good morning. welcome to cnn this morning. it is saturday, november 25th. i'm victor blackwell. >> i'm isabel rosales. thanks for joining us. >> good to have you along this morning. we are waiting for the release of more hostages beings held by hamas. an israeli official says 14 hostages will be released today. in exchange, 42 palestinian hostages will be released. this is day two of four. it could bring 50 hostages home. 13 are israeli, ten are tai citizens and one be is filipino. the video was released by hamas and cnn had no control over its content. you can see several foreign nationals getting out of a mini van and a female hostage and at least one child. and there were cheers as those freed hostages arrived at hospitals near tel aviv. right now they are undergoing medical checks. officials say they are in good physical condition giving hope to families of those still being held. >> i can tell you this morning that we have a sign of life from my father. we know he's alive from other people from the community who were released yesterday. it brings a lot of hope and yet together we feel very urgent to let them all out. we don't know how much time they're going to be able to hold on there. >> now this is a temporary truce in negotiations. in return for the freed israeli hostages, israel released 39 palestinian prisoners who were carried throughout the streets of the west bank. videos showed the crowd waiving flags. the released palestinians included women, girls, male teenagers. 150 palestinian prisoners are set to be released during the four day truce. >> cnn is carrying the developments. we'll start with becky anderson. the truce is holding this morning. we're waiting for the next release of hostages. the number we're getting is coming from israelis. tell us more about the expectations. >> reporter: that's right. israeli officials suggesting that there will be 14 israeli hostages released today in exchange for 42 palestinians in israeli prisons. now that is per israeli sources specifically. as we understand it from diplomatic sources that i have been speaking to, the list that needs to be delivered is part of the obligation every day for these releases included 13 israeli hostages. so there is a bit of conflicting information there, but as the day proceeds perhaps it will become clearer exactly why that conflict is there. what we had yesterday on day one was effectively, victor, a proof of concept, a sigh of relief for the families of the 13 israeli hostages who were released. and as you saw, celebrations for the families of the palestinian prisoners who were released. so it is now day two. it is 2:00 in the afternoon here in dojh. 1:00 in the afternoon in gaza and if the plan proceeds according to what happened yesterday, in about three hours time we should expect to either see or at least hear that the hostages being released by hamas are on the move again. yesterday the process was that the prisoners were released into the hands of the international committee for the red cross. that was in an area of southern gaza. they then made their way down to the border crossing in a convoy alongside ten thais and one filipino. this was a bit of a surprise. these hostages were released at the same time as those who were included in this agreement between israel and hamas, but it was a separate track through which these foreign nationals were negotiated. so a bit of a surprise, which meant that twee saw 24 hostages in total yesterday. they were taken by the red cross down to the rafah crossing border and then transferred to a southern israeli crossing where they crossed back nice rail and into the hands of the idf. oren will bring us back up to date on how those hostages are and, you know, how their families are reacting to having them home. there was three families involved in that release of 13 yesterday and implicit in the understanding is that hamas whether, it says, try and keep families together. so what do we know today? well, we know that the list is now available to the israelis. they know who is on this list. we know that there are 35 children still believed to be held hostage and 8 mothers of hostages of child hostages still being held in captivity. we should expect to see quite a number of children today included in whether 13 or 14 released today. quite a number of children. after all, let's remember, this deal was put together very specifically to allow for the release of women and children in the first instance. so that is what we can expect today. in a couple of hours' time expect to hear or see, most likely hear, that these hostages are on the move and then we move on from there per the sort of procedure that we saw yesterday. that is the expectation. so what are we learning now? more about the condition of those who were released on friday. cnn's oren liebermann is in te aviv. you were at the hospital where they were reunited with their loved ones. what are you hearing? >> reporter: becky, i was at wolfson medical center which focused on five of the elderly hostages released, elderly women, arriving between 9 in the evening, 11:00 at night. they are in stable condition. some of the families, certainly not all of them, but some of them have released pictures from their reunions. simply unbridled joy of the chance first to see they are out of hamas captivity but back in their arms being treated, being cared for. we got a similar statement from snider medical center. the hospital says they are in good condition. similarly, some of the families have chosen to put out pictures of the reunions. it is that same joy especially with the children being with their families, being able to hold them, celebrate with them and that comes across clearly from the pictures that have been released. both hospitals asking us to respect the previous sis of the families. both have set up specific wings for the freed hostages so they can be with their families and have time to recoup perfect rate here. it's not just medical and physical checks they'll have to being through, it is mental health checks. the hospitals have psychologists on stand which. at least for the children, they've tried to make it feel as little as possible like a hospital, trying to make it in that sense seem almost like a luxury hotel, with games, teddy bears, anything possible to try to remind them and show them that they are in had a safe place at this point. both hospitals effectively put out statements or came out with statements last night saying there wasn't a dry eye in the room during the reunions when they were welcome in. i suspect they'll have as long as they need for the recovery there. hospitals getting ready for more intake of hostages later on tonight when another 14 are released. so we'll be standing by for that. >> yeah. good stuff, oren. thank you very much, indeed. before i get to larry, who is in cairo and on an incredibly important pillar of what is this deal between hamas and israel, that is the humanitarian aid included in this deal, which is now rolling across the border from egypt nice rail. let me just bring you up to date on what we've heard on the palestinian prisoners. 39 released yesterday. if we were to see 14 hamas-held hostages released today, the likelihood is according to israeli officials, israel will release 42 palestinian prisoners today. now there is a list of some 300, and implicit in this understanding between these two parties who by the way have no trust between themselves whatsoever, no trust between israel and hamas, but implicit was an understanding from hamas that the most senior of those palestinian prisoners would be released. we actually just heard this morning to be quite clear, that was not the case on the profile of those who were released yesterday. we just heard from the head of the palestinian commission for detainees and i quote here, there are indications of a possible crisis regarding the list of names announced by israel due to israel's failure to adhere to the agreed upon criterion of seniority. longer served prisoners, they say, in the deal. the words -- there is a sort of burgeoning crisis hear. there were certainly some indications yesterday that things weren't perfect behind the scenes, and this is a fragile deal. nobody expected it to be perfect, but nobody wants it derailed either. so i think that there is certainly some sense of if not misunderstanding, but certainly a sense behind the scenes that this deal could be derailed if either side starts knocking around and not committing to what they had said that they would do in this deal. let's keep an eye on who gets released on the palestinian side today because i think that's a really important issue. well, as the temporary truce holds there has been a real optic in aid trucks entering gaza from egypt. larry is in cairo. what's the latest, larry? >> reporter: becky, we're learning more about more aid trucks going into gaza today. egyptian government officials telling cnn that 340 trucks have gone from the egyptian side into gaza though it is not clear if they have gone into gaza because there's two checkpoints, one on the egyptian side and one on the israeli side before it is dispatched to aid agencies. the so this is saying at least seven trucks of gas and aid going in. yesterday we saw a big number of trucks going in. this, if it is true, if it is confirmed, they all get into gaza, then that will be at least 2 1/2 times more than we saw yesterday. the u.n. said 137 trucks went in with food, medicine and a lot of people have been in this desperate situation. before october 7th about 455 aid trucks were going into gaza daily. that almost stopped entirely after the war began. it fell to a trickle now. this, the release of more aid and food and fuel into gaza is part of the conditions on this truce and be this hostage prisoner swap. it is israelis call it part of a framework to release the hostages. this is still only day two of that. it's not a drop in the ocean even if all 40 trucks were to come in because the extent of the need here is unspeakable. 1.7 million people in gaza are displaced. they do not have the bears sick essentials. they tonight have gas to cook. 130,000 tons of diesel fuel, 4 gas trucks. small drop in the ocean considering the need here, but it is still something. that is why, becky, you hear from a lot of aid organizations saying this four day truce is not nearly enough. they need a longer period. they need more time to bring in as much aid as possible. >> larry, good to have you. the deal effectively says, victor, that there should be at least 200 trucks a day going through that border. not quite that yesterday so, again, when i say everything went to plan yesterday as far as the mediation team here in qatar, remember, they have been at the heart of what is going on and they have an observation unit here now sort of, you know, monitoring what is going on second by second. some members of that team have just arrived in israel on a flight from qatar which is very unusual. that doesn't happen, there are no direct flights between israel and qatar normally but they have now taken some of the team from here that's been observing the implementation of this deal minute by minute nice rail to talk to the stakeholders on the ground and try and ensure that as many safeguards are in place so that this deal does not get derailed. none of this is easy. this has been intense in negotiations to pull this off. like i say, the two sides have absolutely no trust in each other and we are seeing these pockets of concern as i suggested with the palestinians saying that israel is not releasing the profile of the prisoners that they want to see. on the flip side, the israelis telling hamas, you promised you would keep families together. will they keep to that? so there a he is a lot of -- there's a lot of issues that could derail this deal. we're only in day two of what is an official four day truce but those involved in getting this across the line are absolutely determined that they will do whatever it takes to keep this deal in place. after all, at the heart of this are women, children, the elderly, soldiers, israeli soldiers. they're not included in this deal. on the flip side, of course, palestinian women and fifteenag. we'll stay on be it. this couldn't be more important. these hours ahead of what happens are absolutely crucial before we see these prisoners and hostages released. victor? >> you remind us this is a multi-faceted deal. we focus on the numbers and the pictures and the faces of these hostages, but there are so many opportunities for this to be derailed by potentially some of those in gaza, those in doja, those in cairo as well. many players here, we of course happy we'll get back to you. thank you. joining me now is the former deputy assistant secretary of state for legislative affairs in the obama administration, joel reuben. also a candidate for a seat in congress. joel, let me start here with you and your degree of optimism. before we get to the points at which this could be derailed, the first 30 hours, your thoughts that it seems to be holding. >> victor, it's great to be with you. i'm heartened by how it's gone so far in that it has occurred. there was a lot of concern, especially with the first 24 hours, that it may not hold. so i'm very confident that this first batch, this four-day truce, that this is going to continue. i think that what we're watching that what becky reported on makes me nervous, the subsequent days, those are supposed to be on a daily basis the kidnapped israelis for a certain amount of aid, a certain truce, maybe more releases on the palestinian side. that's a little less stable. so i feel like we're in a very narrow window of stability before things get dicey again. >> let me ask you about the first hostages who have been released. no americans among them. when you were on with laura coats at the beginning of this before the window opened right after it had been approved in israel you said that this was crucial, this was an opportunity for president biden to show there would be release of americans. how important is that nor them to come out today, tomorrow. >> very important. hamas regrettably is controlling the names, controlling the list. there's no arbiter that is looking at a list and deciding who goes from hamas and it's making its own political calculations. one thing about hamas it understands the pr game. it is going to hold on to most likely americans for a little bit longer as i think the president is weighing in on this and getting this brokered is a win in and of itself, but clearly qatar in particular our ally who has been negotiating this and in closest touch with hamas, they need to get the point across that there needs to be results for the american people as well. there are, i believe, 13 americans is the number i've been hearing. they need to come out and they need to come out soon. >> the number was ten with potential. the president said three could be released. the president also said as it relates to aid to israel, setting preconditions is a worth while thought. senator sanders wrote in "the new york times" this week that the blank check approach to aid for israel must end. do you support considering what we're seeing with the additional aid coming in had, do you expect preconditions being tied to aid to israel? >> you know, i don't right now and i don't because the preconditions, how would they be defined? certainly human rights concerns that we have, those are long standing. those need to continue. that's nothing different between israel and other countries that receives military assistance. up until now israel hasn't received the supplemental request that the president asked for, the $14.3 billion. what they're doing is defending their territory. they're attempting to ensure hamas doesn't regroup. when they violate that, there needs to be discussions. preconditions, once you start putting that on the map, that is incredibly difficult to define as far as what dollars go to what specific outcome. these are for defense systems and the dialogue on the united states and israel bilaterally needs to make sure israel is adhering to international law and human rights concerns we have broadly speaking. that should do the job. >> well, as you point out, that any recipient of u.s. military aid is required to abide by international law. there are several organizations, international committee of the red cross, amnesty international, the icc have suggested that there may be concerns of collective punishment. the blockades of food and water early on are concerns for them. so would those being spelled out in some legislation, you're running for congress, not be appropriate here as senator sanders suggests? >> it's always important to point out the concern and it's always appropriate to send messages to the israeli and the united states and congress can speak to that. they can ask the president to enforce policies. it's always appropriate to say the collective punishment is something that should not be done, but does not necessarily mean that collective punishment doesn't need to be written. that's a known. it has to have monitoring and oversight. in the broader picture, what israel's defense is doing is taking a pause, taking a pause because it needs to take a pause for all of the reasons you've laid out. hamas is not laying down its weapons. hamas is not calling for a cease-fire. hamas is regrouping and getting ready for the fight going forward so i think for israel to be told that it needs to no longer defend itself, that's a bridge too far. >> we'll certainly get into with our military experts throughout the morning what hamas is doing during this period, especially during those windows during which the u.s. and israel have agreed to no longer fly those surveillance drones for several hours per day. joel rubin, good to have you as part of the conversation. thank you so much. we're getting new information in by the minute as hamas plans to hand over the next group of hostages held in gaza. up next, a spokesperson for the red cross, the agency at the center of these hostage releases. that's next. welcome back. i'm becky anderson in doja with victor and isabel back in the states. it is day two of what is this four-day humanitarian pause in gaza mediated by a team here in qa qatar. the first day relatively successful. certainly a huge success for the families of 13 israeli hostages who were released on friday and for the families of 39 palestinian prisoners who were released from israeli jails. so onwards into today and a similar process expected today in the release of at least 13 israeli hostages on a list held by hamas. if it is 13, that is another 39 prisoners exchanged. the numbers could possibly change, but we are looking at at least 13 on the israeli side, at least 39 on the palestinian side. we also see on the ground here -- sorry, in gaza, is the humanitarian truce holding? that is important. there are safeguards in place from the observation team to ensure that happens. the guns are silent and humanitarian aid is rolling in over the rafah border to those who need it most. the process is similar to what happened yesterday. around 9 a.m. eastern time, 4 p.m. local time we should expect to hear news that these hostages, women and children, remember, and expect a number of children from hamas today, to be released. that will be around 4 p.m. local time. for the people of gaza, let me just bring up a video for you. for the people of gaza, let's not forget, 1.7 million people who have been displaced who have been living in a war, here is a little fella. this video was shot at the beginning of the conflict. in it he talks about being terrified what is happening. there is no electricity. there is one charging point on aa generator at that point. that's about five weeks ago. yesterday a video of abdullah was posted online. have a look at this. it is abdullah talking about -- i don't know if we can bring it up. it's a video of abdullah yesterday, a picture of him with the blue sky talking about for the first time in this conflict the skies are completely empty. look at his face, the difference on his face. he says we are happy. the skies are clear. there is no noise, he says. this is life in gaza. that is life in gaza today, victor and isabel, for the children of gaza who have been living through an absolute trauma, of course, since this conflict began some 49 days ago. let's hope this truce lasts. it's four days in the outset. it could be extended. at this stage it really depends. it's so fragile. it depends on how these warring parties perform as far as these hostage and prisoner exchanges are concerned. at least at present the guns are silent. victor, isabel. >> day by day might be too long of an increment to measure the success of this. we have to get hour by hour as we're watching the exchange between the parties here. becky anderson bringing that video of a young boy happy to see a clear blue sky. if this holds, it will be for several days, four days, could go up to ten if hamas continues to release ten hostages a day. >> such a precarious situation. >> yes. this is between egypt and gaza. we're waiting for the release of 14 potentially israeli hostages in exchange for 42 palestinian prisoners. those are the numbers. this is a three to one release. for every one israeli hostage, the deal is three in israeli prisons, three palestinian prisoners will be transferred. they're going to the west bank. this is after a day of a successful exchange. the first set of hostages getting out of gaza were transported from vehicles marked by the symbols of the red cross. >> that organization is a nutd tral intermediary and playing a critical role in these releases. joining us is chris hanger, spokesman for the international committee of the red cross. chris, thank you for being with us. the world saw your people driving those hostages yesterday. can you tell us what your role will be in today's hostage and prisoner release? is there anything different you guys are doing compared to yesterday? >> thanks for having me. what i can speak about right now is today's pea-- potential operations. we have been able to get the hostages, to welcome them in gaza. you've seen images where we've welcomed them from hamas and able to bring them across the border to egypt and back to safety. what i think is really important to stress here is the anguish and also, yeah, the emotions, the raw emotions in this operation and, you know, i've spoken to some of our colleagues and really about what our role is here as to say a neutral intermediary. we need to get people out. once an agreement to the parties have been reached, that's our added value. you have seen this in action yesterday. hopefully there will be more positive news. it's the first good step. something of a trust building exercise between the parties to the conflict. yeah, we are relieved that this happened but obviously the conflict is obviously in a state where more aid is needed but also still hostages are being kept. >> are you given the numbers of hostages and prisoners that will be transferred ahead of time? the reason i ask is because the 14 hostages and 42 prisoners that will be transferred, that's from an israeli official, has the red cross been given those numbers of those they'll be asked to assist with today? >> what i can tell you is that we -- once an agreement to the parties of the conflict -- we are not involved in negotiations. we're implementing an agreement and obviously what needs to be clear is what are the roles? what are the exact timings? we can't forget this is a conflict zone. who is going to be released, where exactly, and that's obviously all information that needs to be clear before. we are kind of implementing an agreement that has been critical but obviously we need to have clear information of when and what is going to happen. >> chris, you had to negotiate with hamas to make yesterday and hopefully today happen. what is that like? and also dealing with these hostages, some of which are children that did not know that their family members had been killed. how is that like? >> it's obviously -- it's anguish. it's a difficult situation for those that have been kept hostage but also for the families for those that have been released, it's something we can't understand. it's pure raw emotions. colleagues, we're clearly involved in this operation. what i've heard is that, yeah, people that have been released, that once they saw our colleagues and once they saw the red cross vehicles, they obviously were hopeful at some point they're going to be in a javier place. now in the negotiations, we speak to everybody that's involved in the fighting, everybody who carries guns. that's why we can do the things we did yesterday as a neutral organization because otherwise if there's no open channel, you can't work on humanitarian grounds and you can't help with the release of hostages so even bringing humanitarian aid into most complex conflict zones around the world. >> what can you tell us about the hostages that remain in hamas's custody. their condition? >> we've been repeatedly asking for access, or that we're able, something we do in all conflict zones to facilitate messages between family members. we continue to ask them and obviously we can't force ourselves upon those that are fighting, upon those that hold captives. what we do is behind closed doors, in public we've been asking having access to check on the ones remaining captive. we hope there's going to be more agreements like the ones we've seen yesterday in the next days so that more people can be reunited with their loved ones. >> all right. chris hanger with the red cross. thank you so much. president biden vows his administration will not stop until all hostages are released. what he's saying about the popotential l release of americ hostages. that's ahead. 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