congressman gaetz saying quote, thoughts and prayers as he works through his grief. congress -- said we have moved on to a much better speaker, who is honest and trustworthy. of course, that new speaker is speaker mike johnson, dealing with a lot of the issues that kevin mccarthy faced as house speaker. we will see that on display in the coming days. meanwhile, thank you so much for joining us, cnn news now with abby phillip starts, right now. >> democrats and republicans giving us an instruction manual on how to make hard things harder. that is tonight on news night. good evening, i'm abby philip in new york. and right now we are watching both major american political parties ignore history, and its lessons, and really not learning from their mistakes is always a good mess recipe to repeat them. but which party will ultimately bear the brunt of its -- is the big question. for democrats, joe manchin is the man in the middle. >> what i will be doing is traveling the country, and speaking out to see if there is an's interest in creating a movement to mobilize the middle, and bring americans together. >> the long-standing west virginians senator announced today that he will not run again for reelection. but what he will do is actually now what worries democrats. manchin had flirted with this third party run idea earlier this year, under the no labels banner, and that he might follow through on this. this time, it triggers a fear that he will attract voters that otherwise will cast ballots for joe biden. now mansions announcement, strangely enough, happen on the very same day that a familiar face from 2016 stepped back into public view. >> i am jill stein, and i am running for president, to offer that choice for the people, outside of the failed two party system. the ruling parties that got us into this mess aren't getting us out. >> jill stein's presence has kicked off painful memories, in 2016 perilous for democrats. stein earned one point out of 4 million votes, 1. 4 million votes, i should say. and the forever ire of the hillary clinton campaign in the process. >> that's assuming jill stein will give it up, which she might not, because she is also a russian asset. yeah, she's a russian asset, i mean totally. >> so like in 2016, democrats again have a candidate that even other democrats are not fully sold on. and americans are really, really not sold on president biden. our new cnn poll shows that biden narrowly will lose to trump, if the election were held today. so, in a new york times poll of swing state voters as well. now, it is a moment of acute political peril for this incumbent president. all of this though should seem like good news to republicans, right? well, it would be if they could out-run their very own real problems. let's just take a journey back to tuesday, that was just a couple of days ago, when republicans lost in kentucky, and in ohio. those are two cherry red states. ohio is proof that abortion is still very much mattering to voters. and last night's debate offered further evidence that republicans are still stuck searching for how to talk about. it >> i don't judge anyone for being pro-choice, and i don't want them to judge me for being pro-life. so when we are looking at, this there are some states that are going more on the pro-life side, i welcome that. there are some states that are going more on the pro-choice side, i wish that wasn't the case, but the people decide. >> texas is not going to do it the same as new hampshire. i was not going to necessarily do the same as virginia. so you've got to work from the bottom up, you've got to do a better job on these referendums. >> we need a 15-week federal limit. >> we should not short circuit that process until every states people have the right to weigh in on it. >> did you hear a consensus there? the headlines really don't offer much reason for optimism, that republicans can sort out their messaging struggle on this anytime soon. the wall street journal writes, republicans still don't know how to talk about abortion. nbc, gop strategists urged congressional candidates to campaign against a national abortion ban. axios, democrats new abortion battle plan is to rush to get it on the ballot in 2024. now, the other problem for republicans is the same as it ever was, or at least as it ever has been since 2016, donald trump. >> if his endorsement was so important, why have republicans been losing so many of these races where he has endorsed? we have fewer governors than when he got elected president, fewer u.s. senators, fewer u. s. house members. >> he has continued electoral and political poison. i mean, the day -- is one example. put in virginia as well. you can't overcome the stench of donald trump's political narcissism. that's the bottom line. >> so, what about donald trump 's ballot impact will, we'll have more on that later. but first, the democrats. how does joe manchin affect how they can hold on to the senate? cnn's harry enten is here with me over at the magic wall. so harry, what is the impact here of joe manchin deciding not to run again, in a state that frankly, i don't know that any democrat could win. but what impact will it have on control of the senate in 2024, potentially? >> yeah abby look, democrats basically have no margin for error. here is the cenotaph heading into 2024. democrats can't lose more than one seat. look, 51 democrats in the senate, at least caucus with the democrats. you've got 49 senators who caucus with the republicans. and let's take a look at how many democrats are vulnerable this time around. look at this, there are seven democratic senate seats up in 2024, in states trump won at least once. you know, you mentioned west virginia earlier, but there's pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, wisconsin, montana, arizona. so we have a flu of these democratic states, in where trump won at least one time. compare that to the republican side. do you know how many gop seats are up in 2024 that trump lost at least once? zero. a grand total of zero. so democrats have far more affordable ground than republicans do. pre-match all of the republican seats are in safe, republican areas. and, here is the other thing to keep in mind, why that is so important. because polarization has become such a thing in our politics. the same party when the senate and presidential race in the, state in 2016 for the first time ever, it was all of them. it was 34 of 34. in 2020, it was 34 out of 35, only susan collins in maine was the exception. so the fact is going into 2020, four i would much rather be a republican running for senate than a democrat, or at least put my money on them gaining the majority, of democrats at this point losing it. if joe manchin he, doesn't make it any easier, abby. >> it is a tough map in 2024. but then again, it was a tough map in 2022, and democrats did narrowly expand their majorities. so we will see how that goes. harry, stick around, we will be back with you shortly. but joining me now at the table is cnn political commentator ana navarro. and also with, us molly jong-fast, the host of fast politics, the podcast. she is also a special correspondent for vanity fair. so anna, how are democrats feeling, do you think right now, that manchin has sort of made this splash? he is not running, but maybe he is running for something else. >> you know, i suspect there is more than one emotion going on, right. joe manchin has been this problem child. but, as much of a problem child as he has been, he has been part of the family. and he has helped them keep the majority. so, you kind of love and deal with, him and put up with him, because he helps you -- . so i think right, now they are grappling with the realization that he has just made losing that senate seat a stark reality. that didn't look like it, had he run. and now, he comes out and says not only is he putting that senate seat at risk, and probably losing it, he is now saying oh you know, what i am using about the idea of being in the independent, and running there, as an independent. i'm going to go on a listening tour. it's a lot for one day, for democrats to take. and just, 48 hours after they were celebrating. >> this is always what happens, two days after a midterm, or an off year election. somebody drops a bomb into the political sphere. but in this case, what is the joe manchin lane? i mean he might be one of the most dislike democrats among democrats? so, who's voting for -- >> i think joe manchin must know that he is not a popular guy with democrats. but i think it's this sort of middle, the sane middle, right but i just don't, i don't see how this works, right. this sane middle is going to decide that they are going to vote for a guy who can't possibly win, in order to make trump president, right. i mean that is what this looks like. so i think that is a lot of the anxiety. again, i think a lot of people didn't think joe manchin would run again, because the numbers looked that. jim -- is wildly popular. >> this is an almost political possibility now in that state. >> but i think people would like him not to now go around trashing president biden. or you, no shopping some kind of a unity ticket, which is a total nonstarter, and will never ever ever work. >> it's funny, you ask about the joe manchin lane. i can only think of the no labels lane, right. just a bunch of very wealthy elitist former this or former that. the former governor of, utah the former senator. >> no labels is a real thing. coming to your, point they have a lot of resources. because. >> frankly abby, i. i happen to love labels. when [laughter] they don't appeal to me whatsoever, they do appeal to somebody like my husband. but i just think this idea is is destructive. and i want to know, if they want to live with the responsibility of having helped donald trump, who is a threat to democracy, and a threat to american values, go back to being president. if they can live with that, and i would say one other thing is, no labels is largely funded by republicans, right. because >> that's true. nobody is naive here, we see what the play is. so i mean look, the people who started it roar, had a sort of break with the clintons, and then kind of took this, and started this thing. but it is republican money, and i think there was a republican goal here. >> and a lot of older and middle aged men, with a need and thirst for relevancy. >> so we were just talking about jill stein. i just want to play a little bit more about her announcement today. >> democrats have betrayed their promises for working people, youth, and the climate, again and again. while republicans don't even make such promises in the first place. and both parties are a danger to our democracy. so forget the pundits, and the attack dogs who tell you to ignore your misery, and just keep voting for those who caused it in the first place. change won't come from the ruling elites, it comes from we the people. >> this lady is like jason, friday the 13th. [laughter] just when you think she has gone, away she pops up again. i mean as if she hasn't done enough harm in the past. >> this is a multi front problem, for biden. i mean, it is not just the joe manchin, it is not just -- there is robert kennedy junior. i mean there are a lot of people. and dean phillips i mean. and, you better mention marianne williamson, because people get me very angry -- >> dean phillips is steve schmidt, and lots of republican strategists way of trying to get money. he is pulling at 2%. and he is really, he is -- -- anyone he is, in a tight margin. that's 10,000 votes. >> and remember, we have an electoral college. it is not about the popular vote, like biden probably will win the popular vote. but it is about these little pockets of votes in six states. yeah i mean, look there is clearly an effort here. i mean i don't think it is coordinated, i think there is just a lot of anxiety, and uncertainty. and people running for president. and look at the other thing, is there is a perverse incentive structure for people running for president. if you look at the gop debate stage, you can see. that is that going to be president? no. does he want a podcast? yes >> anna, you mentioned that people should be concerned about these candidates potentially, basically unwittingly electing trump. but it seems like that argument is not good enough, that they should fear trump, and therefore vote for joe biden. otherwise, we would see biden performing better in some of these polls. >> well you know, these polls i think needs to be taken with a grain of salt. because we look at these polls, and he is supposed to be such a drag on the ticket, and he is supposed to be in so much trouble. and then, democrats have this great night. so yes, i think of voters right now are grumpy. and wouldn't you be grumpy, if you have been looking on tv at people in the middle east killing each other for a month? if you just feel the malays that is going on around? of course, voters are grumpy. but if the rubber hits the road, and they have to choose between voting for joe biden and the democrats, or cuckoo bird republicans who are constantly fabricating and manufacturing culture wars. so are you going to vote for the actual outrage that is taking a weight choice from women? or are you going to vote for the manufactured outrage, against mickey mouse and drag queens? >> and we will see, we have to leave it there, but we will see how that ends. i agree with you, polls are polls, votes are votes, which is a totally different thing. and and, molly thank you both very much. and one candidate says that republicans are the party of losers. we will take you behind the numbers in the trump era. plus, alarming news tonight. election offices in several states receiving threatening letters in the mail. and, what happened outside of a screening about october 7th, organized by israeli actors gauto. we will speak with someone who is, there when chaos erupted. this week, republicans have arrived at a crossroads, after losing at the ballot box, again. it was rare that the object of consensus, on the miami debate stage was this. >> we have become a party of losers, at the end of the day. >> republicans, were gonna get tired of winning. what we saw last, night i am sick of republicans losing. >> but, the gop continues to litigate the why of it. why are they losing? some point to issues like abortion, and others see a clear and obvious answer, and his name is donald trump. president biden tonight, rubbing salt in that open wound for republicans, saying at a fund-raiser, we haven't stop winning, and he hasn't stopped losing. the truth, is this guy can't get tired of losing. but like the climate deniers among, us there are plenty of republicans who see the evidence and say something else is afoot. and donald trump is not the one to blame. take trump acolyte vivek ramaswamy. >> trump was the leader of the party through those elections. doesn't he share some responsibility for the losses? >> i mean not in 2020, two or 2023, stewart. we have gotten into the bad habit of somehow pinning the tail on one man. that is donald trump. >> cnn's harry enten is still with us, over at the magic wall. so harry, trump is the republican party's north star. but how is that working for republicans at the ballot box? what do the numbers say. >> it ain't good, it ain't good. i mean look, changing gop -- from before 20 -- house seats down 25, senate seats down five, governors down four, across the board down. and, you spoke about, for vivek spoke about that 2022 midterm. look, the 2022 midterm was the first time since 1934 that the opposition party did all of these combined, and had a net loss in governorships, had a net loss in senate seats, had a net gain of fewer than ten house seats. this was a tremendous midterm for the democratic party. and, one of the big reasons why is, take a look at these trump endorsed senate candidates, they lost some key senate races in 2022. blake masters, herschel walker, adam -- . dr. oz. and that's a big reason why democrats were able to hold on to the senate, despite the fact that you mentioned earlier, a lot of people saying that that math was pretty bad for democrats going. in but they were able to hold on. and i, think here is the biggest one for you. this is the margin over, biden for 2024. and polls from those six swing -- states. donald trump is ahead of joe biden by three points. but nikki haley leads by nine points. and a generic republican leads by 15 points. look, trump can definitely win, but he is far from the safest bet, in the past few elections should perhaps tell republicans, hey if you want to, when maybe you should cast your lot with somebody else. >> well look, republicans voters say, that's good enough for them. >> harry enten, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> i want to bring in republican congressman tim burchett from tennessee. he was one of the eight republicans who voted to oust then speaker kevin mccarthy back in october. congressman, thank you so much for being here again. >> thank you for having me them. >> so as you may, now in an interview with cnn's manu raju this week, former speaker mccarthy really unloaded on you, and seven other republicans who ousted him, or lent that charge. listen to a bit of what he had to say. >> i think the two that were really different from all of the others were tim burchett and nancy mace. you know, the others had into voted for meat before, anyway they were disrupters the old. and >> what about them surprised, you burchett and mace? >> it just seemed out of nature, but they seemed to have changed during a time, they care allot about press and a lot, about policy. and so they seem to just want the press, in the personality. >> your response, congressman? >> we we'll, that's kind of the pot calling the kettle black man. i mean honestly, i made pretty clear where i was the whole time on this. we were 32, now we are 33 trillion dollars in debt. we were up against the september 30th deadline, as you remember. and then we cook the whole month of august off, two weeks into september. and then, we rushed back to washington to do what? to name to post offices, ma'am. we got, we've got a country to run, and that was the priority. and that was the same old thing. and it was really, we do these continued resolutions in the past, and they were done for emergency reasons. it was a, literally an emergency thing -- . and it has become our transit system, really in congress. and there again, we were backed up against a mother wall, and we do these continued resolutions, because the folks in power like you pack things for their lobbyist buddies and the special interests, and that is exactly what we did. and then we didn't have any access to do anything. we weren't voting for individual spending bills, and nothing was changed. and then. >> can i ask you about that congressman? let me ask you about. that >> yes ma'am. >> let me ask about the continuing resolutions, because this is salient, we are a little over a week away from another potential government shutdown. i want to play, you and i spoke back in september. this is what you told me then. >> well, never say never man. but, the way you get somebody off of heroin is not giving them more heroin. and the way you get the people of the country off of the so-called continuing resolution is, quick passing these continued revenue resolutions. >> so the current speaker, mike johnson, it sounds like he is just about to pursue a strategy that relies on continuing resolutions, to keep the government funded, to buy time. which is pretty much the same thing that kevin mccarthy was doing, that you decried at that time. why is he allowed to do, that but mccarthy wasn't? >> well, kevin mccarthy started in january, if you remember ma'am. and then we went to almost the week of september 30th to do something. and, he in fact created the emergency. and what i wanted to say before was, i said on your station that i was going to pray about it. and then when kevin mccarthy called me on the phone, the two things that he really insulted me about was, he said he made fun of the fact that i was going to pray about it, and the second thing that kevin said was, i said about the schedule. and he said, well i don't set the schedule. now could you imagine nancy pelosi saying something like that, or any leader saying or, don't blame me, blame it on steve scalise or something. and just, we just continue down this road. now mike johnson is in an emergency situation. he has been thrown in the d kent, and he is clearly looking for an answer. and the only answers to pass a budget, but you can't pass a multi trillion dollar budget, in the matter of a couple of weeks. and, so he does have his back against the wall. and that is why this approach that have been put forward by some of the more conservative members, is possibly an avenue out, where we do -- it we do it overtime. and, we don't allow the government to close down, and we don't pass a multi trillion dollar budget with about a buddies -- and which is exactly what the lobbyist, folks like mike johnson's predecessor wanted to do. so, there is a complete difference there. it is an emergency situation, and he does have his back against the wall. >> but, this laddered approach. i mean, your colleagues in the senate say they don't understand what that means, or how it would even work. and, it actually seems to rely on the house, basically contininuously pasassing shortrm bills, t to fund dififferent pas ofof the goverernment, in n ordo buy momore time. that s seems awfulully risky, ,n that youour party hahas really d sosome troublele. eveven this, w week gettining to consensus,s, even inteternally n certrtain parts s of your spspeg agenda.. >> y yes ma'am, , that is anan excecellent quesestion. and the e answer to o that, is t isis a staggerered approacach, bebecause not t everythingng rut at c certain timimes. there are e certain ththings tht woululd run out t at differerent titimes. and, they y would in f fact, the are e certain asas e e w operatitiso, you wowouldh woan soso, ap>> hohow is th f j just a month anand a feth th>> welel ma'a'am, bo prior to s speaker an ibeca y yea on the,, nancy y pelosi, wewe've go pasae y youit yoyo y you titimeline.it,t, in t the pa and an in >> a>> >> and n next, t sususpicisomey > the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? 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>> thank you for having me on,. abby yes, we have had five of our counties who received this letter. four of which sorry, three of the four have been confirmed receiving fentanyl. the fifth one luckily, because you put the word out, the letter was identified, and set aside and was not opened. again, this is a horrible tragedy, and just bringing terror and fear to this election, workers who are just trying to do the right things, and just process the election. >> well, as we go into this election year, are you worried that this is the climate that election workers are going to be operating in. fearing literally for their lives, as they try to do their jobs? >> abby, this is a prelude to what is going to happen in 2024. so, you have an individual, mailing fentanyl. and our election workers have got to sit there and think is this and blue i'm going to open up, or a ballot, it is going to have a powder of some kind? it's going to hurt me. on top of that of course, cnn is reporting this other news, news networks are reporting this. but the misinformation is going out, there that is generating the aggression and the hostility against our election workers, which is why i hope my state passes a bill to protect our election workers, and the federal government does the same thing. >> with so many lawmakers in washington, not even believe in the last election was legitimate. i mean do you even think that is possible? 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>> yeah, they were lost, but they were specifically killed. i mean that is the word. a bomb dropped on them. it was ironic, because my cousin -- sal's who lives there, told my uncle it is safe -- they are bombing over there, come to my house. and he went there, they were bombed, nine of them were killed then, and to survivors when i uncle and my cousin. she survived only for a few days, going through surgeries where there is no anesthesia, they cut directly into you into the hospital. my uncle survive for ten days, but he eventually succumb to his wounds. he was burned from head to toe. and you know, he was one of the best of us. he was a person that from the time he was young, was just a beautiful person. he would line up for prayer, he would always be trying to guide towards good. he was always somebody that people looked up to. and so to have that loss for me, it breaks my heart that i will never be able to see him again. >> you also have a lot of family members who are still in gaza. >> i do. >> what are you hearing from them? what are their lives like now? >> it's horrible. i mean, they see the water takes have been attacks, the bakery's have been attacked. there is no access to basic accessories. my aunt, who is dependent on life saving drugs, is running out of those medicines, as we speak. my uncle who requires oxygen tanks is running out of them. when they are surrounded, it took four days from my uncles family to be excavated. and when they finally did take them out of that rubble, they can only pull them out in small chunks. indistinguishable, they couldn't tell who was who, especially the children. they had to lump them together. >> how many children were there? >> there were four children. >> wow. >> one of them wasn't even a year old. i have a picture that i shared with you all, in that one picture they look so happy and, not one of them is alive right now. >> you have a cousin, my understanding who is or was pregnant. >> yes. >> how is she? >> i mean she is surviving. she was pregnant, she went to the hospital, they refused her at the hospital. she end up having to have a caesarean section, which as any mother will tell, you is, when my wife had, there are million doctors, she had nothing. she went to a small room, they did the surgery, they had to have her out within ten hours of that. and now, she has had to move several times within gaza, just be able to survive with these moons. >> shortly after having a baby. >> what is your reaction to this news, that there are going to be these for our windows each day to allow civilians to move around, within gaza from the israeli government? >> you know, as a palestinian, i welcome it, because that is my family. but it is not enough. more needs to be done, there needs to be a cease-fire, there needs to be an end to the blockade of humanitarian aid. these people are dying, they are running out of food. my cousins are telling me there is literally no water or food for them to eat or drink. we need to open this up, these kids have done nothing wrong. 4000 children have been killed at this point. 4000, that is more than 9/11. this is a humanitarian crisis at epic levels, we need to stop, and it is our government that is partially responsible. and we need to be able to stand up, have the bravery to stand up to anybody in the world and say you need to stop, you need to stop this, there are better ways to do this. if there was a mass shooter huddled in a school, you wouldn't blow up the whole school, right? you need to be technical about how you were going to go after this. because in the meanwhile, our family members, the innocent people are being killed, or they are being slaughtered. this is turning into a genocide, and we need to stop it now. >> sammy siobhan, i appreciate you sharing your perspective. and again, i am incredibly sorry. this is, as i said earlier, it is a profound loss. that number of, people from your single family. thank you again for joining, us and sharing that. and up next for us, israeli actress gal gadot, organizing a screening about hamas's atrocities from october 7th. but outside of that theater, there were fights breaking out in the streets. >> it's a place that's meant to be focused on pace, but instead it became the sight of violence. this was the state outside of the museum of tolerance in los angeles yesterday. inside of that museum was a screening of footage released by the idf and overnight by israeli activist gal godot, showing the horror of the hamas attack on october 7th. chaos broke out between pro palestinian and pro israeli demonstrators. my next guest attained that screening. rabbi abraham cooper is the director of global social action at the -- center and tolerance museum. and he joins me now. rabbi, thank you so much for being here. what is your reaction just to see those scenes breaking out? people punching each other, basically, outside of an event like this. >> abby, first of all, thank you for having me on. and before we get to talk about last not, i want to express my condolences directly to sammy shabbat, who described the horrific loss of life of his family. i also want to say, to him, and to the people in gaza, the blood of his innocence are on the hands of hamas. right now, we have 214 people being held, still, including 4 to 2 kids and nine month olds, a month into this. as hostages. and tragic what you say, essentially, all of gaza and gazans are used as human shields by this terrorist group. so my heart breaks. i have two daughters and eight grandchildren in israel. and this is, for i think so many of us here in the united states, very intensely personal. last night, you know, i've been working for the center -- which deals with the holocaust, et cetera, 4:46 years. a fourth we from 43 minutes, most of it was taken from sulfones that the hamas terrorists themselves took. depicted such atrocities that i wish, and some, ways we don't have to watch any of. it but in otherwise, i think there's been a fundamental problem and that everyone just assumed this is round five between israel and hamas, and -- what transpired, the massacres, the raves, the catnip in the hostage taking. it was something totally different. so the people inside our museum of tolerance, about 200 or so members of the entertainment community, some diplomats. it was along for three minutes to watch. it was extremely difficult as a parent and a grandparent to even try to absorb. as far as outside, what took place. first, i give highcrest to the lapd. thank god, in the, and no one was seriously hurt. although we've already had a situation we are an american jewish protester, the other day, was killed in los angeles. of course, you have to be extremely concerned that we have potential flash points all over the u.s. and beyond, on our campuses. today, ucla. and i think there is a lot of blame to go around. the universities are not doing their job. and just, you should know, today was kristallnacht. the 85th anniversary went 1000 synagogues were destroyed by the not sees in one night. the united kingdom had 1300 and 50% increase in anti jewish hate crimes the week after. france has had 1000 cases. germany had 2600 hamas related hate crimes. so there is an unbelievable amount of emotion that's out there and i think what everyone has to understand is, one way to stop all of this terrible thing is, for those hostages to be released and when hamas will give up, that will be the end of the shooting. but in the meantime, they've used under schools as launching sides. they take nine month old jewish babies and entire families of palestinians. do whatever they have to do to protect their leaders, who are hiding underneath the hospitals. so i would just say that what i've looked at last nights, as a parent and grandparent, it took place on the happiest day in the jewish calendar. on the sabbath. it's really beyond the pale. and i will say, at least my personal view, i never thought i would ever sized thing. but hamas, and a, way is worse than the nazis. because the nazis worked very hard to erase evidence of their crimes against humanity. hamas's live stream them. this is a whole new ball game. and as i said, my heart goes out to the innocence. but israel has no choice. your can be the next round where these people can come into people's homes and just burned them, shoot them, i won't say the raced of it. it was a very tough for three minutes. and as i said, my heart goes out. you were there with this gentleman in the studio. we need peace, but we'll get peace the day after amos is eliminated. >> rabbi abraham cooper, i appreciate you sharing all of that. and i also want to say, i do appreciate you sending your condolences to our previous guest. i think part of the problem here, so many people don't see the validity in each other's pain and suffering. and i appreciate you sharing that, as you showed what you saw last night. thank you so much. >> if i could just get one very quick thing. there will be peace. we were involved in the events leading up to the abraham accords. jews and arabs do not have to be lifetime enemies. we need new leadership. when we get it, there will be peace. >> they certainly do not have to be lifetime enemies. thank you so much, rabbi. appreciated. >> thank you. >> and up next for us, a stunning award. 35 years later. ♪ ♪ ♪