historic presidential debate, the ground has shifted the rematch between president joe biden and former president donald trump. are correspondence or follo following the high anxiety within the biden camp right now in the celebrations within the trump team. first, let's get our lead science. she's reporting on the president's rocky performance and his attempts to rebound knocked down, you get back out. >> president joe biden in north carolina, attempting a major reset after his debate against former president donald trump. one democratic lawmakers telling cnn, biden's performance was a disaster. >> i know i'm not a young man i don't. tibet debate as well as i used well, i know what i do know i know how to tell the truth on the campaign trail, the president fiery and his attacks against his rival donald trump was charged democracy, i will defend it a stark contrast from biden's showing at cnn's presidential until debate, which has sent biden's advisers scrambling behind the scenes to come. >> democratic panic after moments like this. making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what i've been able to do. it the covid excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with look if we finally beat medicare. well, he's right. he did beat medicare, beat it to death. and donald trump seizing on biden's struggles, i wrote, don't know what he said at the end of their sentence, would i don't think he knows what he said either, even as he made multiple false claims, hedged, yet again, when asked directly if he would accept the results of this year's election, if it's a fair and legal and good election, absolutely. i would have much rather accepted these, but the fraud, i doubt whether you'll accept it because you're such a whiner. >> but those moments overshadowed by biden's shaky demeanor and delivery midway through the debate, aids explained in his hoarse voice was the result of a cold. now, the campaign facing questions about what comes next for the 81-year-old president. >> are they going to stick by him or are they going to come with pitchforks despite the slip-ups, many top democrats defending biden. >> yes. there was a slow start, but it was a strong finish. this election. and who is the president of the united states has to be about substance and the contrast is clear. former president barack obama writing bad debate nights happen. trust me, i know, but this election is still a choice between someone who has fought for ordinary folks his entire life and someone who only cares about himself. but in private, some democrats, lesser shirt, questioning whether biden should remain at the top of the ticket. biden's team spent part of the day calling donor there's an lawmakers trying to ease concerns when adviser telling cnn, quote we are in a dark place, but we're moving forward that path forward is ultimately up to biden himself, who so far has shown no signs of back in down by getting my words a biden, i would not be running again if i didn't believe with all my heart and soul, i can do this job now, president biden is now here in new york city. >> he first made a stop at the stonewall national monument and historic sites in the gay rights movement in a few hours, the president will attend a fundraiser with lgbtq supporters and it comes at a time when the biden campaign is at least tried to point to one bright spot from last night and that relates to their fundraising, biden campaign official said that they brought in 14 million can dollars on debate day. and this morning something that they're hoping will show some support from the grassroots fundraising community. but all of this comes as president biden i didn't certainly in the coming days and weeks will continue to face questions about his campaign, his path forward as he's hoping to face off against donald trump, his campaign advisers as he does plan to debate trump again in september, and that there are no plans for the president to drop out of the race or let stand by. i want to bring and see it as kristen holmes, right? because she's covering donald trump's post debate rally today. kristie, the former president, sees done. president biden's performance during his campaign event, just a little while ago in virginia. tell us about it. >> this is the first time that we had seen him actually react to the debate. we had heard from senior advisers who had worked to paint biden as week get an old and senile, i'd saying that they were celebrating the fact that they believe donald trump one. now obviously we won't know who photo. won the debate unless we see this from voters, but that is how donald trump's team is characterizing last night. now, here is how trump himself talked about the despite the fact that crooked joe biden spent the entire week at camp david resting working studying, he studied very hard. >> he studied so hard that he didn't know what the hell he was doing he got to debate rules that he wanted he got the date that he wanted he got the network that he wanted with the moderate. she wanted no amount of rest or read again, could help him defend his atrocious record now, i do want to point out that he talked about biden defending his quote, unquote roche's record. >> he actually didn't talk about biden's performance and the kind of detail that is senior advisers did in fact, at one point, he said that it wasn't about age, was about mental competency. we know the donald trump himself is sensitive about the conversation about age because he's just not much younger than president joe biden. the other thing that trump said was that he didn't believe biden was going to draw about of the race. he believed he was going to stay entity actually said that he thought that because he holes higher than other democrats whose names were currently being floated. but it clearly plead well, they were taking a victory lap today and that will likely continue into the weekend. yeah. >> i suspect you're right. kristen holmes and our left signs to both of you. thank you very much. let's get two more right now with our political experts who've been watching all of this. megan hayes, let me start with you. biden got the rules. he wanted, but he clearly the view of a lot of folks out there, including many democrats, he failed to meet the moment in this debate. so what happens now? >> okay, i think that he show what happened sound right. he had a bad night last night today, he went out. he was very strong, who is very clear, he owned the fact that it wasn't a great performance for him and he moved on. he's that he's doing fundraising. he's at stonewall today. he's back out on the campaign trail. he is not hiding from this and he we'll move on and show the american people why they need to reelect him. >> sarah matthews, you think trump actually won this debate or did biden simply lose it i i think that because we're talking about biden's poor performance, obviously it's clear that it was a disastrous night for the biden campaign and we should be talking about the fact that donald trump, when asked three separate times if he would accept the results of the 2024 election. >> he said he deflected, he wouldn't give a straight answer on it. and we know that because donald trump only except selections that he wins, as evidenced by 20 2020. but what is frustrating for me as i do think that this is an inflection point for the democrats in the biden campaign. look, it wasn't just one bad night. i think that for the millions of americans who tuned in it confirm their worst fears about biden that he wasn't up to the job to serve another four years. i look, i believe he's a good man and i believe that he has been a good president. i really do because he came at this time when we so desperately needed him but right now, it's looking like to me as someone who believes that democracy is on the line. as i know, a lot of other democrats also believe that biden might need to pass the baton. and i think that there needs to be conversations within the democratic party about it. and the fact that all of the these democrats are falling in line and saying, oh, it's just one bad night. i mean, it rings a little hollow to me when they criticize republicans for not condemning donald trump in his own fitness. and i call out their cowardice on that, but i'm going to do the same now for democrats when i think this is a conversation that needs to be had and we don't have the ratings by the way, for the debate last night where the 50 million americans were watching this debate. this cnn debate melania zona, you cover capitol hill for us. how are democrats on the hill reacting to it? >> yeah, it was a gloomy day on capitol hill this morning. look, democrats are standing by president biden right now. no one is called on him to step aside. but privately, i can tell you there is a level of panic that has started to release set in as these questions began to percolate about whether he should remain the nominee and who could possibly replace them. and i think last night was a wake-up call for a lot of democrats. they saw trump on the stage. they believe he's a threat to democracy. they saw that in full force with the number of falsehoods that he was saying his refusal to accept the results. but at the same time, they saw biden and their competence is diminishing that he is going to be able to defeat trump in november. and also they're concerned about now this having an impact all up and down the ballot for democrats and caldwell, the wash your posters with us as well. leanne, democratic leaders clearly are standing by the president lease right now. is there anything you think would change that? >> we're going to have to look at polling that's going to be a big thing if the polling drops precipitously for president biden, that's going to be huge issue. i've been talking to democratic members of congress, senators and donors all day and last night it was freak out mode today. they're trying to say that. okay. this was maybe just one bad night. let's see what happens next. it but if the next shoe drops, then it's could be very bad for the what i hear you saying is if the pole members for biden really go down between now and the democratic convention in chicago, there could be an uproar in chicago and maybe somebody else would emerge is the nominee. is that what i'm hearing? i mean, there could be there's all sorts of the talking and a strategizing that's happening right now. >> there's conversation since there's text messages where people are really trying to figure out what to do next. i remember biden is not the nominee yet as you well know, he will be the nominee in chicago if that's what happens, if that's what the party chooses, and if that's what president biden chooses but people are quite worried at this point meghan, hey, you think there is some party leaders, democratic party leaders, who are willing to have that conversation with the president about possibly considering stepping down. >> if that's going to really hurt the democratic nominee and and maybe get trump elected. >> i think that there are party leaders are willing to have that conversation. but again, the president knows that he did not have a good night. he owned that today in raleigh. so i don't think that that conversation actually needs to be we had i think that he realizes what he needs to do. this is not the first time he has had a bad debate. he is a fighter, he is an underdog. he's one of the most resilient people out there. so he you know, he is very aware and if he feels he is not up to the task, he would've stepped down. that is not what he's telling people and that's not what he he has telegraphing. i would not worry that the party leaders aren't going to step in. i think they would step in if they really felt it was a problem, but i just don't think that they're there yet. >> there'll be we're looking at the poll numbers. i'm sure absolutely. you treat darwin the convention, sarah the former president barak obama, he's weighing in and he wrote this bad debate nights happen. trust me, i know. but this election is still a choice between someone who has fought for ordinary folks his entire life, and someone who only cares about himself so what do you think is there something bigger going on here? >> i mean, he's right, the stakes could not be higher in this election. and i've said publicly that i will vote for joe biden even after last nice to disastrous performance i'll still be voting for him. but my god, if democrats put up any other candidate to run against donald trump, they would win easily, but with joe biden, they're rolling the dice. and i think there's too much at stake. and i think it's irresponsible of these top democrats look, they're texting people like melanie, telling them their worst fears, but they're not willing to go on and say these things public and i think that if one top democrat came out and said this, what they're all saying privately, then maybe the dam would break and then others would follow suit and join. but it's it's just sad because this is how joe biden should be going out in the shouldn't be his legacy. i understand that this is humiliating for him. probably, but at the end of the day, we need to be doing all we can ensure to win. we need to be doing all that we can to ensure that donald trump does not step foot in the oval office. and at this point, it seems like he would win in a landslide in november million. >> let me follow up because we're getting some breaking news just coming into the situation room right now. we're learning that the new york times editorial board is now calling on president biden to step down. >> i mean, the new york times also endorsed several people during the democratic primary and 2020. so i don't hold a lot of stock and what they're saying this is the president's is what has to be the one to decide this, right? the delegates already pledged to him. you would be all these people would have to revote and primaries. it would just would not be good for democracy in general, the president would have to be the one to decide this. the president said today very forcefully, but that's not what he's gonna do. he's made a very fulsome argument of contrast between him and former president trump, president former president trump lied over 30 times last night. and the debate that is just, it's we're just glossing over the fact that he was saying wildlife last night because joe biden had a bad night. like, i just think that we all need to take a breath and then we need to get back to work as the democratic party and get behind the person that we are nominating, how big of a deal and there's this, the york times editorial board now saying, trump, the excuse me, biden should drop up. >> well, i think like megan is probably not going to have a lot of impact with voters, but what it will do, it will have a lot of impact with perhaps people democrats and the democratic elite and ecosphere who are concerned about biden and do want him to step aside and it's happening, melanie, the time when biden is now in new york and tonight he's got some fundraisers with some major democratic supporters out there tonight and the new york times is now saying it's time for biden to go, right, people who probably read the new york times, it's not just the voters he's going to have to assuage the donors. >> he's going to have to switch democratic lawmakers that will heal that he is up for the job. i think obama coming out was probably not going to do a lot with voters, but i do think that is going to have a big impact on democratic officials and lawmakers who are looking for some guidance, looking to the democratic leadership about how to respond to this, how they should be framing this, how should they be? thinking about this? but certainly the new york times, i tried is not something that democrats want to be seeing right now. >> deal of 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struggled to explain what he would accomplish in a second term. he struggled to respond to mr. trump's provocations. he struggled to hold mr. trump accountable for his lies failures, and as chilling plans more than once he struggled to make it to the end of a sentence. let's discuss this in more with the national co-chair of the biden campaign and a good friend of the president, senator chris coons have delaware senator. thanks so much for joining us. first of all, what's your reaction to this powerful call from the new york times editorial? bored to call for biden to step aside well, thanks for a chance to be on wolf. >> it's sure has been along an interesting day with lots of different pundits and editorials giving their opinions. but frankly, what the american people saw today in raleigh, where joe biden gave a roaring campaign speech to a rally, was the president that we have the president that we deserve, and the president that we need. he was direct. he said, look, i didn't have my best night last night. i know that i'm not as sharp on the debate stage as i was before. but i know how to tell the truth and i know how to get things done and i can understand why he struggled with the torrent of lies that donald trump told last night. joe biden has been a remarkable president. and i wish the new york times would give him more credit for that. we've got the stock market and an all time high unemployment at an all-time low, longest it been this low ever drug prices coming down and energy production going up. we are in a very strong place as a country at home and abroad. and joe biden's the leader who's gotten that done. he's going to run for reelection and i'm confident he's going to win. but senator, given the danger of a second trump presidency, has democrat see it? why wouldn't the president at least consider stepping aside for the sake of the country if it looks like he's going to lose to trump look i trust that joe biden is weighing carefully the consequences of a trump second presidency. nobody knows more clearly, more directly than joe biden, who had to clean up the ungodly mess that was left behind donald trump's mishandling of the pandemic, his shredding of our alliances and partnerships around the world. the ways in which he left behind a wreck of an economy and a nation deeply divided all of that is what joe biden are president has worked tirelessly to address just last month? our economy created more jobs in one month than in the entire four years of donald trump's presidency. and no president has presided over an economy that created 15 million jobs, just joe biden. so he knows what the risks are. and today we'll the supreme court, yet again, issue the landmark decision overturning a 40-year-old precedent. that's a reminder that the conservative majority on the supreme court that overturned roe versus wade two years ago is hard at work reshaping the law in a conservative direction. so when joe biden thinks about his performance last night, he is taking seriously the risks, but man, you saw on the debate state he's the man you saw, give a rally speech today, is quite different from the man we saw on the debate stage last night. everybody has a bad night every now and then. every major league players strikes out when they step up to bat. but he is a capable and competent president that's what we saw in his speech on the beach at normandy, just last month. that's what we'll see this coming month at the nato 75th summit. those of us who worked with him day in and day out, her know that he is sharp, pain rally he gave today was very reassuring to lots of concern folks. center. i want to read another part from this new york times editorial i've just been released, and this is a direct quote the clearest path for democrats to defeat a candidate defined by his lies is to deal truthfully with the american public acknowledged that mr. biden can't continue as race and create a process to select someone more capable to stand in his place to defeat mr. trump in november, close quote your reaction to that well, look, i've gotten a lot of texts today from folks who watched a lot of west wing episodes and imagine a very complex path through which we might have a robust primary process but well, you know the reality there's four months left to the presidential election. i don't know how the new york times imagines that between now and our convention, we're going to have a wide open, robust national debate about who ought to be our next president? when we've got a president who has accomplished so much in just three years and who i saw on a stage today in raleigh, giving a forceful capable, visionary frankly, speech about his optimism for the country going forward. let remind you one other sharp contrast between joe biden and donald trump. joe biden's vice president, kamala harris, who was on all the show's last night, is clear and engaging donald trump's former vice president refuses to endorse him. is someone who served alongside him for four years and says, he does doesn't belong anywhere near the real the white house situation room so i think the contrast is sharp. president biden's clear about the consequences. and i'm optimistic that we're going to see when he debates donald trump again, this fall that he's fully up to this job. >> but as you know, senator, questions about president biden's fitness i've been swirling for awhile. why should americans believe it was just a bad night rather than evidence of something more troubling well look what they ought. to believe is what they see, with their eyes and they here with their ears and they read week after week after week, when he gives strong speeches, strong performances, when he's able to deliver landmark legislation from the state of the union speech back in january, which was 90 minutes of a commanding performance to record legislation he signed into law helping our veterans combatting gun crime reducing prescription drug prices he's got a record to run on that's very strong. >> i understand and respect the many folks who've reached out to me and who i'm sure have reached out to you with concerns about last night's debate performance it was not his strongest showing, but his record is like deep and he has a long history of being counted out only to come roaring back. i was part of politics as well as you when barack obama had a very bad first debate performance in his reelection campaign, i'll remind you it was joe biden, who in the vice president it will debate what paul ryan and turn things around and helped lay the groundwork for barak obama being reelected. my own colleague john fetterman, reminded all of us on twitter today that he had a terrible debate performance against meadows and everyone counted him out yet he came back and won decisively by five points i'm optimistic that's what's going to happen here as well. well, senator, you mentioned vice president kamala harris. she repeatedly last night, dodge de anderson cooper's questions about whether the biden we saw in the debate is who he is every day. what's your answer to that? because you know him well i do and i was just in europe for a few days where the g7 summit was held in italy leaders from across europe who've met with him and worked with him, say the same thing that i'll tell you from working with him and meeting with him. he has sharpened engaged his cognitive capabilities are as good as ever yes. his gait has a little bit of a shuffle to it. sometimes he speaks a little softly, but his abilities for leadership, for surrounding himself without standing people and mike making the right choice for the american people. that is undimmed and frankly, his record is one of the strongest of any president in my lifetime senator chris coons have delaware. >> thanks so much for joining us thank you. >> woke let's continue the breaking news right now. the new york times editorial board, once again, calling for president biden to drop out of the race. cnn political director david chelyan, his journey putting us on the phone right now, david, this is a big deal. give us your reaction eight. >> no doubt a big deal. this is part of what is a moment for joe biden wolfe in his 52 year career in politics on the national stage that he has never experienced before this kind of political pressure that is being applied. now from editorial boards as prominent as the new york times, from the donor class, from party stalwarts inside the democratic party. elected officials. there is this growing bores of political pressure all of which we should note may amount to nothing because joe biden is likely to a hold his own counsel here rely on his wife or closest family members in any kind of introspection of this moment but that isn't going to stop this pressure from mounting. and i know that some people may look at this and say, hey, this is just an editorial board of a newspaper but this is an editorial board of a newspaper that joe biden pays attention to. and so it is not is not by accident that the new york times is sort of delivering this and just doing it as their own opinion hear from their editorial board, it is a clear letter basically, two joe biden to call him to this moment and see if according to them he will reconsider as candidacy. because as the editorial board puts it, well, they believe that is the surest path to defeating donald trump that joe biden being the nominee is no longer the democratic party's sure just path the diffusion donald trump and obviously the liberal new york times editorial board is opposed to donald trump's candidacy was strongly opposed to trump by the headline, the editorial board of the new york times headline simply this to serve his country, president biden should leave the race. david, those are very strong words for the new york times. i'm sure words that the president never expected to hear from the new york times i can't imagine just personally what a bruising moment this is for the president. obviously, you saw him put on a strong face today when he was in raleigh, north carolina earlier today. now, tonight, new york and fundraisers, he's going to face some of this donor class crowds oh, that's been very alarmed in the last 24 hours. are their concern has ratcheted up since the debate last night but whether or not joe biden is going to sort of just like put his head down and try to move through this moment or actually take this moment to do some introspection here remains to be seen. the campaign is clearly going to wait for some more polling to come out to assess just if there is significant negative movement for the president because of the debate in this race, they will continue to assess whether money may dry up if donors really do sort of close their wallets and say they're no longer going to donate to joe biden these are the kinds of metrics that a campaign will be constantly assessing over the next week or two. but for joe biden personally, someone who over his 50 years in washington has very much looked to the new york times editorial page as as a place of insight or direction a place worsened listening to. this is going to hit hard of whether or not it actually causes them to rethink this. you will note in the editorial wealth as well the new york times editorial board doesn't just call on joe biden though they hey, this is his decision. it calls them the democratic party. and democratic supporters like chris coons, we were just talking to another's that have been with joe biden and perhaps in the editorial boards sense of this, perhaps maybe protecting joe biden that now it may be time for some democratic party leaders to have a very honest conversation with joe biden exploring the potential of maybe he is not the strongest person to be at the top of the ticket heading into what joe biden says is an election that american democracy and its continuation relies on. the times was making the argument, the editorial board is that it is that very argument that brings them to this moment of calling him step aside because they agree with him that the stakes are that high and they think that he's remaining on the top of the democratic ticket, could perhaps be a path for donald trump to get re-elected at this point after last night's performance, the stakes, david, as you correctly pointed out, are so enormous right now and my own senses i'm actually it's good your sense with a final thought. dave, if the polls show going into the democratic convention, not too far down the road in chicago, that trump is way ahead of president by going into the convention in the polls aid you think biden himself may decide it's time to move on and let someone else be the nominee. or if the democrats who are gathering at the convention decided to nominate someone else you ask such a good question. well, right now, i just want to say and if we have no evidence that joe biden is reconsidering his run for president yet, there's no evidence of that, that he's actually heating this call from the new york times are some others today but because this is all happening before he is the officially selected nominee of the party, you are right to note the convention will gather in august in chicago. i have a hard time seeing if joe biden remains a candidate, how the convention sort of prize the nomination away from him. however, if what are these next week, he does decide to leave this race. it will be those convention of delegates that we'll have the power to choose a nominee moving forward because the primary season, of course, is over. so voters, democratic primary voters will no longer be part of that process we'll see what happens as the democratic convention in chicago. david chelyan, thanks very, very much. i want to go back to our white house correspondent arlette saenz said, she's covering the president she's in new york right now. with the president. so how's it going to land with the biden inner circle, this statement from the new york times that it's time for the president to drop out given the debate last night while, while four still waiting for comment from the biden campaign relating to this new new york times editorial board at column saying that the president should step aside in this race. a president biden right now, is that his hotel here in new york city, waiting to go to a fundraiser a little but later this afternoon or evening with supporters from the lgbtq community. but this new york times editorial board column does come at a time. when there has been so much nx coming from democratic circles after president biden's performance at the debate last night, the question is whether that democratic gangs, whether for a call like this in a major newspaper that is read around the country and around the world. frankly, will have any weight with president biden or his inner circle who are advising him? at this time, president biden and his team do pay attention to the new york times and are aware of the wide breadth of their reach. but it does. i think further there are cement some of the democratic anxieties i have been playing out behind closed doors about the president's performance last night so far this morning, earlier today, when the president so it was in north carolina, you really saw him trying to attempt to have this reset in his campaign of being much more fiery on the campaign rally stage when he was on the debate stage as he was going after trump, but also acknowledging his own fault in that performance, saying that he knew that it was a bad night, that the he knows that he's not the same data are not the same as in the past, but trying to make his argument to voters that he's still well-intentioned. a question is how that will play in voters minds? in the coming days and weeks as this race is shaping up. now, one thing i will note that's interesting relating to the r times the biden campaign is that there was quite a bit disdain from the biden campaign back in 2020. you'll remember that the new york times editorial board had endorsed two other democratic candidates over joe biden. that is something that the campaign really had pushed back on at the time. and instead was highlighting the fact that there was a security guard at the new york times who had been captured in in this viral video with biden saying that she supported him. they were trying to play this as new york times versus the voters will see if that's a tactic that they take today. but today it's under much different circumstances as they are our calls privately from sound and the democratic party raising questions about whether biden should step aside. so far the campaign hey, saying that there are no plans to change course in this race, the president remains at the top of the democratic ticket. but we'll see how that unfolds in the coming days and weeks and especially there's more pressure that's being placed on the president and his team garland science covering the president in new york once again, the headline in the new york times editorial page to serve his country president biden should leave the race strong words from the new york times seen as tom foreman is joining us, right? >> dayana taking, taking a closer look at whether that's even a possibility, tom, what would it take to replace president biden on the democratic ticket? well, wolf primaries have been held. >> delegates committed president biden is the presumptive nominee for the democratic party. make no mistake about that short of a true health crisis, about the only way he loses that slot is as david charlie and noted if he agrees to step aside but even then the process of replacing him would be full of uncertainty democrats could work it out of their convention in august. the way political parties used to, various names would be put forward most likely the more than 3,900 delegates from across the country would discuss debate and eventually decide on a new candidate. all of them right now, almost all of them are currently pledged to biden, by the way, and approved by his campaign but what if they can't agree on a new choice if he gets really nasty and grinds on well, then maybe the additional roughly 700 or so superdelegates deep-seated party insiders and elected officials could be key to settling the matter they normally cannot vote on the first ballot for president if it would change the nominee. but they could vote on subsequent ballots. that's when we'd hear an awful lot about them. but that raises another series of questions if that scenario played out would voters who took part in primaries field pushed aside and alienated from the party if a new nominee was chosen in this manner would a new choice be able to mount an effective campaign? and the roughly ten weeks from the end of the convention until election day. and for example, would donald trump agree to debate a fresh face at that late date and who would be the choice? there will be several big names that could likely be considered, but not until the party decides how it feels about vice president kamala harris plenty of democratic voters and party leaders would see her as the natural heir to the nomination. and if she is not chosen, her disappointed supporters could also become a deep problem. for the. party in november for now, biden's advisors and other top democrats are pushing back as we've heard in the show already, there, pushing back on the whole idea of him dropping out but that talk keeps elbowing in and even more now will very sensitive moment right now, tom. form. and thank you very much for that explanation coming up. a major decision today from the u.s supreme court with a mix of liberal and conservative justices giving a win to a convicted january 6 rioter. and in turn, maybe even to donald trump my fourth, cnn concert event with performance by keith urban, ashanti, bb wrexham, the killers, and many more all right then america. >> thursday, july 4, 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