good morning, everyone. so glad you're with us on this monday. israel's military says another evacuation corridor in northern gaza is open for the next several hours. it is unclear if and how far that announcement is known, though, without any cell service or internet connectivity. and new this morning, further exchanges of fire reported across the israel/lebanon border. the israeli defense forces say two mortars launched from lebanon landed in open territory in northern israel on monday. and also overnight, the u.s. did carry out a new round of air strikes against iran-backed targets in eastern syria. >> defense secretary lloyd austin says those strikes targeted a safe house. officials believe that they're responsible for at least 60 rocket strikes against u.s. personnel in iraq and syria since october 17th. this comes as fighting intensifies in gaza. the medical system there, it's collapsed. some of the images you're about to see, i want to warn you, are disturbing. hospitals are running out of fuel, water, and supplies. doctors overwhelmed as thousands seek refugee from israeli air strikes at the medical centers. meanwhile, the idf says in advance, its ground operation deeper into gaza, arresting 20 hamas operatives, including terrorists involved in the october 7th attacks. nada bashir live in jerusalem. the evacuation route is now open this morning. are people from the hospital able to leave from that route? >> reporter: well, look, the situation is deeply complex around the hospital, particularly around the al shifa hospital. we heard yesterday from benjamin netanyahu who told cnn that there is no reason why patients, why medical staff on the ground shouldn't be able to evacuate. he acknowledged that the idf had established an evacuation route on the eastern side of the hospital, as we know, there are in addition to the patients there, thousands of civilians on that side of the hospital, on the hospital complex, who are trying to take shelter here. they are, of course, completely displaced and hoping to take shelter in what they believe to be a sanctuary. clearly, not the case. but the message that we've been hearing from the doctors on the ground is that in most cases, it is simply impossible to evacuate patients and staff. you have patients who are 100% reliant medical care that they are receiving, albeit reduced medical care, given the situation inside the hospital. but we are also hearing from doctors and doctors without borders that because of the near constant bombardment and nearby fire, it is impossible for people, for patients and staff and civilians to move between the different buildings, around the hospital complex. and we did hear from the idf spokespeople yesterday who denied that any civilians had been fired at, while attempting to move between hospital buildings. but again, the message we're hearing from the doctors on the ground is that that bombardment, that fierce fighting in the facility is constant. and of course, as we know, we heard yesterday from the idf, saying that they had distributed some 300 liters of fuel to the entrance of the hospital. important to underscore, the doctors have said that would only be enough to power the hospital for about 30 minutes. von, doctors have said that the hospital director that doctors were too afraid to actually go out and get the fuel. they have requested more fuel in order to keep those generators going. but as you can imagine and hear from doctors on the ground, the situation outside in the vicinity of the el shifa hospital is deeply fraught, to say the least. >> nada bashir, thank you. new overnight, republican senator tim scott has suspended his race for president. he made the announcement during a live television interview. cnn learning of it the way many of his own staff members and donors and certainly that audience did. >> here's a look at the gop field now. scott is leaving the race just two months before the iowa caucuses. he says he doesn't plan to endorse anyone else in the primary and has no intention of being somebody's running mate. harry enten is here to break down the decision here. harry, how big of an impact is this on the standing race? >> i don't think it's that wbig of an impact, in part because tim scott simply put really did not have that much support. nationally, he was at just 3%. iowa, his best state, he was at 7%. take a look at this south carolina number. 6%. that is his own home state. he was not first, he was not second, he was not third, he was running fourth in south carolina in a number of polls. and then nevada, another 2%. so the fact is, across the board, tim scott, simply put, did not have that much primary support nationally or in the early states. one big reason why, tim scott had a problem. he was liked, but he wasn't loved. so the very favorable ratings, this is the love. this correlates best with how you tend to do in primaries. tim scott, just 18% of republicans in iowa had a very favorable rating of him. compare that to donald trump, 42%. but again, he was liked. look at this. they had a 43%, somewhat favorable rating, so his favorable ratings overall were into the 60s. the fact is, when you're trying to stand out in a primary, you need to be loved. you need to stand out from those other republicans, and simply put, tim scott was basically the type of guy to say, yeah, i like him, but, no, i'm probably not going street for him. >> it was also interesting, a couple of things, one that he is not endorsing explicitly. but also, too, the fact that he said he didn't rule it out in the future. he said, not right now. that these feelings would change going forward. >> yeah, i think, you know, look, when we go forward in a campaign, i think, you know, this is just 2024. we'll see what happens in 2028, 2032. tim scott is a relatively young guy, especially the front-runners for the gop and the democratic nomination. so this isn't his only chance. i'll also note, another big problem tim scott had, he was burning through money really, really fast. look at this. he spent over $12 million in the third quarter. he took in less than $5 million. you can't keep a campaign going, going, going, especially when you need to be able to convert people who may like you into loving you. and i'll just note, this is another sign that the field is winnowing. gop primary candidates, at its peak, it was 13. we were asking about 13 candidates. we're down to just seven today. if republicans want a chance of beating donald trump, this is going to have to keep going down, down, down, and down. get it to one or two people taking on donald trump. at this point, it's dropping. we'll see if it continues. the field is winnowing. this is what's supposed to be happening. >> harry enten, your very favorable rating is 100% on this team. >> thank you. you two combined, 200%. more than 100%. >> he's the numbers guy. donald trump, leading the republican field, has begun laying out his immigration policies for a potential second term. a source telling cnn that they can expect a massive expansion of the hardline immigration policies we saw in his first admini administration. here he was speaking in hialeah, florida, a city in which three quarters of the residents are foreign born. >> anybody ever heard of hannibal electorate. he was a nice fellow, but that's what's coming into our country right now. come 2025, we will find you and we will deport you. we will begin the largest domestic deportation operation in american history. >> trump's plans include rounding up undocumented immigrants in large-scale raids and arrest operations and placing them in detention camps to await deportation. joining us, republican congresswoman from florida, maria salazar, a member of the house foreign affairs committee and co-sponsor of a bipartisan and comprehensive immigration bill known as the dignity act. i'll get to government funding in a minute, but i want to start there. people need to understand what you have put on the table, in a bipartisan manner, is a significant and comprehensive proposal. and it strikes me, and pieces of it are very innovative, if somewhat untested, compared to past proposals. when you see what the former president would like to do in a first term, it seems to run completely opposite to what you've put on the table, which you've called the dignity act. how do you respond to that? >> thanks for the opportunity. i think that elected officials are trying to fix the problem. and during his first term, president trump had quasi-successful run with immigration. but the problem is that immigration is very complicated. very complicated. and what i'm doing, and i thank you very much for praising my immigration reform law called the dignity act, is that it goes to what's practical. seal the border, put order at the border, and then, give those people who are already here, that don't have a criminal record, who have been here for more than five years, that are working, that want to pay taxes, that want to go home for christmas, just give them dignity! i'm not talking about path to citizenship. i belong to the largest minority in the country, the hispanics. i represent the city of miami. i know exactly what my people need. and my people need dignity. which is to work and live a dignified life in the promised land. the problem that we have is that both parties, both parties have not understood what's needed. and on top of that, now you have a national security issue, with the border open, 6 million illegals have come in in the last three years. that's unsustainable. on top of that, you have a business class that is telling you, hey, i need hands, i need hands to work. i cannot find people to clean the toilets or to change the sheets in the hotels. this is a very massive problem, and the dignity fixes it. it's just that we need political willingness from both parties. >> you know, and i think to that point, it just seems that from a policy perspective, a pure policy perspective, what the former president and his team are putting on the table, again, doesn't seem to be taking the path that you're taking. i want to quote stephen miller, one of the president's top advisers, certainly his top adviser on immigration. you spoke to him back in 2021, in a closed-door meeting. there was some reporting about that where you exchanged your different polsitions. the illegal immigration activist won't know what's happening. is it sppossible to support dond trump as your party's nominee if he gets that, given his position compared to yours? >> i think you mentioned stephen miller, and i would love to sit with him and explain to him what life really looks like. what reality is all about. he may write whatever -- i'm sure he means well, but in reality he doesn't get it. h that's the theory. now, what's the practice? it's like communism. it's fantastic what it says on the sheet of paper, now put it into practice, it's miserable. mr. miller, i would love to have a conversation with him and explain to him what reality looks like. because, one of the big problems that we have is the entrepreneurs. the small business owners, the big people that are in the private sector, they need hands. who's going to fill that? the people that are already here. or we need to fix the illegal immigration. the big minds that going to silicon valley or the tech capital of the world, miami. and work. and pay taxes and be part of the promised land. that's the problem. it's the politicians. the political willingness to fix the problem is the only problem, not the policy. that's why i wrote a pretty good bill, called the dignity act. it's good for everybody. >> on a more micro problem that you guys are dealing with right now, you have about four days to fix. there is a -- the speaker has put out a ladered proposal. there are no deep spending cuts. the defense portion is in the second half of that. will you support it and do you think enough republicans can get behind it to pass it? >> sure. listen, the best thing that could have happened to the republican party is mike johnson. because the job, a very big elephant fell on his lap. and i know he's a decent guy, he has conservative, but he is reasonable. so no criticism to mike johnson. he's doing the best he can with the tools that he has been granted. and i'm sure that from here to friday, if my conference gets together and understands that we need to move forward, buy some time, so we can do the appropriations. and obviously, reduce spending, because you know that it's impossible for this country to continue spending $6 billion a day, a day! and it's like, that's around $75,000 a second. let's put it into perspective, right. we've got to stop, rein that in, so we don't have to pay for that debt. so johnson will do what's right, buy time, come together with the dems, and work in a bipartisan fashion, which is what the american people want. cnn, i'm sure that many dems watch this stage. fox, many republicans -- it doesn't matter. we're all americans! and we're all here in the promised land. and we want to continue living the american dream. that's what we're working for in d.c. >> congresswoman, we appreciate your time. thank you. >> to you, sir. >> that was a great conversation. donald trump vowing to root out the political left in a speech he gave for veterans day. brian stelter here with us in studio to talk about the president's warnings and his new book, next. and democratic congressman deane phillips revving up his long-shot challenge to president biden for his party's nomination. he's vowing to p put his ownwn y ininto the racace. what h he tells cncnn, that's s. the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat from within. we will root out the communist, marxist, and radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of country, that lie, and steal and cheat on elections. >> donald trump vowing to, quote, root out the political left. that was a speech he gave on veterans day, as trump is seeking a second term. he continues to repeat false claims about election fraud, and our next guest has a whole new book, telling about the origin story of trump trying to tear down the guardrails of american democracy and the right-wing media's mission to put him back in office in 2024. we are so happy to be joined by our friend and former cnn anchor, ryan stelter. he's the author of network of lies, the epic saga of fox news, donald trump, and the battle for american democracy. so good to have you, friend. >> good morning. so great to be here. >> early in the book, this is page 8 before you get into part 1. hopefully you'll come away feeling the way that i do, empowered and equipped to tell the truth more loudly than ever. you're still hopeful? >> absolutely. because most people want to know what's real and true in the world. and that's why the so-called network of lies, this disinformation machine that includes parts of fox news, but also the steve bannons of the world, right-wing podcasts, all that machinery that's trying to re-elect donald trump, it is important, it's got to be reckoned with and scrutinized. it deserves all of that scrutiny, but most people want to know what is real and true in the world. we have to be louder than the liars in this environment. and the liars come from two different directions. just the other day, i was almost fueled by some ai deep fake from the trump campaign, trying to trick people into thinking that nbc was saying something it wasn't. and all of that noise is is out there. >> to counter your glass half full -- >> come on, on a monday morning! >> what's so disconcerting to some degree, we saw this, you dig in on this in such a fulsome way, is the perverse incentives that create -- fox's internal conundrum of, our viewers want this, even though it's not true, we have to give it to them because of stock prices, because of ratings, bawl ecause of all those things. >> what changes that is a one-by-one, day-by day, personal conversations. the awkward conversations, the numbers that phil might dread seeing, they're the ones we have to talk about, listen to, and learn from. there are examples of that happening. i write about that towards the end of the book. i wanted to write an optimistic story. i had to write it, because there were so many e-mails and texts that came out. and they were so revealing about how it worked inside fox. but also, how it's working to this day. all of these big lies about the 2020 election, they're the predicate for trump's re-election campaign. and i'm glad you just played that clip of him describing his opponents of vermin. that's a horrifying clip, that's a fascist clip. oftentimes, fascism is perceived as an expansionist, war-like idea from the 1930s, from hitler's germany, but trump is this kind of isolationist fascist in terms of his rhetoric over the weekend. he goes to give a veterans day speech and talks about rooting out vermin from the left. that is shocking, and it's not the kind of thing we can ever get numb to. >> one of the things you discuss in here is the weaponization of language. and you use the example of brett bear saying online, he said, we're not going to stop digging and following up on leads. and you write, quo, the language of journalism was being exploited to cover far-fetched theories in the cloak of legitimacy. it points to a bigger issue of the lack of media literacy, that gets more and more dangerous with ai, as you just pointed out. >> 100%. there's a lot of stuff out there that's not news, but smells like news and pretends to be news, and that's what was happening with the big lie in 2020. and continuing to this idea, this idea of an alternative reality, of what they call the mirror world, where you can believe whatever you want to believe. but i came away from this believing, there is still the ability to make change. some people can still be shamed into doing the right thing. there are many republican lawmakers, elected officials who are still in a reality-based environment, who do want to do what's best. of course, what they're up against is that kind of extremist rhetoric that we're hearing from trump. >> what goes through your head when you see photos or tweets from the ufc fight over the weekend, and trump standing with tucker carlson, saying he could be vice president. >> so interesting. clearly, trump is trying to dangle the idea of an alliance with tucker carlson. tucker carlson is the kind of figure, even though he's been diminished, he's trying really hard to create a new media brand on the site formerly known as twitter. he wants to be a trump ally. the reality is, guys like tucker carlson, they think they can outtrump trump. they can they're smarter and more effective than trump. in some ways, that might make them more dangerous. >> big picture, you write about the lack of civility. and as we look forward in what's to come, also the end of an era at fox, in terms of rupert murdoch. >> rupert murdoch semi-retiring. >> what happens to civility going forward? >> i look at groups like better angels and more in common that are designed to start to foster conversation and dialogue. and i think you're never going to reach everybody. you're never going to break through to everybody. but when presented with what is real in the world, most people still do gravitate towards that. and by the way, every so often, in an environment full of this noise and misinformation that you all cover every day, there still are elections. we still get to vote. and there are so many people, from so many parties and so many stripes, still working hard to defend that. that's why i mentioned american democracy in the title. this is a battle for american democracy, and trump, for what it's worse, for better or worse, he's creating a very clear delineation for 2024. he's making a very clear choice for the country. >> when you say "semi-retire," what do you mean? what's the dynamic right now, for people who have only seen it or only seen "succession," what's the dynamic? >> 92-year-old rupert murdoch is never going to retire. he's handing over the power to his son, laoflin. rupert murdoch's death will change republican politics even more trump's descent down the escalator. the fact that fox news could be up for grabs in the future, gets a lot of people talking. it's all a guessing game, because rupert murdoch is apparently in fine health today. >> brian stelter, so many congratulations on this, the second of great books. his book, "network of lies" pick it up, available tomorrow. be sure to grab a copy. president biden facing a growing number of third-party challengers for his seat in the oval office. how he could navigate the mounting challenges ahead. >> and on our first weekend back on the tour -- taylor back on her tour, taylor swift broke the internet again. >> do you want to ststick arouo brian? >> they'rere so cutete. >> thehey're a adorable. they're peperfect. > i know. i agree. bold. daring. expressive. contra costa college allows me to be whoever and whatever i want to be, providing the stage, the canvas, the tools to use my voice and write my story. find your passion and create your future at contra costa college. start today at contracosta.edu well, democratic congressman dean phillips is amping up his long-shot challenge to president biden for their party's nomination. democrats have overwhelmingly, at least to his point, rejected phillips' campaign. phillips says he's likely torpedoed his own politically career, but adds the president is in grave danger of losing troump next year, so someone with, quote, courage, had to step up. kasie hunt sat down with him. my biggest question beyond why, is, what do you think his chances are at this point? >> well, phil, never be surprised by how someone who thinks that they should be president can believe that they can be president. but i will say, dean phillips has had a really rude awakening in the last two weeks. democrats have all but thrown him out of the party over this. but in response, phillips isn't backing down. he's pressing ahead. dean phillips is a long shot. >> i'm congressman phillips and i'm running for president. >> a little-known minnesota congressman, air to a multimillion dollar schnapps fortune, willing to invest that fortune tyke on a candidate who he thinks cannot beat donald trump. >> that's why i'm doing this. >> do you have a top dollar figure that you're willing to invest? >> no, because this is so important. >> reporter: phillips has escalated his attacks on biden since he launched his campaign just over two weeks ago in new hampshire. >> bidenomics is not working. it is actually the opposite. it represents inflation, high prices. >> reporter: phillips is defiant, after democrats rejected him, threatening to primary him, leaving his leadership post in the house amid criticism from colleagues. >> everyone's got the right to run, but i'm sorry, i have no idea what he is running on that is different from what president biden is running on. >> you believe you've torpedoed your own career? >> i think if you listen to the conventional wisdom, bauds on the response of the democratic party, i think that's fair to s say. >> most democrats don't believe phillips can win the anonymous, but they're worried he'll damage the president. phillips told cnn, he'll welcome outside sport from super pacs. that could mean millions of dollars in ads criticizing biden in swing states like michigan. >> it is time for the torch to be passed to a new generation ofmer american leaders. >> key to the democratic primary, but also to the general election. >> so you will take super pac support. >> first of all, as you well know, i can't deny support from anybody -- >> i know you can't tell them what to do, but you can -- >> the answer is, to achieve what we need to achieve, to overturn the status quo, to ensure that donald trump is defeated, absolutely. >> the other risk for biden, a rule change in a state with a history of making or breaking political fortunes. >> new hampshire, tonight, has made bill clinton the comeback kid. >> reporter: that 1992 first in the nation primary night catapulted clinton to the democratic nomination and the white house. working on that campaign for clinton, terry schumacher, who's d dismayed that the democratic party would let south carolina vote first in 2024. >> i was angry and i still am. it was unnecessary. >> the rules change means that joe biden's name won't be on the primary ballot in new hampshire. >> biden allies have mounted a write-in campaign to try to avoid the primary becoming another 1968 for democrats. that year, senator eugene mccarthy upset lyndon johnson. two weeks later, johnson announced he was not going to run for re-election. >> the magic of new hampshire, it seems to me, is that anything can happen here? >> that's correct. and anything -- this year, to me, i think we're going to see some surprises. >> love that. what a great piece and great interview, kasie. what about the white house, their reaction to this are they even taking notice? >> thanks to your team for some great archival footage they found. the white house is taking a posture of studied, we can't see you, right? i think they feel that responding to dean phillips would only evaluate him. and that's how you're going to see them attack this. but i would view phillips and what's going on here as one data point in a much broader universe of increasing concern about president biden's ability to win an election that most democrats think is fundamentally existential. and it's existential to them for all the reasons that you guys have been talking about on the show this morning. the vermin comment that donald trump made on veterans day over the weekend. the plans to manipulate the federal government for mass dm deportations and other things. and there is serious concern among democrats that they won't say in public, that dean phillips is saying in public. so that not only potentially damages the president, but also, you know, if something were to happen in new hampshire, as we outlined there, it's really, actually, very hard to predict. and you know, i talked to one democrat this morning who called not being on the ballot there an unforced error. there are risks here, and this is part of the narrative. and you know, we have also got third-party candidates potentially getting in the race. look at what joe manchin may or may not do. all very risky for a president with stakes in race that honestly -- the stakes have never been higher, guys? >> very true. case kasie hunt, great piece, thank you. well, a murder and mystery in hollywood after a gruesome discovery in a dumpster. what authorities know this morning. and remember this guy? he's making a big political announcement. the details, i guess, next. welcome back. a murder investigation gripping hollywood this morning. samuel haskell, the son of a top former hollywood agent has been arrested in on suspicion of murder after a woman's torso was found in a dumpster near his home last week. the same house where he lived with his wife and her parents, who are still missing, by the way. police say they discovered blood and other evidence inside. camilla bernal joins us live inside. terrible, terrible to hear. he'll be in court today. what do you know about the investigation so far? >> hey, poppy. there are two things that authorities are really focused on at the moment. the first being finding the three people that are missing. they're still looking, still asking the public for help. and the second, being identifying that torso, because, of course, that is going to be a key piece of evidence in this investigation. >> reporter: a gruesome discovery. >> 4115 coldstream terrace. >> reporter: a woman's torso found in a garbage bag by someone looking through a dumpster bin in a los angeles neighborhood wednesday. >> remains are of an unidentified female. her arms and other parts of her body are missing, including the head. >> reporter: authorities say evidence led them to samuel haskell, who was arrested on suspicion of murder. he's the son of emmy-winning producer and former hollywood agent, sam haskell. the 35-year-old lived with his wife, in-laws, and three children. and while the children are safe, the wife and the in-laws are still missing. >> lovely family. >> but your reaction? >> it's devastating! >> that woman that's missing, grandma, i don't know what we're praying for her to survive, to live to know what happened? >> reporter: neighbors shocked and scared. >> i don't know what to say, you know, no human should die like that. >> i don't know what kind of a person can do something like that, honestly. it's another human being, whether you know them or not, it's a human being. and it's just very scary. >> reporter: it's unclear if haskell has an attorney. multiple reports indicate that the torso is believed to be his wife's. and while details of what happened are limited, authorities say the type of crime is telling. >> the murder suspect is dismembering a body, it's to delay identification. so that by implication would mean that they may have been known to each other. >> reporter: now, his court appearance is scheduled at 8:30 in the morning, los angeles time. we'll, of course, have a team there. it's unclear if he has an attorney, but we have also reached out to his father, that hollywood celebrity, really, because he represented many of those celebrities, including people like dolly parton and george clooney. we have nod heard back from his father, poppy. >> camilla bernal, appreciate the reporting. we'll watch what happens in court today. >> let's take a minute to give you five things you need to know for today. senator kim scott dropping out of the republican presidential primary. stunning some of scott's own staff and donors. he's yet to endorse one of his fellow candidates. gaza's largest hospital says it is in crisis, out of fuel, and no longer operational with at least three newborns dying as a result. israel says it offered to evacuate babies and provide fuel, but that hamas blocked the delivery. a shooting at a texas flea market about 15 miles south of houston has left one dead and four others injured. police are still working to identify who's responsible for the shooting. authorities do not believe this was a targeted attack. jacob chansley, also known as the qanon shaman plans to run for congress as a libertarian candidate in arizona. he filed paperwork thursday dl declaring his interest to run as a candidate in arizona's eighth congressional district. he was sentenced to 41 months in prison for his role in the january 6th riot. and drivers in california could face huge hazards as a massive industrial fire shut down parts of the i-10, a major freeway in downtown los angeles. this weekend, more than 160 firefighters battled the blaze that grew to about 80,000 square feet. no injuries have been reported. and that's five things to know for this morning. don't forget to download the five things podcast every morning. in just a few hours, it is back to the witness stand for donald trump jr. we'll take you outside the courthouse. >> tomorrow, chinese president xi jinping will set foot in the u.s. for the first time in six years, as he's set to meet with president biden in the san francisco area. the meeting coming at an inflection point between the two world powers. in just more than an hour, it's back to the witness stand for donald trump jr. he will be the first defense witness called in the civil fraud trial against his father in the trump organization. trump jr. is a co-defendant, along with his brother, eric. they testified earlier this month when called by new york attorney general letitia james' office, which filed the lawsuit. cnn's kara scannel is outside the courthouse in lower manhattan. you have been following every twist and turn of this case. the defense starting today. what do we expect? >> yeah, phil, so the defense gets their chance to start today and they're calling donald trump jr. back to the stand. now, he had previously testified two weeks ago when he was called by the state, but now it's their defense' turn against these allegations that the trump had inflated the value of their properties on their financial statements, and then gave those statements to insurers to get better rates. so don jr. had previously testified that he was not involved in the preparation of these statements. and he said that when he signed off on them, he did so after getting assurance from accountants and lawyers that everything was okay. but when he was called by the state, the state got to decide the questions, and they tried to limit his answers to yes or no. today, now that he's a defense witness, they will be able to set the table. they will be able to ask him much more expansive questions, and he will be able to answer the questions more fluently. he will be able to expand on them and with be able to kind of their narrative. that is the objective in calling him. he is going to be one of many witnesses. the defense saying this could go for several weeks, all as they're trying to set the tone that the trumps did not intend to defraud anyone. if there were mistakes, there were mistakes, but there were no victims in this case. we saw a flash of that when ivanka trump was testifying. she on redact examination by the state answered their questions, but when asked by the trump's attorneys, she was able to get in some evidence that the banks were happy with the relationships and continued to do business with them even though they had these financial statements. phil? >> kara, do we have an idea of who else may be testifying over the course of the coming weeks? >> reporter: so we're expecting this week to hear from a number of these expert witnesses, that the judge on friday allowed the trump team to bring in. these witnesses will be talking about how properties are valued, as well as also getting into how banks would be involved in evaluating these financial statements. so we're going to see a lot more testimony from experts this week. and then they're going to roll out some additional witnesses over the next several weeks. phil? >> kara scannel, keep us posted. thank you. >> joining us now, cnn legal analyst, jooey jackson, and happens to be a criminal defense attorney. this is not a criminal trial, this is a civil trial, but you know defense well. what defense do you expect here and what witnesses do you expect them to call? >> poppy, it's interesting you say about the criminal thing, not a criminal trial, but intent will be so important to this. why do i say that? usually in criminal cases, we speak a lot about the issues of what someone intended and didn't intend to do. i think here, that will be on full display. why? you're speaking about the issue of financial statements. the issue of fraud, right? the issue of all of these banking valuations and the valuations of properties, and whether or not you had a fraudulent intent to do it. so i think what they have to do, poppy and phil, is present the narrator that, listen, we did the best we could, we had acted in good faith at all times. there were no victims in this case, the banks had their own due diligence obligations to evaluate what we put before them. they were making money, we were making money, and by the way, it's a jsubjective process. i'm donald trump and my brand name is huge. and so i think all of that, they'll have to propagate in the . >> the defense chose not to cross-examine most -- ivanka trump may have been wasn't only ones they cross-examined. can the ag's team cross-examine? >> we definitely do. the dynamic has changed. here with the defense, the trump's calling the trumps, you get to control the narrative. again, the narrative, we have the best lawyers, we have the best accountants, we have a vast empire, we didn't get to nor did we intend to evaluate anything. cross-examination, without question. sir, you indicated this was all done in good faith, that's what you say. there's a difference between 30,000 square feet and 90,000. you know that, don't you, you have a due diligence obligation to evaluate your own properties and look at your own statements, you know that too. rent control properties, you know rent control from private, you know the difference between the two, one may net less money and the other wouldn't but you didn't make that distinction in your statement. yes, there will be full cross-examination going to the narrative, this wasn't about not fraudulent intent. they had fraudulent intent. knew what they were doing and did it anyway. >> the election subversion case against trump that's going to be heard in may and trump said this over the weekend, he wants it -- his team wants it televised, here. >> i want everybody to see all of the horrible things that took place, all of the horrible charges, and all of the things that were done with respect to a very corrupt election, and let's let the public decide, because i want cameras in every inch of that courthouse. >> and his legal team is formally submitted what they need to in federal court to ask for this, but this is very likely not going to happen. >> you know what, poppy, if ever there was a time that it should and could happen, the time would be now, right, we live in a different society, i think now, the dynamics have changed, the transparency issues have changed. if you want someone out there talking about it's a witch hunt, the government's out to get me, there's nothing to see here, the evidence is flimsy, this is a case that should have never been brought, you heard that a lot. if you invite people into the court it changes things, why? because people get the see, they get to hear, they get to feel the evidence that's being presented and they can, right, everybody, right, on the planet can get to the side. is that real evidence or is this just a witch hunt? so i think that with this changing narrative, the changing circumstance, and the former president being on trial, if ever there was a time to get cameras in that courtroom, this would be the ideal time to do it. >> agree. i don't think i have a role here. i do agree. joey jackson, we appreciate you, my friend. four days until the government runs out of money, house speaker mike johnson's plan to prevent a government shutdown, facing pushback from some conservatives. >> karma is an international headline. swifties have the world buzzing. harry inton will have more, stay with us. i could use a little help. yeah, there's a lot of risk out there. huh ♪♪ hey, is this thing hard to learn? nah, it's easy. huh. you know, i think i'm going to ride it home. good thing you chose u.s. bank to manage and grow your money. with our 24/7 support at least you're not taking chances with your finances. yeah, i think i'm gonna need a chair. oh, ohhhh. ♪ that's right, it's poppy's favorite part of the show, taylor swift with a shout-out last night, the entire world is talking about, the kansas city chiefs tight end travis kelce changing the lyrics of her hit song karma, he was attending her concert in argentina, excited to hear the lyric change as apparently was everyone else in the stadium, after wrapping up, another viral moment, a kiss that essentially broke tiktok, i'm told, i don't have tiktok, cnn's senior data reporter harry enten, you had a good answer, you do, was there a tangible effect to the lyric change? >> i believe there was a tangible effect, phil was skeptical. harry comes with the numbers, whether it's politics or related to taylor swift. >> brings the noise. >> that's right, and the fun. the itunes song chart, taylor swift's karma, on saturday on itunes, pre-kelce reference, 199. on sunday, 15. it jumped over 180 places on the itunes chart merely because taylor swift decided to reference her kansas city chief lover, and we see this right here, a big change, i'm going to be interested to see, if it goes even higher in the days ahead, i'll also note, you know, we've been talking about swift's effect on the kansas city chiefs and their viewership. >> yes. >> but here's, perhaps, a swift effect, though taylor swift was not at this game, the highest rated nfl game played overseas was last week, chiefs versus dolphins game at 9.6 million. remember, these are the games that are shown in the morning, the very early morning on the west coast, traditionally speaking they don't have a large viewership but this is now number one after like 20 years of these broadcasts. so i think it's related to taylor swift. >> this is my favorite story of -- i was thinking about it all weekend, preparing for it, he's actually the one who went through all the slides. what about the grammy record? >> yeah, so another -- as i said, another big weekend for the swifties, right, taylor swift holds the grammy nomination records for year's best song, she's at seven, i'll note, she's never actually won it, i don't believe, so this could be the big year for her, wouldn't it be a big year for the taylor swift and the swifties if she does, in fact, win it? year's best album for female artist, tied with babs at six, when you're tying barbara strie s -- barbra streisand, you're doing gosh doarn good. beating justin bieber at 99 million. much more of a swifty than a bieber guy. >> didn't he have to cancel half his tour? >> taylor swift not having a recession. >> are you good? can i leave you -- >> 20 more seconds to hang on with this. i appreciate the karma details, mostly because it's like a marketing play. >> you know what, whatever it takes. >> harry enten, thank you. cnn news central starts right now. ♪

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