my mom. you're disappointing, dr. strasburg, where i once as soon as caitlin show starts. all right. harrington. thanks. have a great week and the new source starts now straight from the source tonight, a crisis of confidence at the supreme board as we await several rulings that could hit like an earthquake, including immunity for donald trump, a major new decision just released has predicts up in arms conspiracy theory sheriff's alex jones order to liquidate his assets to pay up a 1.5 billion you sandy hook families over a mountain of lives, but he still gets to keep his microphone for now. >> now, plus a new photo and new update from catherine princess of wales on her battle with cancer. she says she's not out of the woods yet, but will make her first public appearance. >> since, her diagnosis and just a few hours i'm jim acosta and for kaitlan collins. >> and this is the source we have been waiting and waiting on a slew of major decisions from the supreme court. and one is now in tonight, it's a loss for the gun control movement. a lot more on that and moments, but all eyes have been on the court for months now. and public trust in the justices is at an all time low, growing ethics scandals only fuel cooling the scrutiny. justice alito blaming his wife or an upside down flag, a symbol of election denialism displayed outside his home. justice thomas, failing to disclose even more luxury trips paid for by texas billionaire. the list goes on. there's also a precession out there that the court may be running out, the clock, running it down to the last possible second on donald trump's immunity decision, a decision that we're still waiting on as clock has ever closer to the debate that conventions the fall campaign and the election. meantime, the possibility that democrats might lose both the presidency and the senate in november have some voices on the left. now, publicly nudging liberal justices sonia sotomayor, and elana kagan, two retired doing so would pave the way for president biden to a point younger justices now who could remain on the court for decades to come, biden says, he thinks that next president could appoint more than one justice guess what? the next president, they're going to be able to appoint a couple of justices. if in fact, we're able to change some of the justice when they retire and put it really progressive judges, like we've always had tell me that won't change your life when just jump, justices are already getting voting rights it's overturning roe decimating affirmative action is so much more elections have consequences. >> the future direction of the supreme court could be at stake, probably very much is at stake leading us off tonight, known trump critic and conservative attorney who has argued in front of the supreme court, george conway and republican strategy just sure. michael singleton, gentlemen, great to see on this friday night thanks as always, george. i mean, we just went down the list alito with the flags and thomas with the trips and we saw we heard the audio clips this week that had folks wondering what's going on with these justices we can. show poll after poll that shows confidence in the court. it's if it's not an all time low, it's pretty close to it what the heck's going on and do you trust the court right now on this immunity decision that's coming down the pike, everybody thought that might come today. >> we're still waiting. i'll start with the last question first, i do. yes. the court on this, i think the court i think donalds trump is going to lose. i think he's going to lose big. there may be a few wrinkles in the opinion of that. may add a few steps to the process, but at the end of the de, i don't think his argument is going to fly in terms of delay. i wish they had not taken the case. i wish they had decided that it once before, but the fact of the matter is i don't think there is some grand conspiracy or even an effort by some of the justices to put this off to help trump back in the matter is if decision comes down june 20 june 24th, the week of june 20 for last week of the term. that could mean that the case goes to trial in the middle of september at the end of september, beginning of october, which could be highly unfavorable you yes. because well, the reason is because when the case first went up to the court of appeals there were 81 day it was 81 days before trial. and if you and the court has said, basically the district court said that it's going to keep that at one day schedule. and if you add anyone days, the end of june, you basically get that. they'll heat the middle of the fall campaign. >> so it could actually backfire on trump. but that said, i mean, i don't think i think this bring questions being the supreme court, they this is one of the most important decisions that they will render in a long time. i think they didn't have to take the case. i think that the dc circuit had it right. but once they took the case, they want to get it right. and they want to make sure every jot and tittle of it is correct pectin they made now it's like seven. it's like nine separate law firms. they're it's hard to heard them all and you egos involved, there might be, yeah it's going to take till the energy. it's always watch and sure. >> michael, i mean, george with a very reasonable, rational view on all of this given the court the benefit out, a lot of folks don't wanna do that these days justice thomas, taking these undisclosed lavish trips, we've just heard about more about them. this week. flying on private jets. justice alito had an election denialism symbol hanging outside the house. he was talking about that with with this liberal activist who went in there with a film crew not too long ago. >> folks or folks are kind of at these guys. look, they're with the supreme court, they're with congress, both the house and senate. there's a lot of anger and nx from the american people with our elected anna unelected leader here's, i do think george's write the supreme court is going to make a consequential decision here in the ramifications of this decision will potentially be felt for decades for presidential administrations to come. we should not want to rush this regardless of where you may fall on the side of this i do agree with george. he's a lawyer here, but it was always an uphill battle. this idea of complete immunity, i think most people can understand some immunity for the executive to make very tough and consequential decisions without fear of retribution from congress or district attorney's, et cetera. but the idea of a divine right of kings type theory. george is something every that's going to get an hour down. that's going to get out. >> and that's one of the questions that a lot of people have right now about the supreme court, is that not sure if you heard today? today is donald trump's 78th birthday, george, i don't know if you send them a card, but we hear a lot about the candidates ages in this race, but the ages of several supreme court justices put this up on screen. justice thomas, 75 this is alito 74, justice roberts, 69 justice sotomayor 69 justice kagan, 64. george, do you still like the idea that they can have these lifetime appointments that they could just, you know, we're getting justices now appointed in their 40s and 50s, like around my age, were just kind of nutty to think somebody might just not the supreme court michael might feel the same, but i'm 33 sorry, sorry. >> i was saying 60. these are these are spring chicken justice kagan, she's just she's just she's like she's a teenager. >> what about this pressure that sort of my aura and kagan should think about stepping down. >> now, look at the composition of the court. i look i mean, i understand why the democrats feel that way, because they had ruth bader ginsburg, who was at three in 2016, had previously had pancreatic cancer and previously had colon cancer, had been in our hospitals for the prior 17 years or so. i understand how they feel they lost a seat. the democrats lost the seat because of that 5-4 court, what could be a 5-4 could have it, right. >> i mean, but that's why we have amy coney barrett and so i think that you're not going to get justice kagan or justice sotomayor. they are much too young, to quit at this point. they are i mean, i kagan i don't know that she has any health issues. sottile my or may have some but they're still young, they still got a few years before anyone would expect them to retire. and you're just not going to these are all type a personalities. these are people who want to do their job that they've been appointed to. it's a lifetime appointment and it's it's hard to get them to resign. and i think it's i think it's unreal the listing to be trying to pressure them to quit. majority. i think i think some of the concern from democrats though is what if president biden doesn't went in november, right? and president trump will more than likely get justice thomas, justice alito, and maybe a third justice, which i'm sure scares the heck out of democrats. >> what sotomayor steps down during a second trump administration possible, you get a the ruth bader ginsburg scenario all over again. >> and then progressive thing, okay, for a generation you're not really going to get balance on the court unless something sort of remarkable happened. i think they felt that they got burned by ruth bader ginsburg, unfortunately, but she i mean, she achieved amazing. she made it to 87 incredible term limits should the return on us. >> well, i mean, yes, i do think well, let me let me be very precise on this. you cannot turn limit justices and judges. article three judges. and so on there it could be possible to structure a system whereby each you appoint a new justice every couple of years as this has been talked about. >> then you have the supreme court sit in panels of less than its total complement, which is what happens in the us courts of appeals. i don't think that would be a bad system. i think you can create a system that encourages justices to take what's called senior status in the way that in the way that the courts appeal, judges do. >> and you'd end up with younger people on the court and you'd end up with younger panels of nine city and then you'd have a, you'd have a few more senior justices who could sit in when when people recuse themselves, it wouldn't be a bad system. >> it would i think one of the positive effects would be that you'd have confirmation hearings that. were probably less contentious and then just to throw another kind of reminds me of the old joke. what's the difference between god and a federal judge god does not think he's a federal judge. but anyway, but the other flip side of this elaborate god's job, i don't have to figure out we're going to talk about that later as a matter of fact it's going to show the popi was talking with some comedians. but anyway and that's not a joke that they walked into a bar or something like that, but sure. michael, the flip side of that is if if joe biden wins reelection and the republicans take the senate. you could have a whole other scenario or merge where president biden is unable to put justices on the supreme court because the senate just says, you know what, we're not going to do this. like that tradition out the window too. i can tell you this if president biden wins the election, unless say there's a justice are two who decides to step down and maybe some health or illness it takes them off of the court. >> i would be surprised if republicans allow an appointment to move forward. >> i think they would mcconnell's. i think they'd find any type of senate rule possible to say we want wait until there was republican president, even if that means waiting until 2028, george, i don't know what the rules are for this. if there was someone missing from the court, but i just i don't see the appetite at least within the republican base that will thus put pressure on republican officials. said, we don't want this. and i think those officials would add here to the vocal critiques of their voters what do you think george probably so and it will be terrible, terrible thing for the courts if, if they basically left the left the seat open for four years and it will be a supreme court function with one or two missing justices, i suppose it could it could, but it wouldn't be functioning well and it would it would further harm of the funk authorities, and the functioning of the court. >> it would be a terrible thing for the court. yeah and she michael last thing before we go, there was this decision that came out of the court today on bump stocks. what was your reaction to that? >> i mean, i think the court made the right decision. justice thomas authored this ruling just as he did the bruin case 2022 versus new york work and essentially said, look, bump-stock is not the same as a full auto weapon and he's technically right. i'm a gun owner. i own a gun company. i spent a lot of time shooting guns there is a very serious distinction between the two in terms of the overall mechanisms. i know for a lot of viewers out there, they're going to say where's your michael? i don't particularly care, but in terms of the law, these classified patients do actually matter. and the obama administration looked at this gym and they decided based on those mechanical differences that they were not going to ban bump stocks, but shouldn't the federal government be able to regulate they do, they can make sure they show has a lot of morrow, even justice alito was saying, you're not if the law says you're not supposed to have automatic machine is not functionally turns it into an automatic that's not see the problem is that you look at the actual text of the statute. they did not define machine gun the term in terms of the functionality of the weapon they did to find it in terms of the mechanism of actions, right? in other words, where the, you have to pull the trigger more than once to get more than women about bump-stock the rest looks at our country. >> it looks at all the gunman that's why those people over there yeah. >> they need to take a sentence law that would fix that. the guys who can't even name post offices these days but again, i would just say quickly here. i think owning a firearm is a very serious thing. so we're serious responsibility. most gun owners, i spent a lot of time with a lot of them. they take gun ownership very seriously. they trained very well. there's a lot of now people of color, a lot of women who are now gone is entering into this space. i do understand people worrying about public safety. i lost my father to gun violence at lausanne cool. to gun violence. >> so i understand personally the implications of this issue. >> and that's not to say that we shouldn't address it. i just don't think banning bumps stocks would've necessarily handle that issue. i think we need to look at this a little differently. our guys. thank you very much. i appreciate it. good. talked about the if thanks, jim alright. coming up and just few moments it is debate crunch time. the trump binary matches 13 days away right here on cnn, we have the scoop on what both are doing to prepare. that's right. they are preparing plus a new message to the world from princess catherine of wales, her first update since revealing her cancer diagnosis, her royal returned to the stage, happened princeton just hours from now two presidents, the former under our leadership, the forgotten man and woman, will be forgotten. >> no law the current democracy is still a sacred car. there's no country in the world, better positioned to lead the world in america, who will be the next the most anticipated moment of this election, the way only cnn can bring it to you, moderated by jake tapper and dana bash to cnn presidential debates thursday, june 27, live on cnn and streaming on max dad is a legends and his legendary moves might be passed down to you. >> ancestry dna can show you which traits were inherited. where they came from and who he shares them with? but can't move in. this sale is only for a limited time to thank her appointment and 30 minutes. >> okay. this one. >> remember? i don't want surgery for my duper trends contraction. >> two i don't want to wait for my contracture to get worse three, i want to treatment with minimal downtime for i want to non-surgical treatment. >> good boy and five and if non-surgical treatment and as an opera. >> i'll get a second opinion let's go take charge of your treatment. >> if you can't lay your hand flat, visit, find a hand specialist.com to get started start your day. >> with nature the number one pharmacist recommended vitamin supplement brand your best defense against erosion and cavities is strong enamel. >> nothing beats it. i recommend pro enamel active shields because it actively shields the enamel to defend against erosion and cavities. i think that this product is a game changer for my patients. it really works look, we know it's gonna be a big change, but it's the right thing to do for all of us it's just your mother and i went different things, which is why we got sling tv so we can watch live and free tv on one app that's right. >> dad gets live sports and news and i get my reality shows. and when we don't want it okay. your mom and i can still get hundreds of channels for free. >> thing is really keeping his family together. >> you have no idea. i had no idea life. >> happens. but with smart liner, your car stays protected no matter what life throws your way. simpler, safer smarter make this. >> marked choice. >> choose smart liner at fisher investments, we may look like other money managers, but were different. >> and how so? >> we're a fiduciary obligated to act in our client's best interests so we don't sell any commission-based products then how do you make money? we have a simple management fee structured, so we do better when our clients do better, the clients really come first, then. >> yes, we make them a top priority by getting to know their finances, family, health, lifestyle, and more. >> wow maybe we are different at fisher investments were clearly different. >> we never thought that with verizon's saving on the best and entertainment was gonna be so easy before we had to pretend we'd seen all these shows now that we have verizon, we can stop disney plus hulu, her uncle's unhappy. i'm sensing an underlying issue. it's t-mobile. it started when we tried to get him under a new plan. but they they unexpectedly unraveled their “price lock” guarantee. which has made him, a bit... unruly. you called yourself the “un-carrier”. you sing about “price lock” on those commercials. “the price lock, the price lock...” so, if you could change the price, change the name! it's not a lock, i know a lock. so how can we undo the damage? we could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. their connection is unreal. and we could all un-experience this whole session. okay, that's uncalled for. text dra w to 369369. >> today, i'm natasha bertrand at the pentagon. and this is cnn it has begun. >> donald trump has begun to bay preparations less than two weeks away from facing off with president biden right here on cnn, former president net with allies of washington yesterday, combing through topics and questions that could come up as cnn's presidential debate on june 27th. as for the man who will be on the other side of that table cnn has learned president biden has started his debate prep as well, tapping his former white house chief of staff to lead the effort joining me tonight democratic strategists and cnn political commentator, maria cardona and former senior adviser to mitch mcconnell, scott jennings, now, a cnn senior political commentator guys, thanks very much for being with me on a friday night. thanks for hanging in there. scott, let me go to you first. marco rubio and eric schmidt, republican senators. apparently they were in this quote, unquote policies session basically debate prep and one thing that came up was how to respond to questions about january 6 how do you how do you tackle that? because obvious, you know, president biden is going to bring that up, might even be in the first answer oh, i have no doubt it's going to be the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, tenth, 20th. question in the debate. and biden is going to go to it to try to get trump on infirm ground. that's the debating strategy, tried to get your opponent talking about topics that are infirmed for them. and so if you're trump, what's the answer to this question is really it's simple pivot, pivot out to the things that you know are going to work for you in this election, inflation immigration. me, look at my view is it's an amazing opportunity for america. we have two presidents two presidents that we know them both debating articulating the issues for their party's. it really is an incredible opportunity. and i think most people have decided already, jim to fire joe biden. they just haven't quite decided yet whether to rehire donald trump. that's his opportunity here. give them a reason to be to rehire him as president over a president they've already decided to fire. >> all right, maria, unless you weigh in on that, and as you also heard, the president is doing his debate prep he's working with ron klain up on all of this and it sounds like what they want to do is get him to be punchier probably like that state of the union address that whenever well, with the democratic base, what do you think that's right? >> and they're actually really looking forward to this debate. and president biden is really looking forward to this debate because they believe, and i agree that once donald trump is on that debate stage with joe biden, it's going to be very clear the stark contrast is going to be highlighted for the american people. a 34 times convicted felon in donald trump, who still believes that the 2020 election was stolen and started an insurrection on darien six because of it. >> and yes, i do think it's going to be a big issue during the debate as it should be. and i hope that jake tapper and dan are going to bring it up. >> sure. because it is i think the basis it's a big basis as to why joe biden ran because he knows the majority of americans know that donald trump is an existential threat to the country, but it's going to be more than that. it is going to be the economy. it's going to be rights and freedoms, abortion, it's going to be the fact that under another president trump, another four years president trump, he's going to take away rights and freedoms. >> well, i do want to get into this because scott earlier this evening trump had this rally and he was saying that he assumes a hunter biden's laptop will come up at the debate. so as the trump team is anticipating, january 6 to come up, trump obviously wants to bring up on her bottomless. listen to this they said, the laptop from hell did not come from russia. it was not russian this information, like the 51 intelligence said it was a made-up story for election interference. and i assume that we're going to be talking about that subject at the debate. >> yeah. >> there's sometimes i think i need a decoder ring to figure out what he's saying there and that might be one of those instances, but scott, what do you think it's a good idea for donald trump to bring up hunter biden at the debate. there has been some conversation about whether or not this is a sympathetic thing for friday president biden, people sympathize with the president on this, and maybe that's not such a good idea for donald trump. what do you think i think as a debating tactic, it's a probably a great idea because joe biden has never been able to keep his wits about him when having to talk about 100 biden i mean, in the 2020 election, joe biden himself himself, in a debate, said the laptop was russian disinformation. >> he ordered his campaign to say that he worked with the media to cover it up and try to keep it from the american people. i mean, he was invested in this story. he's on the record saying his son did nothing wrong. me look of your donald trump and you want to get joe biden off of his game this is what you bring up because biden has had a difficult time discussing this in public. i don't know that it's going to move a ton of voters. but if you're thinking about debate prep strategy, how to derail your opponent, just like you did with hillary clinton in 2016 when they brought the women to the debate. this is joe biden's get emotional about it, and that can really throw you off when you get emotional about things and stop executing your strategy. >> well. and scott brings up a good point. i think donald trump has a track record of hitting below the belt at these debates. he's going to do it. yeah. and you have absolutely. and i guarantee you that that is going to be something in the prep sessions that president biden is having that they are absolutely preparing him for it as difficult as it is because they will tell him, sir, donald trump is going to try to throw you off exactly like scott said, because i do think he'll try to do it but i believe that he will stand his ground he actually has been very not just not just coherent, but emotional in an appropriate way president biden has and talking about his son when the conviction came out, he was very sober saying that he wasn't just talking as president. he was talking as a father and how much he loved his son, how much he supported his son, how proud he was of him going through recovery. and that is so relevant for so many families in the country. jim that i think that if donald trump brings us up and tries to use this as a weapon against president biden. it's going to backfire because so many families understand what the biden family's going through well, as hunter biden has gone through through this addiction, so i would not suggest that he brings it up, but he probably will because he'll be desperate given all the other phish's that biden is going to bring up against trump. >> and scott, i do want to ask you about something else. has got a lot of coverage, but trump had this meeting with top ceos yesterday cnbc is reporting several of them complained he was, quote, meandering and couldn't keep a straight thought. let's listen to this i spoke to a number of ceos who i would say walked into the meeting being trump supporter, ish, or thinking that they might be leaning that direction. >> these were people who i think might have been actually predisposed to him and actually walked out of the room less supposed to. i'm actually predisposed to thinking this is not necessarily as one person said, this may not be any different or better than a biden thought scott, what do you think about that? >> i mean, lately, i mean, trump at these rallies, he talks about sharks and electrocution and i mean, there's some a hannibal lecter and it's like what, what's going on here. >> and andrew ross organs very credible business journalists saying at this roundtable ceos were walking out of the room scratching their heads look, i think that these ceos are ultimately going to choose to support someone that they think is going to be best for their business and i think most of them are going to conclude that it's the republicans. it would be better for them to ever republican governance and i'd have the government bringing down the heavy hand on them 24 hours a day, like it happens under joe biden. i mean, look if you're worried about incoherence, i mean look, joe biden has claimed his uncle was eaten by cannibals. he has claimed he was arrested with nelson mandela. he has claimed as all kinds of crazy things that make no sense whatsoever. and so i hear people unspooling this about donald trump. it's just do you not know who he's running against this attack on him for this is not is not going to work and it's because of joe biden constantly every day. but biden, i think it's a lot of coverage lines about himself think there's a lot of coverage for it. a particular on a certain network. but scott trump talking about sharks. and do they do stay in the boat or do you get eaten by the shark or do you get electric? i still i've watched that one clip. i think 100 times in the last week. i still don't know what the hell that is. i really don't and i don't know. i don't know. i guess what lando what i'm talking about that sharks are by cannibals will have to decide we want to be by sharks are cannibals. i don't know. >> i don't know what these words this week. this week, i think donald trump's the fact that he's unhinged and is becoming crazier by the day, was under splay for everybody to see. and i think it's going to be a bit it contrasts going into the november election, somebody who is in this for himself, who cannot put a coherent work together in front of ceos. >> and i gotta think it's not going over well with his team when he says stuff about milwaukee where the exactly mentioned is going to be in a slam state post them. scott the milwaukee thing i'm sure there didn't hear it. i'm sure that's one of those where you just like banana. it's not yeah. yeah. >> it's not look, it's not unusual for republican politicians to criticize the policies of governance in these big urban areas, whether they're in a swing state or not. so if he said that it wouldn't it wouldn't shock me actually because it's a pretty common republican refrain that democrats who run these cities can't govern for crap. i mean, it's, it's a pretty standard pillar of our i mentioned that maj. sure crime has been going down a milwaukee. >> i did put that on my surely pointed out again, just in case yours were working earlier, marine has got great conversation. good to see you, scott. thank you, sir. thanks, maria. appreciate it. all right in the meantime, a day of reckoning for alex jones, who put families of sandy hook victims through hell amid all their pain what he has to pay now, what he has to give up in order to pay up, that's next we've got jobs and got keith, we got sick you up it's going to be doggy dog out there the came travelers. >> it's what everyone wants to be time is precious if you're living with hiv, imagine being good to go without daily hiv pills good to go unscripted good to go on a whim with kevin uva. >> there's no pausing for daily hiv pills for adults were in detail interval. kevin uva is the only complete long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. it's two injections from a healthcare provider, just six times a year don't proceed the cabinet, if you're allergic to its ingredients or if you're taking certain medicines which may interact with cabinet serious side effects include allergic reactions, post injection reactions, liver problems, and depression. if you have a ration, other allergic reactions, symptoms, stop habit nuba, and get medical help right away. tell your doctor if you have liver or kidney problems and mental health concerns? it's any of you are pregnant or breastfeeding or considering pregnancy, some of the most common side effects include injection site reactions, fever, and tiredness with cabin nova you're good to go. ask your doctor about switching. >> why choose asleep numbers smart that can keep me warm when i'm cold. >> wait, no, i'm always hot. >> sleep number doesn't that can i make my side softer? >> i think my side firmer squeeze number. does that can help us sleep better and better sleep number? >> does that 94% of smarter sleepers report better sleep? now say 40% of the speed numbers special edition smart plus 0% interest for 24 months shop now at sleep number.com was had trouble losing weight and keeping same discover the power we go to the beach. >> what we gobi, i lost 35 pounds. >> as some lost the war, 46 pounds we go. and i'm keeping the weight off. >> we go via helps you lose weight and keep it off. >> i'm reducing my risk. >> we go v is the only fda approved for weight management medicine that's proven to reduce risk of major cardiovascular events and adults with known heart disease and with either obesity or overweight, we go visa and be used the semaglutide or glp-1 medicines don't take, we go if you or your family had medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome, type two or for allergic to it stopped. we go we can get medical help right away. if you get a lump or swelling in your neck severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction, serious side effects may happen, including pancreatitis and gallbladder problems. we go we may cause low blood sugar and people with diabetes, especially if you take medicines to treat diabetes, tell your provider about vision problems or changes, or if you feel your heart racing while at rest, depression or thoughts of suicide may occur. call your provider right away if you have any mental changes, common side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. would we go i'm moving wait i'm keeping it off. and i'm lowering my cv risks check cost and covfor free today silent earth would liev schreiber sunday at night on cnn a judge in texas has ordered conspiracy theorist alex jones to liquidate his personal assets, forcing him to begin paying the roughly 1.5 billion in damages he owes for claiming the sandy hook massacre was a hoax. the judge, however, did offer jones a partial when ruling against liquidating the parent company of jones's website, infowars. that means the far-right website will remain online. but it's for a future is unclear while efforts to collect on the debt are made in state courts and joining me now is our friend of veteran media reporter brian stelter. >> hey, brian great to see you. great to catch up with you. you too let's talk about this alex jones thing because i'm a little confused as sounded as though the fact that he was enough to sell off his personal assets that sounded like a huge win for the sandy hook families. but if a judge is leaving his website in place, it seems to me, brian that it's going to allow alex jones to continue to pump out lies and conspiracy theories like he has been in some way, yes, that's right, jim, this is a complex ruling by a judge who has to think about what the creditors are owed, but the creditors deserve. these are multiple lawsuits in multiple states against out jones they've been going on for years. appeals are going to keep going on. but this was a landmark ruling today, taking alex jones personal assets away. >> that's not nothing that's millions of dollars that will now be divvied up among these sandy hook families. but i do want to acknowledge as we head into the weekend, that includes father's day there's no such thing as winning here. there's no real winning, right for these families. there's no such thing as winning, but there had been a divide among the families as the new york times reported, some of the families wanted alex jones shut off, right? cut offline infowars shutdown. >> other families that had a different approach that might have resulted in more money for each family. >> so there was a dividing here. i think that gets to how ugly and complex this really is. what is the right path forward for accountability, for consequences for the biggest aligher's out there. >> well in infowars is allowed to continue operating is he really paying a price? i mean, $1 sure. that's a lot if he has to sell his personal assets, that's not going to feel good. but that infowars as you know, brian, you've looked at this so well over the years, it is a machine and it's, it's like a printing press that prints money yeah, i've experienced it firsthand. they've made up stories about me. they probably made up stories about you, jim, these websites, they will continue to exist in some form, but alex jones is clearly on the ropes. he is telling his audience that he's going down and he's begging them to buy products on the way out. i what i think's going to happen is infowars may read he emerge in some other form and some other fashion. and that's where i think there's a deeper story here, jim was is about supply and demand and you can target alex jones. you can go after him. you can pursue them in the courts and these families have succeeded at least to some degree in pursuing them in the courts but wherever there's a demand for extremism, hate and lies there's going to be supply and move. it's not alex jones if it's not infowars, it's going to be someone else so as much as we talk about the supplier in this case, alex jones, who finally is having his day of reckoning in court we also have to reckon with the demand of all this. >> yeah. and brian, i mean, we also should and you mentioned this earlier and you are so right to do so, what the sandy hook families have been going through this ordeal, i mean, for the folks at home who are just aren't up to speed fully on what alex jones did to them. i mean, he he as we said in the beginning, put them through hell and that is where that's, that's the part of this that i think is hard for folks on the outside to fathom or to understand when you're getting death threats, harassment, hate mail, those sorts of things. >> you are reliving the worst de of your real-life over and over and over again. and that's what but alex jones and others like him cause for these families, i think it was very brave, very courageous for these families to file lawsuits because when you do that, when you go public, when you file a lawsuit, you're subjecting yourself to even more of that scrutiny, perhaps even more of that harassment. but in doing so, these families have shown that there is a pathway forward for accountability clearly, we're seeing it in a lot of ways in the wake of january 6 off so big liars, people that promoted the big lie being held accountable in court. we all remember the fox dominion case last year, dominions taking newsmax to court, and that's supposed to go to trial and just a few months. so we are seeing the courts are an important method of accountability in these cases, but it's not perfect it's complicated. it can be unsatisfying certainly tonight for these families, this is a mixed decision at best for the sandy hook families, and it can be a long haul. these things take time, long haul, and we're talking about the sandi families. how many years later after a terrible, awful tragedy, it's just unthinkable to imagine what they've been going through brian stelter, great to see you as always. thanks a lot really purdue too. >> thanks, jim all right. >> coming up next a new picture of the princess of wales in an update on her battle with cancer and big news on where she will be in just a few hours baked like in america, as biden and trump meet and only cnn has come pleat coverage with unrivaled access and exclusive pre and post of beit analysis. follow cnn for every countless moment followed debate night in america begins june 27, ms bathrooms, so musty new fast acting drop-in tab a traps and traps excess moisture, eliminating musty odor you take me feel better again? >> la feel better now, did you know you can save with good rx and even if you have insurance amount of medicare, i checked good rx because it can beat my copay. like that even if you have insurance. >> we've got our x cannot be saved another good reason to check, good rx let's get the rest of these plants organic soil from miracle grow has grown me at best garden. i have ever had good soil and you get good results. >> this soil will blow you away. it's the stewart, a soil you find the perfect fathers de get symbol. >> just type wt.com, whether tech has hundreds of premium products that will keep that's vehicle looking at it's best like laser measure for liners, cargo leinz, and seat protector for extra interior projection sunshade. wants harmful uv rays. the cupp bone perfectly secured his phone while driving order these american made products or gift card the wt.com, happy father's day work play blank relief, work, play, planking. >> really, the only three and one extended release the formula for dry eyes like if you have chronic kidney disease you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with bars sega because there are places like to be for seeker can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections and low blood sugar array your life threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur, stopped taking four sika and call your doctor right away at the eps symptoms of disinfection and allergic reaction or ketoacidosis you've got better things to do than clean out clog gutters callie filter day, and never clean out clog gutters again, leaf filters technology keeps debris out of your gutters for good, guaranteed colleague 33 lee filter today, or physically fill two.com, millions of people have lost weight with personalized plans from noon, like brittany, who lost 20 pounds i felt so supported by knew it became an anchor for me. >> noon has changed my life get started today and lose 15 pounds and 15 weeks with consumer cellular is back asked and reliable coverage. >> it's easy to win re-send and get two months free when you buy any iphone like iphone 15 pro with titanium, protect your family by-line back now, thank you, dan that was over ten years ago. >> now, life back is responsible for you're saving over 2000 lives from choking. >> and the time it takes you to pick up the phone and call another life could be saved. >> the life fact saved my life one to seconds protecting families has always been our mission. i'm sure you love your family. like i love my daughter. do us all a favor and get your own life back now, go to life fact dotnet are called 877 live faq order. now make the most of your summer by taking a vacation from payments on the most capable wrangler ever. the most affordable jeep suv. >> jeep comes the only open-air pick up, cheap gladiator. >> and the most awarded suv ever jeep grand cherokee. >> hurry into your local dealer and make the most out of summer with great deals plus no payments for 90 days during the cheap make this the summer event, get 2000 bonus cash allowance plus my monthly payments for 90 days on the 2024 gop-led eater and most 2024 gb gas-powered models for how solomon in new york is cnn catherine the princess of wales, is just hours away from being seen in public for the first time since revealing her cancer diagnosis tomorrow shall be king charles, his birthday celebration at buckingham palace, the past alice releasing this new picture of kate today along with her update on her treatment, the princess says she is making good progress while undergoing chemotherapy, but it's not out of the woods yet. she says she expects her treatment to continue for a few more months and we should note we still don't know what type of cancer she is battling. my source on this nitrogen goddard, a royal expert and host of this week, but fisher goddard i, trisha nice to see you. i just before our segment started, i was saying, this is a big deal, right? that she's gonna be out in public tell us about how big of a deal this is and it's also a i feel like this is a very positive thing because a lot of folks here are the us have just been hoping for the best, hoping that she can get through this with flying colors well, it is a big deal because it's really unusual. but before this statement came out the prime minister and the cabinet were informed in advance. now that's not something that normally takes place. so you're absolutely right. it is a big deal. >> and along with it, the photograph as well in nature, mac fortius has done a lovely portrait. >> i think it speaks volumes though against the, i mean, we all want to be optimistic, but it speaks volumes that i think as someone and i spoke to dryness and about this, as you know, i happen to be going through cancer treatment myself and, you look for the reality in the message. >> and i think the big message here is there's all of this optimism, but she's been real as you say, she's saying she's not out of the woods yet. the palace has stressed this doesn't mean that catherine is coming back to work full time. and it's going to be very much on a case-by-case situation my reading of it, um, don't take this as gospel, but again, from personal experience when one is going through chemotherapy fits every three weeks or two weeks whenever it is. the first week after that treatment is where you start writing a little stronger. >> my reading of this is that the king's birthday celebration comes at that time when she's feeling stronger and she kinda hints at that at she says good days and bad days. >> and when there are good days, you want to grab that opportunity. >> and i think she's grabbing that opportunity. >> it said that she spoke with king charles before she did that but she's grabbing that opportunity in getting back into everyday life. you can become with any chronic illness a little bit of a hermit, very understandable, but these are her first steps back in to being seen by the public and because the royal family is so managed and everything is so carefully choreographed and and so on. >> you've one would have to think and i'm just speculating here that she that she is doing well enough to do this and that is why we are seeing this. maybe i'm misreading it, but i i feel like as an american i have just as much experience as anybody else following the royals, but in her statement, she said, i'm learning how to be patient, especially with uncertainty. what does that say to you? because i'm looking at this photograph here. she looks a lot better here than in the video with the white striped sweater but your thoughts yeah. >> yeah makeup if you're in a public, i've got to say makeup and things like that. >> do we women the right size to some places? yeah guys. >> to use that yet. >> but you hit upon a really good point being patient with the uncertainty not knowing what the future holds. i think we shouldn't forget that catherine is the patron of an involved in many mental health charities. >> now, her post and this speaks more, i think to mental health and well-being. and yes, the palace manages everything, but i will say hi this, i think with that video that you touched upon william and catherine have made the running of this. i don't think king charles is under any illusions in saying that this is the new way forward, even with him talking about cancer. this is unprecedented in royal circles. so only thing catherine and willing in a really strong position, they've talked about mental health before. so this is saying, hey, i feel strong enough to get out there, but not so strong that i'm going to throw myself for long first into nonstop absolutely absolutely. what's your shirt, goddard. >> thank you so much. and all the best to you and your battle. we're rooting for you as well. thank you so much for your time, trisha, we appreciate it. a programming note. here's a sneak peek at this. sunday is new episode of the cnn original series violent earth i'm going to ensnare, give you this whole past because we saw awake those all all across the horizon. >> and dave and i were looking at gone. why didn't the world is that the closer it got the louder? >> god it sounded like jet engines now, owner of the resort started screaming and tall but we could tell by the fear in his voice that it was serious i just cut the camera and i started running at the very last point, i don't know why. i turned, but i did. >> that's what i saw wave the bank and it just went like that that wave was not ten feet anymore. >> it was 40 the feet i just thought that's it. i'm dead tune-in violent earth with leave sri, her airs sunday at 9:00 p.m. right here on cnn, coming up backs chris rock, jimmy fallon, steven colbert, and the pope. >> that is not a joke. see what happens when their worlds collide. that's coming can one i want welcome in which and be with my family i want you to join your brothers in the rank. >> welcome to the show i just love being out there with you guys. >> the only thing that matters to me claw read the door now streaming exclusively on macs we never thought that with verizon saving on the best and entertainment was gonna be so easy before we had to pretend we'd seen all these shows now that we have a ryzen, we can stop pretending disney plus it's hulu, espn plus netflix and max off for just $20 a month only on verizon and i detect this living with hiv, craig learned you can stay undetectable with fewer medicines that's why he switched to nevado. >> divider was a complete hiv treatment for some adults. no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable, then divide detect this leo learn that most hiv pills contain three or four medicines. devito is as effective with just two if you have hepatitis b let's stop the vada without talking to your doctor. don't take to vado if you're allergic to its ingredients, are taking the fed allied. this can cause serious or life-threatening side effects if you have a rash or allergic reactions, symptoms stopped of auto and get medical help right away, serious or life-threatening lactic acid buildup and liver problems can occur. tell your doctor if you have kidney or liver problems or if you are pregnant or breastfeeding or considering pregnancy devito may harm and unborn baby. most common side effects or headache, nausea, diarrhea, trouble, sleeping, tiredness, and anxiety detect this. you could stay undetectable with fewer medicines. ask your doctor about devops. >> as a parent choking is a leading cause for terror. choking is on the national safety council top five list for unintentional injury deaths. but thanks to life back a parent's job just became a little bit easier. >> our mission is simple. we hope to save the thousands lives that needlessly die each year from choking accident. >> and it's already saved over 2000 lives. get your very own life back now, go to life dotnet or call 877 live faq well done. >> viv you've got the presence, the balloons, and the raptor cake now about something to put a smile on your face has been dental provides complete affordable care with dentists and labs in one place, plus free exams and x-rays for new patients without insurance and 20% off treatment plans for everyone quality care at a price worth celebrating its one more way, aspen dental is in your corner thinker a minute, 30 minutes you got this one. remember? i don't want surgery for my duper trends contraction i don't want to wait for my contracture to get worse. three, i want to treatment with minimal downtime for i want to non-surgical treatment. good boy. >> and five and in an surgical treatment is an offer i've did a second opinion let's go take charge of your a slow network is no network for business. that's why more choose comcast business. and now, we're introducing ultimate speed for business —our fastest plans yet. we're up to 12 times faster than verizon, at&t, and t-mobile. and existing customers could even get up to triple the speeds... at no additional cost. it's ultimate speed for ultimate business. don't miss out on our fastest speed plans yet! switch to comcast business and get started for $49.99 a month. plus, ask how to get up to an $800 prepaid card. call today! house for $19 laura coates live next. >> i'm cnn closed captioning brought to you by guilt visit guilt.com today for up to 70% off designer brands it has the designers that get your heart racing had inside a prices new every day, hurry. >> there'll be gone in a flash designer sales at up to 70% or so of guilt.com today in an age of trump versus biden red versus blue, democrats versus republicans, bringing the two sides together often means drawing a battle lines. so when a pro-trump store moved in next to a crystal shop owned by self-described staunch liberal. you might be surprised what happened next. and cnn's donie o'sullivan takes us there the republicans on the rice when they want to paint a picture of a liberal probably paint me yeah. this is valerie barr. she owns this crystal shop here in forest lake, minnesota. >> i wear a lot of crystals. i'm very obsessed with them, so i were tigers it for self-confidence malachite, for money luck because who doesn't need that? >> valerie store has been here for three years, but a few months ago qui-gon, a new neighbor, a store that exclusively cells pro trump merch you are not a trump suborder. i am not i am vehemently not. there are macguffins i liked the metaphysical. >> yes. >> there are. >> i'm not sure that there is vocal about it, but yes, i do have people who go back and forth between the two shops million years ago inside valerie cells, all kinds of crystals bracelets, and other metaphysical objects. >> and there's even a clairvoyant. is there anything in my immediate future that i should know about or care about or do i'm stay in the moment paul, the owner of the trump store, didn't want to go on camera, but he did introduce us to valerie and he spoke very kindly avar so this is one pause a good guy. we have a solid working relationship and there's been no problems. >> so is there a lesson that americans can learn from this strip mall and no soda? >> yeah, i think so. when the shop came here and i met paul, some of the anger in my own heart dissipated and i would love to see that more in america and i feel it's possible yeah, we can all be different. we can all have our different opinions, but we're all humans. we all live here. and i think we can co-exist. >> that's kinda nice, isn't i would like to thank so and donie o'sullivan joins me now do one i need some of those crystals bad. >> i mean, you know, it's been a little tough lately you travel around the country, whatever they send on the back of the store yeah let me i don't think there's enough crystals isn't the world's i can mute down gym, but know that that might be true, that might be true, but maybe more than crystals might be necessary i was also wondering to the lady with the fortune telling, did she tell you who's going to win the race, but it was nice to hear from this nice lady that you talked to and it sounds like it gave me a little bit of hope yeah. >> it's obviously he spent a lot of time on the road is as you very well know, jim and speaking to people who are very entrenched in on either side, we were actually visiting that trump some store for a separate story and it was the owner of the trump's saw, paul, let mentioned his neighbor yeah. >> i mean, look they neither of them they said that they don't talk politics each other, but she was nervous when she heard a store was moving in next door like this and she said everything has been okay of the, clientele, even go pick up some mega hats and then combine to get some crystals and vice versa so yeah, a little bit of hope. >> i think maybe from that strip mall in minnesota and people might not realize this. i've seen this, but there are trump's stores like this all over the country. what are they selling? and what? what what's in store for somebody if they've walked into one of those places yeah. it's just everything trump as you can imagine and, a lot of cell some funny things about biden some pretty nasty stuff too. but it's actually interesting how somebody described the store to me is that there's from stores, as you mentioned there in different pockets of the country. they're in strip malls they're open and you can just go in and buy this merch they're not affiliated for the most part or any of that i know of with the campaign. so it's not as if you're making a political donation but somebody in the store described to me, they said the store is kind of pop up closer to election time, almost halloween stores that pop up a few months before halloween every year that's that's how these trump i'm stores are starting to head to pop up. >> are you telling me that donald trump's not getting a nickel out of the products sold in stores. i won't get into that right now. let's not go there. >> my gets over these it's folks in treble with donie o'sullivan, great stuff from the campaign trail. as always, great to see you. thanks so much. >> thanks, jim. >> all right. >> in the meantime, pope francis making history today as the first pontiff to attend the g7 summit for world leaders and meeting with president biden on the sidelines there. but he also hosted the vatican's first ever conclave of comedians. yes, you heard that, right? you're seeing on your screen right now, jimmy fallon, chris rock, conan o'brien, julia louis-dreyfus were among the dozens of comics gathered around the world. he shook hands with every person there are likely why will be goldberg did not get a chance for this but i didn't all right. >> place to bring it up, but i'll probably add to her that often crack jokes about religion. the pope offered a reassuring and uplifting message that it's okay to laugh at god, we play and joke with the. people we love a nice note to end on. all right,