Outfront next, the breaking news, a deadly school shooting. Police say 14yearold killed four people and injured nine student who was sitting next to the alleged gunman just before he started shooting is with us tonight plus new polls showing momentum for harris in key states but also a very important edge for trump. What is that? john king is at the magic wall? the deep dive on all these new numbers tonight. And more breaking news. Abc just announcing important new details about their presidential debate. Who speaking first, where the podiums will be and whether those mics we'll be muted or not. The rules. Let's go outfront and good evening. I'm erin burnett, outfront tonight. The breaking news pure evil those are the words from the sheriff tonight, investigating a deadly school shooting that left two students and two teachers dead, nine others hospitalized. Now recovering from gunshot wound the shooting for many, the second day of school back across this country in a school that had been back for a few weeks, taking place just about an hour outside of atlanta. According to police, the 14yearold gunman is male. This is a new video from inside the school that we've just gotten a student who was sitting next to the alleged let's gunman in the classroom using an algebra class said they were in that class together when he left the classroom, she thought to go to the bathroom a short time later, he tried to return to the classroom but didn't here's why we're about to open the door until the girl who isn't open it kind of steps back and it's like, oh, wait. And then you just kind of see him through the little window, turn almost and you just hear shots you're going to hear more from lejla, say wrath the young woman you just saw in a moment now, according to police, after that shooting, that she just described started he was very quickly confronted by a very courageous school resource officer. And that is when he surrendered. And so many of these cases, shooter's dead here in custody the shooting taking place as most kids across the united states are heading back to school. And today, both vice president kamala harris and former president trump responding this is just a senseless tragedy on top of so many senseless tragedies. And it's just outrageous that every day in our country in the united states of america that parents have to send their children to school worried about whether or not their child will come home alive it's senseless. It is. We've got to stop it former president trump also responding online, writing, our hearts are with the victims and loved ones of those affected by the tragic event and winter, georgia, these chairs children were taken from us far too soon by a sick and deranged monster. Isabel rosales is outfront, live in winder, georgia to begin our coverage. And isabel, you've been on the ground there. You've been talking thank to students. What more can you tell us erin, they've been telling us just unbelievable story, something no teeny journal person should ever witness, including one girl who saw classmate shot but in the shoulder, another who shot a teacher, shot another student who is writing to her mother saying, i know i'm not a perfect daughter, but i love you thinking that those might be her final moments. And then another student that you mentioned, laila, who was in the same class as that shooter who does she believes they only survive because the door automatically locked. These accounts, horrifying high school students evacuating and winder, georgia, one by one out to safety, your head up on the wall some joined a prayer circle after reviving the deadliest school shooting in the u. S. Since march of last year according to the director of the georgia bureau of investigation to students and two teachers were killed at apalachee high school. Nine others were injured and hospitalized for with gunshot wound the shooter who opened fire wednesday morning shortly after 10:00 a. M. Identified as 14yearold student cold gray, who surrendered after being confronted by school resource officers within minutes, law enforcement was on scene as well as two school resource officers assigned here to the school, who immediately encountered the subject within just minutes of this report going out once they encountered the subject, the subject immediately surrender to these officers. And he was taken into custody. Multiple law enforcement officials tell cnn, the school received a phone call this morning morning that there would be shootings at five schools starting with there's the call is now being investigated. The sheriff meanwhile, says he wasn't aware of any calls. A massive law enforcement response, including the fbi and atf were on the scene working with state, local, and federal rowe officers, junior leyla foreman was in the bathroom when the school alarm went off. I was scared. I was going to die to be honest. And when i heard hard lock down and i knew it wasn't drew i immediately texted my dad and i was just like, i don't know if this is a drill. I'm really scared and i just kept my feet up and i cried. Many parents rushed to the school like aaron clark and for receiving these text messages from her 17yearold son, ethan school shooting. I'm scared, please. I'm not joking i'm leaving work. Says the mom. I love you, love you too, baby others in disbelief. I tried to get here soon as possible. I mean, it's just it's crazy, something like this happens in such a small town let's small county. You just never know what's going to happen. I was just grateful that she was still good sheriff jack smith vowed to stay strong for his community i went to school in the school system my kids go to school system i'm proud of their school system my heart hurts for these kids my heart hurts for our community but i want to make it very clear that hate will not prevail in this county and just in the last hour here, this flag right here in apple lashing high school has been lowered to halfstaff a sign that something horrible has happened here, a mark of respect for the two teachers that have been gone down and two students nine others also injured this community. Erin is going through something horrendous here schools have been closed for the remainder of the week and we also have been told by investigators that the alleged shooter will be charged with murder, and it is their time to try him as an adult. All right. Isabel, thank you very much i want to go now to leylah, say wrath, she's 16yearsold. She's a junior at apalachee high school and was sitting next to the suspected gunman moments before the deadly shooting occurred. And leyla, thank you so much for being willing to do this, for sharing this how are you even doing right now i'm doing okay. It hasn't really affected me too much just yet but i think when i reconnect with some of my friends, that's what i kind of hit me i mean, you you were there, you were sitting next to the alleged shooter right before this. All happened, moments before it happened? when you and he were sitting next to each other, i guess. I guess you sort of call it you elbow partner as you were kind of elbow to elbow at your at your desks how did he seem to you? nothing to off he was just another quiet kid that didn't really speak too much and i know you've been in here for a few weeks. Has you've been sitting next to him all the way through. Did anything anything different today about him? no he wasn't here when i first one school for started. I think he transferred in but nothing really seemed to trough about him. Then this morning, he leaves your classroom and i know initially leyla, you thought maybe he need to go to the bathroom, but he didn't actually take the bathroom pass, so then what happened he was gone for a little while. Not unusual. He usually skips class, but a little bit later in minister came walking into find him and at that 0. 1 of my other friends was also in the bathroom when he was actually in the bathroom. And he came in looking for them and they said the wrong name. They said my friend's name because they have similar names. But they asked if his bag was there. They said yes and i gave him my friends bag a little bit later. My friend came back in from the bathroom with his bag and i had asked him what happened and he said he didn't know anything and so class just continue like normal. And then a little bit later, my teachers teaching she gets a call on the intercom that she's a checker email. So she goes to check it and then she comes back and she's gotten backandforth valuable, but he's still not in the classroom and soon he comes back to the door would end. I see him the window and he tries to come in, but the students like because all the doors are automatically locked, so you have to be let into classrooms yeah. But he tried to khamenei, but when he comes back, they will door, you actually saw his face? yes, i saw it through the window. Yes. And did it did anything strike you in that moment of oh, my goodness, something is horribly wrong or did he look normal? no, he looked normal so then what happened? he looks normal. Someone goes to open the door someone else to open it, and then they back away and they don't open it and then you see him turn to what was my right at the time. And then you just hear shots and those shots, leyla so we understand stand. That's the classroom essentially next to yours. That was the door was open for some reason yes. I think that was open and then what did you hear a lot of shots kind of back to back and then you hear you're like the people next door throughout it. You kind of heard them moving things inside the room, whether it was desks or other things like that but you hear them but moving, yelling, things like that ensures what were you even thinking in that moment leyla, when you hear the shots and it could have been your classroom and you hear people i'm trying to stay alive in the room next door we it didn't feel real like just it wasn't necessarily something was horribly wrong, like i didn't cry it and freak out. I stayed pretty calm. I was i was shaking a little bit, but i never i never cry and i never like panic because it just nothing felt like real in that moment i know you had like normal in a way. They know, as you said, you're going to have time with your friends and think about to realize what happened you did have a friend in that classroom where people were shot. And i know you've had a chance to speak with him what did he tell you? he saw in that classroom he didn't speak much. I didn't try and push him or ask him anything. I just comforted him, letting him know that i was there asked if he had talked to his sister, his brother, and i walked with him and i stayed with him until he found his brother and then i went to look for my friends but i i didn't want to talk to him about it. Are ask him about it too much. Just because he just seemed really shaken up obviously, it was a school resource officer who stopped him. I know people you you see every single day when you go to school do you know those sros? well, the school resource officers know. I don't know that i know you're in your classroom and all this is happening i leyla, did you do hear any of the exchange when that confrontation happened and they were able to stop him and obviously save what could have been so many lives i heard yelling. I'm not sure exactly if they stopped him on my hallway or if he was more throughout the school or where they stopped him but i did hear like the cops or officers yelling in the hallways in live. I know you mentioned that he may have transferred in recently that he wasn't there at the beginning of the year and i know you guys have been back for pretty much a month, so you're well into school at this point, but you mentioned something in a moment ago. You said that he would often skip school is there anything else that you think? it's important for people to know about him just from your observations over these past week sitting next to him not really. I mean, he was he never talked. It's like i didn't know him very well. He never released spoke i couldn't tell you what his voice sounded like. Or really even describe his face to you he was just there i know that you're going to a vigil now, leyla with your friends how are you all going to manage this? just even tonight in these next hours? i think talking about what each of us went through piecing together the story is trying to figure out exactly what happened then just being there and comforting each other when he left to go to the bathroom, did you did he take anything with him that there could have had a gun in it or does it seem from what you observed that he would have had to get the gun from outside the classroom i don't think he got the gun from inside the classroom. I think he had it on him i never first saw him. I don't remember what don't remember seeing him leave, but i don't think his bag was in the classroom at the time of the shooting. So i think when he did leave, he took it with him you think? somehow like under his shirt or something on his body while they live very much appreciate it. We all do. Thank you so much for talking. To us and sharing with us what you know. I know it's got to be unbelievably hard, so thank you of course alright. As we continue to get more information on that, if we are anything from law enforcement, we're going to bring that to you next. We do have some new poll information coming out and it's from a whole lot of places. It shows kamala harris with a lot of momentum in kyiv he swing swingstate. There are also though warning assigned warning signs ahead for her. What exactly are they? john king going to do a deep dive for us tonight at his magic wall. Plus our kfile scouring through years of harris's comments and tweets on an issue that is not going away and what they found it is coming back now to haunt kamala harris is important to know. You'll see that exclusive report here first outfront, the trump playbook of 20 2016. Sounds a lot like the trump playbook of 2024 she's raising your taxes really high. 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Right now and see how much you can save. I'm katie bo lillis in washington. And this is cnn tonight. Harris's momentum, a new cnn poll showing harris picking up support and some very important states swing states. Let's just show you what we're looking at. Harris is ahead of trump in the key blue wall states of michigan and wisconsin in arizona, though, trump is in the lead, georgia and nevada are both within the margin of error, although harris is technically up a point in h in pennsylvania that is a dead heat right now. And we're gonna have a lot more on all of these numbers with john king in just a moment, a deep dive on them at the wall you know, it comes though as vice president kamala harris is now trying to talk more about policy and to define herself as different than biden for the first time announcing some differences from the president on taxes in new hampshire today, harris announcing she would tax investment income at a lower rate than president biden has proposed. If you earn $1 million a year or more, the tax rate on your long longterm capital gains will be 28% under my plan, because we know when the government encourages investment, it leads to broadbased economic growth and it creates jobs which makes our economy stronger to be clear, she would increase access by a lot less than biden on capital gains, but still increased them more from where they are now former president trump firing off nearly a dozen online videos around the time that harris was speaking about her economic policies after the other he was talking about the border communism crime biden, and also the economy trump cash versus kamala crash we're going to have a crash like 1929, if she gets in it will not be pretty that line of attack actually is reminiscent. In fact, almost identical to what trump was warning about the last time around if biden wins, and you're going to have a stock market crash, the equivalent of 1928 and 1929 of course, that has not happened, despite trump's prediction it is clear though, that both of sides know that the economy is key in the election, right? it is the focus of for voters more than anything else. So john king now at the magic wall as promised so john, as you look at it right now with all the latest polling data, all that you've got where are, what are the paths right now to 270 tonight? erin strap in our new polling shows yet some harris momentum, but the big headline is, this is a very, very, very, very, i could add a few more very close races. Let's just look at the data. What does this is where we are right now. The yellow states who are tossup states, they include north carolina, we did not pull in north carolina this time i'm going to lean it read democrats would get mad at me, but i'm going to lean that one red until i see data that prove otherwise because it has gone red in every election since 2008 when obama won, it was republican before that. Here's our new polling, harris ahead in wisconsin outside the margin, harris ahead in michigan just outside the margin. That gets her to 250, right? donald trump ahead in arizona, outside the margin that let me make that red, that would move him up to 246 pretty close, right. And then you mentioned these other states are too close to call pennsylvania a genuine ty let's just say harris is exact is really plus one in georgia and plus one in nevada. This is just one poll. This is a hypothetical here that alone though, if she could held that, we're getting to 272 and she could win the presidency without pennsylvania. But again, she's plus one in the polling. It's just as plausible and we've seen other data that donald trump could win georgia and donald trump could win nevada as well. That would get him to 268. So what happens then? you're looking at pennsylvania, right? let's assume harris exit out. It's a tie right now. If trump won, he'd be present united states if harris wanted, under this scenario, again, it's a scenario that gets you to 269 to 68, and it all comes down to nebraska's second congressional district, either a tie or it puts harris over the top at to 70. I'm not saying that's going to happen. What i'm saying is if you look at this data, here's where we start today. Those polls tell us, erin, look, we are eight weeks and six days away from counting votes. It's competitive to 69 to 68 that's a nightmare scenario, i think for so many in this country, no matter which side of the political spectrum you may beyond but you know, john, what i was just mentioning, right before you came on talking about the economy which both harris and trump are focused on today. It is the number one issue and trump's still has at least from the polling, you're looking at, he still has the edge there, right? this is trump's biggest advantage, which is why he wants to hold it and why you see the vice president out doing economic speeches. Her ads are also tilting now heavily toward the economy in arizona, trump's up five overall voters view him is the better candidate by 15 points on the economy in georgia where harris is the tide, maybe plus one, trump has a slight advance, so you can see the trend here in places where harris is competitive or ahead trump's numbers are lower. Nevada is the outlier. It got thrown, its economy got thrown in the trash during covid. But the key for harris is to bring this trump advantage down, where she's winning in wisconsin, she's up six in the state, trump only plus two on the economy. This is her biggest challenge. Let's try. If she can't catch trump on the economy, at least make him plus two or plus four plus 816 or more. The economy right now is trump's biggest advantage by far. All right? when you go down, deepen the polling today, there were some warning signs for harrison specific vulnerability with key voting groups. What are they? so let's look first the gender gap gets talked about a lot let's look at women voters. If you look at these numbers, harris is essentially tracking biden a little better in some places, she would probably like to improve these numbers, but when it comes to women, look at harris now and biden 2020, and they're relatively good right there. She would like to improve them, obviously, because she's struggling. One reason you want to improve is because she is struck probably a bit among men voters, male voters, especially when you look out in the western states in 2020, trump won them by two points in arizona, he's up 14 in 20 2012 and ten. That's about the same. But if you look at nevada at plus 18 plus five, so this is a problem for the vice president, without a doubt, she needs to try to improve her standing among male voters. And again, you can trace a lot of that back to the economy. And people just don't know a lot about or here's one other thing quickly i want to show you though, hispanic voters are critical in both arizona and nevada, and look at this biden won by 24 points. Harris only by six in arizona right now, biden won in nevada by 26 harris by 20 smaller subset of voters here. So the margin of error is a little higher. So this might not be as bad as is. It looks, but it's still bad. And one of the places the vice president has to do some improvement among men, among latinos, most of all, that would help itself on the economy. And what about independents and moderates? so this is fascinating to me and this just raises the stakes for the debate outside the chart here. Watch this when you bring it up, independents and moderates this, this is into just independent voters, but the frontlines are similar with moderates look at how trump is now winning in arizona, in georgia, in michigan, among independents, right? biden won all of these battleground states among independents back in 2020, this is an area of the vice president needs to improve her standing. Voters in the middle, these are people who selfidentify as independents. You see very similar numbers among people who selfidentify as moderate she's struggling in the middle. She is viewed as more liberal than moderate. Joe biden. And so she's struggling a bit in the middle, but here's the opportunity. A lot of people don't know a lot about the vice president, which is why she's out there giving these speeches, right? look at this. The percentage of voters in each of these battleground states who say they might change their mind. It's in the teens, 11% in georgia tends to be in the low to teens. And all these that a battleground states, but look at the independents 24%, 23%, 27%, 2029 they are open to changing their mind. If kamala harris can prove herself on the economy and on leadership, these are the independent numbers they're very similar among moderates. We don't talk much more about in this polarized climate, about the middle of the electorate, there is room for her to grow in the middle if she makes her case? yes. When you look at an arm's of 268 to 69 at the end of the day, right? any tiny margin of these groups matters so much. All right, absolute, john. Thank you so much for all of that. So let's go now to scott jennings, kate bedingfield kate harris is up in wisconsin and michigan. Let's just start with that. Jon started these are massive turnarounds over the past weeks from biden and now outside the margin of error, do you feel great about this i feel good. I feel encouraged. I wouldn't say i feel great because i think the totality of the numbers show that this is still and it's going to be an incredibly, incredibly close race. We just heard john go through it. I think what the numbers today show what is that kamala harris has more pathways, more conceivable pathways to 270 than trump does, or at least then trump felt like he did six weeks ago when joe biden's at the top of the ticket, i think there's no question his path has narrowed, so i think these numbers should give democrats, they should be heartened. I think it's showing that she continues to build strength in the coalition that she needs to win. And as john was just saying that she has room to grow trump, i think probably has a little bit less room to grow in part because he is so welldefined so i think it is encouraging. I don't think by any stretch that democrats should view this as a slam dunk though there is a long way to go in this race and it's clearly very, very close. I mean, it's got, you'd obviously few weeks ago, pretty much all those swing states trump thought he had it locked up. He was second about new hampshire, right so it is it is a small solace to say, oh, well, she's only up 1% in georgia, we can still do. I mean, it's still going to be pretty grim to look at these for trump's team, isn't it? i don't know. I mean, he was underestimated badly in several of these states, but a lot of polling in 2016 and 2020 including in some cnn polling, i might add, i agree with kate, i think it's an incredibly close race. Either of these candidates could win any of these states. We're talking about. And i also agree with john that the ticket to victory for the middle and for some of these male voters that they're competing for is really to talk about the economy i had to chuckle a little bit today listening to her talk about her tax policy. I mean, she is like see joe biden's tax policy is only going to kill you as much as, you jason voorhees, but i'm more like mike myers, he is at that better. No, it's not better. They're both scary as hell. And either way, you're going to be dead think she's going to have to come up with something a little better than i'm going to raise your taxes a little less than joe biden as if she wants to do the caption here on the capitol was on the main tax policy. They're at least as of now, has been no difference between the two let me just ask you though, one thing that john mentioned there when we're talking about these different voting groups. And scott just brought up but i want to ask about independents and moderates. Those independents that he was looking at in swing states 25 to 30 30% of them are open to changing their mind at this point all alright, is this is this something that worries you or is this something that actually makes you feel good? because you are supporting the candidate about whom people no less well, i think it's certainly shows that she has more room to grow. And so i think that as xi is continuing to define herself out on the campaign trail, also, we've now passed labor day, so you have voters really starting to tune in in a way that, you know, historically they don't pre labor day. So this is really a moment for her to make her case, and she also has donald trump out. There are opponent continuing to try to throw everything at the wall against her to see what sticks he's not really making a coherent and cohesive argument against her, and he's continuing to use some of these same tired, ugly, personal attacks, which we know that moderate and independent voters are tired of. They rejected it in 2020, and we've seen in all so the polling since this race started to come together about a year ago when it was going to be trump versus biden we saw that people said we don't want this rematch. We don't want more of this. You're getting more of the same from trump during something new and different from kamala harris that they're excited about this change in their minds are at the point that one point that kate just raised was so the way trump talks. Alright, so if they're going to listen to what's going on, i'm going to watch this debate. They're going to listen to interviews. He does. The questions got his are they going to take into account and do they care when he comes out says personally pejorative things like he often does today on a radio show in new hampshire, he's talking about how harris ended up on the democratic ticket. And here's what he said. They didn't want her, but they were politically correct. They wanted to be politically correct as so many people do nowadays and they chose somebody that they didn't want. We can go another four years with a dumb president it's got that, that's what i want to ask you about. Calling or dumb, just coming out and doing that. Are you worried about what independents and moderates will do when they are confronted with sound bites like that. Or if that is the kind of stuff that we get a whole lot of next week at the debate yeah, i don't think it would be wise to do that at the debate and yes, of course, there'll be some voters turned off by that. On the other hand, trump has some appeal and some need to talk to politically disengaged. People who are probably not all that offended by crass blunt talk like that and you're trying to draw them in, trying to make memeable content, trying to get them to consume this short soundbites. As we know, there are a bunch of voters in this country or maybe nonvoters who he wants to make voters they might pick up on something like this. So i think there's a method to the madness, but you do, when you squeeze the balloon on one end, it pops on the other. And so there is a tradeoff. So some will not like it. There may be a cohort out there that like the blunt talk and that's what he's betting on. Well, we'll see with something this close, every single vote matters in a way, perhaps it's never has before. Alright, thanks very much to both of you, kate and scott. And next the breaking news from abc, they are giving out the details here on the debate revealing tonight which candidate will get first pick on podium placement, who will get the last word? this is now all i've been decided. 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Abc news just announcing that trump won the virtual well coin toss, which allows him to decide that he'll get the last word in closing statements microphones for each candidate will be muted when they are not speaking, which is something the harris campaign had fought. There will be no audience this is the first time harris and trump will be facetoface in the same room together. Of course, for some know audience, obviously was biden and trump james carville and paul begala together once again here outfront they are of course, the brains behind the winning 1992 clintongore campaign. And they are here, we're reunited. James trump's going to get the last word in this debate. Abc is saying, is microphone will be muted when he's not answering a question which his team was very happy with, the harris camp pain had fought. Are you worried that these things either of them are going to be setbacks for harris in the debate not at all. I fully expect the vice president and dragged them out across the debate platform i fully expect her to do very well. I think she's very well prepared. I think kids w. H. O active stale and is going to be exposed. And this debate, i'm very optimistic and i'm not supposed to say that i might have to eat my words, but i don't think i'm going to. So paul, to this point of stale or stick with a good thing when you've got a good thing, okay. That line, donald trump's lines of attack in presidential debates have not changed over the past eight years, not very much right? here. We've got a few examples versus hillary clinton and joe biden she's raising your taxes really high. He wants to raise your taxes by four times. She wants open borders. He wants open borders. She's done a test critical job for the african americans, just did a horrible job for black people. She never gets anything done, but isn't doing anything i'm that's pretty incredible. I mean, you know, we look for word repeats in his business. Paul's not always that easy. So does that same playbook work against harris? now no way, not when 75% of the american people want change if 75% think we're moving in the wrong direction, this is why joe biden was so stuck, right? but kamala harris has broken free of the incumbency because she's changed in carnot and it all she has to do. James is exactly right. It's turned to trump and say, you know, that's all you got, the same old stale is like a carton of milk that you left out in the sun for eight years you know, it's stale and it stinks and nobody wants it james, you know what, when you come to people want change and obviously i her stand the change that kamala harris in so many ways just embodies by her existence, right? and who she is. But on policy she'd be the vice president for threeandahalf years. How do you make a change argument there or does it even matter? i mean, today we were we were highlighting that she was going to raise capital gains taxes by slightly less than joe biden was going to raise capital gains taxes as if that was some sort of a massive break and tax policy, right this isn't about that, is it well, first of all, people understand the vice president doesn't sent policy, but that's all right. She's got many things you can point to. By way, she's talking about small business tax breaks, trump's talking about keeping tax cut for people. I will forward for thousand dollars. Who do you think needs a break in this country? small businesses, a billionaire. I mean, it's a very, very simple thing that she's got to do. Trump represents the past. He still he's to politics or yesterday she's got to portray herself. I think she will be in fresh and i think she can do that. I don't think it's that hard against trump. It might be hard against somebody else, but do you got look at who you can run again? so paul on the stage, obviously there's going to be harrison trump, but, you know, hovering in the background is what you get with that ticket. And meanwhile, trump's supporters have been fawning over trump's running mate, j. D. Vance, despite polls showing that he was that he's vastly unpopular with a lot of key voters that trump would need to bring in as new voters, right and harris, his team obviously is labeled and weird, you know, all the branding that's been going on. Here's an exchange i wanted to play for you that he had last night on fox news how do you go to the undecideds at this point, there's shrinking pool of people and in convince them that not only are you serious and your seriously smart but you're a regular person. I've known you for a long time. It really funny, really funny versus the giggle and vibe show that seems to work for a lot of women voters out there you know, laura, my approach to this is just to get out there and meet as many people as possible okay. So laura ingraham saying, i've known you a really long time. You're really, really fun and funny she's trying to make the argument for him there. You and james been on the show saying that trump could ditch vance eventually as his running mate, is. Do you still think that could happen at this point you get in late, you're only 16 days before early voting in virginia, minnesota, ballots are being printed, so trump may be had passed his, his useful date when he can do it. But i wonder if when laura said he was funny, she meant not funny. Haha, but funny, strange anybody could look at that clip of him trying to order donuts, go get can even order a donut. I mean, he is the most unpopular running mate in modern times. I think much worse than governor palin of alaska in 2008 he's just people just don't like him. It's like the old joke. What he asked somebody, why does it really takes such an instant dislike to me and answers jd, it saves time jim names and you know erin biden, i mean, trump got a bounce out of j. D. Vance has called a dead cat bounce. Okay. That's exactly what he got. He's got this turkey strapped around his neck and there's going to they're going to choke him with it. I promise you. I promise you that we'll go see a debate. I still and by my prediction that the vice president's going to do quite well and people are watch and pay attention because you had a train wreck on june the 27th, so they've stimulated to watch this debate. I think the number is going to be really high compared to other debates. All right, well, we shall see knew you wanted to get in there. I guess it might have been about a cat very quickly the most important way that kamala harris can break with joe biden all through the debate don't be 81yearsold. Okay. People were done with biden, not because he is too liberal or too conservative to anything. They just thought he was too old and she's not she's changing carnot. Well, if that's the standard, all she's got to do is show up alright, thanks. You, both. I appreciate it all right. And that is next tuesday. Don't miss the abc news presidential debate simulcast tuesday at nine eastern. We'll have it here on cnn as well. Also with our coverage and exclusive analysis, both before and after that crucial debate. Meantime, next, our kfile has gone through years of kamala harris is tweet it's in records. And what they have found our comments that could come back to haunt her now plus, we'll take you inside ukraine's socalled kill house dry, tired, he burning my dry eye symptoms got worse over overtime. 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This is cnn tonight, k file investigates in a new report, you'll see first outfront, the k file team scoured kamala harris is tweets and statements going all the way back to 2017 and what they found was more than 50 instances of harris slamming trump's border wall but now new harris campaign ads actually showcase that very wall as a border state prosecutor, she took on drug cartels and jailed gang members for smuggling weapons and drugs across the border and on top of critical tweets, harris also wrote her 2019 book quote, there was a bigger reason to oppose the border wall, a useless wall on the southern border would be nothing more than a symbol, a monument standing in opposition to not just everything i value, but to the fundamental values upon which this country was built. How could i vote to build what would be a little more than a monument designed to send the cold hard message. Keep out. Well, kfile's andrew kaczynski joins me now. So endrew mean, you and you all have gone through i mean scoured an incredible amount of material. Tell me more about what you found. Yeah, that's right. We found more than 50 of those those tweets criticizing the border while before she use that in her ad. And i want people to take a look at just a few of what she said here. If she called it wasteful, useless, a waste of taxpayer money or vanity wall project, a wasteful border wall, a stupid wall, a medieval vanity project, and an unnecessary wall. And those are really just mean there were more of this, just like ten or 50 but there was really there was really a lot of this was the common refrain during the campaign. You read that quote where she said it was against everything that not only the she stood for everything. America stood aboard been she brought this up a lot. Take a listen to just one instance of that in 2019 it's the president's vanity project his multibilliondollar vanity project called a wall, is nothing more than a distraction from the fact that he actually hasn't focused on working people in america he contrived national crisis around his big distraction right? so you go through all of that, you've got all the tweets and yet all of a sudden any ads, there's pictures of the wall and then you went through to look at that wall like, what is that specific wall? that's in her campaign ads now and you found something very interesting about this specific portion of and what's i think what's also really remarkable. This is like, i mean, you heard her talking about it there though, trump's wall in his campaign during his presidency, there was really no greater symbol of trump's presidency than the wall in the way that democrats were attacking him over the wall and his restrictive immigration policies. So we looked in that ad and if you look at it, that exact area of wall isn't so sabi or sosebee, arizona. And that is a portion of wall that was actually built by donald trump. It was built in an area where there was not previous wall is actually pretty controversial when they were building it at the time. So just to see that there are other ways using his wall that he built to say, look at what i did and the other images of the wall. We weren't able to pinpoint, but there's there's telltale signs that that was a trump wall because there's an anticlimbing plate on top that became popular allies during the trump years it's really incredible reporting and important. Alright, andrew kaczynski and kfile. Thank you very much and next, ukraine upping the ante tonight, tests thing out. A new weapon. 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That's what the ukrainian military is calling their secret operation and our fred pleitgen, who got incredible access to the kill house is outfront tonight elite soldiers from ukraine's third assault brigade get out of their armored vehicle and right into a man as of firefight one of the soldiers is wounded. The other scream for a tourniquet but the unit keeps moving while ukraine's army has been losing ground in many areas in this part of the kharkiv region. They've turned the tide later, taking several russian dugouts, the deputy commander says it seeing happening what the enemy has no results. He says, moreover, we have positive results. We've pushed the enemy back and captured a battalion line of enemy defense third assault brigade says, they'll keep pushing forward ukraine remains badly outmanned by the russians at a third assault brigade wants ever more combat drones to be their great equalizer. This is their drone school. They call the kill house drone technology is developing extremely fast on the battlefields in ukraine. And the third assault brigade believes in the future, they will need even more drone pilots, so they're training as many as possible as fast as possible to get them combat ready they've already trained more than 1,500 perspective drone aviators here, not just to fly the fpv drones effectively, but to use them as lethal weapons capable of destroying even tanks and armored vehicles. I'm loyal shafik gymnast, the greatest effectiveness of a pilot is here is or hurt desire the school's boss tells me, or if bibi a lot of input pv pilots are people of a special mindset. They know how to hit the target, what ammunition to use? the ammo is becoming more lethal as well at different ukrainian unit. Now, acknowledging they're using a trial version of a fire spewing drone that drops an incendiary substance on russian positions but the russians keep hitting ukraine with much bigger munitions missile strikes killing several people in lviv in western ukraine overnight, search and rescue crews are recovering the bodies four hours on suddenly kyiv's leadership has vowed revenge for russia's aerial attacks again ukrainian cities are driving factor also for the soldiers attacking russian positions on the north eastern front from pleitgen, cnn, kyiv