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Still getting towards faults, darker in the morning. Good morning, everyone. Im kasie hunt. Its wonderful to have you with us on this tuesday morning. Will they or wont say new questions about the Schedule Debate between Kamala Harris and donald trump. After the former president said this abc debate when you watch this weekend and its the worst of all networks. But when i looked at the hostility of that, i said, why am i doing it . Lets do it with but the network i want to do it. I think abc is really should be shut out. Id much rather do it. On nbc scheduled for just two weeks from today. That debate could be voters only chance to see and hear the candidates face off in person. And even if the debate does go ahead, just what the voters can hear is the sticky important right now what would you want the microphone muted and the debate whenever youre not speaking, we agreed to the same rules. I dont know. Doesnt matter to me. Id rather have it probably on, but the agreement was that it would be the same as it was last time that case. It was needed i didnt like it the last time, but it worked out fine ask biden now id worked out or was fine. And i think it should be the same thats biden now worked out trump. Theyre also saying it doesnt matter to me if the microphones are muted when it is not candidates turn to speak, that of course was how it was at the cnn debate in june. What he said there, what trump said there might have been news to his own Campaign Just one day earlier or Trump Campaign adviser jason miller told politico, quote, we accepted the abc debate under the the exact same terms as the cnn debate. And we said no changes to the agreed upon rules. The Harris Campaign seizing on trumps comments to say that now they think the matter has been settled i think what you have is both candidates themselves who agree on the debate format, right . We have both candidates who now agree that we should have a fullthroated debate with live microphones for the duration that fully allows for both candidates to clearly articulate their visions for where they want to take this country. I think well see whether not donald trump allows his handlers to overrule his decision that he made today allow his handlers to overrule his decision. The fight over the microphones is on center stage because both campaigns think that the dynamic is really important in terms of creating breakthrough moments. Personally, males, not thousand. Well, we turned over 35,000. So what about the other please allow her to respond. She didnt talk while he talked yes, thats true. I didnt that is absolutely not true. That only cutting is he only going to repeal part of the trump tax cuts if you dont mind letting me finish, we can have a conversation. Okay. Please. Okay 18, 61 could answer the Question Vice Presidency Making is speaking okay okay. Joining us now to discuss mark preston, cnn senior political analyst, brad todd, republican strategist, a partner at the political strategy for him on message. And let me show cross democratic strategist, former Communications Advisor for barak obama. Welcome to all of you. Thank you so much for being here. Mark preston, our friend of the show, stephen collins. And then writes this about, and this is why, i mean, look, this is were down in the weeds on the rules of the debate, right . But theres a reason we are talking about it because the images that could come out of this debate could define the fall at race, this incredibly compressed timeline, collinson writes this way, an open mic would test the republican nominee is self its a pleasure in a debate with harris at a time when gop strategists are pleading with him to stick to policy quit his smashmouth politics for the good of his campaign. Visuals of trump talking over and openly disrespecting the woman who has a chance to be the first black woman president would speak for themselves. He also says harris would have a chance to demonstrate the strength and standing up to trump by Reprisal Zeng her famous repost, which we just watched in that debate with mike pence, where do you see all this going . But seems like steven spoke to Brad Todd Last Night when he was writing all of that is absolutely true. I mean, i mean right now, i mean, the debate over the debates was really an internal Washington Dc debate when it becomes really an issue for them American People is if the Harris Campaign is able to effectively cast donald trump is somebody whos afraid to take her on. But everything that they just said that stephen wrote in his peace in his analysis is absolutely true. Its about image to have a man, let alone donald trump trying to speak over another candidate we just saw the clips. They werent a pretty there were funny but they werent very brad, what do you think about how they should be handling this . Well, i think first off, Kamala Harris should be very comfortable with the muted mike ron de 34 with her not doing any interview with major journalist. Mike has been muted for a month. So she should be happy to have it muted after the questions in the debate you know, i always hes think that when youre the candidate trying to change the rules of the debate, then perhaps youre worried about how youre going to do in the debate. And thats how this looks to me with Kamala Harris, me show you wanna push back on that because shes needling him because she can Kamala Harris has the wind at her back. She has out outsized one racing. She has been able to amass with it they very short amount of time historic levels of on the Ground Outreach were talking a Campaign Like none other. Weve seen in american history. Its quite often compared to the 2008 obama campaign, but obamas campaign did not do this in record speed. Thats what were seeing here in addition to that, she is on the ground where it matters. Shes still has to introduce herself to millions of people well across this country, she is doing that. We know that many of those people arent watching traditional news. That just is what it is. The numbers bear that issue should, should walk away from the debate if they wont, maybe its not walking away from the base that she wants shes already said shes not walking away. She will be at that debate even if trump is not there. And just have the conversation with abc news what she is doing is needling someone who has trial id since the top of the ticket change for the democrats to get out of this debate, i was at the National Association of black journalists conference. He purposely verbally assaulted and abc News Reporter there because he did not want to do this debate. Hes been setting this up for weeks now. He does not want to debate her in general, well wait. Hold on. I mean, brad do you see the world where not debating is good for donald trump . I mean, is that, i mean, if he is a little bit on his backfoot, it seems like a debate is something that might be able to change things for them. I think most people in the news media cant get to Kamala Harris to ask her hard question. So it may take a debate for her to have a hard question, so no, i think he needs to debate. Yeah. I mean okay. Thats fair enough. And we can we can dig into that. I wanted i do want to dig into the interview in questioned a second, but mark preston, do you see a world where this debate does not go forward and do it because it does seem to me that it is probably in both their interest to have it happen regardless of this fight over the rules, you know, i know this sounds crazy, but in a convoluted way before september 11, you know, i after september 11, i should say. Nothing surprises me anymore and i really do mean that look, the odds of this debate not happening are very, very low. The odds of it happening are very, very high. But in this political world, we live in right now. I mean things are not normal necessarily and we cant follow, the same script that weve fallen over the years if youre harris, would you go ahead and do this debate without this rule change of course, because because she cant look like shes shes backing up, but it will be interesting to donald trump doesnt show up at the abc debate, does she still go on abc . Does abc still give her that time . And if thats the case, then that becomes another issue and that becomes another big story. The campaign has already said that shes going to do it, whether he shows up or not, thats not in contention whether she wants to do it away. Maybe seas already in whole because the way they the way they glossing over her Policy Changes or alleged Policy Changes, i think abcs on the hook here as well interesting. Okay. Lets talk for a second about the interview question, because yesterday we also learned that advisers youre said shes going to Kamala Harris is going to schedule an interview before the end of the month she has started to get some pressure from fellow democrats including congresswoman Debbie Dingell and others who say that, hey, she is actually going to have to answer some more questions. Lets watch well i think sometimes you all overexaggerate what the importance of it. She knows what shes going to have to do. Shes going to have to spell out her provision and talk about policies more from reproductive rights to lowering costs. Shes been very specific and as this Campaign Goes on, shell be sitting for more interviews. Shell be engaging in debates. The truth is that shes answered questions along the way. Youve seen her do that when shes getting on and off of air force two, does she need to sit down for an interview . Course and theyve said theyll do that musha have they let this go on a little too long because its now become the situation where the stories about whether shes going to do an interview. I mean, i realized that there are countervailing strategies often in terms of when you sit a candidate down with the news media, sometimes it can be counterproductive ahead of a convention for example. But on the other hand, if you let it go on too long, it can get out of your control. I think youre right. And thats also why her campaign has said that its going to happen before the end of next but i think that thats very important. Be mindful at the dnc just ended last week. She was just became the official nominee on friday on top of that, we also saw that with the roll call, which was just a few days prior, the Virtual World call, that vote came through. This is something where weve had Kamala Harris atop the ticket officially, four just a few days. So this is not this is a very historic campaign, a very truncated campaign, but the pressure for her was to actually get out and talk to the voters. Shes been doing that. She had to build that capacity. She also just chose her vicepresident ial her Vice President as a running mate shes not heard were talking about the Vice President united states. Shed been preparing to be president for legend good leave a lot of interviews by solar. So how the for she should have been able to do an interview on the first day. Why not . Its not a question of ability. It is one of Campaign Measure know its how much she needs to she doesnt want to answer for the fact that she was against fracking. Shes against private insurance in way he was cars and she doesnt want to lets push pause because mark, i will say that she this has been something that people behind the scenes will acknowledge is something that is not her top strength. These unscripted moments where shes under pressure from interviewers if it was the her strongest if it was her strongest move, they would have played it already or they would have played it no question. Look, i hate to play the middle here, but theyre both right. I mean, musha and brad, youre both right in the sense that right now they dont have to do the interview. There isnt enough public pressure for them to do it, but we are seeing these interviews start to pop up more and more and then the question arises, public pressure Harris Building for the interview. But i think it is, but remember this the first week back to school for a lot of schools, a certainly in the northeast where, kids are just back in the south right now. But people are finishing their vacation. Shes she is able to enjoy the cover of summer right now. She is shot off onethird of this campaign and members of the news media have led her shes not, shes not answering questions about we know her position. She is against fracking. Shes against private health insurance. Shes against gasoline cars. Thats what she told us when she ran for president last time she doesnt want to talk about those positions. Thats why she is stoic as she should do an interview. Im just politically saying, brad, you have to note that it hasnt been that bad. You so what thats coming up in pr somewhere like that, but shes not going to say on a network and shes going to have a sit down conversation. She has already said her campaign has already said, but thats going to happen if youre waiting for months, just waiting it so much, shes actually on the ground. Shes doing bus tours across the state of georgia. She is talking to them last years decision. Were going to were going to have to take a break. Im sorry to cut you off, but i do i dont think that Doing Softball Interviews is going to put this to rest. I understand the point that youre making, but i think the decision that im looking for from the harris team is who are they choosing to sit down with . And is that going to be something where you come away feeling like she took the hard questions or if this snowball continues, alright, coming up here on cnn this morning, another former trump staffer turning against him as more than 200 republicans for their support behind harris plus Department Of Justice is hoping to revive their classified documents case against trump will dig into that. 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Trump Administration Officials who say that they would not be part of a second trump term mcmasters comments come as more than 200 former bush, mccain and romney staffers endorse harris in a new Letter Writing that they quote, came together to warn fellow republicans that reelecting President Trump would be a disaster for our nation. Some prominent republicans making the same case at the Democratic National Convention Last week the Republican Party is no longer conservative. These days, our party acts more like a cold, a cold war shipping, a felony, thug he has no empathy, no morals and no fidelity to the truth you my fellow republicans you arent voting for a democrat youre voting for democracy all right, or panels back brad todd kind of like to get your take on this because obviously theres a lot of layers that a lot of different stories in those soundbites, the people that spoke im at the Democratic National convention, but to people in particular, i want to focus in on which is hr mcmaster, what he told anderson and also a person like geoff duncan, who is it legitimately like he is conservative he sir, what they have to say here as you and i understand youre running republican campaigns across the country. Donald trump is at the top of that. They get i mean, what do you say to these folks well, lets break it down a little further, and general mcmaster, who everybody has a great deal of respect for. Hes not in not 200 person list that you saw on the letter today . The first name on that letter today was a finance intern. So lets not get carried away with exactly how broad this, this list isnt there more than more other others on the list who are of the same category. So not quite generally, some more senior people who worked for mccain and romney and others well, in Washington Dc is always going to be fashionable to move from right to left. Always its always good for your career to do that. And so some of thats going on as well. Are there new input place of employment . This is more suitable to what theyre doing. But look, its a free country. What else happened last week is rfk endorsed donald trump. He tried to run the democratic primaries. They locked them out. So the counter to that is the query counter program. This in campaigns is and you try to find other people who you can share so have swapped sides. And thats really mostly what this lets take a look at brad, at members well, its this one person whose remember the military others whove worked in the Defense Establishment and very high level roles at talking about whether or not donald trump is fit from a National Security perspective to be president when swatch we dont take an oath to a king or queen. What a tyrant or a dictator. And we dont take an oath to a wannabe dictator. We dont take an oath to an individual we take an oath to the constitution. I think hes unfit for office. Oh, look, its, he puts himself before country his actions are all about him and not about not about the country. I think hes dangerous enough. He shouldnt get a second term i mean what do you say to those folks who worked for i mean, were serving on our mask here with john bolton on virtually every policy issue you can come up with. So they put me in a tough spot on i think i dont general millie and former President Trump have a long running personal animus . I dont know if its appropriate for him to be criticizing any commander in chief, former, or future while hes in uniform, if he wants to do that, he had to step out a uniform, become private citizen again but i think there are differences between donald trump and some of the guys. These are the, these folks have worked before, worked with before, and you go into the administration knowing that difference and theres somewhat of an obligation when you do take the job to defend the boss and then when you can have your differences when you leave, but you keep it, you have to do it while worked for the team, while youre in the team, i think thats an expectation president s ought to have. Its one that donald trump hasnt always gotten. And you can argue whether hes deserved it or not. Get times, but i think there is somewhat of an obligation when you take the job ministration, let me ask you. You worked on a lot of downballot races is trying to get republicans elected. Does this kind of criticism . Does it resonate as it matter in those types of races no. No, because i think donald trump is very welldefined. Voters get what they like about him and what they dislike about him. And the main thing they like about him is that he fights and that he fights against the far left and they see the left and the Democratic Party day is way too far left. They know is downsides. This is, weve never had an elected official or candidate for office whos been so welldefined for whom americans have conflicted emotions. And yet you know what this is a tie race. Its a tyrus and i think we have to talk about what that says about where the democrats are. 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A slight risk of large hail damaging winds cant rule out a tornado as well. This is what happens with the atmosphere gets too hot, right . We have Heat Warnings and Heat Advisories in effect for over 75 million americans stretching from the east coast through parts of the midwest, including chicago. Itll feel like 109 today if you step outside factor in the humidity grand rapids, my hometown also feeling the heat today, but this is dangerous heat. You need to do the precautions that we talk about this time of year, because this is just downright dangerous kasie. All right. Good to now. Derek van dam for us this morning. Derek, always grateful for you. Thank you. Alright. 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S forces was coming to an end trump pledges to fire top military officials over the incident if hes reelected well get the resignations of every single senior official who touched the afghanistan calamity to be on my desk at noon on inauguration day, you know, you have to fire people on the app to fire people when they do a bad job. We never fire anybody he had a fire them like on the apprentice, you have fired yet did a lousy job the white house released a statement from the president honoring the Service Members who lost their lives that read in part quote, they embodied the very best of who we are as a nation, brave, committed, selfless, and we owe them and their families a sacred debt. We will never be able to repay, but will never cease working on to fulfill. In the past, the Biden Ministration has partially blamed the Trump Administration for the botched evacuation, something that trumps own National Security adviser, hr mcmaster, spoke with Anderson Cooper about last night does trump bear part of the responsibility for what happened . Oh, yes. I mean, so the whole premise of talking to the taliban before you leave afghanistan, why the heck were even doing that . What happened in these series of negotiations and concessions to the taliban is we got through the afghans under the bus on the way out. Alright. Panel is back. Mark preston. This chaotic afghanistan withdrawal. It felt like a political Turning Point for the Biden Administration when they had come in of course, we were dealing with covid, we were starting to emerge from covid that felt positive. Obviously we were coming off january 6. That was at something that left a lot of people with bad taste in their mouth around donald trump. But then this moment happens in late august of that first Biden Administration year, and it was a devastating event. What impact do you think it had then on biden and what impact do you think it has now . Well well, if you remember, even the weeks leading up to that day were chaotic, but they came upon us really quick. And at the time, it certainly damaged the Biden Administration is something that he wasnt able to shake now, was it the reason why he got pushed out of the democratic but race know he got pushed out because of his age and you know, his slow response to answering questions and some would say his in his meandering. But this Afghan Afghanistan Situation really is a political football. Ill tell you its a football though that i dont like to touch because when you start bringing in the deaths of Service Members and whos responsible, whos not responsible its an ugly land that i choose not to walk on brad todd, how do you look at this here . Because this of course comes you know, mr. Trump in as well. Harris has to show that shes ready to be commanderinchief. Thats kind of the key test for any leader. And she obviously was not in charge on this day, but she was part of the administration. She told dana bash on this network she was the last one in the room when joe biden made that decision, that tragic decision to get out of kabul. Thats think she needs to answer for. She also is the darkest day of this administration. And its one that the administration itself has yet to the administration ozone 13 families and apology for the disastrous decision. They are really the whole country. Apology for not figuring out how to continue to project strength abroad so even if thats the case, how do you explain donald trump doing things like saying the president ial medal of freedom is better than the Medal Of Honor are the suckers and losers comments. I mean, the things that he has said about members of his he said theres plenty of things that are indefensible along that line, and he shouldnt have to negotiate with the taliban. However, he had made his to figure out a way to keep a modest force in kabul, keep afghanistan stable joe biden and did that because joe biden is a weak president and Kamala Harris was the last one the room to help joe biden. He few choices because of the cap, the calendar that donald trump put in place before he left office, he met with the taliban without meeting with the Afghan Government in terms of consulting with them, he did not talk to our allies about this before moving forward. And that that calendar that he put in place force joe bidens hand. There was only so much he had to work with. I think the trooper getting the strength of the taliban and the fact that they were going to continue to pursue very, very dangerous and very violent war efforts against many of the troops who were there, had they not been removed by the calendar date that was set by the previous administration. So you did have joe biden having to move quickly. He has admitted to there being some faulty intelligence in terms of needing to get more troops out quickly, ensuring that a lot of those were working on our behalf are also brought home safely that has been said, but lets not forget that Donald Trumps at this whole thing in motion and now wants to hide his hand on top of that, it is hard for me to accept someone criticizing any military any Military Move who also makes been a p. O. W. S. Who also talks about those whove been daybell, who have bought for our country, who is also someone who does not and had himself avoided Military Service by being wealthy and privileged. This is someone who does not have a leg to stand on when it comes to our military right . Well leave that there for right now straight ahead here on cnn this morning, Mark Zuckerberg laying out some big regrets. This is really interesting new details this morning about how he said the Biden Administration pressure him around content plus a closer look at the State Of Play in one commonwealth could decide the november election. Pennsylvania to the white house comes right through Pennsylvania Selina picks the president the pros for Have I Got News For You or pretty yeah. What are the kinds we could run out the news before then would never happen if i got news for you. The mere saturday, September 14th at nine on cnn and streaming next day beyond the Emergency Crystals Pomp and fears when you throw them back and who doesnt love a good throw back now with vitamin d for the dark days of winter, your record label is taking off, but so is your Sound Engineer we need to hire a neat indeed. 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Smith arguing the judges decision lacked merit after judge Aileen Cannon ruled the doj didnt have the ability to fund special counsels Like Smith An American Man is dead after an ice cave collapsed in iceland, that group of tourists were exploring the glacier when it happens, several people people had to be rescued, at least one other american tourist was injured spacex delaying the launch of its Polaris Dawn Mission until tomorrow morning but teams can examine a helium leak, polaris dawn, a private mission that will conduct the first spacewalk by private astronauts and fly at the highest altitude of any crewed space mission. Since apollo wow all right. Lets turn now to this its that. Great. State well, Common Wealth the broad joe biden over the 270 electoral vote threshold handed him the 2020 election. And is my home state of pennsylvania, where early voting begins in just 21 days. The most populous Battleground State that has been a frequent Campaign Stop for both candidates. Its viewed as an absolute must win. While trump believes he can sway disaffected the democrats across pennsylvania. The governor there, josh shapiro says, voters are curious about the new democratic ticket when im out in Rural Communities in those areas around pennsylvania where maybe a voter voted for obama, then trump and moved to biden. Voters have shifted theyre really curious about Kamala Harris theyll say to me, hey, what do you think of her . What do you think shes going to do on this that or the other thing . In fact curiosity is important means theyre open to casting a vote for Kamala Harris are joining me now to discuss someone who knows this state very well, former republican congressman charlie dent of pennsylvania, congressman. Its always wonderful to see you. We were going to start doing this on tuesdays because theres actually only nine of them left until we get to election day, which is kind of Mind Boggling but it is what it is. Oh look, you you know, the state so well, you also see all kinds of internal data you are talking to a lot of people, all of the time. Id really like to know this race has moved a lot since biden got out of the race. But who do you see as winning pennsylvania, right now . Who has the upper hand . Well, today, case and by the way, im so motivated after hearing the rocky theme song im ready to run up the Dark Museum Steps in philadelphia. So that said, i think that right now this is still too close to call and pennsylvania, theres still a lot of questions about harris, both trump and biden are wellknown figures in Pennsylvania Harris is not i frankly, i thought that shapiro could have really helped her as her running mate had she selected him because pennsylvania to harris is do or die, she must win pennsylvania to win the election and trump needs to win it too, but not as much as harris so bottom line is, i see pennsylvania right now as a total toss up a lot of questions about harris bill by a lot of voters. Shes probably gonna have to explain herself a bit on why she changed her position on fracking, which is going to harm her. Probably in western pennsylvania pretty significantly. When you have a lot of White Working Class voters who work in that industry thats an issue. But in the philadelphia suburbs, i think she will be strong and i suspect that the issue of Womens Health and reproductive rights will resonate well there. But bottom line, shes going to have to really perform overperform. And that Philadelphia Media market up through the Lehigh Valley and also in the Capital Region and suburban pittsburgh, if she hopes to prevail. But right now, i dont think she has yet closed the deal, not saying she wont, but she hasnt gotten there yet. Yeah, its really interesting congressman, are you seeing any if youre the Harris Campaign, how are you looking at especially male voters who had actually stuck with joe biden, regardless of his challenges you know im not so sure like look, democrats have a Gender Problem with white men, republicans have a Gender Problem with women theres no question about that. Each party does stuff or a gender gap. So she is going to need to make inroads, particularly with College Educated men. College educated white treatment. Why think well might be more receptive to some of her issues and prek particular that crowd is also id say more collegeeducated men probably are more disillusioned or dispirited by trump. Maybe then say white men without a college degree. So i think she can make inroads with them on maybe some of these social issues and shes going to have to come up with some better responses on inflation. I think she did herself and her campaign some damage with that Price Gouging and Price Control Proposal that republicans are having dc time. Now swatting yeah congressman, what do you think is going on on the undercard in the senate race . In particular, this kind of a Marquee Senate race, there and how do you look at coattails, reverse coattails, those kinds of phenomenon going on in pennsylvania right now what would typically happen not just in pennsylvania, but in many other Battleground States is that the senate race often follows the president ial race. We saw that in 2016 with pat toomey. We know what he when he won over over over kt mckend, we saw that any other states but the senate right now, its a total, its up, its up for grabs. I mean, republican candidates, frankly, in ohio and and and out montana or not the strongest candidates theyve ever had running against strong incumbents. And so theyve republicans need to take one of those seats in order to prevail but right now, use watched the senate if as goes the president ial race, i suspect thats how the senate race will go. Mccormick in pennsylvania is very well capitalized so it was casey and thats going to be a real tough race. But right now its probably a slight lean democrat situation. Because case you will have to run ahead of harris in order to hold his seat. Yeah. Alright. Former congressman charlie dent. Very grateful to have you. Thank you very much for being here. Thanks. Were gonna talk with an extra in second with brad todd. I want to get you to weigh in in pennsylvania is briefly because i know youre working on that senate race. What do you see who was a head right now . Harris . Mr. Trump . Well, this is the perhaps one Battleground State where Kamala Harris as a weaker candidate than joe biden. Joe always talked about being the third senator from pennsylvania and there was this group of older voters who lean right and a lot of issues who were very familiar with joe biden. So i think thats a problem for her. She also is going to have to defend the fact she wanted to ban Fracking Fracking is 300,000 jobs in pennsylvania thats a problem for bob casey. Two is one of the big issues looming over the election there. Its the game, its the whole ballgame. Its pennsylvania for harris absolutely is. All right. Lets turn now to this Mark Zuckerberg, the ceo of facebooks parent company, now says he regrets agreeing to requests from the Biden Administration to censor content related to covid19 in a letter to the House Judiciary Committee chairman Jim Jordan Zuckerberg wrote this quote in 2021 senior officials from the Biden Administration, including the white house, repeatedly pressured our team for months to censor certain covid19 content, including humor and satire. And expressed a lot of frustration with our teams when we didnt agree i believe the government pressure was wrong, and i regret that we were not more outspoken about it. Its like a bomb went on to say, facebook should not have temporarily demoted an article from the New York Post reporting on allegations of corruption in the biden family in the leadup to the 2020 election, the panel is back also joined by cnn media analyst sara fischer. Sara, good morning. Wonderful. Well have you. Thanks for jumping in on this story. I think what dr. Berg has done here is fascinating. Its not something weve heard from him in this kind of direct way before. What is going on here and what does it, what does it mean for a future elections are issues like this is a huge deal. Youll recall republicans from two states sued, they went all through huge court battle. Basically alleging that the government overreach. They lost that court case, but we never heard from facebook. We never heard from meta, so we didnt know how they felt about the issue. This is the first time now and then coming out and saying, look, this was a big deal, we dont agree with those policies it sets a precedent moving forward that if any government official, if the white house were to pressure them again, we now know where they stand and hopefully they now feel empowered to push back what do you, what are the politics behind this . I mean, clearly zuckerberg has being influenced by a wide variety of factors sending this letter to jim jordan, did he feel like he had to do it . Why now . Because how did the election theyre going to face a lot of content moderation issues, even though they dont want to be involved in politics and news anymore, inevitably, they are. So if there is going to be an 11th hour issue, like the New York Post story and facebook were to make the wrong call. They want everyone in congress, particularly republicans, to know that their intent here is not to be picking one side that theyre doing what they think is best for the health of the plant form. But if he didnt speak up about the white house pressure, now, no one would have believed them. Then more person would do you see here do if you have a question for sarah to id be interested in kind of like how you you spend a lot of your time thinking about how we as a News Organization here at cnn are going to cover these elections, cover politics. It can be really, really tricky and facebook now, meta was at the center of this, but i hate walking the center line again, but ive been all agree with Mark Zuckerberg but no, i agree. I mean, the idea that we have to protect free speech is critical to our democracy. No question about that. We still havent been able to handle. How do we how do we slow the disinformation . So as people dont get wrong information the government clearly didnt do it the right way. In, but there needs to be a way. We havent figured it out yet. The way, by the way, is transparency. And thats what i think a lot of Government Officials are starting to lean into. Facebook can make all the content Moderation Decisions in the world. We want to know how their algorithms work and why theyre making them. And then we can hold them accountable to the decision whether its right or wrong. We didnt have a lot of those Transparency Measures in place. It was the 2020 election, and quite frankly, the New York Post story that has now forced a lot of Tech Companies to be more forthcoming around how they make these decisions are they telling us more about their algorithm . They are. I mean now this algorithm is much more like tiktok. It elevates what is going viral as opposed to what your Close Friends and family think that matters, kasie, because a lot of the political context have been shared on facebook. It came from your Close Friends and family. So we know that theres a reduction political content. We know that theres a reduction to news content and we know that its easier for a random person to go viral very quickly. Now thats a Disinformation Problem within itself, but allow that to some information right now. It actually isnt mostly politics its a lot of this information around consumer harms, things like, you know, someone hawking a bad drug product thats not good for weight loss, but they claim that it is theirs we just uncorked a whole lot of other issues. Again, to but anyway, very, very remarkable moment from Mark Zuckerberg care. All right. I want to leave you with this all right the band behind that Epic Millennial Karaoke Classic is getting back together. British rock band oasis, they Just Announced a reunion tour happening in the uk next year, did you ever think this was going to happen . Fans never did. I never did. You may remember the nasty breakup. They went through in 2009. Noel gallagher said this about his brother. Remember they are brothers, liam at the time, quote, it is with some sadness and great relief that i quit oasis tonight. People were right and say what they like, but i simply could not go on working with liam a day longer. And they may have had a song called let there be loved, but theres clearly been no love lost between these two brothers over the years. They have squabbled on and off the internet and in interviews, this headline from the l. A. Weekly possibly explaining all of it, quote Liam Gallagher on his brotherinlaw, i would rather eat my own blank, then be in a band with him again and quote, yeah okay. And in 2021 all said he would only get the band back together for 100 million pounds. So, you know, maybe somebody out of a money lying around or maybe there are other song titled dont book, dont look back in anger says the best tickets for the sale go on sale. Tickets for the show go on sale. Saturday morning. I mean, i never