May 8, right now on san this morning, id tail to the campaign trail, a stark contrast six months out from election day plus y, the judge the tribes classified documents k is just postpone that trial indefinitely a State Of Emergency declared in michigan after a devastating round of tornadoes all right. 6 00 a. M. Here in washington, the sun coming up over the white house, washington monument, Beautiful View down the national mall. Good morning, everyone. The kasie hunt, its wonderful to have you with us on this wednesday morning. It was a splitscreen that told the story of two starkly different candidates and campaigns as President Biden was delivering a speech against antisemitism at a Holocaust Remembrance event in washington on tuesday, donald trump was seething in a New York City courtroom as Stormy Daniels described in lurid detail, her alleged sexual encounter with the former President Testimony that made trump visibly uncomfortable. The judge told trumps attorney, quote, i understand your client is upset at this point, but he is cursing audibly and he is shaking his head visually and thats contemptuous. It has the potential to intimidate the witness and the jury can see that trumps attorney replied, i will talk to him than the judge continued. I am speaking to you here at the bench because i dont want to embarrass him from slaughtered lawyer repeated, i will talk to him and the judge said you need to speak to him. I wont tolerate that. Uh, panels here. Actually, Senior Contributor MarketTalla Democratic congressman seth molten, the massachusetts and mccormick, former Senior Advisor to tim scotts president ial campaign margaret tall, if i want to start with you because the details that the were shared that had trumped swearing and the judge actually saying like, this is too much including included Silky Pajamas in the Lake Tahoe Hotel room she Stormy Daniels recalls joking, hey, does mr. Hefner know that you stole his pajamas . She asks and then she remembers her hand shaking as she tries to buckle her shoes. As shes leaving this encounter, which he describes as well not coerced something that she clearly was very shaken by what did we see unfold yesterday . I mean, its like on the one hand. Its something that seems to line up so much with everything weve talked about with donald trump for so many years now that i think there are a lot of people that are in nord to it that almost feel like its normal, but like im sorry, its not normal. What how are people going to view this i dont know how voters are going to view it, but i talked to a lot of money, but i dont want look now reinsert this thing that would have been a bombshell if it had happened, if it had been revealed before the 2016 race, but it was not until afterwards. It in outputs it back, front and center in a president ial campaign. And one of the political questions is, is that going to matter . We know that there are somewhere around 10 of voters who say theyre truly undecided, which seems kind of crazy because like all this time with all these years with these two guys, you still dont know how you feel, but theyre about 10 of voters lets just say there are undecided, there are about a quarter of voters who say maybe they are persuadable. So theyre not that enthralled with either choice. They could change their mind. If even a fraction of those voters were if their decision were shaped either by Stormy Daniels testimony or by the outcome of this case . And the race were very tight in a key state that could make a difference. So politically its possible that this will make a difference, but i think theres so many things going on. There is the kind of sorted lascivious, drama. And the details that have been recounted. Then there are the technical parameters of the case the prosecutors felt that they needed to put her out there in order to establish the tenants for for what is a Business Crime case. Right. Then there is the question. Its a separate legal question about whether her testimony was over the top in a way that were trumped to be convicted. It might help him on a pyrrole not i think that is as we course towards november, that last part is sort of you may not be besides the point for prosecutors, but it may be besides the point for voters. Yeah. Sure. Well, so one of the elements of this, of course, is that donald trump denies at all happened in the first place, right . So hes saying that theyre swearing talking about this a lot hang these lines. Lets just reflect on mitt romney had this to say about the whole situation. A couple of weeks ago, watch i think everybody has made their own assessment President Trumps character and so far as i know, you dont pay someone 130,000 not to have sex with you . Congressman do you agree with mr. Romney . I agree with senator rob i mean, thats thats true. A lot of people have made their decision and youre right. Weve know these people for these two candidates for a long time. Its even hard to imagine, as margaret said, that 10 of america hasnt made up their mind. I think theres a question as to who shows up . You know, people say those values voters, well i like what trump has done for traditional american values. We hear that this is not traditional american values. Folks, are they going to actually show up in both for him at the end of the day. And then of course his question is being asked on the left. All these College Protesters who were concerned about the situation in gaza, which well get into measurably worse. Lets be clear if donald trump is present, again but will they show up to vote for biden . We dont know matt gorman. I mean, the valley. I feel like the values Bonus Question is probably asked and answered at this point, we i feel like we could transport this conversation back to 2015 minus the Courtroom Drama and have a very soon similar sort of conversation and look, there was a large swath of those voters who were out in iowa were bind desantis, whether its bob van der plats are like who tried to get someone different they couldnt. Look. I think you they will eventually consolidate because any goes we saw in 2016 they do want to win and i think to margarets point i mean, this is essentially, im not a lawyer, but its a Business Records case and sottile to the extent that this becomes a titillating sort of thing and it becomes very laura, i think democrats, but the prosecutors risk losing the plot of this whole thing. And that as we all know, what is donald trump love to be almost more than anything else as a martyr. And so does that Paradigm Flip a little bit too . Im watching yeah, margiela, how do you think what we heard yesterday plays with women voters in particular, because they really are the reason why trump lost the election in 2020. And some of the, some of the lawyers we were talking to as were covering this live yesterday, suggested that the women jurors may actually be the toughest ones. Its a crack on things like this, but im im im just interested in whether this doesnt do anything to remind them of what they dont like about trump, or again, is it just so baked in it doesnt matter i think there is a baked in element to this. There are issues on the ballot that are motivating the way a lot of women our feeling about turning out at the polls this year and abortion particularly in states where this has become an issue, but abortion is an animating issue for many women voters, theyre women who are or not abortion supporters. There are women who are strongly prochoice, and that is going to animate turnout, perhaps more than this because i think this element of donald trump is baked in with women. What youre hearing in terms of Stormy Daniels testimony yesterday, i think if it were going to have an impact on voters, it may go more to the question of voters who are trying to figure out whether to vote for donald trump or not vote ram. And im not sure how many of those are women voters whose views would be changed by this interesting, all right, margaret, thank you very much. First question, i is, i appreciate it. 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Its going in their face and frankly, all of these cases should be dismissed. However, former white house attorney ty cobb had this perspective. Watch this is dirac, this is clear. All shes really done today though is make official what everybody including jack smith already knew, which was she had no intention of getting this case to trial, and she wasnt competent to get this case to trial all right. Were joined now by someone can or youngs in your Times White House correspondent who joins our panel zahlen, there. When when i have spoken to i am not a lawyer full disclosure, but many of my esteemed colleagues who are here at cnn have raised significant questions about how she has gone, about this when i talked to republican strategist, they would often say that they thought this classified documents case was potentially the most damaging to trump . I head of the election. What does this say to you about the judge and about the politics . Well, so we know that a strategy for the former president , as well as his legal team in various this case is, or even in various cases, has been to delay has been to try and file and delay these cases much as powerful. I think its important to remind the public that for this case as well in terms of the stakes, delaying this past the election, also does have a huge potential outcome here, because if the former president were to when the election, he could then order the Justice Department to dismiss this case outright. So the stakes there are huge there are also specific things to 0. 2 when it comes to this, judge, now shes saying right now that we need more time here for it in order to litigate this case for the choices at hand. But also theres been specific choices. Shes its made here that have contributed to these delays having hearings for each of these decisions that are filed by trumps team, rather than having it just decided based off of a court filing and writing which would speed the trial up that you would think so theres also specific choices that you can point to here under scrutiny. Yeah. I mean, then congressman, don trump repeatedly talks about how he thinks the system is rigged against him. Do you see this as an instance where it seems to be raked in his favor absolutely. I mean, he appointed this judge. Shes clearly working for him in that obviously doesnt have to be the case. But every step of the way is pretty transparent. Shes been clear from the beginning. Shes Gonna Underlay This until pass the election. Thats exactly what shes doing. I mean, i should be clear. I mean, i think its important that we all trust our system of justice, that it is not rigged, but the president has worked very hard at mac gorman to convince americans that the whole system is rigged against him. I mean, how big of a relief is this for them . I mean, it seems like it is exactly what they want. Shes doing exactly what they want its certainly went for them. I mean, this was always the weird bargain with someone with several of these cases, but you had the new york one where thats going on right now is one of the weaker and weirder cases of the four. But obviously finding a manhattan jury pool very hard to find one that was gonna unanimously a quick trump just because the politics of manhattan, him getting what i think 12 of the vote there on the other hand, this among the four is one of the stronger cases and i think youre those were looking strategies to talk new are on the right track here. But youre right, youre doing it with someone presiding who is a trump appointee. And so i think that was always the weird navigation of all of these four cases. Jump in i look like i think i think thats right. But the thing is that even when people say the Stormy Daniels case is not the best case, its still serious. I mean, all this stuff is serious and americans should be taking it seriously. And frankly, this judge should be taking it seriously when we talk also just about why this case worried some of those republican strategist as well. I mean, its important to remind folks as well when we talked about classified documents, some of these Documents Reporting has found contains nasher Sensitive National security information. Well, thats why this has made so many around the trump camp and republican strategists and nervous this specific case. It also makes it even more again just to remind you about the stakes that pivotal of a delay that could go beyond the license i mean, its pretty the republicans ive talked to you basically argued like this is very easy to understand. I would not be allowed to take classified information home with me. Neither should the former president. All right, ahead here. President biden, taking on a ferocious spike, an anti hey, semitism In America Plus Tornado is taryn through southwest michigan. And there could be more on the way, plus a crash that could be straight out of hollywood. Its one of the five things you have to see this morning. Qizan lightfoot, dr. Sanjay gupta, listen wherever you get your podcasts hey there, brenda. Its carol. Exactly. So which like are we operating on . You mean arm . Its all connected, asking the right question can greatly impact your future. You sure youre an orthopedist actually, im a sagittarius, especially when it comes to your finances. 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Yes, that line that triggered some of those tornadoes and damaging winds yesterday is still ongoing. You can see those strong storms stretching from Upstate New York all the way back to our console log lightning with these some of them still strong at this hour. Thats why youve got this tornado watch an effect here. You can see a couple. Its almost looks like its split there that will expire here in about the next 40 minutes or so, but its very likely will get additional tornado watches as we go through the rest of the de. And thats because we have yet another for threat for Severe Weather today. It just going to shift a little bit further east and a little bit further south than what we saw yesterday. The main focus point is going to be right here across the mid mississippi valley. So louisville, st. Louis, nashville, back over into little rock, but really any of these areas you see here have the potential for the damaging winds. A tornado, and yes, even some very very large hail could also be an option for several of these areas. And thats just going to add to the total number looking at just the last 48 hours, we had 47 Tornado Reports, almost 300 damaging when reports and 138 hail reports, some of them quite large, larger than golf balls again, even just specifically tornadoes we have now had several days in a row, 13 to be exact of Tornado Reports for a total of 290 Tornado Reports just since april 25th. So its been very active across the country and thats going to continue even to tomorrow as that main system continues to spread eastward all right, while still look out for allison chin chart. Thank you very much for that. All coming up next here, President Biden denouncing the rise in antisemitism in the wake of the October 7th Hamas attacks plus indicted congressman refusing to resign. Weve got your morning roundup. I had all new Tebor Adapt Actress was designed to help me aches in pains. 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I would w0 is helping fastforward the uavs Sustainable Mission im mj lee add the white house, and this cnn now im cant seem to escape the story that she killed her puppy mostly because she wont shut up about it last night she went on the fox news and was asked whether she regretted including the story in her book, everybody on that story for years, thats what most people dont realize is that in south dakota theyve used that story to attack me and my political campaigns for years. I wanted people to know the truth so let me get this straight. Everyone whos heard the story has used it to attack you. So you make it the centerpiece of your book south dakota governor kristi noem, still taking heat for those excerpts from her new memoir. And now were getting the sense she doesnt seem so happy about it. The Dog Storage Conversation i talked to President Trump all the time about the di, about a lot of things. Did you bring up a now for steward with the interview . Is ridiculous. What you were doing right now, id say you need to stop it is did you, kim jong un, some of them who are in the book and some of them are not in the book. Clearly, if youre taking out of the book, its because im giving you my answer, no. And thats not the answer. When you recorded your own audio book, you didnt notice im not going just about my meetings with world leaders. Im not asking you to im asking you about recording the audio. Do you want to talk about Something Else today . Okay. Matt gorman clearly, she has had enough of this. Shes on a book tour still talking about this book. I mean, really its, you know, its one of the things was there was there was a lava see a lot of talk around the dog, but i think among conservatives, what is really kind of opened up was the kim jong un meeting, non meeting thing. And one of the things i took note of was he had a very tough interview on the conservative Network News Max and the host two, i know hes conservative, but hes not some sort of like lackey. And so he was obviously unconvinced with our antigen, really pressed her on it and it was i think another one of those clips. I look, there is a difference between bending the truth and not true. Theres between spin and not true. And i think what jesus simply cant explain is where that falls in it and its becoming kind of current again, just remind everyone what she claims in the book. Yes. Versus what actually happened . Yes. Yes. So in the book in our audio book, she read that she met and essentially stared down kim jong un and the North Koreans very reclusive and fino famously, yes. And it was randomly show up in the United States and meet with governors and it was a big deal when the president met with him, right . Let alone a delegation that she claims in the house and. Now, after theres been some scrutiny on it, she took it out of the book, even though she read it in the audio book. And now shes hiding behind this veneer of well, i dont discuss conversation about conversations implying that theres some sort of National Security confidentiality around not really addressing whether it actually happens. So shell often say i i went to the dmv, but then when somebody follows up and ask yes. But did you meet with the leader . She will she will pause and say, i dont have conversations about conversations that fat and youre right. I mean, this goes towards i mean, these questions are pretty straightforward that shes being asked. You have to wonder and be a little bit surprised that did she not expect to get asked these questions by going on tv and doing all these interviews. But its straightforward. Did you have a conversation that you said you had in your book or did you not . And lets be clear, this isnt any old dictator. This is a dictator whos spent an enormous amount of his countrys resources Building Nuclear weapons, which he says are designed bind to incinerate our cities incinerate parts of america and if youre someone whos competing to be a Vice President ial candidate, you better be able to tell us whether youve simply met with this guy and look, i think one of the things is what reasonably see folks like myoblasts him, scott, jd vance, doug bergen do all these shows. There really look a part of any vp we are really nadp. Youve gotta be able to defend the top of the ticket and being attacked. Dog got to be effective at it. And so in a way, this was quite a Trial Balloon for her as she does this not really going a little bit of an interesting choice of wording there with attack dog. Yes. Thats a good point. No, no pun intended. But yeah, for cricket im so sad for cricket still. I mean, congressman like, can you just take a sense . I mean, what youre youre a politician. You think about how to present yourself in a book, right . Thats what these books often are. Right . Youre selling yourself to people. I mean, what would lead to the set of decisionmaking that we are seeing from kristi noem. I dont know. I mean, ive never written a book, but you would think a book would be a way to open yourself up. You a little bit more honest help people who you really all about. So the whole point is tell the truth. Tell the truth, that people not be, might not be able to see behind the political facade but then if you go behind the facade and making up things and youre not willing to be honest about what youve written yourself but doesnt go so well, the biggest testing thing in many times, whether its nascent Vice President ial campaigns are actual president ial campaigns or what you can control a president ial announcement should go well, you can control almost all aspects of that. A book tour relatively should go well, you can control as much as you possibly can ken its when you dont wake and you can control things thats when absolute things can turn for the worst. Schick can control what you read some book all right. I really underscores the sort of that mistakes were made. Yeah. Shall we say . All right, lets turn now on a more serious note to this in a Speech MarkingHolocaust Remembrance day, President Biden left no doubt that he stands by israel despite tensions with Prime Minister netanyahu over israels invasion of raffa. And of course, amid the propalestinian protests, roiling American College campuses, the president recalling the horror of the October 7th Hamas attack and denouncing antisemitism in all forms. Toobin, people deny Job Plan Rationalize and ignoring the harakat, the holocaust and october 7 including hamas is a paula use of Sexual Violence to torture and terrorize use its absolutely despicable. And it must stop all right. Zola, i mean, this was a significant moment for President Biden, who often, as i know, you cover the white house, often uses addresses like this or this is kind of a preferred way of going about things, but this was a serious moment and the conversations that i was having with some more moderate democrats ahead of time, im gonna get a congressmen to weigh in on this in a second too. Was that he needed to not both sides. It was how some people argued it in that he needed to take on the left of his own party and the way in which there is antisemitism brewing there. What was the thinking behind the scenes in the white house about how to frame this. I think those concerns from some of the more moderate democrats are exactly the concerns that the white house has really been worried about leading up to this and leading up to the presence, comments. Also last week you basically. Look, i think its worth reminding folks this has been an issue that the president and he talked about yesterday, sort of has traces his career both through the senate, but also with his upbringing in delaware. He talked about Dinner Table Conversations with his father, talking about the significance of the holocaust and the need to not four get it as well. I know that white house officials, after some of the criticism they were getting last week around, where is the president on this issue of the rise of antisemitism and protests on College Campuses. They were definitely paying attention in terms of the calls to have him speak out, but also the reaction to the speech shows just the tricky political situation here you know, you had some republicans saying that it didnt go far enough. Yes. Of course it was praised by those who have been concerned about the rise of antisemitic acts that are happening around the country. But you also had some on the more Progressive Wing for our left flank and pro palestine protestors saying that criticism of the Israeli Government shouldnt be conflated with antisemitism so it just shows how difficult this is literally. But that speech is, i think exactly what the White House White house officials and Many Democrats want to hear yesterday. I wasnt what you wanted to hear, congressman . Yes. I mean, i think is all on his right. This is becomes such a polarizing issue that were losing sight of what should be shared principles. One, shared principle that everyone in this debate should acknowledge is that hamas is evil. They have the destruction of israel written into their charter and what they did on october 7 is despicable. Lets start there. Then we can say in this conflict at the end of the day, both peoples deserve right . Is they both should be free and frankly, neither palestinians or the israelis are going to be safe until both are free and both have independent states. And then the third point that i think we should all agree on is henao has no place in this discussion and thats really what the president focused on. If we could start with those shared principles, we can have a real serious debate about what exactly israel should or should not be doing in gaza. But instead, so many people just retreat to their corners and have made this such a polarizing issue that they denied basic facts. And we do have this sort of both sides ism going on where theyre not there are no both der know two sides to hamas yeah. Matt, how do you how do you see what the president did yesterday and especially how it relates to i mean, honestly this is going to be a major issue and remember, i mean, i think its kinda finally, i mean, youre right. He had a very fine people on both sides moment. Two weeks ago when he equivocating and you had still dont know if i would go that far. It mean he was not talking about neonazis yes. Okay was the continent very fine people on both sides in charlottesville. There were neonazis there. I dont think that President Biden wins so far, but it was that sort of moment where it was equivocating instead of making a statement condemning like he did yesterday, about the people who are antisymmetric he was trying to buy also feel for these other groups. I think it was where he equip gatorade didnt have to. I think the other part of this is look, we saw on the reader you have Folks Torching police cars, right . Theres a general sense of lawlessness and where the burden in this country right now in certain areas, certainly College Campuses on people, not follow the people following the law, not the people in people who are encamped illegally or criminally protests are making its antisemitic threats. I think thats where those values are flipped and im glad hes finally addressing, it will say congressman, does it seem like the what obviously you have the war itself and the suffering of people in vasa as a political issue thats a problem for democrats. But these protests that have degenerated into violence, that does seem like something that could potentially impact it negatively for biden . No. No, thats right. Thats right. But again, this is pretty simple. We start with a foundation of free press, freedom of speech. Youre allowed to protest in america. Its one of our foundational values, but there are certain places where if youre protest goes all over the leyen, your intimidating or threatening jewish students, or a university says, we simply cant operate thousands of kids are to go to school and a few hundred or presenting them, preventing them from actually getting an education thats a problem, but thats pretty clear. Yes. You have freedom of speech, but not if you do these things it is worth just on a last note noting that the backdrop to this speech, you do also have this situation overseas heres where are we now are having tanks going into rafah. It looks like that Military Operation is more probable, and this will become more tense as that incursion goes on. There are many Arab Americans as well that are part of the Democratic Party in the United States that are also hoping for the same kind of attention on the plight of the palestinians overseas as well. So this is going to become even more challenging, moving forward. All right, come on up next year, georges former Lieutenant Governor, geoff duncan, who of course has been a conservative republican. Hes gonna be here to tell us why hes voting for joe biden in november plus rfk jr. 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Protesters arrested this morning at George Washington university as police cleared a Probe Palestinian encampment some of those arrested, charged with all assaulting a Police Officer and with unlawful entry, the Dc Police Department also confirmed at least one officer used pepper spray near the campus, but it was not at the Encampment Site Democratic congressman Henry Cuellar of texas refusing to resign after he and his wife were indicted last week on bribery and Money Laundering charges twice does he never accepted 600,000 in bribes in exchange for influencing us policy georges republican Governor Brian Kemp signing a bill that changes the rules for challenging voter eligibility. Along with a measure that would make it easier for an independent candidate to qualify for the president ial ballot and rfk jr. Challenging donald trump to a oneonone debate. Both men will be speaking at the libertarian Partys National convention later this month, kennedy says, hes spoken to the event organizers about adding a debate to the schedule well all right. This morning, former President Donald Trump is waking up at his moral logo resort in florida after that dramatic de, of testimony, it has Hush Money Trial in new york, the Adult Film ActressStormy Daniels is set to return to the stand tomorrow after describing lurid detail, her alleged sexual well encounter with trump in 2006. Chord is not in session on wednesdays, and this is the first time that trump has taken the oneoff day during the week to return to florida while hes back home, President Biden headed to battleground wisconsin to make his economic pitch joining me now is former republican Lieutenant Governor of georgia and cnn political commentator geoff duncan jeff, good morning to you. Thank you so much for being here. I really want to dig into what you had said and britain earlier this week was that you would come out and vote for joe biden. Can you just walk us through your decision and what youre urging others to do yeah i didnt get here lightly. Ive been a lifelong republican. In fact, when i ran for Lieutenant Governor in 2018, i was i was accused of being too conservative tv, the republican nominee and but i think theres a distinct difference being conservative or being angry are two separate things, but donald trump has conflated that for republicans and look, im one of those republicans at one our party back, i want to make a difference. I want to use conservative policies to make a difference all across the country. But Donald Trumps not the right person to do it for us. And the quicker we take our medicine, but the better off were going to be and to do that, weve got to beat him ive tried everything right. Ive tried to support nikki haley i even considered running as a third party no labels candidate for president. But now weve just got to get donald trump out of our system, take our medicine and if that takes voting for joe biden and trying to work with their administration to to to adjust our policies to focus on the border, to focus on inflation then thats what im gonna do for the next seven months. Why do you think so many people are still with donald trump after all this yeah. Theyll, theyll do some sort of postmortem analysis to this. I think some of its stardom, some of it is confusion, some of it is kind of a blood sport for some, just like to see the ten seconds of chaos play out on their social media. You put all that together, you get about 45 support. And thats what republicans keir missing. I mean, yes, donald trump is ahead in some of these polls and whatnot. But as these grizzly details continue to flow out of these porn star payments hidden documents, and all the other just nasty stuff thats plays out. It does not help them when the suburbs and at the end of the day this election is going to be all about the suburbs, whether it be michigan or georgia, or florida, or wisconsin, or pennsylvania, its gonna be about the suburbs. And the suburbs is, does not want to hear anymore about donald trump sleeping with a porn star and trying to use hush money payments to keep it quiet. Yeah. Well, so let me get your reaction to what we heard at the trial yesterday. I mean, the details. Look, the judge said hes at the top. I dont need that many details. Right. And then he said partway through the middle, like were getting too many details here, but i mean, the silk or satin damas he was wearing the way that he was dressed when Stormy Daniels came out of the bathroom and a tshirt and boxers the details. I dont really want to repeat myself about what played out in the aftermath of that. I mean, what was going through your mind as as you heard that and what was going through your mind well, other than wanting to vomit yeah. Look, you can tell a lot about a person how they act in private, right . And just watching this unpack for donald trump how he conducted himself behind the scenes in his personal life, whether it be is personal finance is whether itd be as personal relationships, whether itd be inappropriate relationships that tells me what somebody is gonna do in a real job. And Donald Trumps not prepared to be an authentic leader. I got i got tricked into it. I voted for him in 2016. I voted for him in 2020, begrudgingly, and i made a mistake both times. I shouldve found somebody other than him to put on the ballot but we did and we learn from our mistakes but look, this does not play out well for donald trump. Hes not prepared to lead and think about this. If youre serious minded person that genuinely is concerned about the border, genuinely concerned about inflation Donald Trumps not your guy. Hes a fake republican we spent years listening this talk about building the wall, what he built was a 20mile wide selfie station for republican governors to show up at and take pictures at. But he didnt actually build a wall. We talked about inflation. He spent 8 trillion of Additional Debt just to do what just to get us in debt, just to just to pay off the American Public to try to get votes. Its a dangerous proposition to think donald trump is a real republican for us what do you say to people who say, i mean, i think thats sort of the big distinction in terms of your kind new position here is that you do say you are going to vote for biden because im not look, ive talked to plenty of republicans who are antitrust, but who will write in someone else. Theyll write in another republican candidate. Theyll write in some people well you know, theyll, theyll pick their favorite republican of the moment or their friend and congress to vote for you are saying, vote for biden, di, think that like how do you get over the hurdle with your friends and neighbors . About that particular piece of it yeah. Look, im voting for joe biden because i want to beat donald trump, right . Not voting for somebody or writing somebody elses name and does not do what we need to get done. And thats to be donald trump. And yes, its intense. I mean, just look at my social media, go look at the names that they call my family, go have the conversation for stations around my Kitchen Table with folks being violent, visceral around. I mean, look, this this this feels unamerican for somebody to attack Somebody Just because of who theyre going to vote for. I should never do that as a republican. Somebody should never do that as a democrat. But thats the spot were in. Donald trump has confused in hijack this Republican Party or at least an element of it to just create sow chaos and hatred and visceral. Its not, its not fair, but it is what it is and im willing to stand up and do what i need to do to get this party back in back in place where it needs to be and i think its going to take a number of bold, courageous leaders to step up and do it. I call on other folks of influence. I call on republican governors to stop trying to tow the party line and just say what needs to be said to save your personal politics. Stand up and do it needs to be done. Defeat donald trump, send him back tomorrow. Logo forever, not just for the weekend, but forever because hes absolutely dangerous and hes destroyed are Republican Party from start to finish wow Lieutenant Governor, would you speak at the Democratic Convention if they asked you to . I havent even entertain the idea. Im sitting here focus on on trying to beat donald trump. Im trying to focus on trying to win republican majorities in the congress. Look, i encouraged folks to wake up to the brutal realities that donald trump has absolutely bankrupted the Republican Party all right . Geoff duncan for us this morning. Jeff, thank you. I really appreciate. I hope to see you what next time youre up in dc thanks, casey. All right. Lets turn back now to Stormy Daniels testimony, which we were discussing there in Donald TrumpsHush Money Trial yesterday and historic day in the annals of american law, because this morning, Stormy Daniels took the stand and do what she does best and thats Bank Donald Trump stormy testify for three hours and 44 minutes today or testimony got off to an awkward start. The bailiffs were for an on rolledup forbes magazine, adult film star Stormy Daniels testified today and former President Trumps criminal Hush Money Trial. So trump technically slept with her again the former president s legal team is trying to convince jurors that the Adult Film Star Had A Vendetta Against Trump and was trying to extort him. Trumps lawyer aster am i correct that you hate President Trump . Yes. Daniels replied, the lawyer followed up. Do you want him to go to jail, right . Daniels replied, if he is found guilty absolutely after court, trump yesterday aired his now familiar grievances in the meantime, im stuck. Im here instead of being in georgia instead of being in new hampshire, instead of being wisconsin and all the different states that we wanted to be in, were not able to be there because were stuck in this dr. And court resumes tomorrow im matt gorman. It does seem as though on this again, shes the middle of crossexamination. They did get her to acknowledge she said that she does hate trump. What impact do you think that has . Again, i think it goes to that point at the top, i made where the more we talk about not the Business Records aspect of the case, which is that with the actual crux of it is and more about this kind of titillating sexual aspect of it. And more, we kinda get into the politics of it. It does could possibly make him into a martyr, which i certainly doubt come from. Trump feels comfortable playing in that role. And it could be advantageous for him politically. You also saw the judge get pretty frustrated about it yesterday too you were mentioning this in your interview with jeff, but some of these Additional Details, while obviously were going to talk about may capture the attention of those in the courtroom and the public the trial is about the money, right . Its about whether he falsified these records. Its about the payment and you saw the judge usually a stoic judge in this courtroom really start to get frustrated around what pc to describe as additional detail outside of the scope dope so i would watch that Going Forward two and there is a question as well, what impact will that have as well on the jury to hearing all those Additional Details and seeing the frustration of the judge in this case. Yeah. Congressman, when you talk to the women in your life, what do they think of this . I mean, its just so pathetic i mean, how, how do people continue . How to colleagues of mine continued defending this guy. What we just saw from the Lieutenant Governor of georgia is actual political courage because there is a choice in this election and you may not like the choice. But it is a choice between joe biden and donald trump and lets put the legal details aside. Youre seeing Donald Trumps character on display here. What the Lieutenant Governor said to you publicly on cnn this morning is what a lot of republicans say about thrombin private. They just dont have the courage to come out and say, yes, we need to make the right choice here. We need to elect joe biden, final thought, man, i thought it was interesting though he went after trump, not on stuff that happened after 2020, but on the border and immigration and were seemingly kind of siding with biden on those things because ive never heard that among a republican voting for trump before essentially saying that it was an effective where you heard the argument republicans criticized chunk for that during the primary came a little bit, but he didnt build the law true, but its a congress monte point, right . Its a choice between biren, trump the record is is stark and so that was the first time ive heard not a democracy argument like that, but more of a immigration and others argument. Yeah. All right. Well, weve finished. Are you having more conversations about Stormy Daniels here in the future so for today, i will leave you with this get ready for 1 trillion of these guys to take over the us. It is the one of the largest arrivals of periodicals the khader, as in centuries. But it is this social media posts from dupage forest preserve. Its getting a lot of love and attention then after its low informational video and Cicada Reenactment was released the males will go crawl up to the tops of the trees and start singing to attract mates if they want to show that a male is worthy on her, she will flick her wings at him and they will make say girl, if i was a fruit fly and land on you first oh god, comments ranged from wasnt expecting as the keita rom com today, two are those actors are real is a ketose because i cant tell even the president isnt immune from these bugs. Oh dear all right that note, thanks to our panel. Thanks to you. For joining us. Dont go anywhere. Im casey haunt the cnn new central