joining us see you in a news night with abby phillip starts right now donald trump's pulp fiction, that's tonight on these nine good evening. i'm abby phillip flip in new york tonight. donald trump channels tarantino. it's almost like he sees himself as zeke el, the set on all sides by the tyranny of evil men but here's the thing about those enemies. there about as real as the samuel l. jackson character joules when field, meaning not at all. on the other hand, these biblical sounding promises of great revenge against their invisible enemies well, there's a lot to suggest that they could be taken seriously trump just hours ago, ranted about his trial where 12 jurors made him a convicted felon. he called it rigged, and that he made what you can only interpret as a threat to the courts that will decide the validity of his conviction we have to straighten out what's going on. are these sports. we got a rig deal go this whole country and we've got to do it. and those appellate courts have to step up and straighten things out, or we're not going to have a country any longer now, trump it is disciples, they all have the same complaint basically that the system is somehow stacked against them and that they all have the same cure for that tearing down the system altogether take steve bannon for example, the former trump fixer, who was just ordered to report to jail they're not going to shut up trump they're not going to shut navarro. >> they're not going to shut up bannon and they're certainly not going to shove maga. there's nothing that can shut me up and nothing that will shut me up. there's not a person. there's not a prison, there's not a prison built there's not a prison built our jail built dao, or every shut me up all victory to maga in an almost two while to be true twist of irony, no one is trying to shut bannon up. he was actually sent to jail for contempt of congress because he was the one who refused to talk by order of a legally authorized it's congressional subpoena so why might trump and his maga allies do this well, perhaps money right after the announcement of this more campaign, funds were given to this campaign than any campaign they think in history 400 400 we should note here, not even his own campaign is making that particular claim, but what's even stranger about this is that trump's allies are weirdly insisting that the revenge plot isn't happening at all. >> now, you might remembers senator tim scott tried to tell me exactly that on this show exactly. one week ago i'm simply saying that president trump has said it himself the best revenge is success. actually actually, senator, i have to correct you on that because room no, you can't. i'm looking at right here. are you probably said we're going to lose when he said a senator, he said it publicly. they didn't show we have well to them i'm happy to debate. he said they did it to me, so they had to do it to them. do you support that, abby? >> i know you are this is why the ratings on cnn are so low. the bottom line is simply this without question, president job has looked me in my eyes in a room full of other folks and said, you know what the best revenge is success okay. >> so you and the senator can read the former president's promises yourself. he promised to prosecute his perceived enemies in plain english, like this post that he made just hours ago on truth social. it's pretty short indict the unselect j6 committee and joining me now, dr. phil, who's interview with the former president just aired. thank you very much for joining us tonight. you're clearly sympathetic to trump, but you believe that he should drop up this talk of revenge. did he commit to not pursuing that if he was elected president well, first off, i'm sympathetic to what trump has gone through in this particular trial because i think it was not proper due process for him i would say the same thing a bit was biden or anyone else in that process. >> so i want to be clear right? yeah. would you mind tell us why you think he didn't get due process? >> i mean, the proceedings we had reporters in there. i was there for a lot of it there was a judge and he adjudicated a lot of these questions. why do you think he wasn't given a fair process well, i think it's a number of things. >> i think they're from a jury standpoint. and again, let me be clear. i'm not a lawyer. i look at it from in terms of what the jury was given to solve this puzzle. and i think they heard some things that were very prejudicial that had nothing to do with solving the problem of the case at hand. i think there were some things that are considered black letter law or horn book law that's just really not something that is controversial at all that was violated. i think you don't have someone that is considered to be an accomplice in crime that has pled out or made a non-prosecution agreement and allow that information in to the judges the jury's awareness. because it's very prejudicial and is not really probative of anything that they're asked to be problem-solving or consider who are you referring to? there doctor filled i don't want to get too deep into the law here, but it is not uncommon at all for people who are accomplices to crimes, people who have taken plea deals, non-prosecution that is not uncommon at all for for those people to then testify in subsequent trials for their alleged coconspirators. that's kind of how a lot of these prosecutions work well really give me examples of where that has been considered appropriate i mean, it looks prosecutors are prosecuting organized crime all the time and in a lot of those cases, they are relying on coconspirators to put people who are at the higher levels of the organization behind bars. i just i don't understand how you can say that because someone signed a not or was not prosecuted, sayyed a non-prosecution agreement that information or their testimony cannot be presented before the jury if they were a part of the alleged scheme you'll have to give me an example to respond to because i just simply don't agree with that. i think it's not typical for juries to do this. i've spent most of my career. >> it happens in modern uses all the time i don't like it. look, doctor dr. phil, i mean, i don't understand why you would think that michael cohen, who is a key person in a lot of the narrative here, should not have been allowed to testify in this case. is that what you're saying? >> that's not what i'm saying. i said what i said. i think the fact that he made an agreement to say that he is guilty of the crime that the defendant is being tried for prejudices the jury that, hey, here's someone is supposedly and accomplish that has said, i'm guilty of this. that prejudice is a jury about to the person that's currently on trial for the same crime. >> i have some quibbles with what you're describing as the same crime michael cohen was not charged with falsifying business records that he actually did not was not prosecuted for that crime, but i do want to move on because on this issue of what trump is going to do when he if he is elected, did you get any clarity from him about whether he would try to pursue the people perhaps who pursued him da's or his political enemies well, certainly that's a big issue and i leaned very strongly into the position of saying, look, this is not going to help this country if, if you get into a position of power and your agenda is one of revenge retribution, saying, okay, you came after me. >> so now i'm going to come after you america picks up the tab for that. that's not anything that's good to do. that's going to take a time. that's just playing for tat. so you go after them because they came after use and they come out after you because they go after them. and the meantime, what about america? what about the business of america? what about the issues of education? what about the issues of the border? what about the issues have inflation? what about the issues of health care? what about all the things that the people really care about? they're not interested in, you play and gotcha, with the people people that you think. got you we're not interested in that. nobody's interested in that and all that. when you i mean, that's your perspective, what did what do you sense it is his inclination because just today he said, for example, that he would indict the january 6 committee members the presumptively, the members of congress who were on that committee investigating what happened on january 6 are you? >> more or less convinced after sitting down with him that he actually would follow through on those kinds of pledges well, i actually don't think he will. >> i think this is a situation that yeah, it's a process. this is something that i think he had in his mind that there's only one way to go oh and that's to get even and i think i really made some headway with him that that is not the way to go i think it's a process. i think he'll turn this over and over in his mind and i don't think he will do that. and to the extent that i have any opportunity which will lean into this with him, i am going to relentlessly trying to get him to not do that. and to get others to not do that. look, we need to stop this this is a time where america needs to come together, not be playing. gotcha. and going on some kind of revenge tour we don't need that. we don't have time for that. it's not good for america. we need to unify, not be going after people that we think came after us, whether we think they did so fairly or otherwise. yeah, it sounds we don't need this thing. we need is for trump to be going after people that he thinks have created him unfairly. >> yeah. i mean, it sounds like you are you are personally taking it upon yourself to talk through this with him. but for the voters who are evaluating this very issue donald trump is explicitly saying, i'm going to prosecute my predecessor to joe biden if i'm elected, he's explicitly saying he wants to go after his political enemies. he will go after the members of congress who were doing their jobs investigating what happened on january 6 don't voters need to weigh that especially since the argument that trump is making with no evidence is that biden is going after him i think they absolutely have to weigh that. >> and if they think that donald trump or any other candidate is going to do that, then i think that is not what i'm putting somebody in office for the they absolutely shouldn't vote for him. i don't think that's what we're putting people in office to do. that's running their agenda instead of america's agenda. and we need people to run america's agenda. look, we've got serious problems and it takes serious people to deal with those problems i'm not a political animal doesn't matter to me whether somebody is democrat or republican i could care less, don't know enough about politics to talk about it intelligently but i can tell you this from a cultural standpoint, we need people working on the problems that are impacting the quality of life in america, impacting the quality of medical care impacting the quality of education, impacting quality of people's ability to feed and take care of their families and that's not that doesn't leave room to be playing. gotcha and retribution and revenge. that's not what we need. we need people to get an error and do their jobs and if not, they shouldn't have the privilege. that's not a legacy of privilege and we shouldn't be putting people in office at want to play those games. >> one of the other things about this hush money trial, and as i mentioned, i've been i was in court that several days in the trial, a lot of other trump family members were there, but his wife hello, audio wasn't there. we didn't see barron trump who just graduated and is headed off to college. what did the former president say about his family and how they are taking in all of this and his now 34 felony convictions he admitted that it's very difficult on them, but this is tough on them and it's taken a toll. i asked him straight up, have you considered the fact that this is not worth it, that the price that your family has to pay for all the blowback and all the criticism and all of the disruption on them is there a point at which it's just not worth it? have you considered that? and do you think about it? and he says he does think about it is very difficult to watch them go through this sometimes and that he's convinced that they want him to continue on but he had missed it. it is absolutely taking a toll on them do you think donald trump, based on where he is, right now, do you think that he has the character to be the next president of the united states. >> i'm talking about character and what you were talking about, which is our is he going to work for the american people or is he going to work for himself? what do you think well, i think that's for the voters to decide. >> and if he continues to talk about retribution, revenge then they're going to have to make a decision if that's what he's running on. then i think people would say, i don't think that that's where i want to place my vote and i hope that's not what he intends to do. i hope it's not what he's going to do i think he's made a commitment during the interview that i did with him, that that's not what he's going to do. and i hope as he moves further along and here's more voices like mine voices like yours that say that's not what we want, that's not what we need. i think he'll get the message that look, nobody wants that. that's that's running your agenda, not our agenda and that's what we need to say to all of these candidates, including donald trump before you go in the interview, there was a moment at which you said the argument that president biden can't stop the trump prosecution in georgia because it's a state case, you call that an explanation for stupid people but it is also true that the president of the united states cannot interfere with the state prosecution. >> that's not how the legal system works why is that a position that you're repeating even though it's very clear that that's not the case. >> that is not the case in terms of strict law. but i think if anybody believes that parties on either side get together and get something done, if they want it done, i think is very naive. that's not the way things are kind of coordination that, that frankly, doctor phil, there's no evidence of but you're also saying if that coordination happened, for example, in the hush money case, you would have called that a scandal. so why would president biden do that in georgia interfere with a state case that he has nothing to do with i didn't say that about georgia, actually, i said that about the case in new york so you're wrong about that. i my parties but in the case in new york specifically, i mean, if if biden waiting to make that prosecution happened, he would consider that a scandal. >> if he weighed in to make it not happen. why would that not? not be a scandal i'm not saying it wouldn't be a scandal, but i'm saying if you really think that party politics don't cross state lines federal versus state lines, that there aren't meetings and people talk about this and make decisions about what's best for the party and sometimes that's probably works to the good of the people. >> sometimes maybe it doesn't but if you think that there aren't politics that goes into some of these decisions. i think that would be a naive physician while luck, all i'm saying is that there's no evidence that that happened one way or well, we agree on that point. >> dr. phil. thank you very much. thanks for joining us on that interview tonight. >> thank you end up next, president biden says whether he would pardon his son if he is convicted plus on this 80th anniversary for three of d-day, tom hanks speaks out on what he thinks of a potential second trump term and did a founding member of the black panther party endorse donald trump, conservative outlets are running with this story, but his grandson wants to respond and he'll join me live. >> this is news nine the sirens are going off the tornado here you cannot out swim this. >> you cannot outrun it really does a terrifying experience. >> it is the stuff of nightmares you just here feel it my eyes and my throat or bahrain. >> i'm thinking i'm going to die and i thought that was it. >> along with earth, with the liev schreiber sunday vietnam on cnn, allergies with allegro. >> they won't stop me nothing beats allegro. >> it's the fastest non drowsy 24 hour allergy relief live. >> your greatness named 2024 the world car the year north american utility vehicle of the year and one of car and drivers, ten best suvs innovation can be ever so rewarding the triple crown awarded three rokia ev nine, lisa, especially tag 2024, ev nine light long range for 399 a month from having their stuff to shine in their coats. and people switch their dogs foods. >> the farmers dog, the effects can seem like magic, but there's no magic involved it's just smarter, healthier pep food. >> it's amazing what real food can deal with this. let's romantics welcome. i'm your host checkup hi, i wish weather getting up here. fine, but i think we're just going to go up to bat and we believe it goes mother, is buried in the meanwhile at a vrbo. >> when other vacation rentals have low privacy? 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is it case closed? are being or should it be? i mean, i don't believe him. >> let me say why he is betting the odds. the fact is, it's highly unlikely that hunter biden will be convicted. it's probably going to be a hung jury think of it. this is a jury in wilmington, delaware in the last election, 26,000 people in wilmington voted for joe biden, 3,500 voted for trump the bidens over adored in wilmington. so it's very easy for biden to say this. i can guarantee you he will not say this about the trial and september on which hunter is charged with tax evasion are saying trump, a biden is you think that biden would actually pardon hunter biden despite him saying pretty yeah. says there he would now, but he knows that he's not going to be convicted. he did not say that about the trial in september because they're the stakes are much higher he's he's accused of tax evasion and the money on which he failed to pay taxes came from foreign sources and is linked to influence buying. in other words, divide the influence of his father they can actually track the payments to various biden members, including payments for joe biden's mortgage, but just to be clear, there's actually not any evidence linking any of hunter biden's wrongdoings to joe by warren, correct? thank you are incorrect. we have statements they've been presented in the house of representatives because he paid back alone and how by a car because he prison hi, joe biden's household bills has been luck it republicans had that evidence that you are suggesting they do, they would have impeached him by now and they haven't jamal. >> i want the audience to know that they do have it. >> use it if we've got it, this just smoking. listen to good one here's, here's the thing is there, is there a world where we imagine that donald trump, what lead prosecutor and from who has worked for president obama come in an investigate one of his children, indict one of his children, let that child go to trial and then say he would not pardon him. >> donald trump would turn the tables over instead of lead any of his kids go through this. joe biden has already proven he's willing to stand up for the rule of law in a way that we could all never imagine donald trump to do. >> i think the idea of a truces great. but let's say this to have a law. they're truly mean a truce. well, because my night dr. phil was talking about, he used that word before a truce in the lawfare in this battle in court between members of the biden administration and trump. the fact is for that to happen. biden has to call governor kathy hochul and asked her to pardon trump. otherwise, it's like asking asking for a truce now, after 34 count, i'm going to arrow, but to be clear, it's like asking me all to lay down its arms the day after hamas violated israel necessary truths might be necessary if there were actually any evidence of biden seeking to influence the prosecutor. >> that is dr. phil is up is a charming man, but there's a reason we don't let psychologists practice law. what he describes this need for a truce, for example assume things that just simply we don't exist. i mean, it is convenient for donald trump to say that my political enemy convinced a grand jury of citizens in manhattan and a trial jury in manhattan, and an independently elected local prosecutor and an independently elected judge to all conspire against me and therefore, this is biden's fault, but that's just not sensible. it's just not true. it's just not the way the system works going to trump cases yesterday that were effectively put on hold indefinitely, that happened to that is the legal system working in favor. right. but back to this one you don't want to talk about that? >> well, i do want to talk about reason because every day now the biden administration is labeling trump a convicted felon, very untrusting very interest. that is a fact the pods and has requested that the gag order against trump be maintained through the sentencing way beyond the debate this is very interesting if the gag orders and ten, were to protect the jury and to protect the integrity of the trial it would be lifted, but no they don't want donald trump to be able to criticize the government, even after the verdict. and that shows that the real purpose of this gag order is to influence the election usually when there's a gag order, it applies to both parties. the prosecution and the defense, and the jury is sequestered. this time, the judge didn't sequester to the jury and only gag the defendants. so every night the jury could go home and hear michael cohen and others on television and also the donald trump speaking outside of the courthouse as he did every day, he wasn't permitted to say anything about luck hit and he violated the gag order. what was it? nine times. so he said it he said those things. yeah. gardner was a look. fair or not. >> it does seem to when judges put a gag order on a defendant, the defendant has to stand by. the judge's order hold on one second. i can't imagine that there's a there's a situation where any other young person maybe i don't know the central park five let's say i can't imagine where they would be in a courtroom and they will be able to walk out of the courtroom. young men of color and say, hey, i don't agree with the judge. i think the judge's daughter is somebody who's going against me know, i think they would that'd be able to tegrity of a judge and then go back in that courtroom and not be sanctioned or thrown in jail for what it is they've been true. the supreme court has ruled again and again that the sixth amendment guarantees that defendant, after all the bill of rights, you live in a different role than i do the bill of rights was written to protect not the government that reputation of the government, the reputation of a judge. it was written to protect the accused, the defendant. and we're losing sight of that. it doesn't matter whether trump or not we should always protect the rights of the defendant. the accused, not the government that's a very fair point. i want to move on, but i also want to make the point that the judge carved out a pretty narrow gag order that was intended to protect the jury. now, what he does about the gag order now is still up for adjudication, so we'll see what he does there. i want to play one more thing from president biden's interview here with abc, he's talking about this debate that is coming up this month between trump and biden, and whether or not he's ready for it we are three weeks from this debate what do you think you need to accomplish on that debate stage say what i think? met him saturday. thanks. thanks. he said or off the wall. i want to be a dictator on day one. i wanted to move in a direction where it talks about suspending the constitution i lived through see already says, remind people what he says and what i believe, what he believes he's about him. i'm about country. >> are you ready for this to be? >> yes all alright. >> errol, do believe him? >> i do believe them every state of the union speech we see a president who has been described as feeble and unable to put two sentences together, rise to the occasion. do you have to remember this is somebody who's been at the highest level of politics for literally a half a century on pure muscle memory we've watched him again and again, again in the state of the union speech off the cuff kind of engaging, debating people right there on the floor. so i think he'll, he'll be fine. then. you just laid out his strategy is really no secret and it's going to be the strategy of the larger campaign, which is to talk about problems in the country that dr. phil says he wants to hear more people amount. if donald trump can somehow pull themselves out of the revenge fantasies and talking about how everything is unfair, the media is unfair in the courts are unfair, and the vienna, if he can actually talk about some issues, we've got a country that has a housing crisis this is somebody who allegedly know something about housing. we'd love to hear him talk about that instead of about his legal problems, we'll see if biden can get a word in edgewise because one of the things trump does is really tried to steamroll over people he did that actually literally the last time they met on a debate stage, everyone, thank you very much for this conversation. and up next for us on this 80th anniversary of d-day, is the world that those heroes fought and died for. now vanishing. we're going to discuss that. and hear from tom hanks plot us. it's. a video that went viral. an original member of the black panther party supposedly endorsing trump. but his grandson says, this is an accurate, i'm going to speak with him sometimes the best thing you can do with intelligence is share it with your adversary. >> if his secret is betrayed, its bullet to the back of the hand secrets and spies, a nuclear game sunday at ten on cnn at morgan stanley old school hardware 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and skill in this battle, we will accept nothing less than full victory and it was victory that they ultimately had. but there was a cost, 4,400, didn't survive that de 2,500 of them were us forces. more than 400,000 americans were killed in that war. and there's no question that the world, as we know it, is a measurably better because of their current and their sacrifice but it is that world, those brave men fought for. is it vanishing slowly president biden spent today in normandy and he issued a warning the fact that they were heroes here that day does not absolve us from what we have to do today democracy is never guaranteed every generation must preserve it defended, and fight for it the actor tom hanks is also in france and for the saving private ryan actor who spent so much of his career working with veterans and telling their stories. >> he shares that concern do you worry about the united states in case the, in terms of its commitment to democracy and freedom and everything, these people died four, if there's a another trump, i think there's always a reason to be worried about the short term, but i look at the longer-term of what happened. >> i think there is a there is ongoing look our constitution says we, the people united states, in order to form a more perfect union that journey to a more perfect union. as missteps in it, we know week i can catalog them as much as you can and you're a professional journalists and i'm just a guy that makes movies and reads books and a historic and okay. to late historian take that to over the long term, however in ebitda, billie made progress towards i think that more perfect union. that's what it would. and how does it come about? it comes about because not because of somebody's narrative of who is right or who is a victim or not. it comes out of the slow melding of the truth to the actual practical life i've that we end up living. it comes down to the good deed that is that is practiced with your neighbour, with your local birch's. and i will always have faith that united states of america and the western societies that have adopted more or less the same sort of democracy cannot help but turn towards what is right? >> turning me now a cnn presidential historian, tim naftali, you heard there tom hanks, he's optimistic, but i think the question on everybody's minds is what happens if there are no safeguards? what happens if there are no circuit breakers that prevent the catastrophic from happening? are you as confident as he is? >> well, we just saw a group of americans find a former president guilty in a criminal trial the very fact that someone who was once our head of state could be found guilty in a court of law shows the strength of our judicial institutions. and it shows the circuit breakers, if you will, that do exist whether or not former president trump will have an opportunity to try to dismantle those institutions. it depends on the american people in november, but he's already told us what he wants to do. so in a sense, he is challenging the american people and they have to respond. >> can i, can i just add onto what you just said because the other person who is challenging the american people is former secretary of state, former first lady hillary clinton. she wrote this 80 years ago today, thousands of brave americans fought to protect democracy on the shores of normandy. this novak number, all we have to do is vote for that. she's actually getting a lot of blowback, a lot of criticism. do you think that's warranted? >> well think of it this way. abbe d-day is the worst-case scenario. when when everything else falls apart and nations have to come together to overthrow militarily. >> a dictatorship that is controlling a continent i think the argument that we're seeing, not just in the united states, but throughout europe and other parts of the world is that there are people using rhetoric right now that is authoritarian dictator, dictatorial rhetoric. and if we take those people at their word than we have to be very, very worried when people start describing opponents as vermin, which former president did when people talk about the importance of being a dictator from day one on when people criticize the fact ii trial and describe it as a soros trial, which is frankly a dog whistle to anti-semites, then you have to begin to wonder what kind of world do they want. and that is the kind of world that in the 1930s change the nature of european security, which led to 1944 that doesn't mean i do 40, 40 is inevitable, but it means that we have to take the language, the rhetoric seriously of those who want to be dictators, whether here or abroad, it's been really stunning to see so many people saying, let's move on, why did we keep talking about this? but obviously as you just pointed out the lessons of that time period, echo for a generations and they still echo today. tim naftali, we appreciate you as always, bring that perspective. thank you. >> a, 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panther party says that his grandfather does not, does not endorse donald trump. >> they're being forced to speak out because of this video of david hilliard that was posted on social media i think the trump is qualified decent approach to having somebody representing america yeah. >> i agree with you and trump's the friend of african americans. he's always been a friend of black people that was recorded by a woman named carol denise mitchell, who didn't take the video down at the family's request, but helium is family is alleging that he was being tricked and taken advantage of his grandson, eric jones joins me now. >> eric, thank you for being here. i want to just ask you though, to start off. your grandfather explains in this video that was posted originally that he had a relationship with donald trump in the 1960s because of real estate in new york has he ever told you stories about his time with the black panthers and donald trump at the same time hey, abby, i wanted to thank you for the opportunity to do this, for my family first, i would like to say that my grandfather doesn't endorse either candidate array candidate he doesn't know the state of politics currently as to if he had spoken about trump in the past he may say things confusion. he wouldn't it's nothing to there's no real linear basis to it may just speak it's just because of the name that he knows. this can you lady can you just tell us a little bit about what you think is going on? >> i mean my understanding is that your grandfather is suffering from some mental decline. is that right yeah. >> what's going on? it's just this lady who we never heard of or never seen. it just showed up. but qarrah, my grandmother's face and broadcast it to online and it's completely unacceptable it is. this is some cancer, but we're really actually that i have to continue to talk about the status of my grandfather's health care to the world. this is not anyone's business and it shouldn't be broadcast at all. this is very i totally understand. i totally understand that. i mean, it really isn't anyone's business, but your own and your families. i just want to point out, carol denise mitchell, she lives at the same retirement home. is your grandfather? we did reach out to her and spoke with her today and here's what she said in part quote, i would like to deny hi any reference to my misleading of mr. david hilliard and the family is just going to have to get used to the fact that he supported donald trump and they can't un-ring the bell. he said what he said, and he meant what he said. and i stand behind my interview 1,000% what's your reaction to that have no reaction. >> that's a joke slater's, i have any any basis for what he meant? >> she just acted like she didn't know who he was before she could she nobody man service, you know what he stands for this is a joke what do you think is behind this whatever she's doing here, i mean, why would why would she want the world to believe that your father endorsed donald trump or anyone else? because she's looking to garner followers for whatever type of party or candidate or cold or whatever she imagines herself doing. i had i had no truer understanding of her goal or what she's trying to attain. >> but we are trying to figure that out. >> do you think that she tricked him into making those statements? >> i have no clue of what and how the conversation with him. i haven't gone. >> would've went, but i think that she misled him and let him do saying things that were favorable to whatever she wanted to accomplish and our understanding was that she took the video down at the family's request. >> is that how you believe things went down? >> yeah look at our encoder to take the video down, please. and she said, oh yes, i'll take the video down. i'm sorry. and listen that and then we parted ways. you saw her in person yes. >> okay. i understand. all right. eric jones. thanks for clarifying that and honestly, i mean, i know what it's 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and we are still waiting on a health care plan, by the way. >> well, thank you for watching news night. laura coates live starts right now steve bannon is now the latest trump ally ordered to go to prison and he's got just report ten days before trump learns whether he might go to neither of them intend to go quiet hi, plus an alleged serial killer who wrote a manual on how to torture and kill the new disturbing document in the gilgo beach murders local prosecutor who leaves he's that case will be my guest tonight and bad boys. >> bad boys. what a movie goal is going to do. does the fete of the summer box office ride or die on the new bad boys? movie, what hollywood might be thinking tonight on marco's live let's, begin with steve bannon, one of the architects of donald trump's political success today, failing, that his own bid to stay out of