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stories and many more all coming in right here to cnn news central right now in the jury in donald trump's hush money criminal trial, we're looking at going into ten hours here should be the 11th hour, right? that they're going into a deliberations exactly. sources saying the former president is in the courthouse, is watching coverage of this pivotal moment is he is awaiting what could be a historic bernick. this morning before deliberations continued for a second day, juror sent the judge a new note. they were asking for clarification on the jury three instructions, including those related to count one of trump's 34 charges. jurors also rehearse testimony from key prosecution witnesses. >> national enquirer publisher, david pecker, and trump's former attorney, michael cohen. they specifically wanted to hear what each man said about the 2015 meeting at trump tower? and what pecker said about the catch-and-kill deal with playmate karen mcdougal, including his phone call with trump. cnn's paula reid is live for us outside the courtroom in new york with more details. >> paula, how significant is this testimony that jurors asked to review this morning? >> all right. >> of course, this is such an important moment at in this alleged conspiracy because prosecutors argue that this 2015 meeting in trump tower between david pecker, the head of the national enquirer, michael cohen, and then prospective candidate donald trump. who was the first step in this larger conspiracy to use the national enquirer to help trump win the white house. and it's interesting that the jury not only wants to hear david pecker's version of events, but they also want to hear from michael cohen. and earlier today, the judge read back portions of david pecker's testimony. including where he talked about how this arrangement where he was promising to be the campaign's eyes and ears looking out for stories he testified under direct examination for prosecutors, but this was mutually beneficial. he testified that positive stories about mr. trump and covering the election and writing negative stories about his opponents is only going to increase the newsstand sales of the national enquirer. and the other tabloids. so for me, that was my benefit. and then in doing what in publishing these types of stories, we were going to benefit his campaign. so that's where he testified that he said they were both mutually both parties. we're going to benefit from this arrangement and this is something that could potentially help the defense a little bit. this is something that they have honed in on, but they also got a portion of david pecker's cross-examination from trump's lawyers about the trump tower meeting? and he testified there under under cross-examination, i would speak to michael cohen and tell him that these are the stories that are going to be for sale. and if we don't buy them, someone else will. and that michael cohen would handle them by them, or try to make sure to get that they don't ever get published that was my understanding from the meeting. that's significant because they're they're talking about how the effort wasn't not necessarily just to help the national enquirer with their sales, but also to make sure to suppress them stories. but it wasn't just david pecker's testimony. they also wanted to hear michael cohen's version of events there. he testified to something similar. he said that in this meeting they discussed the power of the national enquirer in terms of being located at the cash register of so many supermarkets, if a day goes, and that if we can place positive stories about mr. trump that would be beneficial. and if we could place negative stories about some of the other candidates, that would also be beneficial shell and he testified here too that the point of contact for mr. pecker would be fim would be michael cohen. but again, if you look at michael cohen's testimony, the issue there is that he's also extending this not just a positive stories about trump, not just to help the sales of the national enquirer, but also to hurt other candidates as we know, prosecutors have charged here. that this entire conspiracy that they see ultimately resulted in trump causing these documents is business records to be falsified to cover up that payment to stormy daniels, that this was all part of an effort to help him win in 2016? team and that is how this is being charged as a felony. >> so it is significant that the jury find the prosecutors are going to win, that this was all part of an effort to help trump win the white house, not just to help the national enquirer, not just to help trump's ego, but to help put him in the white house to influence the campaign, subvert democracy. this is a key thing that prosecutors been pushing. again, it's unclear exactly what the jury is going to do with this testimony, but they have certainly asked for a very significant portion of the evidence that they heard of the past seven weeks yeah, they certainly have paula. thank you so much for keeping an eye on that for us. we've seen an legal analyst, karen agnifilo joining us now here in the studio. she's also a former manhattan district attorney, prosecutor, and the former chief assistant district attorney of the manhattan district attorney's office. karen, what do you make so far are what the jury has requested? >> well, with the caveat that it's really hard to read the tea leaves and fair people are also notoriously wrong when they say, oh, this is good for the prosecution, or this is bad for the prosecution. so with all of those, it's a good reminder. yes it's really hard to know. i mean, really all that the jury notes tell you is that there is at least one juror in there who has requested the whatever it is that they requested, whether it's the jury charge or particular portions of the testimony and it could be that they want to refresh their memory. it could be that there's factions in the jury room where they want to use this testimony to convince each other. so it's really hard to know what it looks like though, is that they started at the beginning where the conspiracy started at this meeting, where they decided that they were going to do this catch and kill scheme to benefit the election. it also looks like they're trying to corroborate michael cohen they have to corroborate michael cohen because the law doesn't necessarily require that you corroborate everything someone says he isn't accomplice, which means you have to corroborate it a little. you have to corroborate it just enough and the checks alone would be enough for that. but there's an added cost corroboration that the prosecution emphasized and really encouraged the jury to say, look, we know michael cohen has a history of lying he has a lot of baggage. he's actually convicted of lying to congress so corroboration here so you don't just have to believe his word. there's so much corroboration and that's what i like about the notes, is that the testimony they asked for all corroborates one another. so i think they're really paying attention. the other thing that this tells me is that this is not how donald trump suggested, which is that he can't get a fair trial. this is a journey sorry, this working hard. it's evaluating the evidence. they're not having a knee-jerk reaction one way or the other. they're really working there deliberating. and he is getting a fair trial, whatever the outcome is and whatever the verdict is when it comes to the testimony about that trump tower meeting, as you described it, they're going think back to the beginning of this arrangement how does that testimony helped the prosecution go beyond trump's motivation and get to the question of intent so it's about whether or not this was in order to benefit the election or not, because if it wasn't, if this was just because their friends and he was protecting his wife, that's then then it doesn't make it a felony. >> it's not because there's two kind of issues in this trial. there's was actually three issues there we're the records falsified. number one. number two, was this to benefit the election, and then number three was trump involved and i would say that the first two are proven beyond a reasonable doubt against david sorry, against allen weisselberg and michael cohen. for sure they committed those crimes. in fact, michael cohen went to prison just for this type for this conduct. the question is, can they link it to donald trump? and this testimony that they asked for is all about linking it to donald trump's. so i think they're wrestling with the exact issue in this case, karen, yesterday, we were on air in the afternoon when the jury requested hear all of the jury instructions and our to legal experts uniformly groaned it was in unison, and i wonder then in the end that's not what the jury heard, but they did hear an awful lot. >> i mean, almost 30 pages of rewrite instructions. what did you make of that? >> like it's it's complicated the law. it's very common for juries to ask for read back again. and certain jurisdictions, they actually send the written jury instructions that it's part that it's just the way it's always been in part that in the criminal procedure law talks about what the jury can take back with them and it lists out things like evidence. they can take the evidence back with them. it has other things in there. it doesn't specify this one way or another. so i think you could argue if they intended for the jury to be able to take the instructions back with them that the law would permit that, but it's just one of those things. it's always been done that way. i don't know interesting karen agnifilo. thank you so much. we appreciate it let's talk more now with a jury consultant, melissa gomez, who is with us and melissa, we've had lots of discussion today about the so-called reign metaphor that the jury requested to rehear this morning. >> what does that tell you about where the heads of the jurors are? >> i think what it sounds like is that they realize and they want to understand the extent to which they can rely on circumstantial evidence. so the rain metaphor basically says that you can assume, you can come to the conclusion that it's raining even if you didn't see the actual rain, if there's no direct evidence that someone saw the actual ran, you can infer that based on if it's wet outside or someone comes in with an umbrella or with a raincoat. and so i think that what they're doing is they're putting the pieces of the evidence together and saying, what can we surmise even if we don't have direct evidence of that? >> so there are some examples of things you might wonder about that, okay trump signed the checks. can you infer by him signing the checks that he knew certain details? i mean, am i off base here or these the kinds of things that this might be something there there, they're applying this to that's absolutely right. but what they would do is they would say, usually when you're dealing with circumstantial evidence, you're dealing with multiple things at a time. >> so for example, trump signed the checks, but there was also a testimony that trump was very careful about every detail, every dime that went out you exactly where it went too. he knew exactly what it cost and so what the circumstantial evidence is is if you put those pieces together, then you can develop the story and come to that conclusion. >> and i also wondered when they were when the prosecution was laying out its case, they spent a lot of time obviously focusing on the karen mcdougal arrangement. and it seemed like they were painting this picture of okay. this is the approach that they're taking for burying stories that may be negative. what about an inference that yes, of course that is how they would then approach another negative story involving another woman exactly. so consensus or consistency of behavior, what they were trying to do, what the prosecution was focused on, was a pattern of behavior, you can infer something because this is something that's happens before you can infer something because when you put the pieces of the puzzle together i. can only come to one conclusion. so this is exactly what the prosecution wanted to happen given the lack of credibility of the direct evidence, which was michael cohen, that the jury is not able to rely on specifically and directly because of his involvement in the endeavor. >> they had specific the questions the jury did about count one, and we should remind our viewers, we're talking about 34 counts of falsifying documents. some of these documents are different, right? some of them are invoices, some of them are checks that were signed. invoices that might say retainer when really it wasn't a retainer for michael cohen checks that were signed find some of them by trump himself. they came from his personal account some were coming from a trust and we're not signed by trump. do you see a situation where the jury is making a distinction potentially between those counts? >> they potentially could be. and i think what we're seeing, especially in the fact that they're there hours and and they're asking about count one, they're asking about specific information. they're looking at each counts specifically. i mean, i think there were some some ideas or some speculation that what they may do is just decide guilty or innocent and then draw and then decide down the board but if they're looking and if they're asking questions specifically about specific counts, what that means is that they're going through piece by piece going through the evidence piece by piece, and they're going to take the time that they need to make sure that they're making the right decision. not globally in one swoop, but really taking a look at the evidence and taking a look at each count separately yeah, it'll be really interesting to hear what their process has been throughout this as we await 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deciding the fate of former president donald trump. >> yeah, the juror is weighing 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in connection to that hush money payment to adult film star stormy daniel's. >> and what could be the first ever criminal conviction of a former president. >> cnn's kristen holmes is outside the courthouse force in new york. kristen, what do you hearing from the trump camp today? >> laboriously they're dealing with the same thing that we are right now, which is really just a waiting game. they are sitting off in a small room, him and a group of close advisors, and i am told that they are watching some of the court coverage. they're looking at clips that are being sent to them of surrogates of our allies that are defending donald trump on tv. and they are trying to read the tea leaves of what exactly those notes from the jury meant, and what exactly could happen in this trial. now, as i reported yesterday, they did believe or at least they hoped that they saw some favorable jurors, at least one favorable juror that could lead to a mistrial in this case. but they also acknowledged that they absolutely have no idea what's going to happen next and last for the former president itself, he has been antsy here it's been ranting about the fact that he doesn't want to be stuck in that room. but again, there are a lot of questions as to what exactly is going to happen next. now, does potentially get convicted. i've talked to a number of a senior advisers who do not believe that this is going to have as negative effect on his campaign in november. let others do for pull up a poll here, this is the most recent polling we have now this is just of people who say that they are already going to vote for donald trump if he is convicted, how does that change their vote? 7% says that they are less likely to vote for donald trump 24% say they are more likely to vote for trump. >> and 68% say it would not make a difference. >> i look at that 7% and you think to yourself that's not a huge number, but we're talking about, first of all, donald trump's base, people who are already in favor of voting for him. that is here which number? because one of the things that donald trump's campaign is relying on is the fact that he's base always turns out to vote for him. the other reason why that number could be concerning for members of his team is because both biden and trump believed that this election is going to be decided by such a narrow margin of voters that 7% of his base could be a huge problem for them, but they say they have seen time and time again that is legal peril does not cause problems for him either with funding raising or in the polls. obviously right now, we are in uncharted territory. we just aren't sure what could happen kristen holmes lie from outside the courthouse in new york. >> thank you so much. >> let's get some perspective now from mike wji, he served his community patients director and trump white house. >> he's also a founding partner of the black rock group, might thanks so much for being with us slowly as we await a verdict. how would you assess the messaging coming out of the trump camp? >> i think the trump camp has to keep a messaging that they the way that they have been doing so that they can cover their bases one way or the other is the reporting has been coming in. i mean, this is almost like a the overtime and a sporting event. we have no idea how it's going to turn out. >> but they have to prepare for the next for the next stage of this, which is the political campaign, the presidential campaign, and how they message ada this one way or the hi there, i'm sure they've had those conversations. >> i'm sure they're ready to execute on those conversations, but everyone sitting on pins and needles right now waiting for the final verdict to come out in our latest poulin, 24% of trump's supporters say they would reconsider their support for him if he's convicted in any case. no doubt that trump group, the trump team is looking at that. what do they do with that well, i think they take that under consideration, but this is going to be an incredibly close election. >> it was in 2020. frankly, it wasn't in 2016. and so they've got to here's the here's the bottom line. time is on trump's side this verdict will come down in may if it's this week, june, if it's next week and they are going to have plenty of time to message through whether it's a hung jury, a conviction, or and acquittal. and they can use that. and i believe that number right now, but i'm not sure that i think that number is going to stay static through november 5th. >> there was fascinating to reporting in the new york times from maggie haberman talking about how the former president is quote leaning into an outlaw image, you're laughing. >> but because america loves a bad boy, right? well to a degree, wonder whether you think this might help trump with some folks i think that there is a obviously he thinks that it does. >> he's used the mug shot to raise money. he is associated himself with some individuals that are either convicted or are under investigation at the moment. hellman he even at the bronx rally where he had i don't know what the size of that audience was there, but he had some individuals on the stage that in a normal political year, you probably wouldn't see associated with the presidential candidate. so obviously i think from his perspective and the campaign's perspective, they think that this might be a way of them connecting in that i'm if. you believe this is political persecution. not prosecutor persecution there's a reason why you have these individuals on stage with you. >> yeah. i mean, because donald trump's camp will say that this is representative the fact that he's he has so many cases. he's facing this is a justice system that's been weaponized against him, and that will really concern a lot of his supporters were also reporting that once the jury comes to a verdict, it's really possible that president biden is going to be addressing this. and i wonder what you're expecting, what you think that will mean. >> i don't i don't know that i'm expecting anything great to come out of the biden campaign specifically because i watch what they did with robert de niro the other day it's a little a little too little, a little too late by trying to play the game in front of the courthouse i thought they fumbled that. i kind of suspect they may fumble whatever president biden says if i was in their camp, i'd probably think about it and wait until the debate at the end of june to bring any of this up. if the trump campaign is going to say that this is political why would the biden campaign make it so reinforced that perception absolute? >> mike, great to have you miked up, keith, thanks so much. >> coming up. >> a third person in the united states has tested positive for bird flu. we're going to tell you everything we know about this new case do you. >> 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officials thought, let's use some of our power to leverage insurance companies that underwrite nra claims. and at the time there was some investigation going on in new york having to do with insurance policies, but this action that the nra has brought to the supreme force was separate and essentially it said that the superintendent of new york's department of financial services really tried to muscle that insurance companies and make a deal with them. that's it would say, you know, as you said, boris cut your ties, don't do any more business with the nra. in return, we will be more lenient on your company nice today in the courtroom, justice sotomayor said, if those allegations are true, it can go forward. here's the key part that she said from the bench at the heart of the first amendment's free speech clause is the recognition that viewpoint discrimination is uniquely harmful to a free and democratic society. she went on to say that this maria vullo, who is head of this apartment, quote, threatened to wheeled her power against those refusing to aid her campaign to punish the nra's probe gun promotion advocacy if true, that would violate the first amendment now she said nothing in justice sotomayor said nothing in the ruling would stop government for going investigating gang groups or advocacy groups for true violations of the law, or even stop government officials for trying i'm trying to kind of pressure or use their own soapbox is to try to get their messages out there. but in this case, if the allegations are true it goes too far, and this is what justice sotomayor writing for the unanimous ms court said in the end ultimately the critical takeaway is that the first amendment prohibits government officials from wielding their power selectively to punish or suppress speech directly or as alleged here through private information intermediaries so it will it will definitely this decision will offer a guide to government officials who would like to encourage a certain kind of behavior, but not to have them go too far. >> what's the nra saying? >> okay. the nra had a statement from the group had said this is a landmark victory for the nra all who care about our first amendment freedom. the opinion confirms with the nra has known all along new york new york government officials abuse of power of their office to silence a political enemy. >> that's that sentiment of feeling like it's a landmark for them, is good, but it's not quite yet what it is is it's on the law, the justices were basing this in their own first amendment precedent going back six decades. but they also said, we're not deciding whether the facts here are true or false. we're just saying if they are true there would be a violation. now it goes to lower back to lower court for a hearing jonas cubic. >> thank you so much for the up to share. >> thank you. >> and still ahead, secrets and spies, we're going to talk with a former kgb officer about the intricacies of espionage and 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nuclear game shines a light on two most notorious double agents. >> here's a preview yuri andropov is the head of the soviet intelligence service. the kgb the kgb have been running the rational life for years under open was getting more and more convinced of the menacing was he was a full-blown kgb person who thought that it's either us or them. and basically better by them? >> you're andropov concludes that the superpowers are on the verge of a nuclear war and so he begins a process of collecting information there would be indicators of the approach of nuclear war. >> this running tally of signs is called operation riyadh joining us now is a former officer in the kgb turned journalist. it's alexander vasiliev. i'm doing my best to get the name right. alex. thank you so much for being with us. what was it like working of course. what was it like working in the kgb in the late 1980s i worked in the kgb intelligence service and it was the most boring job i have ever had in my life. >> because, you know, the real espionage starts when an operative ahead is working with a source, with an agent who has access to top secret information but 90% of operators in any intelligence service or not having it so there are not so like yeah. so it's actually in the work under the cover over a diplomat, they work as diplomats a. if they work under recover as a journalist, their work, they work as a journalist. and i i spent two years training that was actually exciting, but then i spent two-and-a-half years working in the center in moscow in yes, she never and that was extremely boring. and in february 1990, i resigned for vertical and moral reasons and became a civilian journalist again talk a little bit more about that, that you resigned for moral reasons that deciding to leave, what was it sometimes few, sometimes maybe a fun job, but kinda boring as you said why moved to journalism? >> well i was i worked as a journalist since i was 16 and i start journalism at moscow state university. i work then in an and national, biggest national newspaper in the soviet union. so i came back to that to, that newspaper. and my life very soon became really exciting i went to south yemen. i went to saudi arabia in august 1990, and then i went to israel, pakistan, afghanistan. i would never going there being kgb operative because it was too complicated they would they would analyze pros and colons and in the in the end, i would no, i wouldn't go anywhere. so it was a millionaire. it was the best decision i made in my life. >> sure. i how do you think the cold war changed the way that espionage works and the way that agents are used today. >> i don't think it changed very much basically, the goodall disappear now is still the same and it's, it's an integral part of international life, like deploy my shear or immediate-term. so the response, they do, their job on the situation on the situation in the country, we're talking about, for instance situation on america i wrote to book, co-authored two books about the kgb operations in the united states in the 1930s, 1940s, that was the golden age of soviet espionage in the united states. why? because the situation was favorable there is one of the results, so it was that just a bunch if you a few operative stole the secret of the atomic they really shaped the world by, were one of them was my instructor in the kgb spy school you would never guess that he did something like that. he was very ordinary looking man. and i totally eat scope. so it doesn't depend on the number operatives working in some country depends on the political situation in that country, and right now, the situation on america, for instance, is not really favorable for our shot. so i can't see any big danger there alexander russell, you have fascinating perspective. thank you so much for sharing part of your afternoon with us thank you you should tune into this new cnn original series secrets and spies, a nuclear game, a premier is sunday at 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