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one, half mesothelial, will send you a free book to answer questions you may have called now and we'll come to you 808 to 14000 we're live from georgia, a key battleground state in the race for the white house just moments, the current us president will debate the former us president as their parties presumptive nominees up first in american history we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world to our studios in atlanta. >> this is the cnn presidential debate this debate is being produced by cnn and it's coming to you live on cnn. cnn international, cnn.com, cnn max, and cnn espanol. >> this is a pivotal moment between president joe biden and former president donald trump in their rematch for the nation's highest office this. will make his case to the american people with just over four months until election day. good evening. i'm dana bash, anchor of cnn's inside politics and culture hello, anchor of state of the union. >> i'm jake tapper, anchor of cnn's the lead and co-anchor of state of the union. dana and i will co-moderate this evening. our job is to facilitate a debate between the two candidates tonight. before we introduce them, we wanted to share the rules of the debate with the audience at home. former president trump will be on the left side of the screen. president biden will be appearing on the right according toss, determined their positions each candidate will have two minutes to answer a question and one minute ii sure responses and rebuttals an additional minute for follow-up clarification or response is at the moderator's discretion when it's time for our candidate today to speak his microphone will be turned on and his opponent's microphone will be turned off to the candidate. >> interrupt when his microphone is muted, he will can you difficult to understand for viewers at home? at the end of the debate, each candidate will get two minutes for closing statements. there is no studio audience tonight pre-written notes, props, or contact with campaign staff are not permitted during the debate. by accepting our invitation to debate both candidates and their campaigns agreed to accept these rules now please welcome the 46 president of the united states, joe biden please welcome the 45th president of the united states donald trump gentlemen thanks so much for being here. >> let's begin the debate and let's start with the issue that voters consistently say is their top concern. the economy president biden inflation has slowed, but prices remain high since you took office, the price of essentials has increased for example, a basket of groceries that cost $100. then, now costs more than $120. and typical home prices have jumped more than 30%. what do you say to voters who feel they are worse off under your presidency than they were under president trump? >> we're going to take a look at what i was left when i became president. what mr. trump left me we had an economy that was in freefall the pandemic was so badly handled many people were dying. all he said was it's not that serious, just inject a little bleach in your arm. it'd be all right. economy collapsed renewed jobs unemployment rate rose to 15%. it was terrible. and so what we had to do is try to put things back together again that's exactly what we began to do we created 15,000 new jobs. we brought out in a position where we have 800,000 new manufacturing jobs. but there's more to be done there's more to be done working class people are still in trouble. i come from scranton, pennsylvania. i come of household where the kitchen table, if things weren't able to be met during the month, was a problem. price of eggs, the price of gas, the price of housing, the price of a whole range of things. that's why i'm working so hard to make sure i deal with those problems. and we're going to make sure that we have reduced the price of housing. we're going to make sure we build 2 million new units. we're going to make sure we cap rents. so corporate greed can't take over the combination. what i was left with and corporate greed are the reason why read this problem right now in addition to that, we're in a situation where if you had take a look at all that was done at his administration, he didn't do much at all by the time he left or things were in chaos, literally chaos and so we put things back together, we create and i said those jobs, we made sure we had a situation where we now we brought down the price of prescription drugs, which is a major issue for many people, to $15 for a insulin shot as opposed to $400. no senior has to be more than $200 for any drug. all the drugs they can include beginning next year in a situation is making and we're going to make that available to everybody to all americans were working to bring down the price of around the kitchen table. and that's what we're going to get down thank you, president trump. we're the greatest economy in the history of our country. >> and we have never done so well every everybody was amazed by it. other countries were copying us. we got hit with covid. and when we did, we spent the money necessary, so we wouldn't end up in a great depression. the likes of which we had in 1929 by the time we finished. so we did a great job. we got a lot of credit for the economy, a lot of credit for the military and no wars and so many other things. everything was rocking good but the thing we never got the credit for and we should have is getting us out of that covid mess. he created mandates that was a disaster for our country, but other than that, we had, we had given them back a a country where the stock market actually was higher than pre-covid. and nobody thought that was even possible. the only jobs he created are for illegal immigrants and bounce-back jobs. a bounce-back from the covid he has not done a good job. he's done a poor job and inflation's killing our country. it is absolutely killing us thank you, president biden will look the greatest economy in the world. he's the only one to fix that. i think anybody else who thinks the gray hair the greatest economy in the world and the fact that the matter is that we pride ourselves in a situation where his economy, you rewarded the wealthy. he had the largest tax cut in american history $2 he raised the deficit larger than any president has in any one term, is the only president other than herbert hoover, who had lost more jobs than he had when he began, since herbert hoover, the idea that he did something that was significant and the military you know, when he was president, they were still killing people in afghanistan he didn't do anything about that. when he was president, we were still find ourselves in a position where, you had a notion that we were this safe country. truth is, i'm the only president this century that doesn't have any this, this decade that any troops dying anywhere in the world like he did president trump, i want to follow up if i can, you want to respond to him? >> well, i'm going to ask you a follow-up. you can do whatever you want with the minute that we gave you. i want to follow up. you want to impose a 10% tariff on all goods coming into the u.s. how will you ensure that that doesn't drive prices even higher? not going to drive them higher. it's just going to cause countries that have been ripping us off for years, like china and many others in all fairness to china. it's going to just force them to pay us a lot of money, reduce our deficit tremendously, and give us a lot of power for other things. but he, he made a statement. the only thing he was right about is gave you the largest tax cut in history. i also gave you the largest regulation cut in history that's why we had all the jobs and the jobs went down and then they bounced back and he's taking credit for bounce-back jobs. you can't do that. he also said he inherited 9% inflation. now he inherited almost no inflation and it stayed that way for 14 months. and then it blew up under his leadership because they spent money like a bunch of people that didn't know what they were doing and they don't know what they were doing. it was the worst probably the worst administration in history. there's never been as far as afghanistan is concerned, i was getting out of afghanistan, but we were getting it out with dignity, with strength, with power. he got out. it was the most embarrassing de in the history of our country's life president trump, over the last eight years under both of your administrations, the national debt soared to record highs. >> and according to a new non-partisan analysis, president trump, your administration approved $8.4 trillion the new debt, while so far president biden, you've approved $4.3 trillion in new debt. so former president trump, many of the tax cuts that you signed into law are set to expire next year. you want to extend them and go even further. you say with the u.s. facing trillion-dollar deficits and record debt why should top earners and corporations pay even less in taxes than they do now, because the tax cuts spurred the greatest economy that we've ever seen just prior to covid, and even after covid, it was so strong that we're able to get through covid much better than just about any other country. but we spurred that tax, spurred now, when we cut the taxes as example people, the corporate tax was cut down to 21% from 39% plus beyond that, we took in more revenue with much less tax and companies were bringing back trillions of dollars back into our country the country was going like never before. and we were ready to start paying down debt. we're ready start using the liquid gold, right? there are feet, the oil and gas right under our feet. we were going to have something that nobody else has had. we got hit with covid. we did a lot to fix it. i gave him an unbelievable situation with all of the therapeutics and all of the things that we came up with we gave him something great. remember more people died under his administration, even though we had largely fixed it more people died under his administration than our administration. and we were right in the middle of it, something which a lot of people don't like to talk about. but he had far more people dying in his administration. he did the which is a disaster mandating it. the vaccine went out. he did a mandate on the vaccine, which is the thing that people most objected to about the vaccine and he did a very poor job, just a very poor job. and i will tell you, not only poor there, but throughout the entire world, we're no longer respected as a country they don't respect our leadership don't respect the united states anymore. we're like a third world de, between weaponization of his election, trying to go after his political opponent. all of the things he's done. we've become like a third world nation, and it's a shame the damage he's done to our country. and i'd love to ask him and will why he allowed millions of people to come in? here from prisons, jails, and mental institutions to come into our country and destroy our country president trump, we will get to immigration later in this block. >> president biden, i want to give you an opportunity to respond to this question about the national debt he had the largest national debt of any president for your period. number one number two he that 2 $2,000,000,000,000 tax cut benefited the very wealthy i went i'm going to do is fix the texas, for example. we have 1,000 trillionaires in america i mean, billionaires in america. and what's happening. they're in a situation where they in fact pay 8.2% in taxes. if they just paid 24%, 25%, either one of those numbers, they'd raised 500 million billion dollars, i should say, in a ten-year period we'd be able to right. wipe out his debt. we'd be able to help make sure that all those things we need to do childcare, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our healthcare system, making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what i've been able to do. it the the covid excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with what if we finally beat medicare thank you, president biden, president trump was right. he did beat medicare, beat it to death, and he's destroying medicare because all of these people are coming in. they're putting them on medicare, they're putting them on social security, they're going to destroy social security. this man is going to single handedly destroy social security. these millions and millions of people coming in, they're trying to put them on social security. he will wipe out social security. he will wipe out medicare. so he was right in the way he finished that sentence. and it's a shame. what's happened to our country? in the last four years is not to be believed. foreign countries. i'm friends with a lot of people. they cannot believe what happened to the united states of america. we're no longer respected they don't like us. we give them everything they want and they think we're stupid. they think we're very stupid people. what we're doing for other countries, and they do nothing for us. what this man has done is absolutely criminal. >> thank you, president trump, dana. >> this is the first presidential election since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade this morning, the court ruled on yet another abortion case. temporarily allowing emergency abortions to continue in idaho. despite that state's restrictive ban, former president trump you take credit for the decision to overturn roe v. wade, which returned the issue of abortion to the states, correct. however, the federal government still plays a role in whether or not women have access to abortion pills. they're used in about two-thirds of all abortions as president, would you block abortion medication first of all, the supreme court just approved the abortion pill. >> and i agree with their decision to have done that. and i will not block it. and if you look at this whole question that you're asking, a complex but not really complex, 51 years ago you had roe v. wade and everybody wanted to get it back to the states. everybody without exception, democrats, republicans, liberals conservatives everybody wanted it back religious leaders and what i did is i put three great supreme court justices on the court. and they happened to vote in favor of killing roe v. wade. and moving it back to the states. this is something that everybody wanted. now, ten years ago or so, they started talking about how many weeks and how many this are getting into other things. but every legal scholar throughout the world, the most respected wanted it brought back to the states. i did that. now, the states are working it out. if you look at ohio, it was a decision that was it was an end result that was a little bit more liberal than you would have thought kansas, i would say the same thing. texas is different, florida is different, but they're all making their own decisions it's right now and right now, the states control it. that's the vote of the people like ronald reagan, i believe in the exceptions, i am a person that believes and frankly, i think it's important to believe in the exceptions. some people you have to follow your heart, some people don't believe in that but i believe in the exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother. i think it's very important. some people don't follow your heart, but you have to get elected also. and because that has to do with other things you've got to get elected the problem they have is they're radical because they will take the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month, and even after birth, after birth, if you look at the former governor of virginia he was willing to do this. he said, we'll put the baby aside and we'll determine what we do with the baby, meaning we'll kill the baby what happened is we brought it back to the states and the country is now coming together on this issue. it's been a great thing. thank you, president biden, spin a terrible thing. what you've done, a fact is that the vast majority of constitutional scholars supported roe when it was decided supported roe i was this idea that they were all against it is just ridiculous and this is the guy who says the states should be able to have it were a state where in six weeks you don't even know whether you're pregnant or not, but you cannot see the doctor heavier and have him decide on what your circumstances are, whether you need help. the idea that states are able to do this as a little like saying, we're going to turn civil rights back to the states. each state have a different rule. look, there's so many young women who have been including a young woman who just was murdered and he, he went to the funeral idea that she was murdered by a by, by an immigrant coming into they talk about that but here's the deal. there's a lot of young women to be raped by their, by their in-laws, by their by their spouses the sisters, by just it's just ridiculous. and they can do nothing about it. and then tried to rest of either across state lines. thank you there have been many young women murdered by the same people. >> he allows to come across our border we have a border that's the most dangerous place anywhere in the world considered the most dangerous place anywhere in the world. and he opened it up. and these killers are coming into our country. and they are raping and killing women. and it's a terrible thing as far as the abortion is concerned, it is now back with the states. the states are voting and in many cases they, it's frankly a very liberal decision in many cases, it's the opposite. but they're voting and it's bringing it back to the vote of the people, which is what everybody wanted, including the founders, if they knew about this issue, which frankly they didn't but they would have everybody wanted brought back. ronald reagan wanted it brought back. he wasn't able to get it everybody wanted it brought back and many presidents had tried to get it back. i was the one to do it. and again, this gives it the vote of the people and that's where they wanted it. every legal scholar wanted it that way. staying on the topic of abortion, president biden, seven states. i'll let you do that. this is the same topic, seven states have no legal restrictions on how far into a pregnancy a woman can obtain an abortion do you support any legal limits on how late a woman should be able to terminate a pregnancy. i supported roe v. >> wade, which had three trimesters. first time is between a woman and a doctor. second time is between the doctor and an extreme situation a third time is between the doctor. i mean, it'd be between the woman and the state. the idea that the politicians, that the founders wanted, the politicians to be the ones making decisions about women's health is ridiculous. that's the last no politician making that decision a doctor should be making those decisions. that's how it should be run. that's what you're going to do and if i'm elected, i'm going to restore roe v wade. so that means he can take the life of the baby in the ninth month and even after birth, because some states democrat-run take it after birth. again, the governor, former governor of virginia put the baby down, then we decide what to do with it. so he's in he's willing to, as we say, rip the baby out of the woman the ninth month and kill the baby nobody wants that to happen, democrat or republican, nobody wants it to happen that is simply not true. that roe v. wade does not provide for that. that's not the circumstance. only the woman's life is in danger if she's going to die. that's the only circumstance in which that can happen. but we are not for late term abortion period period, period under roe v. wade, you have late term abortion. you can do whatever you want depending on the state, you can do whatever you want. we don't think that's a good thing. we think it's a radical thing. we think the democrats are the radicals, not the republicans are 51 years. that was the law, 51 years constants are scholarship said it was the right way to go. 51 years and it was i can away because this guy put very conservative members on the supreme court, takes credit for taking it away. what's he going to do? what's he going to do? in fact, if if the maga republicans he gets elected and the maga republicans control the congress and they pass on universal ban on abortion period across the board at six weeks or seven, or eight or ten weeks, something very, very conservative. you're going to sign that bill. i'll veto it. he'll sign it. >> thank you july 4 cnn concert event, with performance iq by keith urban ashanti, bb wrexham, the killers many more go for dinner america thursday, july 4, dead seven eastern on cnn how long have you been tracking or car's value with corona? >> just like seven months. should we sell it? we hold oh, silver 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separated. that's not the right way to go. what i've done since i've changed the law, what's happened? i've changed it in a way that now you're in a situation where there are 40% fewer people coming across the border illegally. his bedroom, he left office and i'm going to continue to move until we get the total ban on the the total initiative relative to what we can do with more border patrol and more asylum officers president trump, i really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. i don't think he knows what he said either look, we had the safest border in the history of our country. the board only had to do is leave it only had to do was leave it. he decided to open up our border, open up our country to people that are from prisons, people that are from mental institutions, insane asylum, terrorists. we have the largest number of terrorists coming into our country right now. all terrorists, all over the world, not just in south america, all over the world. they come from the middle east everywhere, all over the world. they're pouring in and this guy just left it open and he didn't need legislation because i didn't have legislation. i said close the border. we had the safest border in history in that final couple of months. have my presidency, we had, according to border patrol, who is great and by the way, who endorsed me for president, but i won't say that. but they endorsed me for president. rather than just speak to him. but look, we had the safest border in history. now we have the worst border in history. there's never been anything like it, and people are dying all over the place, including the people that are coming up like arizona trump, president biden, the only terrorist to done anything crossing the border is one who came along and killed three because administration kill. no. perfect command headed administration. kill three american soldiers, killed three american soldiers. that's the only terrorist that's there. i'm not saying no terrorist ever got through with the idea. they're emptying their prisons. we're welcoming these people that's simply not true. there's no data to support what he once again, he's exaggerating. he's lying president trump, staying on the topic of immigration, you've said that you're going to carry out, quote, the largest domestic deportation operation in american history, unquote. >> does that mean that you will deport every undocumented immigrant in america, including those who have jobs, including those whose spouses are citizens and including those who have lived here for decades. and if so, how will you do it? >> and i just one second. he said we killed three people the people we killed are al-baghdadi and salah mainly the two greatest stairs, biggest terrorists anywhere in the world. and it had a huge impact on everything, not just border, on everything he's the one that killed people with the bad water, including hundreds of thousands of people dying. and also killing our citizens when they come in. we, we are living right now in a rat's nest. they're killing our people in new york and california in every state in the union because we don't have borders anymore every state is now a border. and because of his ridiculous insane and very stupid policies, people are coming in and they're killing our citizens at a level that we've never, we call it migrant crime. i'd call it biden migrant crime. they're killing our citizens at a level that we've never seen before. and you're reading it like these three incredible young girls over the last few days one of them i just spoke to the mother and they just had the funeral for this girl 12-years-old. this is horrible. what's taken place, what's taken place in our country. we're literally an uncivilized country now. he doesn't want it to be, he just doesn't know. he opened the borders. nobody's ever seen anything like we have to get a lot of these people out and we have to get them out fast because they're going to destroy our country. just take a look at where they're living. they're living in luxury hotels in new york city and other places are veterans are on the street. they're dying because he doesn't care about our veterans. here's a case, doesn't like the military at all, and he doesn't care about our veterans. nobody had been worse. i had the highest approval rating for veterans taking care of the va he has the worst he's gotten rid of all the things that i approved choice that i got through congress are all of the different things i approved. they abandoned. we had by far the highest and now it's down in less than half because he's done all these great things that we did. and i think he did it just because i approved it, which is crazy but he has killed so many people at our border by a all of these people to come in very sad de america biden, you have the mic, every single thing he said is a lie every single one. for example veterans are a hell of a lot better off since i passed the pact act 1 million of them now have insurance and their families have it their families have it because what happened whether was agent orange or burn pits, they're all being covered now. and he opposed his group opposed that. we're also in a situation where we have great respect for veterans. i spent my son spent a year in iraq maybe when the next one of those burn pits came back with stage four glioblastoma. i was recently in in france for d-day and i spoke at all about those heroes that died. i went to the world war ii cemetery where we're want senator refused to go to he was standing with his four-star general and he told me said, i don't want to go in there because they're my toe losers and suckers. my son was not a loser, was not a sucker. you're the sucker. you're the loser. >> president trump first of all, that was a made-up quote, suckers and losers. they made it up. it was in a third-rate magazine that's failing like many of these magazines. he made that up. he put it in commercials. we've notified them we had 19 people that said i didn't say it and think of this, who would say i'm at a cemetery or i'm talking about our veterans because nobody's taken better care. i'm so glad this came up and he brought it up. there's nobody that's taken better care of ourselves is that i have to think that i would in front of generals and others say suckers and losers. we have 19 people that said it was never said by me. it was made up by him just like russia, russia, russia it was made up just like the 51 intelligence agents are made up. just like the new thing with the 16 economists are talking to same thing, 51 intelligence agents said that the laptop was russia disinformation. it wasn't that came from his son, hunter it wasn't russia. this information he made up the suckers and losers, so he should apologize to be right now four-star general, stand your side was on your staff who said you said it period. that's number one. and number two, the idea the idea that i have to apologize to you for anything along the line. we've done more for veterans than any president has in american history. american history, and now or their family, the only sacred obligation we have as a country is to care for our veterans when they come home and their families and equip them when they go to war. that's what we're doing. that's what the va is doing. now. they're doing more for veterans than ever before in our history. >> alright, thank you so much i didn't waiting for them all you can see large sunday, july 7, and discovery and stream on max. look cockroach resilient creatures, true? miracles of evolution, where there is one others aren't far behind oh, scavenging for food. the cockroach will. now that's horrifying your favorite ortho home defense max indoor insect barrier one application kills and prevents bugs for 365 days my house down nature's wild. >> your home doesn't have to be thinking i'm thinking about her honeymoon about africa far hot air balloon rides, swim 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information. as far as russia and ukraine, if we had a real president, the president that knew, that was respected by putin he would have never, he would have never invaded ukraine. a lot of people are dead right now, much more than people know. they talk about numbers. you can double those numbers, maybe triple those numbers he did nothing to stop it. in fact, i think he encouraged russia from going in. i'll tell you what happened. he was so bad with afghanistan. it was such a horrible embarrassment, most embarrassing moment in the history of our country that when putin watched that and he saw the incompetence that he should, he should have fired those generals like i fired the one that you mentioned. and so he's got no love loss, but he should have fired those generals no general got fired for the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country afghanistan, where we left billions of dollars of equipment behind, we lost 13 beautiful soldiers and 38 soldiers were obliterated. and by the way, we left people behind too. we left american citizens behind when putin saw that, he said, you know what, i think we're going to go in and maybe take my this was his dream. i talked to him about it. his dream. the difference is he never would have invaded ukraine never just like israel would have never been invaded in 1 million years by hamas you know why because iran was broke with me, i wouldn't let anybody do business with them. they ran out of money. they were broke, they had no money for hamas. they had no money for anything, no money for terror. that's why you had no terror at all during my administration this place, the whole world is blowing up under him president biden never heard so much malarkey in my whole life book, the fact of the matter is that we're in a situation where let's take the last point first he iran attacked american troops, killed, caused brain damage for a number of these troops. and he did nothing about it recently when he was president, they attacked. he said they're just having headaches. that's all it he didn't do a thing when the attack took place. number one number two, we got over 100,000 americans and others out of afghanistan during that airlift number three, we found ourselves in a situation where if you take a look at what trump did in ukraine he's this guy told you ukraine, told trump, do whatever you want and do whatever you want and that's exactly what trump did to putin encouraged him, do whatever you want. anyone and listen to what he said when he went was going to take kyiv in five days. remember, because it's part of the old soviet union that's what he wanted to re-establish. kyiv, and he in fact didn't do it at all. he didn't want unable to get it done. and they've lost over. they've lost thousands and thousands of troops, 500,000 troops president trump, i never said that for one minute. i just want to go back to my original question, which is, are putin's terms acceptable to you, keeping the territory? >> no, they're not acceptable but look, this is a war that never should have started if we had a leader in this war, he led everybody along. he's given 200 billion now or more to ukraine. he's given $200 billion. that's a lot of money. i don't think there's ever been anything like it every time that zelenskyy comes to this country, he walks away with 60 billion is the greatest salesman ever and i'm not knocking him. i'm not knocking anything. i'm only saying he's the money that we're spending on this war. and we shouldn't be spending, it should have never happened. i will have that war settled between putin and zelenskyy as president-elect before i take office on january 20, i'll have that war settled people being killed. so needlessly, so stupidly. and i will get it settled and i'll get it settled fast before i take office you have a minute. the fact is that putin is a war criminal. he's killed thousands and thousands of people. and he has made one thing clear. he wants to re-establish what was part of the soviet empire, not just a piece he wants all of ukraine. that's what he wants. and then do you think he'll stop there? do you think he'll stop when if he takes ukraine. what do you think happens to poland? what did they get? bail or what do you think happens to those nato countries and so if you want a war, you ought to find out what he's going to do. because if in fact he does what he says and walks away. by the way, all that money we give ukraine and from weapons we make here in the united states, we give them the weapons not the money at this point and our nato allies have produced as much funding for ukraine as we have. that's why it's, that's why we're strong. >> thank you. moving on to the middle east in october, hamas attacked israel, killing more than 1,000 people and taking hundreds of hostages among those held and thought to still be alive are five americans. israel's response has killed thousands of palestinians and created a humanitarian crisis in gaza president biden you've put forward a proposal to resolve this conflict. but so far hamas has not released the remaining hostages and israel is continuing its military offensive in gaza. so what additional leverage will you use to get hamas and israel to end the war? you have two minutes hey everyone from united nations just curious, security council straight through to the g7, to the israelis and netanyahu himself have endorsed the plan i put forward, endorsed the plan. >> i put forward, which has three stages to it. the first stage is to treat the hostages for a ceasefire. second phase is a ceasefire with additional conditions the third phase is know the end of the war. they only want to watch the war to continue is hamas. number one, they're the only ones standing now, we're still pushing hard from to get them to accept. in the meantime, what's happened in israel were finally the only thing i've denied israel was 2000 pound bombs they don't work very well populated areas. they kill a lot in some people were providing israel with all the weapons they need. and when they need them and by the way, i'm the guy that organized the world against iran when they had a full-blown in a musty ballistic missile attack on israel. no one was hurt, nobody one israeli was accidentally killed. and it stopped we saved israel. we are the biggest producer of support for israel of anyone in the world and so that's they are two different things. mosque cannot be allowed to be continued. we continue to send our experts and our intelligence people to how they can get hamas like we did bin laden you don't have to do it. and by the way, they've been greatly weakened. hamas greatly weakened, and they should be, they should be eliminated. but you've got to be careful for what you use these certain weapons among population centers just going back to ukraine for one second. we have an ocean separating us the european nations together have spent 100 billion or maybe more than that, less than us why doesn't he call them? so you got to put up your money like i did with nato. i got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars a secretary general of nato said trump did the most incredible job i've ever seen. you wouldn't they wouldn't have any they were going out of business. we were spending almost 100% of the money was paid by us he didn't do that. he's getting all you got to ask these people to put up the money were over $100 billion. more spent and it has a bigger impact on them because of location, because we have an ocean in between, you got to ask him as far as israel and hamas, israel is the one that wants good. he said, the only one who wants to keep going is hamas actually, israel is the one. and you should let him go and let them finish the job. he doesn't want to do it. he's become like a palestinian. but they don't like him because he's a very bad palestinian. he's a weak one. >> president biden, you have a minute. >> i've never heard so much foolishness. this a guy who wants to get out of nato, you're going to stay in data. you're going to pull out a nato the idea that we have our strength lies in our alliances as well. it may be a big ocean, but we're ever able to avoid a war in europe, a major war in europe what happens if in fact you have putin continue to go into the nato? we have an article five agreement attack on one is attack on all you want to start the nuclear war. he keeps talking about, go ahead. let putin go in and control ukraine and then move on to poland and other places what happens then? he has no idea what tell he's talking about. by the way, i got 50 other nations around the world to see tort ukraine, including japan and south korea, because they understand that this was this, this kind of dislocation has a serious threat to the whole world. peace no, no major war in europe has ever been able to be contained just to europe president trump, just a follow-up. would you support the creation of an independent palestinian state in order to achieve peace in the region, i'd have to see, but before we do that, the problem we have is that we spend all the money so they kill us on trade. i made great trade deals with the european nations because if you add them up, they're about the same size economically their economy is about the same size as the united states. and they were no cars. no, they don't want anything that we have, but we're supposed to take their cars, their food, their everything, their agriculture i changed that but the big thing i changed is they don't want to pay. and the only reason that he can play games with nato is because i got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars. i said, and he's right about this. i said no, i'm not going to support data if you don't pay they asked me that question. would you guard us against russia at a very secret meeting of the 28 states at that time, nations at that time. they said no, if you don't pay, i won't do that. and you know what happened, billions 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supporters that de some of them stormed the capitol to stop the constitutionally mandated counting of electoral votes. as president, you swore an oath to quote, preserve, protect, and defend unquote the constitution what do you say to voters who believe that you violated that oath through your actions and inaction on january 6, and worry that you'll do it again. >> why don't think too many believe that and let me tell you about january 6. on january 6, we had a great border. nobody coming through very few on january 6, we were energy independent on january 6, we had the lowest taxes ever we had the lowest regulations ever on january 6, we were respected all over the world, all over the world. we were respected. and then he comes in and we're now laughed that we're like a bunch of stupid people. what happened to the united states's reputation under this man's leadership is horrible, including weaponization, which i'm sure at some point you'll be talking about where he goes after his political opponent because he can't beat them fair and square. you have 80 seconds left. my question was, what do you say to those voters who believe that you violated? violated your constitutional oath through your actions and inaction on january 6, 2021, and worried that you'll do it again. well, i didn't say that to anybody. i said peacefully and patriotically. and nancy pelosi, if you just watched the news from two days ago on tape to her daughter who's a documentary filmmaker. they say what she's saying. oh, no, it's my responsibility. i was responsible for this because i offered her 10,000 soldiers or national guard and she turned them down and the mayor of in writing, by the way, the mayor in writing turned it down. the mayor of dc they turned it down. i offered 10,000 because i could see i had virtually nothing to do. they asked me to go make a speech. i could see what was happening to everybody was saying they're going to be there on january 6. i gotta be there. and i said, you know what, that's a lot of people coming, you could feel it. you could feel it too, and you could feel it. and i said, they ought to have some national he'll guard or whatever. and i offered it to her and she now admits that she turned it down and it was the same day she was i don't know. he can't be very happy with her daughter because it made her into a liar. she said, i take full responsibility for january 6, president biden he encouraged those folks about for capital real number line. i sat my dayana, your mouth and oval office. he sat there for three hours three hours watching, begging, being begged by his vice president, and a number of his colleagues and republicans as well to do something to call for a stop, to end. it instead, he talked they've talked about if people be patriots and and great patrons of america in fact, he says he'll not forgive them for what they've done they've been convicted. he says he wants to commute their sentences and say that no he went to every single court in the nation. i don't know how many cases scores of cases including the supreme court and they said they said no, no, this guy this guy is responsible for doing what is being was done, did do a thing. and these people should be in jail and they should be the ones are being held accountable if he wants to let them all out. and now he says if he loses again such a whiner that he is, that there could be a bloodbath. thank you, president biden, president trump where they've done to some people that are so innocent. you ought to be ashamed of yourself, what you have done, how you've destroyed the lives of so many people when they ripped down portland, when they ripped down many other cities, you go to minnesota, minneapolis, what they've done there with the fires all over the city, if i didn't bring in the national guard, that city would have been destroyed. when you look at all of the they took over big chunks of seattle. i was all set to bring in the national guard. they heard that they saw them coming and they left immediately. what he said about this whole subject is so off peacefully patriotic. one other thing the unselect committee, which is basically two horrible republicans that are all gone now out of office and democrats, all democrats, they destroyed and deleted all of the information they found because they found out we were right we were right. and they deleted and destroyed all of the information. they should go to jail for that. if a republican did that, they'd go to thank you, president trump, president biden, i want to give you a minute. >> the only person in this stage is a convicted felon is the man i'm looking at right now. and the fact of the matter is he is what he's telling you is simply not true the fact is that there was no effort on his part to stop what was going on up on capitol hill and all those people, every one of those who are convicted, deserves to be convicted. the idea that they didn't kill somebody, just went in and broke down doors, broke the windows, occupied offices, turned over desks, turned them over statues the idea that those people are patriots come on. when i asked him about first of two debates, we had debates, we had that first time around. i said, will you denounce the proud boys? he said, no, i'll tell them, stand by. the idea he's refusing. will you denounce these guys? we did not ask the people we're talking about now. we denounce the people, attacked that capitol. what are you going to do i'm going to give you a a minute. president trump for a follow-up question. i have after a jury convicted you of 34 felonies last month, you said if re-elected, you would quote, have every right to go after unquote your political opponents. you just talked about members of the select committee on january 6 going to jail. your main political opponent is standing on stage with you tonight. can you clarify exactly what it means about you feeling you have every right to go after your political opponents well, i said my retribution is going to be success. we're going to make this country successful again because right now it's a failing nation. my retribution is going to be success. but when he talks about a convicted felon, his son is a convicted felon at a very high level. his son is convicted, going to be convicted probably numerous other times. should have been convicted before, but his justice department let the statute of limitations lapse on the most important things. but he could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets out of office, joe could be a convicted felon with all of the things that he's done, he's done horrible things. all of the death caused at the border telling the ukrainian people that we're going to want $1 or you change the prosecutor. otherwise you're not getting $1 billion. if i ever said that, that's quid pro quo that we're not gonna do anything. we're not going to give you 1 billion unless you change your prosecutor having to do with the sun this man is a criminal. this man, you're lucky. you're lucky. i did nothing wrong we'd have a system that was rigged and disgusting. i did nothing. well, thank you, president trump, president biden, you have said, i'm coming right to you, sir well, you want to respond? go ahead. i'll give you a minute to respond. >> the idea that i did anything wrong relative to what you're talking about is outrageous it's simply a lie. number one. number two, the idea that you have a right to seek retribution against any american just because you're a president is wrong, is simply wrong. no president's ever spoken like that before? no president in our history has spoken like that before. number three the crimes that you are still charged with and think of all the civil penalties you have. how many billions of dollars do you owe and civil penalties for molesting a woman in public for doing a whole range of things, of having sex with a porn star on the night while your wife if it was pregnant, what what what are you talking about you have the morals of an alleycat mat, sir. >> i didn't have sex with a porn star. >> number one. number two, that was a case that was started and moved. they moved a high-ranking official, a doj, into the manhattan da's office to start that case? that case is going to be appealed in one, we had a very terrible judge. horrible judge democrat. the prosecutor were all high-ranking democrats appointed people and the both the civil and a criminal. he basically went after his political opponent because he thought it was going to damage me. but when the public found out about these cases because they understand it better than he does. he has no idea what these cases are. but what they found out about these cases, you know what they did? my poll numbers went up way up, you know that because you're reporting it. and we took in more money in the last two weeks than we've ever taken in the history of any campaign. i don't think any campaign has ever taken hundreds of millions of dollars came pouring in because the public knows it's a scam and it's a guy that's after his political opponent because he can't win fair and square. thank you, president trump, president biden, you have said, quote, donald trump and his maga republicans are determined to destroy american democracy do you believe that the tens of millions of americans who are likely to vote for president trump will be voting against american democracy more they know about what he's done. >> yes. the more they know about what he's done. and if not more common, he's got a lot of cases around the road coming out. he's got he's got a whole range of issues. he has to face. i don't know what the juries will do, but i knew i do know he has a real problem and so the fact that could you ever think you're hearing any president say that i'm going to seek retribution. do you ever hear any president say that i thought hit by some good ideas what got me involved to run the first place after my son and daughter decided in iraq because of iraq i said i wasn't going to run again until i saw what happened in charlottesville, virginia people coming out of the woods carrying swastikas on torches, torches and singing the same anti-semitic bile. they sign when back in germany. and what did and the young woman got killed. i spoke to the mother and she they asked him, i said what well, what do you think of those people? the people who wanted to get killed, wanted to try to stop it. and the ones he said, i think they're fine people on both sides. what american president would ever say, nazis coming out of fields carrying torches, singing the same anti-semitic bile carrying swastikas were fine people. this is the guy since it was done some good things like, to know what they are the good things hitler's done, that's what he said this guy has no sense of american democracy president trump, jake, both of you know that story has been totally wiped out because when you see the sentence, it said 100% exoneration on there. so he just keeps it going. he says he ran because of charlottesville. you didn't run because of charlottesville? he ran because it was his last chance at he's not equipped to be president. you know it. and i know this ridiculous. we have a debate. we're trying to justify his presidency. his presidency, his without question the worst president, the worst presidency in the history of our country. we shouldn't be having a debate about it. there's nothing to debate he made up the charlottesville story and you'll see it's debunked all over the place every anchor has every reasonable actor has debunked it. and just the other de it came out where it was fully debunked. it's a nonsense story. he knows that and he didn't run because of charlottesville. he used that as an excuse to run president biden, and debunk it happened. all you have to do is listen to what we said at the time and the idea that somehow that's the only reason i ran i ran because i was worried a guy like this guy get elected if he thought they were good people coming out of that all that for us carrying those those woods, carrying those torches, then he didn't deserve would it be president didn't deserve to be president at all in the idea that he's talking about all of this being fabricated. we saw with our own eyes, we saw what happened on january 2. we saw the people breaking windows. we saw people occupying there hizon vice president. look, there's a reason why 40 of his 44 top cabinet officers refused endorsing this time. as vice president has endorsed him this time. so why, why they know him? well, they serve with them. why are they not endorsing him thank you, president biden, we're going to be right back with more from the cnn presidential debate. >> the final episode of violent earth, there are deadly violence and unleash massive hurricane impacts are worsening, is it too late to undo? decades of climate change? violin ard with the we have schreiber tomorrow with nine on 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related causes. and black americans are imprisoned at five times the rate of white americans. what do you say to black voters who are disappointed that you haven't made more progress. >> knowledge he made a lot of progress, number one, the facts and matter is more small black businesses that started in any time in history number two, the wages of black, black unemployment is the lowest level of spend in a long, long time number three, we find him friday for friday and housing for black americans. and dealing with segregation that exists among these corporate could these corporate operations that collude to keep people out of their houses in addition to that, we find that the impact of on the choice that black families have to make relative to childcare is incredibly difficult. when we did the first major piece of legislation in the past, i was able to reduce black childcare costs or cut them in half in half. we're going to make sure we provide for childcare costs we've got to make sure because when you provide that childcare protections, you increase economic growth because more people can be in the job market so there's more to be done, considerably more to be done. but we've done a great deal so far, and i'm not letting up and they know it you have 49 seconds left. >> what do you say to black voters who are disappointed with the progress so far? >> i say i don't play in the for being disappointed inflation is still hurting them badly. for example, i provided for the idea that any black family first-time home buyer, she got a $10,000 tax it's great to be able to buy their first home. so they can get started. i made sure that we're in a situation where all those black families and those black individuals provided to have to take out student loans. that room imposed loaning than a favorite and gag nursing dr and anything having to do with volunteerism. if they paid their bills for ten years on their student debt, all the rest was forgiven after ten years millions have benefited from that. and we're going to do a whole lot more for black families. >> thank you, president trump. >> and he caused the inflation. he's blaming inflation and he's right, it's been very bad. he caused the inflation and it's killing black families and hispanic families. and just about everybody it's killing people. they can't buy groceries anymore. they can't, you look at the cost of food where it's doubled and tripled and quadrupled. they can't live they're not living anymore. he caused this inflation. i gave him a country with no, essentially no inflation. it was perfect. it was so good. all he had to do is leave it alone. he destroyed it with his green news scam and all of the other all this money that's being thrown out the window. he caused inflation. i sure. as you're sitting there the fact is that his big kill on the black people is the millions of people that he's allowed to come in through the border, they're taking black jobs now and it could be the 18 it could be 19 and even 20 million people. they're taking black jobs and they're taking hispanic jobs. and you haven't seen it yet, but you're going to see something that's going to be the worst in our history. thank you, president biden. >> there was no inflation when i became president. know why economists flat on its back, 15% unemployment. he decimated the economy, absolutely decimated the economy that's why there's no inflation at the time. there were no jobs we provided thousands of millions of jobs for individuals who were involved communities including minority communities. we made sure that they have health insurance. we have covered with the aca has increased. i made sure that they're $8,000 per person and a family get written off in health care. but this guy wants to eliminate that. they tried 50 times. he wants to get rid of the aca again and they're going to try again if they win, we find ourselves in a position where the idea that we're not doing any, i put more we put more police on the street and no administration has he wants to cut the cops we're providing for equity equity and making sure people have a shot to make it. there's a lot going on, but inflation, he caused it by his tremendous mt seasons and the way he handled the pandemic. thank you. another persistent challenge is the climate crisis 2023 was the hottest year in recorded history and communities across the country are confronting the devastating effects of extreme heat intensifying wildfires, stronger hurricanes, and rising sea levels. former president trump, you've vowed to end your opponent's climate initiatives, but will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis? well, let me just go back to what he said about the police, how close the police are to him. almost every police group in the nation from every state is supporting donald j. trump. almost every police group. and what he's done to the black population is horrible, including the fact that for ten years he called them super predators. we can't in the 1990s, we can't forget that super predators was his name. and he called it to them for ten and they've taken great offense at it and now they see it happening. but when they see what i did for criminal justice reform and for the historically black colleges and universities where i funded them and got them all funded. and the opportunity zones with tim, as you know, tim scott was incredibly did a great job, a great senator from south carolina. he came to me with the idea and it was a great idea. it's one of the most successful economic development acts ever in the country, opportunity zones. and the biggest beneficiary are blacks. and that's why we have the best numbers with them maybe ever if they're saying ever i read this morning wherever the best numbers he's lost much of the black population because he's done a horrible job for black people. he's also done a horrible job for hispanics. but why do you see these millions of people pouring into our country and they're going to take the jobs. and it's already started and you haven't seen anything yet. it's a disaster. 38 seconds left, president trump, will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis? so i want absolutely immaculate clean water. and i want absolutely clean air. and we had it we had h2o, we had the best numbers ever. and we did we were using all forms of energy, all forms, everything. and yet during my four years, i had the best environmental numbers ever and my top environmental people gave me that statistic just before i walked on the stage. actually i don't know where the hell he is banned the idea that dana he said is true i've passed the most extensive it was the extensive climate change legislation in history. in history we find ourselves and by the way, black colleges, i came up with $50 billion for hbcus historic black universities and colleges because they don't have they don't have the kind of contributors that they have to build these laboratories and all life any black student is capable in college or doing any white student can do. he just have the money, but now it will be able to get those jobs in high tech. we're in a situation where the idea that he is claiming to have done something that had the cleanest water, the cleanest water. he had not an ad, thing with the environment. he out of the paris peace accord, climate accord, i immediately joined it because if we reach for 1.5 degrees celsius at any one point, well, there's no way back. the only existential threat to humanity is climate change. and he didn't do a thing about it. you must undo all that. i've done the paris accord was going to cost us $1 and china nothing, and russia, nothing, and india, nothing. it was a rip off of the united states and i ended it because i didn't want to waste that money because they treat us horribly. we were the only ones who was costing us money. nobody else was paying into it. and it was it was a disaster but everything that he said just now, i'll give you an example. i heard him say before insulin, i'm the one that got the insulin down for the seniors. i took care of the seniors. what he's doing is destroying all of our medical programs because the migrants coming in, they want everybody and look, i have i have the biggest harb on the stage. i guarantee you that i want to take care of people, but we're destroying our country. they're taking over our schools, our hospitals, and they're going to be taken over social security. he is destroying social security. medicare and medicaid the idea is that we in fact we were the only ones of consequence or not. we're not members of the paris accord how can we do anything? we're not able to, the united states can't get this under control one of the largest polluters in the world, number one, we're making significant progress by 2035, we will have cut pollution in half we have made we have made significant progress we're continuing to make progress. we set up a climate corps, for thousands of young people will learn how to deal with. i'm just like the peace corps. and we're going to we're moving in directions that are going to significantly change the elements of cause of pollution. but the idea that he claims he has the biggest heart up here and he's really concerned about about pollution and about climate. i've not seen any indication of that. by the way, with regard to prescription drugs, one company agreed that they would reduce the price to $35, which i was calling for one voluntarily i made sure every company in the world, every pharmaceutical company, cannot have to pay and by the way so every day, millions of americans struggle just to make ends meet for many older americans, social security provides a critical lifeline president biden, if nothing is done to social security seniors will see their benefits cut in just over ten years. will you name tonight one specific step that you're willing to take to keep social security solvent? yes. make the very wealthy begin to pay their fair share right now everybody making under hundred $70,000 pays 6% a their income, of their paycheck every single time they get a paycheck from the time the first one they get 18-years-old the idea that they're going to i'm not i've been proposing that everybody they pay millionaires pay 1%, 1%. so no one after i would not raise the cost of social security for anybody under $400,000 after that, i begin to make the wealthy begin to pay their fair share by increasing from 1% beyond to be able to guarantee the program for life so you still have 82 seconds left. >> are there any other measures that you think that would be able to help keep social security solvent or is just is that one? >> well, that one enough will keep it solvent, but the biggest thing i'll do if we defeat this man because he wants to give security. he thinks that there's plenty to cut in social security. he's wanting to cut social security and medicare both times and that's what and if you look at the prompt, the program put forward by the house republican caucus that he supports, is in fact, wanting to cut it as well. the idea that we don't need to protect our seniors is ridiculous. we put and by the way american public has greater health care coverage today than ever before. and then they see, as i said, you're in a circumstance where 400,000 people foreign, i'm referring 40 million people would not have insurance because they have a pre-existing condition only allows them to have that insurance is the fact that they in fact are part of the aca and by the way, the other thing is we're in a situation where i talk about education for black communities. i've raised the number, the amount of money for pell grants and other $8,000 for anybody making under $70,000 a year can be able to get $15,000 towards their tuition it's just that nobody's talking about. >> thank you, president biden, president trump. so i've dealt with politicians all my life. >> i've been on this side of the equation for the last eight years i've never seen anybody lie like this guy. he lives a devastating if he could look you in the face so about so many other things too and we mentioned the laptop, we mentioned russia, russia, russia, ukraine, ukraine, ukraine, everything he does is a lie. it's misinformation and disinformation the losers and suckers story that he made up as a total lie on the military. it's a disgrace but social security, he's destroying it because millions of people are pouring into our country and they're putting them on to social security. they're putting them on to medicare medicaid. they're putting them in our hospitals. they're taking the place of our citizens. they're what they're doing to the va, to our veterans is unbelievable. veterans are living in the street and these people hello, living in luxury hotels. he doesn't know what he's doing and it's really coming back. i've never seen such anger in our country before president biden idea that veterans are not being taken care of. >> i told you before, by the way, when i said suckers and losers, he said he acknowledged after that he fired that general. that general got fired because he's the one that acknowledged that. that's what he said. he was the one standing with trump when he said it. number one, number two, the idea that we're going to be in a situation where all these millions and millions the way he talks about illegal aliens are coming into the country and taking away our jobs. there's a reason why we have the fastest-growing economy in the world the reason why we add most successful economy in the world? we're doing better than any other nation in the world and by the way those 15 nobel laureates you talked about being phony us 50 nobel laureates, economists. they all said that if trump is reelected, are likely to have a recession. and inflation is going to increase the go up and by the way, worst president history, 159 presidential scholars voted him the worst president in history. united states america president biden, thank you so much. let's turn to the cost of childcare, which many american families struggle to afford president trump, both you and president biden have tried to address this issue, but the average cost of childcare in this country has risen to more than $11,000 a year per child for many families. the cost of childcare for two children is more than their rent in your second term, what would you do to make childcare more affordable? >> just see you back. the general got fired because he was no good. and if he said that that's why he made it up, but we have 19 people that said i didn't say it and they're very highly respected, much more so than him the other thing is he doesn't fire people he never fired people. i've never seen him fire already, but i did fire a lot. i fired comey because he was no good. i fired a lot of the top people at the fbi drain the swamp. they were no good, not easy to fire people. you'd pay a price for it, but they were no good. i inherited these people. i didn't put him that didn't put comey there. he was no good i fired him. this guy hasn't fired anybody. he'd never first he should have fired every military man that was involved with that afghan the afghanistan horror show, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country he didn't fire. did you fire anybody? did you fire anybody that that's on the border? that's allowed us to have the worst border in the history of the world. did anybody get fired for allowing 18 million people, many from prisons, many from mental institutions did you fire anybody that allowed our country to be destroyed? joe, our country is being destroyed as you and i sit up here and waste a lot of time on this debate. this shouldn't be a debate here's the worst president. he just said about me because i said it. but look, he's the worst president in the history of our country. he's destroyed our country. now all of a sudden he's trying to get a little tough on the border. he come out came out with a i'd, nothing or nothing deal. and it reduced it a little bit, a little bit like this much. it's insignificant. he wants open borders. he wants our country to either be destroyed or he wants to pick up those people as voters and i don't think we just can't let it happen if he wins this election our country if he doesn't have a chance, not even a chance of coming out of this rut we probably won't have a country left anymore. that's how bad it is. he is the worst in history by far. thank you, president trump, president biden we are the most admired country in the world whether united states of america. there's nothing beyond our capacity. we have the finest military in the history of the world. the finest in the history of the world. no one thinks we're weak, no one wants to screw around with us. nobody. number one. number two, the idea that we're talking about worst presidents. i wasn't jokey. look it up or gone why hundred and 59 or 58 don't hold me the exact number. presidential historians, they've had meetings and they voted who's the worst president in american history, one through best to worst. they said he was the worst and all of american history. that's a fact that's not a place not conjecture. he can argue the wrong, but that's what voted the idea that he is knowing do anything to deal with child care. he did very virtually nothing to talk here we should significantly increase the child care tax credit. we should significantly increase the availability of women and men are single parents to be welcome back to work. and we should encourage businesses to hold, to have thank you, president trump. the question was about, what would you do to make childcare more affordable if you want to take your minute, just you understand we have polling, we have other things that they rate him the worst because what he's done is so bad. and they rate me. show you. i wish. and they rate me one of the best. okay. and if i'm given another four years, i will be the best. i think i'll be the best nobody's ever created a economy like us, nobody ever cut taxes like us. he's the only one i know he wants to raise your taxes by four times. he wants to raise everybody's taxes by four times. he wants the trump tax cuts to expire. so everybody including the two of you are going to pay four to five times. nobody ever heard of this before. all my life. i'd grow up and i'd see politicians talking about cutting taxes when we cut taxes. as i said, we did more business, apple and all these companies, they were bringing money back into our country the worst president in history by far. and everybody knows it president biden, look, fact of the matter is that he's dead wrong about he's increased. the tariff. he's increased, he will increase the taxes on middle class people. i said i'd never raise a tax on anybody making less than $400,000 i didn't in this tariff is 10% tariffs. everything coming into the country, you know what economists say. that's going to cost the average american $2,500 a year and more because they're going to have to pay the difference in food and all the things that are very important number two, he's in a situation where he talks about how he is not raised he somehow helped the middle class another class has been devastated by you now you want a new tax cut of $5 over the next ten years, which is going to fundamentally bankrupt the country. you had the largest deficit of any president in american history. number one, number two, you have not in fact made any contact any progress with china. we are the lowest trade deficit with china since 2010 that i can present, you lost a good precedent, but the crown will plus usyk tree at any cost i did not think they would be so eager to die. >> house of the dragon streaming exclusively on max. >> look cockroach, resilient creatures, true miracles of evolution, where there is one, others aren't farber hi oh scavenging for food the 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he gets money from china. we have. so i think he's afraid to deal with him or something but do you notice he never took out my tariffs because we bring in so much money with the tariffs that i imposed on china. he never took them away, can't because it's too much money. it's tremendous. i we saved our steel industries and there was more to come, but he hasn't done that. but he hasn't cut the tariffs because he can't because it's still much money, but he's got the largest deficit sit in the history of our country. and he's got the worst the worst situation with china child is going to own us if you keep allowing them to do what they're doing to us as a country, they are killing us as a country, joe. and you can't let that happen. you're destroying our country so president trump, you have 67 seconds left. the question was, what are you going to do to help americans in the throes of addiction right now, who are struggling to get the treatment they need. >> jake, we're doing very well at addiction until the covid came along. we had the two-and-a-half almost three years of like, nobody's ever had before any country in every way and then we had to get tough and it was the drugs pouring across the border we're it started to increase. we got great equipment. we bought the certain dog that's the most incredible thing that you've ever seen the way they can spot it. we did a lot and we had we were getting very low numbers, very, very low numbers. then he came along the numbers. have you seen the numbers now? it's not only the 18 million people that i believe is even low because the gotaways, they don't even talk about gotaways but the numbers of the amount of drugs and human trafficking in women coming across our border. the worst thing i've ever seen at numbers nobody's ever seen under him because the border is so bad. but the number of drugs coming across our border now is the largest we've ever had by far. president trump thank you, president biden fentanyl. and the byproducts of fentanyl went down for awhile. and i wanted to make sure we use the machinery that can detect fentanyl these big machines that roll over everything that comes across the border and it costs a lot of money. that was part of this deal we put together as bipartisan deal more fentanyl machines, more, more, be able to detect drugs or more of a numbers of agents, more numbers of all the people at the border. and when we had that deal done, he went he called his we republican colleagues, said, don't do it. it's going to hurt me politically now, he never argued it's not a good bill. it's a really good bill. we need those machines. we need those machines, and we're coming down very hard in every country in asia in terms of precursors for fentanyl and mexico is working with us to make sure they don't have the technology to be able to put it together. that's what we have to do. we need those machines thank you, president biden and president trump. >> and again, the question is about americans in the throes of addiction right now struggling to get the treatment they need this because this does pertain to it he ended remain in mexico he ended catch and release. >> i met a catchy release in mexico, not catch and release here. we had so many things that we had done hard negotiations with mexico and i got it all for nothing. it just like when you have a hostage, we always pay 6 billion for every tebor is a hostage now we have a hostage. the wall street journal reporter i think a good guy, and he's over there because putin is laughing at this guy, probably asking for billions of dollars for the reporter, i will have him out very quickly as soon as i take office before i take office, i said by literally, as soon as i win the election, i will have that reporter out. he should have had him out a long time ago, but putin is probably asking for billions and billions of dollars because this guy pays it every time we had two cases, we paid $6 billion for five people. i got 58 people out and i paid essentially nothing. >> thank you, president trump, dana let's turn to concerns that voters have about each of you president biden, you would be 86 at the end of your second term how do you address concerns about your capability to handle the toughest job in the world well into your 80s well, first of all, i spent half my career being criticized, being the youngest person in politics. how is the second youngest person ever elected the united states senate and now i'm the oldest this guy's three years younger and a lot less competent. i think it just look at the record. look what i've done. i've turned around the horrible situation he left me. as i said, 50 million new jobs, 800,000 manufacturing jobs, or investment in america over millions, billions of dollars in private investment and, and enterprises that we are growing we've by the way, we brought awful lot of people the whole idea of computer chips, we said 40% of the market we invented those chips and we lost it because he was sending people to cheap. to find the cheapest jobs overseas and to bring home a product so i went, i went to south korea. i can beat samsung to invest billions of dollars here in the united states and guess what, those fabs they call them to, to build these chips those fabs pay over $100,000. you don't need a college degree for him. and there's billions about $40 already being invested and being built right now in the united states, creating significant jobs for americans all over from all over the world president biden, you have 40 seconds left. would you like to add anything? yeah, i would the idea that somehow we are this failing country i never heard a president talk like this before. we were the nba name me a single major country president who wouldn't trade places with the united states, america for all our problems and all our opportunities we're the most progressive country in the world and getting things done where the strongest country in the world we're country in the world who keeps our word. and everybody trusts us, all of our allies and our op those who he called us up to from kim jong un. we sends love letters to uproot and et cetera they don't want to screw around with us thank you. former president trump to follow up, you would be 82 at the end of your second term. what do you say to voters who have concerns about your capabilities to serve? >> well, i took two tests, cognitive tests, i aced them, both of them as you know? we are bedded public. he took none. i'd like to see him take one just one. a real easy one. like go through the first five questions. he couldn't do it but i took two cognitive tests. i took physical exams every year and you know, we knock on wood wherever we may have wood that i'm in very good health. i just won two club championships, not even senior to regular club championships. to do that, you have to be quite smart and you have to be able to hit the ball along way. and i do it. he doesn't do it. he can't hit a ball 50 yards. he challenged me to a golf match. he can hit a ball 50 yards i think i'm in very good shape. i feel that i'm in good a shape as i was 25, 30 years have actually i'm probably a little bit lighter, but i'm in as good a shape as i was years ago. i feel very good. i feel the same, but i took i was willing to take a cognitive test and you know what if i didn't do well, i aced them dr. ronny jackson, who's great guy when he was white house doctor. and then i took another one, a similar one. and both one of them said they'd never seen anybody ace them. >> thank you. president biden. >> you can see he's six-foot-five and only 220 or firearms are trying to 35 pounds? well, you said six-four, 200 anyway, that's anyway. just take a look at what he says. he is and take a look at what he is. look, i'd be happy to have a driving contest with him. i got my handicap, which when i was vice president down to a six and what by the way, i told you before, i'm happy to play golf. if you carry your own bag thank you. can do it is a six handicap of all. i was eight handicap eight i have you know, how many i've seen your swing. >> i know your swing trump work on one. let's not act like gillman. >> civic concern that voters have about you will you pledge tonight that once all legal challenges have been exhausted, that you will accept the results of this election regardless of who wins and you will say right now that political violence in any form is unacceptable. well, i shouldn't have to say that, but of course, i believe that it's totally unacceptable. >> and if you would see my statements that i made on twitter at the time, and also my statement that i made in the rose garden, you would say it's one of the strongest statements you've ever seen. in addition to the speech i made in front of i believe the largest crowd i've ever spoken to, and i will tell you, nobody ever talks about that. they talk about a relatively small number of people that went to the capitol. and in many cases were ushered in by the police and as nancy pelosi said, it was her responsibility, not mine. she said that loud and clear but the answer is, if the election is fair free, and i want that more than anybody. and i'll tell you something i wish he was a great president because i wouldn't be here right now. i'd be at one of my many places enjoying myself. i wouldn't be under indictment because i wouldn't have been his political appoint you know, opponent because he guided me because i was his opponent i wish she was a great president. i would rather have that. i wouldn't be here. i don't mind being here, but the only reason i'm here is he's so bad as a president that i'm going to make america great again, we're going to make america great again. we're a failing nation right now. we're a seriously failing nation. and we're a failing nation because of him, his policies are so bad his military policies are insane they're insane. these awards that will never end with him he will drive us into world war three and we're closer to world war three then anybody can imagine we are very, very close to world war three. and he's driving us there and kim jong on and president xi of china, kim jong un of north korea. all of these putin, they don't respect them. they don't fear him. they have nothing going with this gentleman and he's going to drive us into world war three three we want a world war three him follow. and when i put and say do what you want me, nato, just do what you want there's a thing called article five, an attack on one is attack on all a required response the idea, the idea, i can't think of a single major leader in the world wouldn't trade place with what job i've done, what they've done because we are powerful nation. we have wonderful piece because of the people, not me, because he's american people. they're capable of anything and they step up when they're needed and right now, we're needed, we're needed to protect the world because our own safety is at stake. again, you want to have war, just let putin go ahead and take kyiv. make sure they move on, see what happens in poland, hungary, and other places along that border then you have a war president trump, as i come back to you for a follow-up, the question was, will you accept the results of this election regardless of who wins? just to finish what he said, if i might russia, they took a lot of land from bush. they took a lot of land from obama and biden they took no land, nothing from trump, nothing he knew not to do it not going to play games with me. he knew that i got along with him very well, but he knew not to play games. he took nothing from me but now he's going to take the whole thing from this man right here. that's a war that should have never started. it would've never started, ever with me and he's going to take ukraine. add u.s. for your question before would you do this with he's got us in such a bad position right now with ukraine and russia because ukraine's not winning that war. he said, i will never settle until such time. they're running out of people, they're running out of soldiers, they've lost so many people. it's so sad they've lost so many people and they've lost those gorgeous cities with the golden domes that are 1,000-years-old. all because of him and stupid decisions russia would've never attacked the question was, will you accept the results of the election regardless of who wins? >> yes or no, please. >> if it's a fair and legal and good election, absolutely. i would have much rather accepted these but the fraud and everything else was ridiculous that if you want, we'll have a news conference on it in a week, or we'll have another one of these on in a week but i will absolutely. there's nothing i'd rather do. it would be much easier for me to do that then i'm running again. i wasn't really going to run until i saw the horrible job he did. he's destroying our country. i would be very happy to be someplace else in a nice location, someplace. and again, no indictments no political opponents stuff, because it's the only way he thinks he can win but unfortunately it's driven up by numbers and driven of up to a very high level because the people understand it let's see what your numbers are when this election is over. let's see, you're a whiner when you lost the first time. you see, you continued to appeal and appeal to courts all across the country. not one single court in america said, any of your claims had any merit. state or local, none but you continue to provoke this lie about somehow there's all this miss misrepresentation, all the stealing, there's no evidence of that at all. and i tell you what, i doubt whether you'll accept it because you're such a whiner the idea if you lose again, you're accepting anything. you can't stand the loss, something snapped in, you would net loss last time we'll be right back with more from the cnn presidential debate live from georgia every weekday morning. 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we're going to begin with you, president biden. you have two minutes we've made significant progress from the debacle that was left by president trump last time. >> we find ourselves in a situation where number one we have to make sure that we have a fair tax system. i ask anyone out there in the audience, i really went out and watching this debate. do you think the tax system is fair? the fact is that i said, nobody even making under $400,000 had a single penny increasing their taxes and it will not. and if i'm reelected, that'll be the case again. but this guy is has increased your taxes because of the deficit. number one, he's increased inflation because of the debacle he left after when he handled pandemic and he finds himself in a position where he now wants to tax you more by putting a 10% tariff on everything comes into nine states, america what i did when for example, he wants to get away with and get rid of the ability of medicare to for the ability for us to be able to 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