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state. but the searing personal story that may have helped sweep this democratic governor to victory. and she's here tonight. plus the fbi seizing a phone and an ipad of the mayor of new york city, marking a significant escalation of a corruption investigation. eric adams saying tonight that he has, quote, nothing to hide. and after resigning from office nearly 20 years ago over a sex scandal with a male staffer, the former new jersey governor, jim mcagree vi, wants back into politics. he's here to make his case for a second chance. i'm kaitlan collins, and this is "the source." tonight, democrats are seizing on a galvanizing force in politics, one that led them to a string of victories on election night. even in the unlikeliest of circumstances, in pretty red states, ruby red states, actually. by making abortion access the center of their campaigns and their campaign ads, democrats are now moving to get more abortion rights measures on ballots next year in 2024. they've already notched now seven consecutive wins since the supreme court overturned roe versus wade. candidates who put it at the center of their campaigns aren't just winning in blue or purple states, but also those that are deeply red. abortion could very well be the defining issue again in 2024. we already see president biden campaigning on it. and you can see how democrats are prioritizing it by how they're spending on it. since the beginning of just this year, democrats have spent more than $74 million on ads about abortion. compare that to the $16 million that republicans have spent. the contrast is even starker when you look at a state like kentucky, where you saw and heard from the democratic governor, andy beshear. he won re-election there. and that is where democrats spent $1.3 million on ads this fall. republicans, when it came to abortion, spent nothing. kentucky has a near total ban on abortion. and it was this searing ad that many people believed helped governor beshear beat his republican opponent, and it featured 21-year-old hadley duvall. >> i was raped by my stepfather after years of sexual abuse. i was 12. anyone who believes there should be no exceptions for rape and incest could never understand what it's like to stand in amy shoes. this is to you, daniel cameron. to tell a 12-year-old girl she must have the baby of her stepfather, who raped her, is unthinkable. >> you can see why it was one of the most powerful ads of this election cycle. governor beshear is also hoping it will help resonate past election day. >> hadley is one of the most courageous young women i've ever met. in kentucky, we have the most extreme ban in america where that 13-year-old, raped and impregnated by her stepfather, would have no poptions. it's about basic empathy for somebody who has been violated. and i hope our legislature will pass those exceptions as soon as they come back. >> and hadley duvall is here with me tonight. hadley, i'm so happy that you're here. and thank you so much for just being willing to come on and tell your story. i want to talk about that powerful ad in a moment. but first, i'd like to go back to the beginning, when you first told your story publicly in a post on facebook. what was it that made you do that? >> the overturn of roe v. wade had a lot of people speaking out on social media in agreeance. and it just really got to me because it was people who knew me personally but didn't know that part of my story. so, i just wanted them to know that i see their posts, other people see their posts, and it's not always black and white. >> kind of the message you wanted to spend where people, even if they were pro life, they thought that was something to celebrate, you thought maybe they weren't thinking of circumstances like the one that you were in when you were just 12 years old. >> exactly. >> what was the reaction to that post like? >> it went pretty viral. a lot of people were sharing it. people were telling me that they'd never looked at it that way, that they had no idea that that kind of stuff could happen right there in their town. and it really -- it got a lot of conversations started. >> were you nervous when you first typed that message out to actually post it and share it with everyone you knew? >> yeah. i was really nervous. i knew i was putting myself out there to be judged and to be vulnerable. but i just feel like it was something that i had to do. >> so, after you heard from the governor's office, asking if you would be interested in telling that story in an ad for his campaign, how long did it take you before you said yes? >> i said yes the day that i got the phone call. they told me that they wanted me to be a part of an ad and what i was going to be talking about. and i said, absolutely i will. >> what kind of impact do you think it had on this race? >> i think it opened a lot of people's eyes. i think putting my face out there with the words, not just making it something that you just hear about, like, i'm a real person. people started looking me up. people have been messaging me, talking about me to their therapists and everything. and i feel like that has really made a difference. >> what do you mean, to their therapists? have you heard from people who just -- they were telling you how much your story resonated with them? >> yeah. i had some therapists reach out to me and just say that my name's being brought up in different sessions with different people around not even just kentucky but in indiana and ohio and all of the surrounding states. >> and of course, you know, some of those were -- ohio is a state where voters voted to make sure they had the right to an abortion this week. i imagine you probably also heard from people who had similar experiences to yours. >> yes. i've heard a lot of people come to me and say, you know, thank you for saying the words that i could probably never say. and i've had other people tell me that i'm the reason that they've been able to find their voice and find their strength. and that itself means so much to me. >> hadley, that's amazing. to hear from other people who went through something as dark as that and to know that you were an inspiration for them and you, kind of, gave them the freedom to also tell their story. >> yeah. >> is it hard for you to talk about? >> it's not easy, but talking about the healing is very healing for me. and knowing that there is a little girl out there somewhere that looks up to me and, you know, i'm probably helping her push through, just knowing that just because something happens to you, it doesn't mean that we stop there. we've just got to keep going. and that means so much to me knowing that there are little girls out there that look up to me and it makes it worth it. >> it's one thing to share it in a written post and it's a whole other thing to do it on camera in the powerful way that you did. you know, when you look back at that ad and see the impact, did you ever think it would have that much of an impact on the race? >> no. i knew it was going to be a big deal, but i didn't think that it was going to get as big as it did. >> yeah, it's just national attention. and i think what's important for people to remember, as they watched this race, is your home state has a near total ban on abortion. there's one exception. it's the life of the mother at risk or her health is. there's no exceptions for rape, for incest. and i know you know governor beshear has made that part of his campaign. he wants to change that. but as you know, hadley, he's dealing with a republican supermajority in the state legislature. and it's a big climb. it's an uphill climb. if you could speak to those lawmakers, though, who are in frankfurt and have this power to change this if they wanted to, what would you say to them? >> i would just ask them to look at their daughters, their granddaughters, their nieces, any woman or little girl who is significant in their life, and just think that it was me at one point and it can be somebody else the next day. and it's still happening. it's very real. and i just want them to be able to take that into consideration that abortion is not black and white. there are many gray areas in it. and those gray areas should be taken into consideration no matter how small they say the statistic is because a lot of the times, it's not even reported correctly. so, those numbers aren't accurate. >> don't you think that's because so many of these girls and women that this happens to -- you were 12 years old. you were a child. and that's -- a lot of people are scared. even adults are scared to come forward to report their rapes and their sexual assaults. >> yeah. it's very scary. >> what do you hear from your friends? you're now 21 years old. what do you hear from your friends about this and how they're thinking about, you know, using your stories and how powerful they are now that roe versus wade haez s been overtur and this is an issue that so many women in the u.s. are dealing with now? >> i'm getting a lot of support from my inner circle, of course. they knew about the abuse a long time ago. whenever it all first came out, they were right by my side through everything. and i've done -- throughout the ad, growing as big as it did, i have gained so many more people and so much more support. and we're all in this together. >> we heard from governor beshear this week after he won. and he talked about, it's people like you, not him. he said, it's people like you, and he cited your name, who will lead to that change. he said he doesn't think that you are done either, that you'll continue to speak out for people who feel like they don't have a voice. do you plan to do that in 2024 and just even beyond that? >> yeah. so, that's always been a really big goal of mine is to be able to speak out allow a helping hand to girls i relate so much to. when i was that little girl, you know, i was just looking for somebody to help me, like, somebody to help me find my strength, my voice. and knowing that i'm moving into that direction, i'm definitely not going to slow down now. >> if any of those little girls were watching your interview right now, what would you say to them? >> i just want them to know that they're not alone and they never would be alone and to keep digging for your voice, find your strength. and there's power in women sticking together. so, we just need to stick together. >> hadley, i'm just blown away by your composure and your grace and your ability to come out and speak about this. i know a lot of other people are as well. i just want to thank you, again, for being willing to come on here and talk about it with us. >> well, thank you. >> hadley duvall, thank you so much. up next, here in new york, the mayor of new york has just had his phone seized by the fbi. it is a dramatic escalation of an ongoing criminal investigation tied to his campaign. also we are tracking new major military action in gaza. what israeli forces are targeting tonight, as there could be a break through potentially in the hostage negotiations. that's next. stunning new details tonight into the fbi's seizure of new york city mayor eric adams' electronic devices, all part of a federal probe into whether his 2021 campaign received illegal donations from the turkish government. sources telling cnn that fbi agents approached the mayor on the street monday night this week, telling his security detail to step aside. the agents then climbed into the mayor's waiting suv, where they showed him they had a warrant for his phones, his devices. he handed over two iphones and an ipad, possibly more upon returning home. they were reportedly, according to "the new york times," later returned to him. this seizure marks a dramatic escalation into a federal probe into adams' campaign, just days after the fbi raided the home of his chief fund-raiser. i should be clear, adams has not been accused of any wrong doing tonight, and he denies he'll be responsible for any. he has come under increasing scrutiny, as prosecutors are zeroing in on his inner circle. this is what he told reporters on wednesday. >> the federal government came up with the charges against you, the local prosecutors, charges against you, would you also be surprised? >> i've got to be surprised. i'm the one following the law. >> tonight, the mayor is telling cnn in a statement, quote, as a former member on the floor law enforcement, i expect all members of my staff to follow the law and fully cooperate with any sort of investigation. and i will continue to do exactly that. i have nothing to hide. joining me now is the former manhattan district attorney. cy vance, thank you for being here. you're the perfect person to talk about this with. what kind of evidence did they need to get a warrant to get the mayor of new york's phones and his ipad? >> good evening, kaitlan. in order to get a search warrant, whether it was for the materials taken from the home of his campaign finance fund-raiser or the mayor's cell phones and ipad, the government had to demonstrate in a written document, called an affidavit, that there was probable cause to believe that a crime was committed and that evidence of that crime would be either in the house or wherever the warrant was executed or in the mayor's electronic phone and ipad. now, that doesn't mean that the mayor has done anything wrong. but that's the standard that the court will consider before it grants a search warrant and authorizes, in this case, the federal government to enter the premises of the fund-raiser or to seize, copy, and take information from the mayor's personal electronic devices. >> and i'm glad you made that point. just because they were able to obtain a search warrant doesn't mean that he's done anything. there's a lot we still don't know. what are they looking for, do you think, on these devices? >> well, as i understand from reading the news, which is obviously -- it would appear, according to the news, that they are looking for information related to fundraising in the mayor's 2021 campaign. i think you read as i read that there are allegations that non-americans who were not eligible to donate, straw party donors, that is individuals who were citizens of the united states to make contributions to the campaign and presumably reimburse those american citizens for making those contributions. the federal laws are different than the state laws, but federal laws will probably be focused on mail fraud, wire fraud, violations of campaign laws, and the like. >> and i think something that's important here is this is not the first time that mayor adams or people in his orbit have been under the scrutiny of law enforcement. he was actually on the show a few months ago, and we talked about an investigation being done by your former office, the manhattan district attorney's office. they had just indicted six people, including the former new york police department officer in this straw donor scheme to his 2021 campaign. i want you to listen to what heal told me about those allegations at the time. >> were you aware of any of that? what's your response to the charges? >> not aware at all. i follow the rules. and the district attorney is conducting his investigation. he did so, and it is clear that our campaign had no participation in that. and it's just in an unfortunate situation. but i have a lot of faith in the d.a.'s office, d.a. bragg's. >> given what we know -- and, i should note, it's not everything -- do you think that ma mayor adams should be concerned tonight? >> well, i think mayor adams is probably concerned for understandable reasons. first and foremost, as the mayor of the city of new york, this is a distraction from him and from the citizenry. i'd take him at his word, as i think we must. he's a former law enforcement officer. he has indicated that his direction to make sure that the systems that monitored campaign contributions, whichever campaign has or should have, were operating. but it is, of course, a dramatic fact that the federal government has gone to court to get a search warrant to allege the level of proof that i described to you that there's evidence of a crime and that a crime has been committed, and the devices the mayor possessed may have evidence of that on them as well. it's something that is a sobering offense. he has excellent counsel, boyd johnson. i think boyd has immediately gone out to make sure that the public knows that the mayor's cooperating. but there's so much that we don't know, much of which would be speculating if we tried to fill in the lines at this point. >> we will not speculate. cyrus vance, as always, thank you very much. >> thank you, kaitlan. good night. ahead, there's a new bombardment in gaza tonight, as israeli forces say that they are operating in what they call, quote, any arena that threatens the state of israel. this comes as the biden administration has now given one of its most direct condemnations yet of that growing civilian death toll. the latest, ahead. c'mon, we're right there. c'mon baby. it's the only we need. go, go, go, go! ah! touchdown baby! -touchdown! are your neighbors watching the same game? yeah, my 5g home internet delays the game a bit. but you get used to it. try these. they're noise cancelling earmuffs. i stole them from an airport. it's always something with you, man. great! solid! -greek salad? exactly! don't delay the game with verizon or t-mobile 5g home internet. catch it on the xfinity 10g network. israel is intensifying its military operation in northern gaza, with heavy bombardment and flares tonight. we saw a notable shift in language from the secretary of state, antony blinken, today on the evolving situation. one of his most direct condemnations yet of the growing civilian death toll that we're seeing in gaza. >> much more needs to be done to protect civilians and to make sure that humanitarian assistance reaches them. far too many palestinians have been killed. far too many have suffered these past weeks. >> those comments are coming, as cnn is learning that the administration has gotten stark warnings from american diplomats stationed across the middle east that the u.s. could be losing support with arab countries for a generation because of it's strong backing of israel. we've learned now that israel believes around 1,200 people were killed during those brutal october 7th attacks. that's a change from what we previously thought was 1,400. israel not explaining the revised number in full, there are questions about that. joining us is dan senor, a foreign policy adviser under president george w. bush. he's also the co-author of the new and timely book, "the genius of israel: the surprising resilience of a divided nation in a turbulent war." dan, i'm so glad to have you back tonight. i want to talk about the book a lot. but those comments from secretary blinken, do you think that shift from language in the u.s. leads to a shift in policy in israel? >> probably not. i think what secretary blinken is dealing with is bouncing around from arab capital to arab capital, and he's hearing two things. on the one hand, they say the fighting needs to end soon. these images all over the media of palestinians getting killed is a problem. but not before israel finishes off hamas. make sure israel finishes off hamas. to many of these countries, particularly the sunni gulf, they want hamas wiped out. hamas is a huge headache for many of these arab countries. they want hamas wiped out. the images are a problem, so they want israel to -- they want the united states to put some pressure on israel. i don't think it will have enormous effect. israel has agreed to these pauses. the tension for israel is if the more it's rushed, finish it up, finish it up, finish it up, that's typically when they have to operate more indiscriminately. if they're given time and space, they can be more focused. >> for those countries that want israel to complete its mission and do so sooner rather than later, israel's objective is not to just diminish hamas, but to eliminate hamas. is that even doable? >> you're right. israel is not interested in returning to the status quo. it is removing hamas' military capabilities. we think of hamas as a rag tag militia. what we saw october 7th, ait's real military operation, real training, real logistics, real weapons supported and organized by iran. they can get rid of that infrastructure and they can kill or arrest all the senior commanders and everyone who was involved in october 7th. i mean, based on the a.i. technology they have, they've identified most of the hamas operatives and commanders that were involved in october 7th. so, they can kill or capture all of those people or most of them and wipe out their infrastructure. and you don't have a hamas threat in gaza. >> so, you have written this book, "the genius of israel." obviously you wrote it before what happened on october 7th. it's all the more timely now. and i wonder how, you know, when you're looking at the book and it talks about the israeli society, the israeli military and how that's such a center piece in that, how do you think of the book differently and the role of the military in that sense before what happened on october 7th and now? >> yeah. it's -- so, we -- the military -- the role the military plays in israel, i think it serves three very important purposes. because it's compulsory, service. not all but most israelis serve. and it means that young israelis h at a formative period of their lives, 18, 19, 20, 21, unless they go on to serve in the officer corp., they develop tremendous skills. that's why so many of these young people coming out of these sophisticated units wind up running israeli startups because they develop these leadership and management skills. they also accomplish two other things. one is they have a communal group mindset. the whole sul chur in israel is about we, not me. when you're applying to college in the united states, it's all about your own individual excellence, right? your grades, your test scores, your s.a.t.s, you, you, you, you. it's all about how you perform. if you want to get into the best units in the idf, your individual excellence matters, your own performance, but also how you work in a team, in a group, in a unit. the best people won't get into the best units if they can't work in hay team. the incentives are all about communal, it's all about how do i work as a team. and it shapes the whole culture. and the third piece here, as divisive as israel gets -- on october 7th israel was pretty divided, before this war. when we were talking about israel earlier in 2023, it was deeply divided over judicial reform and other political issues. as divided as it gets, israelis tend to not look at each other as the other. in the hull of a tank -- you see these images right now. i've seen these images on a friday night where these soldiers are celebrating the sabbath together in a tank. you look around the tank, there's a secular israeli with pony tail and tattoos a very religious israeli and a israeli with roots from yemen or iraq and another israeli with roots from eastern europe and the united states. you have the son of a cab driver, son of a billionaire. and they're all forced to be together. we don't have systems in this country that force us to all be together from all walks of life. and because reserve duty goes well into israelis into their 40s, they maintain these relationships throughout their adult life. so, i just think as -- we felt, before october 7th, israel looks really divided right now. you ain't seen nothing. this country's capacity to come together because of these societal shock absorbers it has built into the society and for the country to stay together and not have these cold civil wars is unique in the world. we wrote the book because we want the u.s. and other countries that are so divided to look at israel and see what lessons there are. now we're seeing it in israel and israeli society post-october 7th. >> and also thinking of the reservists who lived in other countries. it's a great compelling read. i encourage everyone to read it. thank you. >> appreciate it. coming up, 20 years ago, the governor of new jersey stood next to his wife. he announced that he was gay and that he had had an affair with a man. today, jim mcgreevey is using that moment to announce what he hopes will be his political comeback. . my truth is that i am a guy american. i engaged in adult consensual affair. it was wrong, it was foolish, it was inexcusable. >> and jim mcgreevey joins me next. a political comeback may be in the works for former new jersey governor jim mcgreevey. in 2004 he became the first out gay governor in u.s. history. moments later, he resigned. >> so, my truth is that i am a gay american. shamefully, i engaged in adult consensual affair with another man. i have decided the right course of action is to resign. >> as mcgreevey announced that resignation, he admitted to having an affair with a man, who was also an employee of his, while standing next to his then-wife. nearly two decades after that, mcgreevey is seeking office again. >> i'm imperfect, and i'll always be imperfect. it's important to take accountability, to do the next right thing. it was painful. but i would not have traded anything that i have experienced. it's made me a better person, more compassionate. >> and jim mcgreevey joins me now. i'm so glad that you're here. tell me why you want a second chance from voters to years later. >> kaitlan, part of it is i've been blessed to have the experience both inside government, in terms of mayor and the executive branch, and also outside of government. for the past decade i've had the pleasure working with people coming back from prison and jail and addiction treatment and veterans. as i shared, one out of every three veterans is court involved, and helping them put back their lives. and candidly, understanding the challenges of doing that. so, part of what i understand, if it's that tough for me, how about for the individuals that don't have someone in their corner advocating? and jersey city is where my grandparents came from ireland and my grandfather was a beat cop and my parents grew up. it's a great city, but it's a city at the cross roads. and it's a city that's becoming increasingly not affordable. so, what i would like to see is, whether it's controlling property taxes, whether it's affordable housing, grappling with the issues of traffic congestion, improve the quality of schools, those are issues that are all important for working families. >> you've been doing a lot of work over the last few decades with people who were incarcerated who just don't have the resources and whatnot. how have those last 20 years shaped how you would be different if you were re-elected? >> kaitlan, it's -- you know, i never thought i would say this, but it was a blessing to have travelled the road i travelled because i'm a very different -- you know, i was the young man in a hurry, the quintessential young paul. and now i just, sort of -- i still take a case load. we're blessed to have 20,000 folks enrolled in the new jersey re-entry corporation. but i still take a hands-on case lood. i know what it's like for someone grappling with mental health or addiction or homelessness. tonight before i came here, a young man told me that he and his wife and his young infant child is about to be evicted. he's like, jim, what can i do? i'm like, all right, i'll call you tomorrow. i know i can get your wife and your daughter into a place in catholic charities. it's like, take care of them. it's so much more real and tangible. it's not as if it's about moving bureaucracies. it's being very -- it's very real and very authentic. >> yeah. and when you resigned, you cited the fact that you were a gay man. that was obviously not the only thing that was at play there. it was the person that you had an affair with who, i should note, disputes that, that he was your top homeland security adviser. he didn't have the qualifications, couldn't get a security clearance. voters have long memories in new jersey. >> it's true. >> they're looking at that. can they trust you now? >> i think for ten years as mayor, i think i worked very hard, very hard. i was a good mayor, controlled property taxes, made sure they were affordable and good schools. and i was grappling with my sexuality. i thought i was doing the right thing. you meet this person, and so it's just -- yeah, no. i think as governor we did a lot of good things. we did easy pass, motor vehicle reform, the highland drinking water, third grade childhood literacy. so, i think we did good things. but obviously what i did was terribly wrong, and i owned it. i owned it. and people said, well, you shouldn't have resigned. no, yes, i should resign. it was the first time, you know -- i'd spent my whole life working for this, and i said, this is the right decision, and i'm going to do it for the right reasons. >> i'm fascinated by watching that video, just thinking, that's never something that would happen in that context of you being gay now in -- >> oh, today. >> how do you think about how the u.s. electorate thinks of it? the supreme court decision, congress passed the law protecting same-sex rights last year. >> one, i just want to make sure that people know that i understand that what i did wrong, i broke the vows of matrimony. on a personal level, my daughter's mother showed up for the announcement the other day, which i was touched on another level. but it's miraculous, kaitlan, that i think america -- i think of young jim mcgreevey hiding the fact, thinking what i was doing to hide my sexuality was the right thing. and now today it's, like, i'm, sort of, put off by young people. it's like no big deal. recently my friend christian runs executive director of garden state equality, had a dinner dance. and i went there. it was unfathomable to me. >> jim mcgreevey, it's a fascinating return to politics. >> thank you. >> grateful that you came on to talk about it. >> thanks so much for your time. >> thank you. up next, a deep dive on election lies here in the u.s., with a very familiar face that you know well. that's just in a moment. election offices in six states are now crime scenes tonight, as the fbi is investigating after more than a dozen suspicious letters were sent to public officials. at least one of them contained traces of fentanyl. threats against the men and women who do the work of counting votes are not new, but instead have actually been on the rise for the last three years, stoked, in part, by former president donald trump. in his new book, "network of lies," brian stelter examines the role that fox news played in amplifying falsehoods about u.s. elections. he writes that the role is what led one of rupert murdoch's children, james, and his wife, katherine, to see the network as, quote, a growing threat to pluralistic democracy. brian stelter is here with me now for his first interview back at cnn. welcome back, brian. >> it's good to be here. has anything happened since i've been gone? >> no. >> one great thing happened. this show. >> yours is one of the first ones i was on at cnn. i loved working with you. this book is really important. and tying bakt to what we've seen happening today, i spoke to one of these election workers who got one of these letters today. and i think what's important about it is how much of this, these threats against election workers were stoked and exacerbated by the former president when he lost the 2020 election. >> right because this didn't come out of nowhere. the big die didn't come out of nowhere. it was made to happen. when i realized when i was reconstructing the 2020 period for this book is that it happened very, very specifically the weekend that president biden was named president-elect. remember that saturday morning when the projections were made? well, 24 hours later on sunday morning, it was fox's maria bartiromo and sidney powell who seeded the story about dominion, that basically said to trump's audience, there's a villain of this story. it's a company called dominion. they somehow tricked you. they stole the election started to come through on a sunday. by the following thursday, trump started repeating it as well. it wasn't trump. it was fox that started it. >> look how we're still talking about this almost at the next election. you've been interviewing the dominion lawyers. i assume they're still pretty business. >> they're going to be litigating cases well through 2024. that's one of the crazy things about this. the accountability for these election lies is playing out mostly in the courts. you cover it every day, the january 6th cases, the trump trials and these civil actions against fox and newsmax. >> you talk about trump stoking this, but he had a platform to stoke it as well on fox to use these election lies. you say civility was plummeting, americans more and more defining themselves by who or what they opposed, denigrated. >> that's a piece of what you're covering today about these suspicious letters. there is a generalized sense of partisanship that leads to these acts of violence and incitement. that has to be denounced regardless of partisanship. we still see almost every day trump engaging in these delusions about the last election as he seeks the election once again. it is an incredibly challenging environment for the news media to cover. >> what fascinated me is how you tied it to what is happening right now and what we're seeing potentially next march and may, trump in court, all these trials he's facing. you said all these trials he's facing related in one way or another to misguided advice, misinformation and the mendacity of the right wing media machine. >> i had to write this book because all the revelations ghin i don dominion came up with reading tucker carlson's files and texts. it was choices people made. rupert murdoch chose to sit back and act like a bystander instead of leading and managing his company. that meant the likes of shawn ha sean hannity were in charge. it has hurt the republican party at the ballot box in elections. that's a warning not just for republicans or maga believers. it's a warning for democrats, for everybody not to get too caught up in an echo chamber. >> did you ever think you would write a book about fox again? >> i did not. i only did it now because these sources are now on the record. i always did it with anonymous sources. now you have rupert murdoch's e-mails. you actually hear from him in his own words. he was saying this was terrible stuff, damaging everybody, but he wasn't actually taking action to stop it. he gets deposed earlier this year by dominion's lawyers. he acts more like a passenger in the car than a driver. it's a story about a lack of leadership. james murdoch, one of rupert murdoch's sons, is on the outside holding fundraisers for biden, plotting a takeover in the future. i think the right wing media machine could evolve in many different ways in the years to come. >> rupert murdoch is stepping down next week. how different does his media empire start to look after that? >> i think he looks diminished. he's not the swashbuckling media titan that he was. tucker carlson still on the outside plotting their own independent media outlets. it's almost as if the energy has moved away from him. fox is still the beating heart of the gop. that's where the narratives are still set. >> what you see trump now, i mean, he went from being someone who -- i believe you had a quote that he thought rupert murdoch and fox were 90% good. >> yeah. i need you to be 100% good. >> he doesn't see it like at anymore. >> in a primary he would argue that. come general election, they'll be in trump's corners. >> the book is "arc of lies" brian stelter, thank you. up next, how george clooney is helping veterans on this veterans day. ththat's afterer a quick b brea. c'mon, we're right there. c'mon baby. it's the only we need. go, go, go, go! ah! touchdown baby! -touchdown! are your neighbors watching the same game? 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