjust prosecution of mr. Combs by the us attorney's office. He goes on to say that he is an imperfect person, but is not criminal. Now, abby, that video that you just spoke about was a few months ago. When our team broke this disturbing video of diddy violently assaulting his exgirlfriend to standard for ventura, better known as the singer, her stage name cassie. Now, up until this point when we broke this video, diddy had denied the allegations against him. Cassie is one of ten civil suits against diddy, nine of which he is accused directly of sexually assault up until that video, he denied everything after that video came out. He changed his tone. He apologized for his conduct in that video, but i have to tell you, abby, just as of last week, a former member of danity kane, which was one of the bands from making the ban, diddy's show that was on mtv she sued him for sexual assault and other disturbing allegations and he denied that. He continues the denials and he still maintains his innocence, even though he has been arrested tonight elie not a huge amount of information available tonight, but elizabeth brought up something that i want you to give us a little bit of insight into diddy is here in new york and manhattan. He apparently came here in anticipation that something like this might happen what should we understand about what that might mean it could very well be that this is a federal arrest being processed here in new york so abby, there are some important things we do not know, including the specific charges that were lodged against sean combs, but there are some really important things we do know. First of all, based on the attorney's statement, based on our reporting, this is a federal prosecution. It's not a state prosecution. The fact that he's being processed in manhattan tells me that's the southern district parts of new york. That's consistent with the reporting that the southern district of new york had been handling this case. That's the office i used to work at. That's an office that specializes in high stakes cases just in the last year or so southern district of new york, just as an example, has successfully prosecuted sam bankmanfried, senator robert menendez. The other thing that we do know is a grand jury he has indicted sean combs, meaning they found probable cause that he committed at least one federal crime. Now, as to what happens next, there will be likely tomorrow or within the next couple of days, but usually in the sdny, he tried to do it the next there will be an arraignment, meaning sean combs will appear in court with his lawyers. There are no cameras in federal court. He will be advised of the charges against him and he will almost certainly enter a not guilty plea. But the key thing to watch for is then we'll have the question of bail will prosecutors agreed to let him out on bail? will prosecutors asked the judge to lock him up pending trial that could end up in a contentious argument. So these are things that are going to play out over the next 24 or 48 it hours. And finally, abbey, with respect to the charges themselves, it's important to know we've all seen that video, but assault and sexual assault or not federal crimes, those are prosecuted in state court. So what i expect to see when we see this indictment is some sort of crime with some element of organization to its sex trafficking, something along those lines? if it's based on some of the allegations we've heard of course, back in march, his homes in l. A. And in miami were raided all of this leading up to this moment, elizabeth and ally, a lot more to the story will be coming up in the coming days and weeks. Laura coates live. Also. We'll have much more on this breaking news at the top of the hour but coming up next for us, a town is now on edge from schools to hospitals, thanks to a baseless conspiracy and senator j. D. Vance now insists that it doesn't matter if those conspiracies aren't true. 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Vance say that everyone needs to tone down the rhetoric, but his rhetoric is unwittingly putting a small ohio town in the spotlight. It's impacting hospitals both schools, festivals, all in springfield, ohio evacuated over these baseless claims that migrants are eating pets and yet fans is apparently fine with all of that. The american media totally ignored this stuff until donald trump and i start talking about cat memes if i have to just do the create stories so that the american media actually pays attention to the suffering of the american people. Then that's what i'm going to do, dana, because you guys are coming lately letting kamala harris coast, you just said that this is a story that you've created. So eating dog, we're not, we are creating, we are dana. It comes from firsthand accounts from my constituents joining us and i fifth seed cnn political commentator and republican pollster kristen soltis anderson. Kristen, welcome. This is god. How many days now of the story? and there's still no evidence of this happening. But i mean, it seems that j. D. Vance thinks that it's working for him donald trump has always believed that there is no such thing as bad press, that any attention is good attention. And this is really of a piece with that consistent strategy, the notion that saying something that's outlandish, even if it's something that's only semi rooted in truth they're not rooted in truth at all as long as it gets attention, it will get attention on the issue that he cares about. And frankly, donald trump has a long track record of that working out for him. There have been lots of times where he has said and done things that have been considered beyond the pale and yet the more attention that gets put on it, the more he seems to benefit. So this just seems to be consistent with that strategy the mayor of springfield of saying don't come here. Donald trump has said he wants to campaign in springfield. The mayor does not want him there because the town now has been turned upside down by all of this really listen should he listen? i don't know. I wouldn't campaign in ohio either because i think donald trump's going to win by double digits there. But i do think it's important when we think about this story all weekend long, we were told that what trump and vance were doing, they were directly responsible for these bomb threats and whatever today in case you missed it, the governor of ohio said the bomb threats were hoax, isn't they were coming in from overseas he said, quote, many of these threats were coming in from overseas made by those who want to fuel the current discord surrounding springfield. So all weekend long j. D. Vance and trump, but specifically vance were directly blamed for putting people in harm's way today, the governor says are coming from overseas and i just we can start the apology on the show. The governor, but the governor says its overseas and it's not this. Suppose a maga radicals instead of talking to the governor, you should talk about the haitian immigrant community in springfield that is being menaced by these people. There have been reports that these people cannot send there children to school. There been reports of property damage that one of the haitian newspaper has shot down as they have been under threat. Maybe you should talk to haitians instead of governor mike to wit, who has been part and parcel of some of the lies and attacks against the haitian community. We just had a whole segment, scott, were you've said that people should tone down the rhetoric given that we need to take personal responsibility for the things we say. Well, here, we have an example of stochastic terrorism against a vulnerable immigrant community, which does not have secret service protection. Scott, which does not have military force watching their back. These are vulnerable people out there and they are being menaced because i just want to say thank governor, because i heard what you said about him, but he's also been out on television saying they're good workers. They are not doing these things that they have been accused of. They are here to actually revise our allies, this community. The reason that haitian migrants are coming to springfield is because there are jobs that they could not fill until the migrants got to that town i do have to say, when you speak with people close to bands, when you speak with him, he is very clear that he does have these firsthand accounts of people he doesn't because it he did he wouldn't well, this is what he's hearing from constituents obligated he defendant he's gotten calls. He's no one has come forward. There had been no pictures, no videos, your constituents he feels obligated to represent them, and so he's trying to raise these concerns that he didn't even note to fed chair jerome powell earlier this year that housing inflation has impacted these people. Anything? there's a big question about how we absorb immigrants into society and new york has not done a great job of it, even though we have eight plus million people telling resources it is difficult for this community. Let me, let me just a lot of let me just make a integrations distinction here. And this conversation because i think facts matter the haitians who are in springfield, many of them may be most of them are here legally. They are able to work. They are working and there are issues that come with that, meaning that there are more people there. So there are more people who are using housing, more people who are using public services but that's different from what's happening in new york where there are people in new york who actually cannot work. That's a different strain on resources that the problem here is this town was dwindling for many years until this moment. Now there are people who looked completely different from the population that was in springfield for that is also causing issues and we have to be real about that element of it. And this was started as an attack on immigrants, as an attack on race and this is you know, live overseas as you guys know, this is not unique to america. We've saying this and germany with the adf and we've seen it in the netherlands. I mean using black immigrants or people of color to demonize political position and accelerate division is actually a strategy and it's worked and many other countries and j. D vance and donald trump used it deliberately in the debate. It was a planned attack of donald trump's in the debate. He started this and now his own gut, the own governor of ohio said, actually none of that is really true. And yet he hasn't come back on actually, maybe facts do matter and maybe this isn't true so that's really the problem. And honestly it's got no matter what you say, changes those facts. But i do think it's an important conversation. How are they here legally? because of executive action on immigration. I don't believe it is an attack on immigration saying they don't have the right to be here when there do you know what protect temporary protected status is and do not agree with it? no. I think most republicans do not believe that the executive branch or the officers of it should be able to waive what j. D. Vance correctly calls magic won, so people can circumvent the normal immigration processing governor saying that these businesses needed workers. For a long and businesses needed most americans think we need less immigration, not more most americans think we need a process and there is good amid those two things are there is a legitimate conversation to be had about how cities on the border in ohio, in new york, and everywhere else are being expected to absorb large populations. That doesn't mean the populations are inherently bad, or the people are inherently bad, or that they don't provide value what but when you put huge numbers of people in communities and they begin to have impacts on the policing system, the health care system, the roads, whatever the school whatever it is, and then you just say to the communities good luck. I think americans have a right to a debate about this. And this is what the democrats don't want to have. No, i think it's fine. And republicans want to talk about why we have an insane immigration system that cannot be controlled and reformed in a way that would make people think okay, we actually have processed and it's under control instead of being out of, but that's where you're exactly wrong. Kamala harris this has a wonderful, affordable housing policy. And if you guys are really worried about housing for these new americans, that we should probably support her plan. Have you read it? it's actually pretty good. You're saying that you want to process temporary protected status is a process, but you might not like the process is a process that has been used by democratic presidents and republican presidents. If there is a problem that make it right on, if there is a, i think temporary protective status which is something that we give to people when their countries are in crisis is not just write it as moral. So if you really think that there is a problem onboarding these new americans into our communities, then i think we should all support more affordable housing being built all across this nation because we certainly have the second, i mean, let me ask her this month the electoral play here in doubling down on this bizarre falsehood. I mean, the recent abc news ipsos poll basically showed independents aren't buying it the only people buying it perhaps or republicans, but independents are overwhelmingly, they believed that this story is completely false. The data that i've seen so far suggests guess that for independent voters they tend to believe that the store is more likely to be false than it is to be true at the same time, we do still consistently see donald trump ahead of kamala harris on the question of who do you trust more to handle the issue? but immigration. And so i think the question is, when the topic is around illegal immigration, that is one where we have seen the american public actually moved pretty far to the right in the last 45 years it's an issue that tends to favor donald trump at the same time, legal immigration in the polling is a little bit more mixed i find it in some ways electorally baffling to focus on this story which has been so outrageous in its presentation and description when there are a lot of really valid proof points that are very factual, that make the case that illegal immigration had gone up under the bidenharris administration, that there are real problems with it? there's that whole argument available to them and that's not the same as going after the capstone smart and you can have a thoughtful debate about it at but this story was deliberately done to merge people's favorite conversation, which is there are paths know very favorite conversation. And the internet which has tolerated people's very about pets to misrep the status of these immigrants to demonize yes, sect of people to divide the community that the governor says that they need. Yeah. Alright, everyone hold on for a second because coming up next the panel is going to give us their night caps, including too surprising predictions about cars kamala harris, and the upcoming election election season cnn has you covered no matter the question from more about the candidates to rules in your state, to casting your ballot. The cnn voter handbook has your answers. Visit cnn. Com slash vote for your covid19. I'm not waiting. If it's covid paxlovid. Paxlovid as an oral treatment for adults with mildtomoderat e covid 19 at a high risk factor for it becoming severe. It does not prevent covid19. My symptoms are mild now but i'm not risking it if it's covid paxlovid. 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People in harris camp needs to understand, they need to win by more than once they if they need to win by 23 he four states to make their margin of victory is so large that the supreme court can't take it away from them there's a lot going on and they know they need to win by more than one yeah, i think because the supreme court only way to do this thing this time around, scott, i mean, for the record, bush won florida so yeah. I got you very night here. Show. Okay. All right. Here's my i was reading in the hill today and had an interesting headline about democratic lawmakers saying that they fully expected kamala harris is pivot to the center to be nothing but political rhetoric they should govern like a liberal when she actually becomes president. Here's the quote, i'm from massachusetts. She's from california on climate abortion lgbtq issues were absolutely an agreement. That's why elizabeth warren and i are so passionately campaigning for ed markey. So the next time a republican tells you you got to vote for harris to save the conservative movement. Showing this article and say, i don't think so. All right, lydia justin timberlake on friday, got a plea deal after he was arrested in sag harbor after drinking a martini allegedly for drunk driving. Really interesting plea deal that he guy is a very good attorney, eddie bergen, the hamptons and is part of that he paid a small fine community service and he offered a public apology. What's interesting is on the one hand, it seems like a great opportunity to say that you're opposed to drunk driving on the other hand, is it basically giving somebody preferential treatment because they're a celebrity and they can use their platform essentially to reach people with their message would not be the first time nor will it be the last that a celebrity has gotten an interesting deal. Hillary? well speaking of celebrities my view is this race is going to end the up having a very technical result. 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