for watching anderson cooper 360 is next what johnson tonight. on 360, the former president weighs in again about whether he'll use the criminal justice system for political payback. and again, suggest he might also tonight why steve bannon, his former strategist is heading to prison and his own call for trump's supporters to quote savage or enemies. plus, remembering a time 80 years ago today when americans defeated the enemies of freedom and humanity on the beaches of normandy, then help rebuild a continent. we begin tonight, keep them honest with the ongoing question of whether the former president, if reelected, would use the criminal justice system i'm against his political opponents ongoing because he keeps hinting at it, speaking evening and phoenix had an event put on by the conservative activist charlie kirk he can find the bulk of his remarks, immigration and the economy, but also railed against his criminal prosecutions and finished with this and i'm telling you we are in more danger from the enemy from within with these lunar taxis fascist, these communists. and we're going to stop that it also these are words he's using the past for the people prosecuting him are overseeing his trials. and as retribution talk goes, what he said today was pretty mild by comparison with what he's been saying recently, like this moment on newsmax when asked about payback against his opponents it's terrible, terrible past that they're leading us to. and it's very possible that it's going to have to happen to them that was two days ago, generated enough headlines for sean hannity on fox last night to try and do damage control my question is very serious. >> one you know, people are claiming you want retribution people are claiming you want what has happened to. you. >> don't two democrats, would you do that ever look, what's happened to me has never happened in this country before. and it has to stop because wait a minute, i want to hear that again. >> it has to stop that's a fox news host. all but throwing his body between his guests to and what his guests was about to say. what does guests believes evidently, here's what came next is handy, kept trying and failing to real things in i would have every right to go after them. and it's easy because it's joe biden and you see all the criminality all of the money that's going into the family and him all of this money from china, from russia, from ukraine. will you pledge to restore equal justice, equal application of our laws and this practice of weaponization is that a promise you're going to make? you have to do it? >> but it's awful i know you want me to say something. i don't want you to say. i don't want to look naive. >> i don't want they've done to the republican party they want to arrest on no crime. they want to arrest the person that won the nomination and landslide, i will do everything in my power. we're not to let, but this tremendous criminality here, what they are doing to me. if if it's going to continue really not going to have much of a country left. it's really, it is weaponization. you call it lawfare, you call it some people call it just warfare. >> so now it's actually the metaphorical lawfare, but warfare against him. and by extension, his followers. meantime, the current president is in france commemorating the sacrifices thousands made 80 years ago and the real warfare they faced as they began pushing now it's invaders back. first in the beach heads enormity, then finally to the gates of berlin. speaking today, he did not mention the former president by name. he president biden did, however, say this about the threat to europe from bladder or putin. and he said the threat to freedom everywhere we're living at a time when democracy had more risk across the world than a point since the end, the world war ii, since these beaches were stormed in 1944 now i have to ask ourselves, when we stand against tyranny against evil, against crushing brutality of the. >> iron fist, when we stand for freedom, we defend democracy we stand together my answer is yes and only can be yes the mockers he's never guaranteed every generation must preserve it defended and fight for it that's the test of the ages joining us now is biden harris national campaign co-chair and former new orleans mayor mitch landrieu. >> mirror landrieu prison. biden spoke about the third of authoritarianism, preserving democracy without directly naming from president trump today, do you think trump, if elected, would seek retribution, including going after president biden well, anderson, first of all, thank you for having me on this incredibly special de 20 years ago, i was standing in the very place where president biden was watching president bush and then french president jacques chirac go through the same exercise of remembering perhaps the greatest day in history and our president represented the united states of america on the world stage and reminded us once again that democracy is at risk both home and abroad. >> and he was very forceful about it and he was very clear. and he said many, many times that democracy is not free. you have to defend it you have to fight for it. and if we don't do that, then basically the burden falls and blood is spilled from youngest men and women who defend us and for anybody that ever there are seeing that have been omaha beach and seen the height that those kids scale to preserve freedom, you just your heart, not only breaks, but you said in an awesome wonder. and one of the things the president has been trying to say to us, this is now his seven speech on the subject. you'll talk about this tomorrow. there is that you have to preserve it at home and you have to deserve it, preserve it abroad. now, we have a person running for president in the united states again, who is a twice impeached president who is now a convicted felon, who has said that if he's presently united states, he doesn't believe that he is conscripted by the very constitution that those young men and women died to preserve. and that he could put seal team six out to kill his political enemies. he has you had sean hannity on before who was trying begging him almost the same mr. president, please say that you're going to follow the law. you remember sean hannity actually did the interview? not too long ago when he said he'd be a dictator for a day. so this is what we know about donald trump, and we keep trying to find a sum what of a bright spot in the soul of this man. and he comes up dark every time. and we know that donald trump wakes up every day thinking about himself. then he thinks about hurting the people that hurt him. then he thinks about helping his rich friends. that's who we would elect. do you think he would actually go about mujer? i have no doubt that he will i don't think that there is one iota he learned from roy cohn. if you hit him, he hit you back. the difference here is that joe biden doesn't have anything to do with any of these prosecutions relating to donald trump. the reason why this has never happened in history is because we've never had somebody so vino that has been so disrespectful of the rule of law and the constitution that wants to be present in the united states. it is, we are a nation of laws, not of men. nobody is above the law in the united states of america, not even donald trump, although every day he wants to prove to us that he is. and if the constitution is going to hold, if due process is going to hold, if the rule of law is going to hold, it has to take its course. but let me say this, notwithstanding the fact that donald trump is in fact a convicted felon and has more to come. the only thing that actually works is the people of america making a decision on election day. none of these cases are going to stop donald trump for becoming president. and if the people of america belief in democracy, believe in freedom, and i believe that they do. joe biden has given them the opportunity to see it, to know it, to understand it. and two, once again, save america at this very perilous time, because there, we don't act. >> it could get really bad. there was this moment today when ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy shared an embrace with their marriage or veteran, i want to play that for viewers ukrainian save you he took his hat off. can you imagine yeah. >> yeah. can you imagine the humility of that american who stormed those beaches and just put his life at peril and saw 10,000 have his fellow folks die that were there on that beach saying to this young man who has been ferociously fighting putin, who bought way today, started defending donald trump and trump's said he'll end the war in ukraine really essentially he'll give nato away and he'll give you crane to putin. that is no way for the america who was a shining city on a hill that reagan talked about? on the shoulders of what fdr talked about. that is not the america that we need donald trump's and isolationists. joe biden understands america's place in the world and that if we're not there, the preservation of democracy and freedom both abroad and at home is gonna be at risk. what's at stake in this election? biden made a direct comparison between world war ii today and the war in ukraine we know the dark forces that these heroes fought against 80 years ago. they never fade do you think that's going to be a driving message in the biden campaign in the coming months. >> well, i think democracy and freedom are driving message. and again, america has always been an indispensable nation today, mitch mcconnell actually parotid the president's talk because mitch mcconnell understands this as well. i'll do some other mainstream republicans, but you may recall that when the president was trying to get funding from ukraine, they'll whole bunch of very, very conservative maga folks held up the funding for ukraine, donald trump said he wants to decimate nato. those are the best areas between us and autocracy and joe biden is standing in the breach right now on behalf of the american people, reminding us of the irreplaceable place that america plays. and of course, you couldn't, you couldn't have anything more poignant than having these seniors man, who's this is probably the last commemoration to be that remember the greatest act? microphase that the people of america, mma to save freedom in the world. >> there was incredible to see them. they're mitchell, andrew. thank you for perspective now, from to cnn political commentators from the left and right respectively, van jones david urban, david, i mean, do you agree with trump leaving the door open to prosecuting political opponents? do you think you do it now, listen first of all, just real quick. >> second, mitch landrieu, great, great guy, but man, i wish we had daniel, dale and to fact check all the stuff he's saying the president is never said he's going to send seal team six after his political opponents. >> well, we're making argument to this exactly. >> it was it was illegal occupant, donald trump. so donald trump never sad that you've heard him say he can shoot somebody on the street and his supporters, he didn't say that okay. it did say i understood. right. but but but mitch is just that he's defending democracy, it keeping democracy free and keeping it alive at america. there's a quitter pi pull that just, there's just out that shows in the state of georgia that the georgians trust donald trump to preserve democracy more than they trust joe biden. if the democrats are going to run on abortion of democracy, that's their big underpinning. you gotta, you gotta vote for joe biden because the boogie man, donald trump's can still democracy from yeah, well, the, the voters are buying it, at least the state of georgia. so i think i understood what you're see donald trump its past, because what he just went through, i think it's a lot of hyperbole. and as soon as it gets elected and he becomes the 47th president united states, you'll be on the governing, governing is a full-time job, won't have time to pursue his grievances is he is as he was talking about tonight, he saw me. he said, look, we're not gonna go there van do who do you believe that governing is a full-time job for the foreign president and that he won't pursue great it wasn't the last time but a lot of time tweaking and a lot of time golfing and a lot of time going after folks, including calling the president ukraine and trying to screw joe biden, gotten peach for it. >> i mean i don't it's i think it's wishful thinking on the part of my good friend but what a contrast today you have joe biden standing there in a great tradition of the american people defending freedom on the world stage you saw as the linskey of risking his life as his country stand up against fascism. and then you have for from putin and then you have donald trump just mad and peloton and upset with everybody and won't take off the table that he will go after his opponent and listen what he said what he said was there is massive criminality here that's what he accuses america's law enforcement of. he accuses american law enforcement, department of justice american law enforcement prosecutors of being massive criminals that should send a shiver down the spine of everybody because that's the kind of talk that an authoritarian rolls out when he wants to discredit law enforcement and bringing not law and order, but law and tyranny. that's really what he's laying the groundwork for. rhetorically, listen to what he says and look away. you did last time and you should be nervous here, but to be fair, van i do i think he's talking about the byte. he's taken a about biden's family and hunter biden and jim biden, i think the biden family writ large. i think that's what he was referring to, not the department of justice in that clip but i mean, he's called them, stop and it's called the department of justice bi gestapo. i mean, it's not as if there's not a long track record of him going after this and maybe there's one particular thing yeah. and anderson, i think that again, if the fbi showed up in ray jackets at your house, armed like they did at mar-a-largo to come after some documents and paper boxes. i mean, he's not i actually wouldn't have a problem. that the fbi showed in my house. i would let them in and by the way, if there no because i know what the law not like, they're andrew said, you saw the video come on, america saw that they know it was ridiculous. >> it's ridiculous the way they showed up. >> what did david is he gave? >> they gave them advanced warning. they i mean, this was not a raid. i mean my david, you know, better than that remember when you were on the air right thing. >> never mind. >> van i mean, i want to play with former president recently told fox news about hillary clinton he famously said regarding hillary clinton, lock her up, you declined to do that as president, i beat her. it's easier when you win and they also luck. and i felt and i could've done it but i felt it would have been a terrible thing and then this happened to me and so i may feel differently about i can tell you, i can i'm not sure i can answer the question hillary glenn, i didn't say lock her up, but the people would all say lock her up, lock robot. okay? >> of course he didn't say lock her up multiple times obviously but to david's point, he didn't have hillary guard temp tab hillary clinton prosecuted as president. should people take comfort in that? >> well i guess but he also just took it back. you feel like it's not saying like no backseat mean down is saying maybe that he should and so people should feel maybe less comforted going forward. one great things about david rohde i know him very well. when you see him dealing with young people and he'd those with young people from the pores backgrounds. he is about personal responsibility and that's why he's respected by republican, democratic cares about kids who cares about values, and he doesn't eat, doesn't care about color. the problem is, when now, when you're talking about donald trump, his personal responsibility to give those documents back that he had when he was asked you should hold the same standard. you all these kids to david. he should have given those documents back and they would never gotten write it. i just want to say i've one standard for everybody, rich, poor, big vaults, little folks, black, white. and that's how you've ordinarily men don't change it now for donald trump no, i don't there's an anderson i don't disagree. look, trump should turn the documents over. i don't disagree with that we are talking about whether trump feels the way does about the fbi. and i'm saying that he he feels the way he does because of that raid. i'm not saying he shouldn't turn those documents over. of course, you should have. if if the department of justice asked for documents and you have i mean, 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testament. >> let's go eye for an eye tooth for a tooth. >> after trump's conviction in new york, van and said manhattan district attorney alvin bragg should be jailed. he called on gop prosecutors across the country to seize the day and bring cases against democrats and he demanded republicans in congress step-up probes into the justice department the subpoenas should fly today before turning his podcast into a maga megaphone, bannon served in the us navy and later went on to become an investment banker with goldman sachs he transitioned into media, going on to lead the right-wing breitbart news and eventually becoming involved in trump's 2016 campaign and serving as a white house adviser. >> even after he was fired, he remained devoted to trump. >> he is an instrument of divine providence and a master of misinformation bannon's been boilerplate language about how the fbi was authorized to search mar-a-lago in august 2022, into a baseless claim that trump's life may have been at risk. >> they wanted somebody to bleed out. they were looking to have a confrontation that would be an armed confrontation end. >> he still peddling lies about the 2020 election if you do not believe that 2020 election was stolen you're not at the rail head of this movement. >> now he may find himself staying true to these words. >> you have to be prepared to go to prison well, sir, isn't he facing another trial on the phony build the wall charity that he was part of i'm that's the thing he'd been already pardoned by trump four before. >> yeah, that's right. i mean, this is in new york. he's facing state charges essentially saying that he defrauded folks by raising money to build a wall a southern border, and then allegedly funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars to himself and some of his colleagues. again, that trial is set for later on this year. he's pleaded not guilty. and as you pointed out, that same conduct was the subject of federal charges, but those federal charges ultimately didn't go anywhere because donald trump pardoned steve bannon before he left the white house. >> all right. sir, maria, thanks so much johnny is now a cnn political senior political commentator and former january 6 select committee member, adam kinzinger, congressman the former president called it an american tragedy, that the bannon has been ordered to report to prison. and in the same post on social media, he went on to take a shot at you and the january 6 committee writing the un-american weaponization of our law enforcement has reached levels of illegality, never thought possible before. indict the unselect j six committee for illegally deleting and destroying all of their findings. what what is he talking about? their nobody knows. look, donald trump and the american public it's ungoverned fete. >> we have all of our evidence there on government though it's published donald trump has, has had access to all of this. he has access to defendants through the smith investigation donald trump can call any witness and his lawyers can and depose them and get every piece of information but facts don't matter to him. i mean, that's obvious. he just wants to create this narrative. he complains about the so-called weaponization of the justice department, and then puts out whatever is fake tweet thing is called that basically is saying we're going to weaponize the justice department in this is a thorough terrorism to the 10th degree. he loved eyes two people. he takes their money, steve bannon donald trump raise money. they take it from people they have no regard for anything that is what makes america truly great. and they are absolutely losing their mind. there's mass psychosis going on, right? i mean, it is remarkable to me that steve bannon was facing these charges of raising money from small-dollar donors who thought they were giving to build a wall and the allegation was that the money was going to pay living expenses and and other sorts of expenses they were having. >> he's gets pardoned by then president trump. he's now facing state charges on it. banned and said he's gonna fight all the way to the supreme court. and when do you think there's any chance of that happening on him going to prison no. >> i mean, i don't think the supreme court is going to turn his prison sentence down. i mean, it's very cut and clear like he violated a subpoena bicarb congress. we gave them many opportunities to come in and talk, look at the number of people anderson that came in spoke to our committee and just took the fifth amendment. nothing happened to them because they complied with the subpoena. that's the requirement. he could have come in. he could have pled the fifth and this would all be over, but he wanted to try to look tough to the maga base, even as he's go into prison, he wants to look tough to the maga base because he's going to come out of prison in november or whatever, and he's going to monetize this so he can again make money from people that are going to give him this because they think he's some great fighter. he's a con artist. he's a scammer. and we saw that even in maga fundraising between the left section and between actual january 6 hundreds of millions of dollars was raised on this idea of stop the steal. >> and none of that money went to try to stop any steal. >> it went into the lawyers, into the pockets of donald trump and this just continues. and so i have always called this, this is abuse of the american people, convincing them that their very existence life is at stake. so you can extract one more dollar from them every day and until the american people stand up and reject this, it's going to continue. >> was the january 6 committee able to work around bannon's testimony or were there areas are your investigation that you still would have liked to explore with his testimony? >> oh, i'm sure there's a lot we would have liked to explore if you would've come in and testified honestly and openly, i think we got quite a bit of evidence. we made quite a strong case, but you never know what we don't know that he could have brought to light. and i think a lot of that through the smith investigation will be able to see because doj has a lot more than iris has to be able to compel witness testimonies. we didn't do we didn't give people immunity, for instance, to come in and talk the doj can do that. so they're going to be able to triangulate against him and get the information that he has i guess we don't know what we don't know because we didn't get a chance to talk to him mckenzie, are thanks so much. appreciate it up. next we remember the pivotal de years ago that changed the course of history. and the brave americans, brits and canadians and other allied forces who put their lives on the line to liberate europe and save the world eletric for short trips, gas for long like the paradox, it really is both. the alexis rx plug-in hybrid the volcano could destroy hawaii but the volcano is not the proper 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i will not end there ukraine's neighbors will be threatened all of europe will be threatened as we showed you earlier, ukrainian presence, linskey was also in attendance. he received a standing ovation, shared that emotional embrace with a war veteran soon as chief international anchor, christian amanpour witnessed at all joins me now christiane prison biden speech focused on the dangers of isolationism. draw a direct line from d-day to the war in ukraine. he said, we know the dark forces that these heroes fought against 80 years ago. they never fade. what did you take away from his remarks and from this incredible day? >> well, honestly this was one of the most amazing d-day celebrations that i've covered. and partly because that the veterans probably will not be here for very much longer. so when he spoke like that, he evoked in fact, not just the current tone, particularly in the united states of isolation the zoom with the donald trump wing of the republican party. but he harkened all the way back to ronald reagan in 1984, the 40th anniversary of d-day, when he himself also said that the way to peace is not to retreat across the sea and to hunker down at home isolation has never worked as a way to get ps so it was a really important moment. and of course, because we are in the first of these raging european wars on european soil since world war ii. and since that incredible d-day of 80 years ago, and i know you were able to speak with one of the hero is someone i know you spoke to five years ago, at the 75th anniversary whose started a new careers and tiktok star, which is amazing. >> what did, what did he tell you? >> honestly, this is jake larson, 101 we did see him here five years ago and we made a date to meet again. i kid you not. we have been in touch making sure and hoping that he would be here and sure enough, he was and he was just phenomenal. he said a number of things, including that they were just so young he and his friend fake their age a few years before the war. here were 15, they, they joined up for the national guard pretending they were 18. and then all of a sudden comes world war ii, and they find themselves signing up for this. and this is where he told me about that particular moment 80 years ago you will all kids. >> we were all kids. yes. >> and did you know then what you were fighting for? >> all real definitely that we knew every one of us tell us every one of us worst prepared to give our life to kick lotto europe then we did were lost quite a few of but i lost friends. everybody lost friends. >> but we can we were soldiers we were prepared to give our life just so amazing. >> everything he said that was just so shop he remembers it like yesterday, and he said, you know, when not the heroes, the heroes are up there heroes, all these people who align below these white crosses and stars of david. and he says something so profound. he said, they died so that i could live. i had a wife and i had children. i have grandchildren. i had a life. and in that human way, he actually told the whole world what world war ii and d-day was all about to give so the life of freedom and democracy that we expect. and that is at risk right now. >> it is incredible to think that this whole generation, i mean that there are very few laughed. i spoke to a survivor of auschwitz who was 93 several, several weeks ago for another story and the people from that time they are there it's a dwindling number it sure is and we could tell that hundred and 102 late 90s and they were really, really well-respected, frankly, this was all about them and president macro france gave 11 us d-day veterans the highest civilian honore that you can bestow. >> president biden met each and every one of them as well, pressing american metals into their palms. i could see and all they said, thank you, thank you for saving the world. and those few words, just say at all, they did actually save the world. and that's why this one is just so incredibly pointed because so much is at stake with russia's illegal invasion of ukraine and putting all of this in question again, history does not move in a straight line, and these heroes told us and made us understand then yes, we might be able to still have freedom and democracy, but only if we fight for it and only if we are prepared to die for that kind of ideal, it's incredibly profound and it's never that cliche has never meant more than it did this d-day we're not for their sacrifices and the sacrifices and so many, none of us would live the lives that we are living today. christian amanpour. thank you so much thank you. >> addison were on the year since world war ii, many us president is found or d days heroes, remember the crucial invasions as tom format takes a look at how past presidents have commemorated this day the fighting scarred the beach, the graves mark the land. and ever since american the presidents have remembered d-day ronald reagan gave what many consider the greatest salute to the young troops already old at the 40th anniversary in 1984 these are the men who took the cliffs these are the champions who helped free of continent these are the heroes who helped end a war. >> that theme was actually launched by the man who commanded the allied assault, general dwight eisenhower, who returned to normandy with cbs news for the 20th anniversary, by then a former president himself. >> one thing that pull this out was a bravery and the courage and the initiative of it. the american gi, we'd probably had made the best plan that wouldn't say the most lives and get the most benefit out of it. but those are the people who had to do the job president bill clinton emphasized the international nature of the allied troops they had come to free a continent the americans, the british, the canadians, the polls, the french resistance than regions and others. >> but let us never forget when they were young these men save the world george h w bush, with a pilot in world war ii to date, the last president to serve in the military. >> but his son president george w bush, acknowledged well, the special place of norman de vets generations to come will know what happened here but these man heard the guns today. we honor all the veterans of normandy and all their comrades who never left and. >> so it has gone president barack obama these men waved wars that we might know peace sacrifice so that we might be free. they thought in hopes of a day when we'd no longer need to play president donald trump. their mission is the story of an epic battle. and the ferocious eternal struggle between good and evil and president joe biden freedom is worth it democracy it's worth it america is worth the world is worth it. then now and always just before that perilous invasion, general eisenhower sent a note to his troops saying the eyes of the world are upon you and each june that is still true. even as the last survivor is like the battle itself, pass into history 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i was not surprised, but i am disappointed given that donald trump is now a convicted felon. do you think you could still vote for him i'm disappointed. but when you weigh the two candidates i'm not thrilled with either one of them to tell you the truth. i'm really not but i do like a lot of what trump did during his presidency so maybe leaning in that direction, yes, i agree with you on there when trump was in office, my business, it was thriving. i'm talking about quadruples cells. i mean, the business really, really thrived when he was an office and since biden has been an office, i mean, i'm always one step from closing my doors. i'm not concerned about whether he's a felon not you know, it's like is he going to be good for me and my business is really kind of crazy that we are at this point when we are considering voting for fail by now, you would have thought that kind of extra amount for me but i am still leaning towards maybe a birthday party. >> what is the moment that you all are waiting for? >> i decide, i mean, when you know, when you see it, when we feel that you really can't put a time on it. >> i mean, i think as you get closer, is that good feeling? i can't put a time frame on it. there are a lot of things that i worry about with biden than inflation bothers me. >> his cognitive ability bothers me. his foreign policy. so i mean, to me, those are negatives when it comes to him. >> i just got away at all. you're considering a third party. i am i think the debates are really going to help me with. >> we need those who am going to decide on. you have eight children. when you think about donald trump in office and character does that weigh into your decision? >> absolutely. i think that that's probably the biggest determining factor for me is when i teach my children to be kind. >> i mean, i've got to say trump can be abrasive extremely abrasive. i know that but yet i when it comes down to the bottom hello, i'm line of what he's he did for the country during his term i still feel good about that. >> trump and his allies have continued to call this verdict political persecution and they say that the whole thing, the whole trial was rigged. i don't feel like it was rigged at the end of the day there's an old saying now the chickens have to come home to roost. >> what about the two of you as republicans? i mean, he was convicted in the same way. a jury convicts people around the country every day. >> no, i don't think it was rigged i think it was set up. >> the timing of it to me, it's just i can't help but think isn't that sort of odd that they would do this right now. now but here's the perfect fine. because of the election coming up, you thinks he said perfect time for whom mind that this is the same department of justice that is now processing shooting. hunter biden, the democratic president's son. >> if you have enough power, you can wield anything would be foolish to think otherwise, does the charges hunter biden is facing and the troubles he's facing legally, does that give you pause when it comes to voting for joe biden no. >> no. >> i think about people like, you who are independent are undecided or leaning and just not sure and then you have this guilty verdict. >> i don't think it's going to hurt him at all. this will push his supporters even further in his corner because trump supporters are staunch supporters. they don't care what this fan does. >> i can see people who would be interested in third party completely riding him up as a result of a lot of trump supporters, i feel they are heading to seat with themselves and really faint what i really want someone who's been on trial for this to represent me should he dropped out as a convicted felon he should but he's not going to people make mistakes in their life. and that, that thing doesn't define who they are as a complete individual. so should him being week did make him dropout. i would say know how many of you think donald trump should go to jail two. >> okay. if you look at others who've been convicted of the same felony, right the low percentage have actually served time. >> i cannot go good about saying yes sir. no, i wish he had just shown remorse. yes really, what did the group of women had to say about candidates ages? >> one of the mentioned cognitive abilities are perceived cognitive abilities yeah right. >> anderson, we've got an earful about that really everyone in our group would like at least have the option chin a voting for a younger candidate, they would like to see a fresh face come into this race. they all told me they think it's time for both donald trump and joe biden to step aside. and let a new generation come in, someone with fresh ideas, someone who might be more in touch with where they believe they are in their lives and also the direction that this country is heading and in fact, one when said that one of the democrats that we spoke to said that she thinks when you talk about age for these candidates, it's really important to talk about the age of both of them because they're only about three-and-a-half years apart. so she thinks it's certainly fair to discuss that when it comes to both of them in person. ready. thanks so much. still ahead. one of the two trials these women were talking about day four of the hunter biden trial as prosecutors near the end of their case, they put their key witness on the stand, the widow of his late brother, bo, details of her testimony next plus what president biden had to say when asked if he would pardon his son our biggest challenge, uncertainty in fy surcharges, who knows what to expect? turned shipping to your advantage. >> keep it simple with clear upfront pricing, with usps ground advantage widely filter. >> it's well-designed, efficient. >> i appreciate that. we filtered technology keeps debris out of your gutters for good, guaranteed. >> what more could you ask for colleague 33 leaf filter today, more visit lee filter.com. the diary. >> this 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this comes after another dramatic day in court for hunter biden as prosecutors put his brother beau's widow on the stand. >> cnn's paula reid has more today, federal prosecutors put their star witness on the stand in the trial of hunter biden, the widow of his late brother, bo, who would become hundred there's girlfriend hallie biden, testified as federal prosecutors are close to finishing their case against the president's son in wilmington, delaware. >> she testified how she saw hunter with crack rocks the size of ping pong balls, witnessed him smoking crack and even went with him to buy drugs from dealers in washington dc. and how she had kohn precisions with him between 2017 and 2018 about his drug use telling him this can't go on. we can't do this. his responses would vary. sometimes saying, leave me alone, i'm fine or at other times, i'm an addict and i'll figure it out my way. she also testified how hunter introduced her to cry back in 2018. it was a terrible experience that i went through. i'm embarrassed and i'm ashamed and i regret that period of my life, but hundreds defense argues there's no evidence he was actively using drugs when he bought the gun in october 2018 and allegedly lied on the federal background check form. hallie testified that he found drugs and drug paraphernalia in hunter's car days later, i did find some remnants of crack cocaine and drug paraphernalia. she went on to testify about when she found the gun saying, i was afraid to touch it. i didn't know if it was loaded. the prosecution then produce video evidence of her tossing the gun into a grocery restored dumpster. i was so flustered. i realized it was a stupid idea now, the prosecution also introduced a text messages between the two including when hallie asked where hunter was the night after he bought the gun, he responded, now, off maryland av behind blue rock stadium, waiting for a dealer named kooky. but how they also testified during cross-examination, that's sometimes hunter would lie to her about his whereabouts the last witness that the jury heard from today was an older gentleman coleman, who found the gun in that dumpster. now, he testified he was rummaging through the dumpster trying to find recyclable materials to sell, to earn some money when he came up across the firearm at the center of this case, prosecutors say they'll have