Tonight, seconddegree murder charges against the father of the georgia school shooter, eject new intensity into the national debate on gun plus the cost of a donald trump win economists say the former president's plans would take money out of american wallets. Also cell block, tango, trump makes a threat to imprison democrats and an indictment, accuses maga influencers of doing the kremlin's work as vladimir putin trolls the world by revealing who he wants to win in 2024 live at the table. Erin green ashley allison shermichael singleton, jamal hill, and brian stelter sure welcome to a special edition of newsnight, state of the race good evening i'm abby phillip in new york. Let's get right to what america is talking about. A potential flashpoint in a national crisis? breaking news tonight, the father of the suspected school shooter in georgia. He is now under arrest and he has been charged with two counts of seconddegree murder, among other things, police say that colin gray gifted his son an ar 15 style rifle for christmas, even after concerns from authorities and he knowingly allowed him to have access to that weapon the 14yearold boy use this gun to kill two of his classmates and two teachers. So we'll accountability like this ultimately be a deterrent in mass shootings here at the table with us in new york last night on this very show, sitting right where you are last night montel williams without knowing any of this, without knowing that this weapon wasn't just in the house, but it was given to this kid. This is what he said sure. Hold these parents more accountable, let's start locking those parents up by 15, 20 years. Then we're going to start seeing at lease responsibility and the gun ownership world that is the question. Tonight. Four counts, not not you know, manslaughter he needs not just manslaughter because he's facing four involuntary manslaughter, but he's also chasing facing murder charges straight up. Murder charges. Will this make a difference? i mean, to be honest, it does in some ways and let me just i don't have kids. Right. Okay. And i'm not saying that you haven't kids are not having kids means that you can't be a part of this conversation, but the part that i worry about the most is whether or not it's a slippery slope. I think in this case, the charges are fair because even if this was the most responsible child of all time, why would buying a military style weapon be a good idea to put in the hands of a 14yearold, any 14yearold. Okay. If they get that straight a's, i don't care if they come home whole time. If they veggies say they prayers, it doesn't matter. That is not the type of weapon that belong in that belongs in at child's hands but i do think that i think about how potentially something like this could be weaponized against the most vulnerable parents. And that's where i get a little bit concerned, but i think in cases of obvious neglect with this, what would happen in the case of michigan? and with the crumbleys and the school shooting there? yes, that makes sense. When you are knowingly putting the selfdestructive things in the hands of children and you know, they have problems as a parent, you have to answer that. I'm just not sure if the blanket answer is all parents need to be responsible for what their children do knowingly part is the key part here because the police came to this family and said we have reports that your son might be plotting an attack on a school, attacked basically like the one that happened. And then months later, you go out and you buy a weapon i put my kids on the bus today was the first day of school and i was thinking to myself, i'm responsible for every aspect of their lives. I'm responsible for how my kindergartener is going to behave in class today. I'm hoping these nice to the fellow kids. I'm hoping that he behaves. I'm hoping is on a bully if i'm responsible for that, then of course i'm responsible for something like this and whether that ends at 17 or 18, or 19, there's interesting discussion to have about exactly what the cutoff is. But for a 14yearold it seems pretty clear. I mean, look, i i just wonder to jamil's point in terms of culpability, does it stop, begin, end with the parents. What about the fbi visited the parents? could they have done more? what about the school's obligation to protect other students should they have done more? what about law enforcement? i mean, there's so many questions here, abby and i get mantel's point, but there are a lot of responsible gun owners in this country. I'm from the south, many people that i know have kids were very young who are competitive shooters, pistol shot guns, ars and there are perfectly responsible, but i don't want to differentiate between the response that you can. I mean i understand what you're saying, but but but but a child i don't know that even a child who is maybe you do competitive shooting or hunting or whatever. I don't know that you could say that child is responsible for what they do with that weapon error scenarios controlled scenario, right? so i want to clarity there. But i'm just simply saying i just don't want to demonize every single person with an ar 15 or would guns generally speaking. But again, back to my original point in terms of culpability, where does it begin? where does it end? and could the other entities involved in this process? did they have done more? i don't think we have an answer to that. I think that that's a really fair point. It's where does the culpability lie and where is the structure for it? because there have been states that have begun to pass some legislation about parents being more responsible for their children's actions. And i think to your point as well, what you are saying is that those most vulnerable my also get caught up in this there. I'm sure there are plenty of parents out there who have been sounding the alarm, begging for help with their children and just not able to access resources to be able to get their children on the right path. My concern as well would be is yes, bear, there'll be a very your record. What however, this legislation is written because i'm sure many many states will begin looking at this more aggressively now, is that you need to be able to set those standards for parents. Is it does it start with your child beat up someone at school. So now you're reliable for the violent act or for violent acts like, where are these lines and these graves? these are always the toughest things to militaries will decide that's what worked the crumbley case. But the jury is do you still go after black mothers who have young sons who may find themselves in trouble in the street, do prosecutors, mostly white, so are going after them because i would have a problem with that. Now where this party lived through that, when black families are prosecuted under the notion of the dysfunctional family. So we've seen that happened and it doesn't work in an effective way i don't think we can talk about this in like an isolated solution. I'm a former teacher. If i knew and i taught special education and i had children that were emotionally disturbed. And if i had known that one of my parents bought one of my children a gun and i call them my children because they were my students i would be terrified. I will be calling that to even know that they'd nobody knew that. But for a parent to do that for a child that has already been brought saying that if you listen to the audio, the father says, i'm off to know that my son was talking about a school shooting. So if you're off to know that your son is talking about a school shooting. I'm off that you bought him the gun and the parents now have we have parents who will never see their children. Again, we have a whole 2000 students who were traumatized, probably for the rest of their life with ptsd. If you listen to the students that many of our anchors were in, reporters were interviewing, they were trembling with fear, just having to relive that. But i don't think it's just about the parents being responsible i think that instance this is the right case, and i think the crumbley case was the right decision by do they have an ar 15 and this goes back to why don't we have more mental health services. We always want to go to a oneshot solution versus what using the word poorly but a one stop solution when we know that these issues are more complicated and i've just i've been thinking a lot about like, what would i do if i was alive 50 years ago. But i also think like, what will people think about as in 100 years when they see children year after year after year getting murdered in schools and u. S. Arguing about whether or not we should have taken the weapons away from them i just ask, i wonder what the answer was going to play? what j. D. Vance, the republican nominee, nominee for vice president, said about this when he was asked earlier tonight the kamala harris answer to this is to take law abiding american citizens guns away from you've got some states with very strict gun laws and you've got some states. They don't have strict gun laws at all and the state's was strict gun laws. They have a lot of school shootings and the states without strict gun laws, some of them have school shootings to so clearly strict gun laws is not the thing that is gonna solve this problem. Well, that's quite an answer you know and that's probably the part of the general apathy of this. Like we have become nation of like what we just can't do anything. We, you know, we have more guns twice as many guns as people hear. That's that's the reality of where we are to your point it's like when you think about if you're in a time capsule when you look back now at this time and what we would have done, the answer would have been nothing that were just spinning the inertia. First of all, vice president harris didn't say she wanted to take all the guns away, so he started with a lab right away and people think the slightest bit of regulation, like can we all agree not a good idea they're under 18 to have an assault rifle. Not a good idea. Don't care who you are. It is not a good idea to do this. Are very simple things that i think i'd like to thank the rational part of our brains would say it's probably not good that you can purchase a highly powerful weapon before you can actually vote by alcohol and before you can actually drive a car like what this does that make what we're just a small isn't really a republican, but i take but you can't the parents would have to buy the weapon for the child if it wasn't for the fact that that is even possible, just seems like just little things. Nobody's asking that we've lost the battle in terms of coming into every home and taking never gun and i don't think that's just a common sense solution. Anyway, it's just small things. The fact in georgia, i believe in you can correct me if i'm wrong. The fact that the police already were flagged about his behavior would've been a red flag law i get that point about red flag laws, but also gmail, there's some data that suggests red flag laws disproportionately impact black men and i wouldn't want someone because they're afraid of a black person who lives across the street from them, call the police and all of a sudden the judge is saying there's a black man. You need to go and take his guns away. That likely is it going to work out very well? well for that black man or that black woman would that a black family. So i do have some concerns there. I get the point. The vice president isn't saying what you just said though. From what i have seen, i have seen a blanket removal of all ar 15s. I personally would not be in support of that. I think our history in this country shows me that any weapon that we have access to, we should have have a right to those weapons to defend ourselves. So that will be a counter on the counter argument that people who support assault weapons ban make is that there's already been one. And in the period of time when there was one, these types of crimes didn't have the effective it was very effective way they are 15s, but violence with pistols continued and most of most people and most murders in the country occur with a pistol, not with i understand that point. In fact like i really i don't own a gun. I go back and forth about whether or not i'm going to buy a gun i think people i believe in the second amendment what, who is using an ar 15 to but to protect themselves at this point, it's actually there is the most popular hunting rifle in the country for hunter. But you're asking if we use it no. Protect themselves well, that i just me on that, but it is an incredibly popular hunting rat. I mean, it's an people, weapon and some of it is almost like some of it is the allure of the powerful but do however, i grew up, people have their home for protection. I mean, i don't want to go in this direction. Kids were killed, but people do use them in their homes for protection. Just a shot guns. If you have a wife is a lot easier for a woman to use an ar 15 to protect herself. She's home alone versus a pistol which requires a ton of skills or a shotgun which is a lot more difficult for a woman to be able to control our in a small environment so there is a u. S. Purpose for a home. Why and make again, proved me wrong but the stories of the wife protecting herself from domestic violence is not about ar 15. The story is that the children are being blown away and we don't even get to sometimes recognize their bodies because those weapons are so aggressive and violent. And i guess i just sometimes like i like to eat cake. Right. But i can't take every day because it's not good for me, so i don't eat cake. And so like maybe having an ar 15 because it's not a weapon that is going to keep our children safe. Maybe it's like maybe we can give some things up for the greater good of our children to keep to keep should i not have a right to own they are 50 i don't get right so you don't think i need one, so that means i should just give it up. I don't think anybody needs one. Yeah. We just want to agree on that then. I would rather those kids and teachers be alive. Then you have an ar 15. And quite honestly i think their lives are more surfers. Now they're, i'll say it again. I mean the word we're talking here as if it is unheard of that these weapons could be banned, but it has happened in this very country before i know what i noticed that the second amendment didn't go away when forget but i but ashley, you were saying but what i remember the difference because i was in high school when columbine happened the first school shooting that really led to the banning of ar 15s and that there were people who took leadership across the aisles and realize that some of our greatest indulgence don't need to be satisfied if they keep children safe yes, guys we have to leave it there. Everyone stay with me coming up next. We've got more breaking news. 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And here is what trump said today is the big picture of his overall pitch i am promising low taxes, low regulations, low energy costs low interest rates secure borders, low, low, low crime brian will be back in a little bit, but we also have another special guest here in our fifth seed, catherine rampell here, because this is right up your alley. I mean from what you heard today, from trump, i mean, that pitch, you know, what, eight seconds, maybe ten seconds, very easy, very simple. Everything is low under trump. But does he really have the details to back it up? no no. If you look at the actual policy plans that he has put out to the extent that he's put out any they are primarily things that would raise prices hurt economic growth. It's not just goldman sachs and mark zandi and doug holtzeakin and other people who have said that there are many forecasts because these are things that have been tried before so for example, having a global tariff of 10%, 20%, he goes back and forth, plus 60% on china, right? that one would raise costs for consumers because that means tariffing. Everything that comes into the united states his previous round of tariffs, we have lots of studies on those, those additional costs were passed onto consumers in the form of higher taxes and in fact, there was, there's a bunch of estimates from the peterson institute of international economics that shows that the typical family would pay $2,600 more per year as a result of those tariffs. More than they would get in income tax cuts. So basically, all of the benefit that he he's been bragging about, you know, we're going to cut your tax rates, et cetera, that wouldn't be entirely wiped out by tariffs. So here's jpmorgan oregon's david kelley. It is one of those magical economic proposals that could actually cause inflation and put you in a recession at the same time, it's a twoyearolds mentality. You punch someone in the nose and expect them not to punch you back? yeah. I mean, look, first of all, let's give credit where it's due. He he sat up there, he showed up. He took while we give it credit teleprompter i'm going to credit for it because because now we know what he is going to do. Now we know what he says. But here is also what it sounded like when he was asked a pretty straightforward question about what he would do to lower child care costs in this country? if you win in november, can you commit to prioritizing legislation to make child care affordable and if so, what specific piece of legislation? you advanced. Well, i would do that and we're sitting down. I was somebody we had senator marco rubio and my daughter, ivanka were so impactful on that issue. Two very important issue. But i think when you talk about the kind of numbers that i'm talking about, that because child care and childcare is couldn't, you know this something you have to have it in this country, you have to have it we do have to have it can agree on you have to have about what is going on i mean, look i didn't have any fair the former president's team as much as they possibly can that they need to have some kind of a messaging point where he can memorize. I think jd has actually memorize it elser, so i think jamie, you remember already effective been talking about increasing the child tax credit, the benefits to the american families really large. You've actually seen that in interviews he's more steeped in policy. The former president is not steeped in policy. I think he's more senior policy. Catherine the former president, were configured exact same question. I believe it was today or yesterday about what would you do to make childcare more affordable? jake, j. D. Vance jd and his response was basically, why don't you just ask you're the grant but like, oh, people never thought of it as part of a part of the response. It may be culturally some people might say, look my grip, my grandparents, my parents are retired. They can help take care of my kids. I can understand that argument away, but he did pivot and he said, well, some people will not have that luxury and then he went on to explain what some alternatives could be. So i do want to get some. Did you see what the alternatives we're i know we're going in soon. We're going to agree on the alternative you laid having fewer requirements for child care professionals. Actually, i think there's something to be said and i do think that in some states require a bachelor's degree, things like that, or even a master's degree, not going to be sufficient for increasing the supply of childcare. Because fundamentally, there is a wedge between how you can afford to pay child care professionals versus how much families can afford to pay, right? it's childcare is already extremely expensive and you have two people who work in child care, often making minimum wage because it just a really labor intensive industry and so you have to have some sort of subsidy program, at least for people who are very low income step in, in order to bridge that gap. So that goes to know about the $5,000 tax credit. I think he said a couple of weeks ago. I think either will cbs he was an effective strategy there was blood on the child tax credit and he didn't show up at vance, said that trump the trump campaign said will take that under advisement, that that is what i saw. He did not confirm that that is actually their policy so to me, this is the type of thing where the question is, does trump really believe in any of this or does he really think that the entire solution to all the problems is just more tariffs that was a very popular word he used certainly during this economic remarks, there are two things i will say here. I think he was trying to say, which is always a perilous thing, having worked for the former president trying to explain or elaborate it's a dangerous lane to be playing in. But what he was trying to talk about was the paid family leave that was done under ivanka trump's lead help at the white house to help federally employees with more time off when they have family demand, which but ivanka was there and it was done under president trump, so they can but that was what it was democrats. I'm not arguing about the merits of it. I'm talking about how that happened, but here but they democrats demanded it in exchange for a trade from her, but it got done under republican president so back to the point here, this is why kamala harris isn't doing these kind of speeches and isn't taking freewheeling questions like this because this is the peril of it the deeper you go into the policy discussion, the more you talk about the nuance. And while he battled thing to do. But this is a landmine always disagree with that at all. But person a part of tariffs is what's getting into trouble don't notice how truly moronic he sounds to you. See him in certain environments and i hate to say it, but like at a rally, it's different it's not different for me because i considered all to be dangerous and willfully on competent in his party but the reason why this will land differently than it does when he's at a rally is because he's in a room this is going to sound disrespectful, but i don't meet it this respectfully. Is of serious people like that have that have very pointed questions to ask him and i've seen the vice president asked that same question. About what she plans to do about childcare and you could not it could not be more different. In how these two answer. You could tell he has not thought about this. He hasn't thought about anything. He's been he his entire game plan before she became at the top of the ticket was to just ridicule joe biden, led him flail on his own he didn't have to actually put in any effort and that's showing up now in the campaign because he has to, he has to actually have coherence campaign argued. He doesn't have anything. If he has the same trixie always making the argument that they should have some time if you want to make you want to make an argument that harris isn't answering questions, doesn't have policies than trump also has to have paulo's on the other side, right only one person to like i mean, i don't want to go back in time, but like if joe biden would have given that answer, would have been all over that he was dementia and parkinson's and all the talking points right. Has been throwing about him not being a capable president. We should worry that that man is, you should worry that that is that your candidate at the top of the ticket? he could not put a coherent sentence together and something that i would assume he planned variable very hard for and it was somewhat of a friendly audience. These are supposed to be people who are business folks and that he's a businessman and i don't know if he had the questions before, but i'm sure he had some framing of who would be asking the questions and what they would be about like give us two sentences, man, like, i take that point and i think you the former president, needs to get a better grasp and understanding of economics generally speaking, catherine's written a lot about this, but i would also like to see the vice president talk about her price control policies. Great article by the way, i would like to see her talk about how she's going to tax unrealized gains and the impact that that's going to have potentially on startups. So she should go before the same group have been why there's one, there's one thing i'll say is that catherine equal opportunity all the time now she's will go over to her column. She she can give it to you on both sides. Catherine thank you very much for being here. 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Donald trump threatening to imprison vice presidential candidate kamala harris, or vice president kamala harris and his other political opponents just listened to what he said she in her party or censoring speech weaponizing the justice system and trying to throw their political opponents me, in jail. This hasn't happened i didn't do that to crooked. Hillary, i said that would be a terrible thing, wouldn't it putting the wife of the president of the united states in jail, but they view it differently, i guess nowadays, but that's it's okay and they always have to remember that two can play the game brian stelter is back with us it's so interesting to watch him say that because he's mulling it, it's something that keeps coming up over and over again. And it's not the first time. I mean, this was the clip clip that kind of got him in trouble and in this clip, you'll see sean hannity is trying to steer him away from this, but here's what trump said under no circumstances, you are promising america tonight. You would never abuse power as retribution against anybody except for day one. I want to close the border and i want to drill. That's not that's that's not that's not retribution i got i'm going to be gonna be you know, he this guy, he says you're not going to be a dictator, are you? i said no, no, no. Other than day one, which closing the border. And we're drilling drilling drilling after that, i'm not a day brian as someone who covered trump, sometimes the one thing that you really have to do is just listen to him just listen to what he's saying. I'm take the word seriously. He says to complete that game, nothing about this as a game, of course but it's good that trump is saying this stuff out loud. Voters do need to hear it. If people haven't read the new york times publishers essay today for the washington post or ag salzberger wrote an essay describing how trump is credit been from the autocratic playbook that we've seen around the world. And not just strongmen, also from democratic leader or leaders who use the levers of government to punish their enemies it's exactly what trump is talking about. He's doing it in plain sight, but we in america needed to learn from what others experience and other countries, because it may well happen here. We also need to understand that unlike previously when he was president, there were i think there were some guardrails air there was some there were some mechanism in place, so where his worst instincts wouldn't totally be played out. And i just don't think that'll be the case now. So that is the danger. And the threat beyond these are not just words, these are the things he will actually try to do. And i don't think that there's going to be that same sense of safety that like, oh we can talk him out of this. Like, i don't think there's going to be any talking out of it. I think is going to actually he's convinced it already happened to him. Yes. That's smart of the public writ large. There are plenty of republicans and conservatives who feel that the government has been used against them. They point to lois lerner and the irs targeted conservatives and their status. They would point into merrick garland and the doj putting out letters, calling parents terrorists at school board meetings. This is donald trump. Speaking, but this is donald trump speaking to that core group that sits within maga republicans say, i'm the one fighting for you and all honesty when you say he's been saying this for a long time, if you take the tape way back, he said this exact thing to hillary clinton during the debate in 2016, where he said, you'd be in jail. So far he hasn't jailed or prosecuted or persecuted any of his political adversaries, not because he has a try exactly. One correction. I want to say is that he said to complete that game, nobody is playing a game with him though republicans, republican maga concern. No game two. I know he's speaking to, but he doesn't have an opponent in this alvin bragg is not acting on the behalf of some deepstate agent or joe biden, donald trump was convicted by a jury of his peers, his equals. And so you have to believe in somewhat of the system and it's not. Is he playing the game against his the jurors on the case? grand juries have indicted him. Is he playing a game with them? he's telling people this false notion to gin them up to say that the system hasn't worked is a system perfect? no. But we my self as a progressive often gets demonized when i say he is a threat to democracy. But when you say things like that and you say he'll be a dictator on day one wanted to jamal's point. He the guardrails are off we talked about earlier. We have to look at the totality of circumstances and we're all intelligent enough to know to say that he has topped about retribution. He has talked about being big dictum. He hasn't taken accountability for january 6 or the or that he's even as lost the election hey this week on camera that he lost, that was interesting i just want to point out, look lowfare. Well, good what mechanisms would the former president and for like the utilized to accomplish this, would it be the doj is the hold up is the expectation that every single judge that he's appointed, every conservative judge would all of a sudden say if these cases were theoretically to come before me, i'm going to rule in favor of the president even though we know many of them have ruled against him, even with the voter fraud issue. So what's the mechanisms? well, we may have talked about and i know people say it's not his agenda, but a project 2025 is laid out how he would actually do it. He wants to extract polit or the career appointees that are the safeguards of a lot of our institutions to then put in people that would do the things that he wanted to do. We already saw how we kind of broke through the firewall of the doj with bill barr and telling him certain things to do. We saw it in georgia when he said find me 11,780 votes, we've seen him play this game. And so the more knowledge you have and as yours, as a sitting, i worked in the white house for three years. If i go back, i know a lot more now than i do on day one. And so what we're saying is that he's been president for four years. He's surrounding himself with people who are taking autocratic playbooks. And we're just saying maybe he does, maybe our system works well enough not to be able to do it. But do you want your leader to want to do it? i understand the premise of the argument, but again, to go back to my point, what mechanism what he utilized to accomplish it, not theoretical oceans written a 900 plus page and probably 2025 firing career. Here's what mexican in the months. And i just haven't seen the months between the november election and january 6, trump attempted to use the department of justice to pursue a now he admits completely from our juliette and madeup effort to overturn the results of a free and fair election that actually had us to utilize that factual people in those departments to do that. But those departments will do withstood think that is today, right. But the other way you were making career, the career bureaucrats in those who work within the infrastructure. This is another thing that conservative republicans definitely have an issue with because when they do get into the white house, which was what four of the last 16 years, the ability to effectuate that change and put through the executive actions or the legislative priorities, gets gummed up by those who are the courage fear bureaucrats that sit within those institutions were not effectuating the will of the government, whether it be the legislative or the executive branch because of their own partisan reasons. That's what they want to root out. They're not trying to upend the government so that they can overthrow and all of a sudden make this a totalitarian dictatorship. What they want to do is root out the people who are not allowing them effectuated change that either the legislative or the of decorative branch have within these bureaucratic institutions. So that they can get, we do have to leave it there. 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And also to boost trump's candidacy back at the table here putin if nothing else, he is a great troll they really understands the facial expression part of this, but this is actually quite serious and amazingly effective how this all worked out, especially when you look at the way that according to these indictments, using media funding media, and then boosting trolls people i shouldn't call them trolls. Boosting these individuals who are on the right, right, and who tend to have huge followings. Some of it is trolling actually a lot of it sounds like this when it comes to the war in ukraine ukraine is also a giant. There's a huge money laundering operation there, and it's not as we keep this idea that if we're selling freedom through ukraine or something is extremely, i would say tenuous at best oh, you think your green has become a tool for americans effectively, just money launder to themselves it's precisely what's happening. Ukraine is the enemy of this country ukraine is our enemy being funded by the democrats. I will stress again, one of the greatest enemies of our nation right now is ukraine and to be clear according to this, they did not necessarily know what was behind this, but they are feeding into a narrative that's incredibly useful to my first media literacy tip is if someone's yelling at you like that through their, their web camera in their basement. Like don't trust that person you know, that's that's my number one tip. Russia just meddling and trolling like it should be a 9010 issue in this country that this is something that should off every american. But instead it's a 5050 issue because of what we went through during the trump years, because donald trump told his fans and all the russian interference during the election was made up and these russian propaganda, as they have wormed their way into the minds of some rightwing media stars of course as you said, that some of these guys say they were victims there may well be true, but the broader dynamic here is pretty clear that by and people's, you can find out that putin is pushing trump. He's pushing narratives that trump is endorsing these antiukraine narratives trump is trying to make the argument that putin is afraid of him, but just the evidence that is out there just really suggests otherwise. So you know, i look at this through the lens of national security. I don't think this is really a republican or democratic issue. We have a adversary attempting to interfere and a major election republican, democrat, whatever the hell you believe the line should be drawn there, united states, clearly the sanctions we've put against russia, they are not working. Maybe we need to increase sanctions potentially against china. One of russia's closest adversaries, what we have to figure this out, abby, this goes beyond just trump for me. It does. When you look at it when we look writ large at our geopolitical foe is and their attempts to meddle everywhere in the united states. It's all over the news this week. Look at governor kathy hochul of new york, where there was a ccp spy working as a federal taxpayer employee in the state of new york under both the cuomo and hochul administration's, this doesn't know a party issue. This knows a country issue. This says our foreign adversaries trying to meddle in the direction of our nation, whether it be democrat or republican. And i completely agree with you, the line stands right there for every american, some people are just playing right into their unanimous here is everyone hold on for us coming up next, the panel will get give us there night caps, including a very special reminder that life is unpredictable as a child, my brother change do you find him. He's someone for separately i want them being you up next. Now streaming exclusively on max the keepsake frames app makes it ridiculously easy to frame your favorite photos. Just choose a photo that you love select a perfect frame, and you'll have your framed print delivered and ready to download the free kick i'm safe frames app and start framing today. 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Com if you or a loved one have mesothelial not we'll send you a free book to answer questions you may have called now, and will come to you 800 a31, 3,700 we're back and it's time for the news nightcap. You each have 30 seconds to say your piece shermichael, you're right, so we were just talking about russia and china and pew research has an analysis that came out last year that talked about how dem, overview most americans have on the future of the country. 71% say the u. S. Will be less important in the world. That's a problem. 77% say will be more politically divided an 81% says a gap between the rich and the poor will continue to grow. So no, we're talking a lot about trump and vice president, but with that suggests to me is that the future of this country has really imperial if we don't address some of these issues hopefully they're not right, but i couldn't be right okay. Ashley, harry, different note rip, rich ami crime if you don't know who he is either rapper from atlanta, die today, 33, 34yearsold. He gave me your age, right i just felt like i turn our goal to social media every weekend, somebody in my age group is dying. Life is short. We can disagree at the table, tell people that you love, that you love, call your mom, call your dad if there's still in your life call your friends politics is not the end. All be all. We can sometimes get caught up in, but he was a great artist and it was just a reminder that life is short. That's very sad. It's hard to top this now chemali a much different notice sort of the sports person here so as everyone knows, there's been a big cares dispute between abc, disney with directv. A lot of very angry football fans because disney decided to add clash. Espn decided to pull their entire stations right before that ellis shoot dog, which angered everybody. But this is what i got to say the football fans listen, i know football is a national obsession, but you guys are way too thirsty by this i mean, look look this is what i mean by that is like these networks, they know they have you, right? okay. And that's part of the problem, you know, this is a media a media expert we're headed toward a very likely scenario where one day we will be playing for a super bowl. In terms of paper view, the reason why they know they can do that is like listen nfl season started tonight is on peacock. A lot of people are upset hey, i'm already paying for this, that, that in the third and i got to pay an extra $5 if i want to watch this game, i'll beat got because they know, you will i guess some point you've got to draw line in the sand and say, no night that day erin just kinda i grew up as an odd market fan like me are blacked out for years, couldn't walk to go and get very creative when you're right about this. And as i'm going to my bachelor at this this weekend, which is a buffalo bills game. You know mine is a little weird here, but it's a conspiracy theory of sorts that sandy actually dies at the beginning of greece and the entire thing is a coma. And she's imagining what life would be like head she made it to the u. S. To be with danny and at the end when she's in the car flying away, that's when she passes away and goes to heaven, grow you, rock my i've never heard of that all alright, brian, i'm last. All right. Whoever said you can't come home again is wrong. I'm here to prove them wrong, right? people might remember i was canceled a couple of years ago. I had the best two years of my life taken a little break from the news but i missed the team here, abby, it's been amazing to be back this weekend as media analyst. The truth is, i just i found myself appreciating cnn even more from the outside as a viewer. I get it. Every network has fallen. Cnn's flaw, viewers should push to make us better every day but this place is amazing. The news muscles of this place are like nothing else there, like nowhere else. So i just wanted to say it's good to be home. All right. Was good. Who says you can't come home. I hope i hit the time right brian i neglect let's just say this at the beginning of the show, but we are happy to call you a colleague again. Thank you. Welcome back to cnn. We look
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