Is an idea we can make it whatever we want. And that is not demonizing people. It's a dog whistle and it needs to stop all right. Well, on that note of hope, john hope bryant. Thank you very much for being with me tonight have a great weekend, john. And to all of you as well thanks for joining us. Ac360 starts now press conference filled with falsehoods, the former president defends his ties to a true racist conspiracy peddler as the ohio city, they're both pushing antiimmigrant conspiracies about his hit with bomb threats and local schools also tonight, vice president harris campaigning and parts of battleground, pennsylvania, the wind deep red last time, and the reception that she got there today, senator john fetterman joins us live and later dr. Sanjay gupta and what a star nfl quarterback, just 26yearsold, is now facing after his third diagnose concussion of his career good evening. Thanks for joining us for a second straight day elementary school students in springfield, ohio were forced to evacuate their classrooms after another day of threats made against schools. And yesterday, city buildings. After a week of falsehoods, some of them inflammatory about, some of them are just flat out racist about the city made by donald trump is running mate and there are supporters, including by the former president today, who was offered multiple opportunities to try to tap, tamp down the tension, correct. The falsehoods, and disavow a particularly toxic follower and traveling companion of his. It can came amid a press conference. He gave this afternoon at his golf course near los angeles in it, he claimed he won the debate. Our polling and some of his fellow republicans certainly disagree. So does his support robert f. Kennedy, who said he lost on national tv. He also made fun of moderator david muir, again, is that he would win and solidly blue california if votes there would be counted. Honestly, they have been counted. Honestly, we should point out he repeated a false claim. The california was diverting water into the ocean he accused kamala harris of lying about having worked in mcdonald's in 1983 repeatedly mispronounced her name. In other words, he said things which while they'd be outlandish, i've spoken by virtually any other candidate for any office ever were no pun intended par for the course and what sometimes obscure his other words that inflame and incite and can lead to dark places such as his turning a legitimate line of criticism over the pullout from afghanistan and the bombing that killed 13 american service members into this they're sons and daughter, just as though kamala shot them with a pistol in our hand or his hand they were killed by biden and kamala and if that weren't explicit enough, he's also implicating the president and vice president in the attempt on his life. Saying in tuesday's debate, i probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me which at least suggests he understands the impact that words can have. Yet, even after springfield schools were evacuated for a second time today, he said this bring field ohio 20,000 illegal haitian migrants have descended upon a town of 58,000 people destroying their way of life. They've destroyed it players, some people don't like to talk about it because eva, the town doesn't like to talk about it because it sounds so bad for the town they live there there proud. They loved the town for years. It was a great place, safe nice now they have 20,000 and actually heard today is 32,000. The new number keeping them honest in springfield, the haitians in springfield or not, as he says, illegal by enlarge, they live their lawfully complete with social security numbers and work permits under a federal program now, instead of admitting the ad, the foreign president and his running mate have latched onto a rightwing internet meme about the haitian community. There in springfield. They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats. You'll see people until it let me just say this is the people on television cleared my dog was taken used for food, i don't know which or the full spate of animals that are being consumed there in springfield, we've heard reports from a number of constituents on the ground that they have had pets abducted by some of the immigrants. They're springfield, ohio that you've been reading about 20,000 illegal haitian immigrants have descended upon the town of 58,000 people destroying their entire way of life. This was a beautiful community and now it's horrible and illegal. Haitians and he came in illegal haitian migrants taking over a beautiful place. Can you imagine you have this small little community all of a sudden you have 20,000 illegals in your community. Nobody knows where they come from. But as you heard a moment ago today, without any evidence, he jack that number up to 32,000. So he heard he said and also today he vowed to deport them all. But he got the country wrong we will do large deportations from springfield, ohio large deportations. We're going to get these people out what bringing it back to venezuela? so it's easy to let the comic opera aspect of him confusing the country's he scorns it again, obscures the central fact that what he's saying is inflammatory and false with regard to haitians legal status in springfield and the racist slur on their dietary habits springfield area law enforcement this week went through 11 months of calls, received, a non non according to them concern pets being in that's the real news along with school evacuations today and yesterday, not the rumors and the fall says that he and his supporters are spreading. Here's what conspiracy peddled. Laura loomer post on x today, quoting now, elon musk's post video you have haitian woman confirming haitians do in fact eid cats and do animal sacrifice and voodoo. This comes as the media is lying and saying donald trump lied about kamala harris's haitian invaders eating people's pets in ohio. It's real and it's happening now, loomer, you'll recall recently posted a racist tweet about vice president. The vice president's indian heritage she's been traveling with the former president recently on his plane to the dismay of other republicans accompanying him to 9/11 ceremonies, despite having posted a video claiming the attacks were an inside job in her words, he was asked about her today say to your republican colleagues? are your allies who are concerned about your close relationship with laura loomer well, i don't know what they would say. Laura has been a supporter of mine just like a lot of people are supporters and she's been a supporter of mine she speaks very positively of the campaign. I'm not sure why you asked that question, but laura is a supporter i don't control laura. Laura has to say what you want. Your allies are concern. Well, i don't know. I may look i can't tell you, laura what to do. Laura is a supporter. I have a lot of supporters but i'm so i don't know what exactly you're referring to. Loomer was traveling with you on your plate? a lot of people due to very big plane. She made racist remarks about your opponent. She also espoused conspiracy theories about 9:11 do you disavow those remarks? we'll have to see what the remarks are. You telling me for the first time what her remarks are as you saw from that tweet of hers today, her remarks on that subject or his remarks and despite being a big plane, as he said, space on it, is at a premium. Even more so after his security detail was beefed up, she's on the plane and by his side because he wants her there. But in a social media post late today, he signaled a possible change and you can make of it what you will quoting now, laura loomer doesn't work for the campaign. She's a private citizen, longtime supporter, or disagree with the statements she made. But like the the many millions of people who support me, she's tired of watching the radical left marxists and fascists violently attack and smear me even to the point of doing anything to stop their political opponent, me so a lot to get to joining us, cnn political commentator scott jennings and ashley allison politicos, meridith mcgraw and michael eric dyson, distinguished professor at vanderbilt university and coauthor of the new book represent the unfinished fight for the vote. Michael, why do you think this conspiracy theory about haitian migrant population in springfield continues to be so pushed by rightwing media circles and by the president, and former president well, in a word, it's part of the big attack resy, the rule rain in tyranny of collection of bigoted figures. And by big, i mean as howard thurman said, a big it as a person who makes an idol of his or her commitments of fetish of their own particular beliefs. And this man has come consistently denounced others. If you remember he called hadiya a shithole country. This is an extension of the same attempt to both smear vice president kamala harris by refusing to call her by her rightful name. That is a racist trope that has been deployed by many on the right is not a i innocent mistake because if you mispronounce your name and your corrected and you continue to mispronounce her name. It's the extension of calling black people. What you will call them regardless of what their names are. But when you look even beyond that, this notion that black people are consuming dogs and cats there because they are haitian and then miss miss naming the country that he will deport them to this is all a discombobulated bubble of bigotry that continues to operate within donald trump's imagination. And unfortunately, many on the right wing, other conservatives have not called them on it, which means therefore it's, they're complicit as in his bigotry and an extension of his poison, his worldview. Scott, i mean, the former president did had the opportunity to walk back his comments about this, this what he's saying about haitians and springfield, it was asked about the bomb threats that have closed schools in the area. It chose not to address something that is actually happening there and affecting the lives of school kids. There do you wish he would walk this back i wish he would stick to the facts of what's happening about immigration in this country. It is a legitimate debate to have about what's happening in communities where you have influx of immigration, whether it's legal or illegal, and whether that's the kind of immigration system that we need. I think that's a conversation that country is interested in having. And i think it gets diluted. And frankly lost the macro issues get lost when we get wrapped up in these when these other sidebar issues or these other issues that maybe aren't aren't grounded in reality. So yeah, i look, i i think immigration and the economy are the two issues on which he can and might win the election. And the immigration issues we have in places all over the country, whether it's ohio or new york city or anywhere else? are bad enough that you don't have to, you don't have to dabble and things that are not true. Actually, i mean, it's clear he believes there's a benefit in as scott says, dabbling in these things which are not true. I mean, these are i mean, racist tropes that he's dabbling with. Yeah and they're quite dangerous. I was speaking to a reporter today that was just back from springfield, ohio and it was an african american reporter and she said she'd been called the n word while they're his words have power and we have seen before when he inflames his base to either attack black people in buffalo or at a grocery store, or whether it is a walmart in el paso he is a leader, whether you like it or not, he is the leader of the republican party and we can have a conversation about immigration. We can talk about it is the issue it's an issue that's been plaguing our country for 30 years because leaders have not on both sides of the party. Quite honestly, have yet to find a common ground and when there was a chance for once after decades of not doing anything, this leader, donald trump, instead of letting the party solve the problem or take a step forward, he stopped it. And then months later, he was that's two inflame his base say that black immigrants, not just any black immigrants, are eating their pets, which is akin to how people have looked at black people as less than human haitian people. Laura loomer is tweet about lukoo. These are tropes that he is doing to get people excited to come out and vote for him but i make a call to all of us. We can be better than this. We can have policy conversations and we can do them on debate stages. But i don't think we can do them in the right way when donald trump is there because he had an opportunity to do it. And instead of sticking to the facts and talking about what he would do for america, he took that opportunity to push more lies and disinformation, a about black people and black immigrants in this dangerous. And it's reckless and he needs to be stopped by all people, republicans and democrats well, meredith, how are elected republicans reacting to the foreign president continuing to push this? attack for the trump campaign, they see immigration as a winning issue for republicans across the board. They see that trump is up in the polls with immigration. And this falsehood came about because it was pushed initially by senator j. D. Vance of ohio and then was repeated again on the debate stage. Republicans are going to keep talking about immigration up until november, but what we're seeing in this is that there are realworld consequences for the false heads that are being spread about the city in ohio. We heard the mayor of springfield say that they need help there they don't need hate. And when you see elementary schools get evacuated, the city hall, get evacuated for bomb threats and citizens have concerns about their safety, safety because of their threats, it goes beyond the debate about immigration as everybody else in this panel said, and goes to being realworld consequences for the people that are living in this town. Michael, it's because the harris campaign has kind of brushed off most of the foreign president's attacks as part of his normal playbook i'm wondering how you see that. I mean, is there anything in today's statement that they would want to respond to or for them is it better to not get involved in i mean, is that what they want? is that what the trump campaign wants yeah, exactly. They're trying to bait the harris campaign in besides other nefarious intentions. And i think she's absolutely right. Do not step down to the level of your opponent at this point. And i think that she is wise to do so. The campaign will not allow donald trump to set the terms of it. But i wish one other republicans are describing what is going on as brother scott just so eloquently that is untrue, but it's also racist and it's important to say it's racist, not just untrue, because untrue as a kind of neutral description of an objective calculation about what's right and what's wrong. It's also morally heinous that a president, a former president of the united states of america, would continue you too race beit his opponent because she bested him in a debate, the black girl beat the white boy, and now he is upset beyond the telling, and he's incapable of controlling himself. And as a result of that, he's trying to make the nation pay, but kamala harris is absolutely right to continue to focus on her project and her agenda let others fight those battles in the trenches everybody stick around meridith mcgraw, thank you for being with us. Coming up next. We're gonna have more the former president reopens the door to another debate with vice president. Well, claiming victory again, without any evidence for the first one. Later, the harris campaign looking to narrow his margins in reliably red part parts of pennsylvania will talk to senator fetterman from pennsylvania of drug that i got news for you is coming to cnn this fall pros and cons less pro hosted by roy wood junior, grow with amber ruffin. Would likely in black hole, right. So what are the cons we could run out a new spider but in all seriousness, i i desperately need this to work out i'm in the middle of a divorce, so i'll leave that to the river. I got news for you from years tomorrow with nine on cnn or stream next day on max, it's michael's lowest prices at the season they got to 70% of thousands of items like fall boiled the court and more for huge savings on these and great deals on frames. And you'll love this. All yarn is on sale. 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But maybe if i got in the right mood, i don't know right now. I'm leaving and i'm leading in every single poll on thank you back now with the panel, actually, obviously he's not leading in any poll about the debate's, i don't know of anyone who really thought he won that debate. Anthony scaramucci was on the program last night saying 100%, he's going to want to debate again, he's going to change his mind. This is all just talking and negotiating tactic. Are you surprised at all that? now it's suggesting perhaps are dangling this if he's in the right mood know, i mean, it's donald trump at this point and i'm not surprised by anything he does the thing that i think is interesting about his response. He's like i could do another debate. Yeah, it doesn't mean you'll do it well, just like the last debate and so he shows up. He prepares with people like tulsi gabbard i've heard it the last person in his ear as laura loomer. And when that happens and you still don't say that you don't want those type of people around you, you will probably have a similar debate performance. Look i saw the debate just like everybody else saw the debate. Donald trump lost that debate. Now, does that mean that if the election were today, kamala harris would win the election? i can't say that but anyone who was paying half a bit of attention on tuesday night knows that donald trump spiral after being thrown off his game, talking about crowd size, not talking about the economy, not talking about immigration, talking about crowd size, nothing that actually improves the quality of americans lives. It was more about crowd departure. I believe thank you. Thank you for factchecking me on that anderson, kenan, me on it location that people got bored and they yet what yes that people would did not were not entertained by him. That's what concerns have not what the quality of american life is. I'm not surprised he's doing it. Well, we see another debate. I'm not sure but just because he shows up, doesn't mean he'll do a good job. Just got it me as somebody who wants to see him win the white house. Do you think he should do another debate? absolutely not. I don't think there's anything to be gained look, he's done seven debates since 2016 in the general election he lost three according to the snap polls. This is all the polling to hillary clinton. He did win the electoral college. He lost to in 2020, he did not win the election. This one our poll had him losing 63 to 37, even though he did pick up a couple hello points on the economic questions. So what are the odds that the next one is going to go better? and also, what are the odds that kamala harris, i mean, what you're depending on is that she fails she didn't fail it. This one. And so even if you just sort of fought to a draw, does that actually get you anything when you're managing a campaign, you're like, well i got to get something out of this time expenditure and so my advice leave it be grind it out, fight or to a national draw in the national polls. And if you do, you're almost 100% sure to when the electoral college, you don't need another debate to do it my god, i mean, the harris campaign obviously immediately said that they wanted another debate. Do you do you think it's good for harris to do another? bait? and what do you what do you hoping you see from her campaign that you haven't seen so far, if there is something yeah. No, i think obviously it would be great because she would best him again, her rhetorical mastery was on display there. Her ability to gold him, to pride him, to bait him and for him to effortlessly step into her trap. It was a master class in that regard, but also in a second debate, she might be able to kind of expand upon her own vision about what america is to reinforce it to the public. Because what's interesting here by every metric she's be dimon debate she's clearly more articulate she's more highly intelligent, her capacity to express herself shows a selfpossession and a moral disposition that are superior she's better at business that seems than he is he just sucks it everything. And yet he is in competition must be great to be mediocre white guy who blew a lot of money, who people believe is the choice, the leader of choice for this nation. So she can continue to puncture holes into that fantasy that has been blown up on the helium of exaggerated belief and what he represents. And i think she can remind america that our true desk it's the one as americans, white, black, or whatever color we are, is to come together and to love each other with that model. We have e pluribus unum out of many one. So it's certainly to her advantage to do so, but i doubt if donald trump wants to step back into that ring and get pummeled the way he was ashley michael spoke to this before the break during his presser today, trump mispronounce kamala harris's name, at least 27 times, something. He and a lot of his allies have been repeatedly doing before. She even began the campaign. He obviously knows how to pronounce the vice president's name is this all just part of a piece of trying to make her into an other absolutely. And you know, maybe everybody didn't wants the dnc, but there were two little girls who were able to explain the simple phonics of their ons name, kamala harris, one word commonly like that's in the sentence la, la, la, la explained it to us enough to learn someone's name is responsible enough to be the president united states, probably not. But what he is doing is trying, like you said, to otherwise her say something like, oh her name is so foreign that she can't be one of us. She couldn't lead. She's not a part of us, but we have a yet again, an opportunity to say that is not who we are. We are going to judge people on their merits, on their qualifications, on their ability to improve the quality of my life. And i'm going to ask them questions by their proper name and get get it right. But this is just donald donald trump. Same like the vice premier says, same old tired playbook michael, i want to ask you about your new book. It's called represent the unfinished fight for the vote. You take the reader through the history of the struggle for voting rights in this country by telling the stories of politicians and activists who, who made it possible advance that cause. I'm wondering what the parallels you draw between those efforts and the political situation today. Well, when you think about an indigenous woman like zika lassa, when you think about a mabel ping wildly, a woman who went on to get a phd from columbia. When you think about frederick douglass, a rhetorical master, most eloquent man of the 19th century three, or elizabeth cady stanton, there as a feminist arguing america has always been at his best when we have come together to leverage the authority and the validity of our citizenship in the name of true democracy. But look at the election of 18, 76, when you got the birth of the red shirts and they were out there writing in rough shot against african people who were simply trying to vote. And then congressmen and senators were going on the floor bragging about how they had undercut and suppress the black vote. And to the extent of killing black people to preserve white supremacy. And on january 6, we saw that three issue itself. Again from postreconstruction to what's going on in this third reconstruction as dr. Peniel joseph causes this is a ready example for us to look at what we point out in this book is our opportunity to make america truly what it is meant to be, not make america great again, make america better and better than it's ever been, because we're committed to the fundamental principles that have defined this as a nation from the very beginning michael eric dyson, scott jennings, ashley allison. Thank you. Of next vice president harris in pennsylvania today, a state she likely must win. Pennsylvania senator john fetterman was with her onestop, which is going to join us to talk about what is shaping up up to be a very close race. There by any change change and wife, i'm not changed sexual orientation of not changing political party. We don't go to the house, would what we got here. Okay? carver, saturday, october 5th on cnn restaurant bread still policies know cheddar. Cheddar bay 2024 is here to clean up the crump's. 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Those were her words and said this a short time ago we are witnessing a fullon assault on other hard fought, hard won fundamental freedoms and ryan like the freedom to vote the freedom to be safe from gun violence the freedom to join a union what a moment, democratic senator john fetterman joins me. He was at today's first stop with vice president harris, but first our senior data reporter, harry enten on the state of the race. So how are the candidates doing pennsylvania, you know, if you had asked me a month ago, anderson, i would have thought and said that kamala harris was a slight favorite to win in the commonwealth of pennsylvania. She lead in the majority of the polls, there was a small lead but it was pretty clear and consistent across the polling data. You now look at the polling that's come out over the last 15 days. And we've seen movement in donald trump's direction. Obviously these polls were conducted before the debate, but the bottom line is a tie in the cbs news yougov poll, a tie in the cnn, paul so a month ago, it looked like keras was favored. Now in all honesty, i have no idea who's going to win how does electric breakdown in doors? republicans and democrats? and over the years, how is it change? yeah, republicans have done an extremely good job of registering voters. You know, if you go back four years ago and you look at the party registration in the state. Democrats had about a 600,000 voter advantage. Look at where we are now in september 2024, republicans have closed that gap significantly that lead that democrats have. It's still an advantage, but it's down by, down to only 200,000 voters, 3. 5 million to 3. 3 million republicans have closed that gap by four 400,000 voters. So the bottom line is the electorate that joe biden won with for years ago is not the same electorate kamala harris is going to have to win with the november if she wants to win in pennsylvania, it's a significantly more republican electorate. Anderson and what about the electoral map let's take a look at in terms of the importance of pennsylvania. It's pennsylvania pennsylvania. Pennsylvania. I feel like tim russert, but in 2024, talking about the commonwealth of pennsylvania because the bottom line is this if you take the betting favorites in all the states and you give kamala harris, pennsylvania, she gets to exactly 200 electoral votes. But anderson, if you take away those 19 electoral votes and you're given a donald trump guess who wins the election? it's donald trump with 281 electoral votes. The bottom line is kamala harris was in pennsylvania today. She'll be going back over and over and over again and she'll be joined by donald trump because the bottom line is whoever wins, pennsylvania is most likely going to win the presidency all right. Harry enten, thanks very much. Joey south pennsylvania democratic senator john fetterman, senator. Thanks for being with us given what we're seeing in the polls from pennsylvania, how confident are you that vice president harris? chris will be able to repeat present biden's win. There i do believe and i think it's just think he's saying that the vice president is going to win in pennsylvania and ultimately become our next president. But i've been saying that same thing since 2016 that this is going to be incredibly close. And it's going to come down in many sense, like a coin toss at this point and the poles and some of the other different kinds of factors. It's going to be very close. And that's what i've been consistently saying and i feel really good about it. But at the end of the day that dynamic really hasn't changed and i don't expect it to is are there do you think every most people i mean, the vast majority people have made up their minds and it's a question of getting people out or is there room to finding people who traditionally haven't come out to vote and get them out to vote. And are there a lot of undecideds? can you think i do think a vast majority of people have decided that you have donald trump talking about eating the dogs and eating the cats and those kinds of bizarre things and now palling around like an absolute nut lake. Laura loomer, and those kinds of things. But there's a lot of people that really he liked that or they want that. Some people may can understand why somebody would want to sign up for four more years of that mess but it's going to be close. Look at in 2016, you have clinton, she was supreme lee qualified and 13 debates actually won all three of the debates. And she lost by 45,000 votes and joe biden actually won by 80,000 out of millions and millions of votes. So it's been close in the last two elections. And i wouldn't be surprised if it's not the same situation in 2024 you accompanied vice president harris to one or two pennsylvania counties that she visited today, that trump won by double digits in 2020. I know you've been pony up democrats going to read counties where trump is popular. What do you think resonates particularly there and who there is persuadable these are incredibly important kinds of counties, like we were in cambria and the drive in there from pittsburgh area when i drove for the rally in johnstown, you see a lot of trump signs and you see a lot of news, yes. Them on the ground for harris and walz as well. It just shows how divided we are in pennsylvania. And you've got to show up in places like erie or cambria or in wilkesbarre or in bucks county all across pennsylvania and i'm really think it needs to be like a trench war. And the small counties since law markets all across pennsylvania to reach the reachable kinds of voters there. And i think a majority of pennsylvania are going to realize that that harris and walz is the kinds of ticket that is really true. The new way forward through that, unless you want like a person who is talking about eating dogs and other kinds of bizarre things i know you've said you don't think fracking will be a defining issue in pennsylvania is zale an issue obviously, that matters to voters there, the vice president says, her position is is what it is that she is not going to ban fracking. How think that is enough? do you think that makes a difference know, it's it's it's not she's not going to ban fracking and i know she's very supportive of the energy industry is well, but but if fracking is, it isn't an issue, but it's not a defining issue. It's talking about one significant they can it's a very distinct it's the voice, it's the choice there in 24 as it's the same kind of a choice. And it's going to be a gut check kind of a thing majority of people will decide that they want four years of donald trump kind of chaos and did basement or did you want a new way forward like that's harris and i think as a majority of people will do that, but it is going to be very close. I wish i had a different kinds of something more exciting to say that i've been saying for eight years, parts of this, but i am optimistic and you see it's undeniable there is significant energy on the ground for harris here, i've witnessed it in a couple of different kinds of events all across there. And tomorrow night, i'm going to westmoreland county dinner. And that's an important kinds of county. It's a red county, but there's a lot of support there as well to and you got to fight and scratched for every last vote and those kinds of counties that it might be read on a map. But it's not the color, it's actually the margins there. And if we're able to blunt some of those trump margins in those deep red counties at 1%, those can be lethal if that's across pennsylvania. But if you blunt those down into the 70s, into the 60s, that's why harris is going to be our next president senator john fetterman. I appreciate your time. Thank you up next should a star nfl quarterback retire after his third concussion? some other big name former players are urging him to do just act. 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In practical jokers, all new thursday's attack on tbs set your dvr now tonight about player safety in the nfl, at least two hall of fame players and a current head coach of suggested the star quarterback, the miami dolphins should consider retiring after his third diagnose concussion to a tagovailoa struggled to get up after this collision with a buffalo defender late in the game last night. And this is not the first time this has happened during the 2022 season. He was brutally thrown down, his head, hit the ground. That game he was carried off the field in a stretcher it was his first of two diagnosed concussions into that season. It came about 40 days after a controversial decision to let him continue to play after he was seen stumbling and shaking his head following a hit now the nfl and the players association updated its concussion protocol because of that incident it's dentally the bills defender involved in last night's hit with safety damar hamlin. You may remember that name. He collapsed last year during nationally televised monday night game after taking a shot to the chest during a tackle cpr was performed on the field after he lost his pulse, he needed resuscitation and defibrillation. And later a ventilator. Really this morning he wrote on x my love and prayers with two official slang for sure, sending you strength and healing for a speedy recovery, much love, grosky our chief medical correspondent, dr. Sanjay gupta joins us. So what is your reaction when you see this hits sanjay? well, it's brutal. I mean, it's just i think for anybody it looks brutal. I think for a neurosurgeon myself, it's particularly horrifying if we can show that again, that you showed some of this already and i just want to point out a couple of things. When you actually see what happens to, to this is just normal speed what? we'll saw, but this is slowing it down. Now watch as he lowers his shoulder and the amount of force you can actually see his head and his cervical spine who top of his mind actually sort of be pushed back as a result of that. And then after that, there's a significant rotation as well to his neck then he falls to the ground we subsequently learned that it was on the ground for a couple of minutes. But look what happens with his right hand over here, anderson that's called a fencing position fencing position like that. And that's something that's involuntary. It's a reflex that occurs and it's happening because of this injury to the area between the brain and the spinal cord in area known as the brainstem. Let me just show you here quickly. This is the brain we saw that significant force on the top of the head here. And then the rotation these, these pathways between the brain and the spinal cord down here have to run through the brainstem and those areas are disrupted. So this is a significant traumatic brain injury. It's a traumatic brain injury that's what it is. That's what you have to call it and as you pointed out, when you're talking about this, there are different criteria that are the sort of nogo criteria. I mean, someone is absolutely not returning to the field as a result of what's happened to two in the past they actually revise some of that criteria in addition to loss of consciousness, confusion, amnesia, and seizure, there's also the fencing position and something known as a taxi, which is basically stumbling, unable to get your balance so he he met a lot of criteria for that and it was really scary to watch anderson i mean, in 2022, he had multiple concussions. They're talking about whether he would retire, then what kind of effect do multiple concussions have on the brain of a 26yearold? yeah. Well, first of all, it's interesting. I think when you look at the concussion research, what we're starting to learn is that there are some people who just are more easily concussed than others. The biggest predictor if you're going to have a concussion is whether or not you've had a concussion in the past and the former chancellor at unc, dr. Kevin guskiewicz, one on mcarthur genius grant for this work. But he found that when you've had three concussions, which we know that he's to attack him, has at least three concussions. It raises the risk threefold for having another concussion and i think that's what's got a lot of people concerned. I mean, he is just someone who's brain is more easily concussed. What the longterm impact is, is hard to say. I mean, if you don't have a lot of data on people that have had that many concussions in such a short time and severe ones at that. But clearly you have a longterm cognitive impact. In addition, listen to the shortterm effects that we're seeing there. When does it mean how does he go back on? when is he allowed to go back on the field yeah. So the protocols are a little bit vague in this regard and they're handled player to player and even team to team. But i had to sort of summarize it. What happens is people are slowly allowed to do certain things. They may start to do some limited activity. They may start to do some aerobic activity slowly doing more and more practice, but here's the thing. Each time you go up in stage, in terms of what you're doing, if someone develops any symptoms if they have any of the symptoms that i just showed on the previous screen, obviously. But even if they develop things like headache or things like that, then they sort of get downgraded again, you have to work through all the stages that you're looking there on the screen before you can actually return to play. There's no definitive timeline. Lot of people are asking us about him in particular, but there's no definitive time line i think people are worried about him obviously, but they want to see how he progresses through these phases. So disturbing to see that sanjay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Yeah. Coming up next the latest chapter in donie o'sullivan is continuing series misinfonation, 24yearold went from being a socalled bernie bro to embracing some pretty far right ideas. I'll be right back lot of people in america were watching and then the next day, our world changed murphy has baby coil has cao owns coming out episode says we're all gets okay to be gay george bush does not care about black people i never said something that i wrote with me to a culture war. You didn't she? he's got like tv on the edge, moments that shaped our culture from the air sunday, september 22, did nine on cnn you love this style of shoe. 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That at all, just like you're not prepared to admit that israel is a terrorist organization, you wrong, kim jong moon it is a peace seeking leader. We're going to d nato phi, you can, and we're going to denazify. You. Just sound completely bonkers. And the people in the established palestinian movement just wanted to stop he and his followers call themselves maga communists and that isn't supposed to be a joke the crowd here was mostly male and mostly twice. I will just say once and for all so piers morgan never asked to ask me again. No. I do not condemn hamas jackson social media following skyrocketed after the october 7 attack on israel i've been a rush. I've been to china their major cities are much nicer, but jackson had barely started speaking about gaza veterans know russia's better and stronger than ever before, and their leader has a very high approval ratings before he launched into pro russia and prochina talking points, the more america supports real terrorists entities like israel, real tears countries like ukraine, the more that we strengthen our actual enemies. Most of what is said about vladimir putin in the mainstream press is just factually not true, illegally problems jackson has become a darling of the kremlin and russian state tv it's made multiple trips to russia this year. We're in talk which is just a few kilometers away from the front line and back but jackson wasn't always like this just a few years ago, he was a softspoken southern california kid, a bernie sanders supporter who even run for city council as a progressive why do you think the russians like you so much i speak true. You are in some ways the quintessential american man, right? you're surfer guy, california. So for the russians or the chinese to have somebody like you to go over there and basically schitt's all over america? no, no, no? oh, no shooting on america. I love this country. I love the people. I just wanted to be better. Is there not a way to do that? what else? having to fly back andforth to moscow? and seem to be embracing authoritarian regimes. Well, they're far less authoritarian, didn't the united states man, man ultimately, you know, ultimately, i live in a generation where for the first time there's going to be a lower standard of living than the previous generation that's not good. And i mean, i get i hear all that. You can genuinely say that people in russia and people in china have more liberties and people in the united states well, there's no free speech you have, you have a lot of free speech really. You think i have free speech. You don't think you have free speech, you know, i mean, what's the public square today? it's obviously social media. You have 3 million followers on x. You can pose whatever you want your hosting events here how do you not have free speech while kind of various speeches being curtailed, very simple. It's very simple. Yes, i've 3 million followers on x. But what about instagram? i've been banned. Youtube, i've been ban. I was banned from riaa, a dating site. Jackson's bans might have something to do with his repeated sharings of hateful posts and his celebrations of violence
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