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I think that this is also a unique experience when we have the opportunity to see different programs, many opinions, different faces, leading journalists on the same button. This, in my opinion, is cool. Hello to belarus 1 to belarus come on four programs of the editors club, as always we are discussing in this studio 600 on bakarenko street, 9, the most important topic of the departing. Uh, seven days. Well, according to the already established tradition. Let me introduce the guests who came to us today on the program Dmitry Alexandrovich zhuk the head of the holding sb belarus today marat markov under the soviet government zoo the Second National tv channel alexander pokovsky director of the information and Educational Institution actual concept political scientist. And Vladimir Kornilov political scientist historian publicist journalists. Good evening. Thank you very much for coming to our studio. How much is written in ukraine vladimirovich so that ukraine or russia there are no editors, i will choose russia of course, russia uh, russia well, uh, we, what, are not here discussed over the past few years. So anyway ukraine yes, thats all, get used to it, because it is important for us to worry about words. And today, probably, too, most of the time. Our program will be dedicated to this topic. Although we will touch on them, the president of belarus gave an interview to a ukrainian journalist yesterday. I dont know Diana Panchenko at this hour. How many 12 oclock in the afternoon there are already more than a million views on different platforms, well, a huge number of views, well, surprisingly , the topic, firstly, worries everyone, not only belarus Russia Ukraine to europe and not im afraid of the word to the rest of the continent in hotels, the president of belarus was still carried away now involved in these events. And, of course, we are interested in finding out some details, for the benefit of the state. In detail, as far as i understand, he can reveal some things about the current situation. Uh, gave his opinion on why . It all happened. What mistakes were made that led to the fact that this did not end with, uh, peace negotiations, who is to blame . We can already draw our own conclusions. Yes, based on these stories and other information that e came to us, how things are now at the front. What is the prospect of ukraine if there is such a prospect . Now it is difficult to talk about it, but the forecasts are more and more tragic about the fate of this country. I dont know, so i dont believe it, and the president spoke about it again, and we talked a lot about it, that ukraine had some plans to seize ukraine, then belarus, you know, then the Baltic States believe. I think you all do too. We remember maidan 2014. We are up to the program remembered and then i watched in real time for hours. Its just that sometimes they started, even at the olympics in sochi, at some point, absolutely some kind of nazi character, the development of events on e, maidan took on an antirussian character, and an antimaidan appeared. I remember that yes, a bus from the crimea goes, beaten people were killed, then you yourself were confused, you heavenly hundred. Well , such frank antirussia was built, at least, but about the nazi regimes, maybe it was peering, of course, the question of crimea yes, a decision was made on the entry of crimea into Russian Federation well, first of all, historical lands. Secondly, uh, russian people live there, but thirdly, this territory, it seems to me, has pushed back all the red lines, if the russian leadership had them, then it is absolutely right. They in that situation had both in my opinion. Eh, i cant understand one thing to accept the decision that was made, here is Vladimir Vladimirovich to you. I want to turn to ukraine for a long time , you lived and you come from donbass, we all the time speak western. Im still here, uh. Lets, like a man who lived in ukraine well at least one reason was for a simple ukrainian to behave in this way in relation to the Russian Federation to the russian people to the russian language, so that this would lead to such tragic. Eh, economic political historical mental events. How could one succumb thats all and thus bring the situation to the present. Well, you know, ordinary ukrainians. They did not participate in all this by and large. If you look at the sociology, even that period at the height of the maidan, most ukrainians did not support this maidan, that is, the same in the height of the maidan still in the first place according to opinion polls was yanukovych according to the rating, that is, many ordinary ukrainians decided that this was not their war, not their conflict, that somewhere in kiev someone was fighting for power and nothing more , then these stories about the freedomloving ukrainian people to the city, it turns out a myth, if the majority was against what they were silent, such a majority still knew that this was not their war, that, in principle, all this was developing next. Maidan, you know, he was not alone, then it will all fade away. But when it finally came, the war came to them, when in the end they began to kill on their streets. Yes, how they came to odessa louder, set fire to people, right . And so on. Here it began to dawn on many that this was it. This concerns them directly, but this antirussian russophobic technology was launched in ukraine a very long time ago, and long before the maidan , russia and the ukrainian leadership were indeed warned about this at various periods. Many played along. Many did not believe that something could get out of control. E in russia to be honest, for a very long time there was such an attitude towards the fact that yes. Well, well, well , the economy will take everything out, that is, there will be economic ties accordingly. And ideology is all secondary, tertiary. Eh, and it was voiced after all, uh, at a high level, so to speak, e and it was not in vain that Alexander Grigoryevich said in this interview that everyone is to blame, and russia and ukraine and belarus, that is, respectively, just like that, relative to everything, we allowed everything it, that is, at all. Big fault, but hmm the technology was launched correctly untwisted for a long time scrupulously. And thats what you cant refuse ukrainian nationalists. Well, and, accordingly, those who fed them. Its in the system. They have been moving towards this for a long time since the 1980s, when they let all this diaspora, who were holed up in munich, into ukraine , they let it into its power, and so on. It all started all from the project, antirussia. Uh, got absolute support. That is, everyone pursued their own goals, it turns out they are drawn to the stylistic forces that were in the underground, they got power. It was profitable received access to Financial Resources and so on, and the United States is there, i dont know, lets put it this way, rudely. Here is the president , all the guys, lately, he only talks about them, that they receive the main benefits or received antirussia in order to further collapse. I dont know, but in russia china and so on. So, in quality. Yes, at first against the soviet union, later, in general, lets say against some of our common common civilizational interests, because ukraine, belarus and russia make up a space between them east slavic civilization. Here, in my opinion, the ukrainian ideology of ukrainian nationalism is a battering ram against this single civilizational code, and if we turn to the events of 2014, they were in kiev at that time and i can say that not only the rest of ukraine , but in general and the vast majority of the inhabitants ukrainian capital. They introduced an absolutely lawabiding, habitual way of life. As far as in ukraine it was then possible to argue the category of law, and the coup was carried out by the hands of social active politicized reduction, the driving forces of which were detachments of ukrainian nationalists, but not nationalities came to power. Representatives of the oligarchic contrador, and the ruling sloyka of ukraine, came who simply adopted these ideas for themselves. Uh, because in this way they demonstrated their loyalty to the states. Well, objectively speaking, we understand that neither yatsenyuk, nor poroshenko, nor the current leader of ukraine zelensky, in the classical sense of the word , are adherents of ukrainian nationalism. Ideological people. That is exactly the same foam at the mouth. They could also implement another ideology. If they had some financial motives for this, i dont know the motives there, for example, recruitment. I apologize for this word. Yes. There may be a mental other of some kind of zelensky by representatives of the western politicians, but in all likelihood it is screwed up. Hes pretty tight. Thats because he sang a completely opposite theses. Than those that he expressed during his Election Campaign in 2019. Remember there he was russianspeaking and he guaranteed about you, respectively, he promised to kneel before the president of russia only for the sake of concluding peace, but then he turned around 180 . Why , by the way, was preceded by a series of meetings with the leaders of british intelligence, this, without going into conspiracy theories, these are absolutely known facts available from open sources. Uhhuh yes everyone had their own interests, it turns out in this situation. There are parallels to be drawn here. In the end. Uh, its always the active minority one way or another with the passive everywhere. Yeah uh the majority of the population it implements its plans. And very much here. Well, in my opinion two things need to be remembered, history shows how it was. This was in 1917, the same 240. 000 great centuries. Yes, at that time it turned over 200 million russia, no matter how it was, that in belarus there was a different attempt to do the same thing, they were going here with the help of these 100,000 million, as they call them, and half of which have now left, and the other half is here now, uh, repenting on camera and in fact, we are talking about exactly those the notorious three percent that they drew for us and now, it turns out now eh. The fact that we are lucky, because in addition to the fact that the minority must be active, yes, that is , its presence is necessary to turn the country around, but there must also be a leader , so we had a leader thanks to which this did not happen in belarus, and now today we talked with Vladimir Vladimirovich yes. Uh, well, in ukraine it happened, because there were no leaders who would be able to think about the consequences precisely about the consequences about what will happen in the country, and this moment is actually very important, because , uh, you must always calculate the situation in advance, and we have said many times in this studio that a rocket flies into the house when it arrives. She doesnt understand. Who are you, yes . Or a thirdparty authority, it arrives and destroys everything and the most important thing is, in principle, what the president was talking about yesterday, uh, in an interview ukraine did not understand this and yanukovych in his time. C did not understand what this weakness of power, which he allowed, would lead to. Unfortunately, he allowed this as a result, hundreds of thousands of dead ukrainians correctly said about the conditions, but in ukraine there were conditions initially, because the most effective mechanism for destabilizing any society is an internal split. There have always been conditions for an internal split in ukraine, and this division into eastern and western ukrainians. It took place and why it was from there that antirussia began. Yes, everything is very. I can just say my personal experience will be everything schoolboy back in the days of the soviet union in the early eighties. We often went on Railway Excursions , including in western ukraine lviv mukachevo uzhgorod so at that time, if you spoke russian, everyone could refuse the kid, yes, in the service in the store, as soon as you started speaking belarusian, the situation changed , that is, precisely antirussia. They are some kind of their ukrainian superiority on something, and it was already then and it was competently used later, when with emigration they really returned those ukrainians who fled from soviet power and who fell into power. Yes. Lets talk earlier much in the fiftysixth year, when our policemen of the ukrainian bandera were amnestied, these people were returned to society. And these people raised their children. Uhhuh well, somehow it was. But look what happened next, if in our belarusian mentality, certain actions are unacceptable, because it cannot be. I mean the memory of the war, yes, and the erasure of memory. Yes, we probably have. More 30 of the population was simply slaughtered. Yes, they were cut during the war. There are not only germans, including the same bandera. Yes and here is the return, and the ideology of the policemen belarusian society. It was impossible because of this, then in ukraine unfortunately, locally in the west, these things became an opportunity and began. All when in the fourth year i do not get tired. To repeat this in the third illegal round , yushchenko was elected president , in fact, having made a coup and with his help made shukhevych and bandera a hero of ukraine. This turned society upside down and gave beacons to the young generation of ukrainians. In fact, they were told, you can zigger, you know, i ll bet a little here, of course, it has begun. Its much earlier. I to you i have kept at home. Sometimes he brought online directly showed on tv screens a textbook that, uh, launched, uh, in the early nineties. Uh, they were published thanks to the money of, uh, the canadian ukrainian deaspora. Yes, in ukraine as a guide for Primary School children, where there were already muscovites ruins and in. That, there, these Yuri Dolgoruki with these, long arms, which are up to until now , everything from russia is drawn to our ukraine. This, of course, was launched much earlier. That is, yushchenko has already come to e, determined on the prepared ground. Yes, but uh and uh with the children of the policemen, its also not so easy to understand that there were bandera people. Yes indeed returned, but eh uh, their descendants are a small part of ukrainian society. They werent popular. Uh, in the early nineties, and there in ukraine, in western ukraine, especially in rivne, lets say, where they hated bandera, remembering how they cut them out. Ah, ukrainian villages. Yes, there w you understand most of all. Most of all, the banderaites killed the melnikovites and banderaites of the ukrainians, but uh, or look yes, zelensky then as a Red Army Soldier uh yushchenko there, then, then to uh, a prisoner and so on. Well, not the cops. Yes, they all came from the superimposed e, friendship with russia of the people of the world. We have two prowestern president s. After all, they just won. Yes, in fact, uh, and they won thanks to the maidan coups. I mean, yunchenko and poroshenko the rest came. On the slogans, the russian language , along with the ukrainian language, is friendship with russia , including zelensky, of course, first of all zelensky well, first of all. I would point out that it is still here. Uh, lets just say, of course, collective guilt is present for everyone, because we allowed these disassemblies inside our house, that is , inside this community, which i immediately called the being a slavic civilization, but first of all, of course, those leaders of ukraine who either had a certain subjectivity, as kumu either should have had every opportunity to show subjectivity, like yanukovych, but here the situation differs radically from the belarusian one in that other motives were put at the forefront. Remember, uh, our wellknown medieval author mikol vysotsky has a song about bison. Yes, before the rich man with earthly happiness, he constantly held on to spiritual wealth, the golden power. That is, first of all guided by interesting states. Lukashenka is leading himself. Yes, its not that every kulikov praises his own swamp. But this indeed, no matter how much you search. Uh, lets say the western Intelligence Services, which have colossal intelligence capabilities , some money. Yes, the president s families are all laughing, they didnt find anything. But here the situation was completely different. Here vladimir knows so well why Leonid Danilovich kuchma , at one time, agreed to this shameful third round, that is, the succession of power. After all, in ukraine it looked in such a way that ukrainian statehood planned after all, what is taken from viktoria yanukovych he won the elections, but by organizing mass demonstrations of street pressure and , in parallel, the diplomatic pressure of the politician of the diplomatic pressure of western countries. Here is the ukrainian state. Kushva agreed to hold the third round , and it was clear that there they would lose territorial reasons related to close relatives, the presence of compromising materials from western special services regarding ukrainian leaders. Yakovlevich is the same, still people in ukraine are aware, that for the last two weeks of the existence of this regime, proxies, yanukovych around the world withdrew money. He was preparing to run, and in this situation, berkut simply performed the function of , lets say, a detachment that the yanukovo hat did not come up with. It is important colleagues stole did not steal. Yes, you understand the question right there, not even in his past, it was already crossed out by the fact that the ukrainian people elected him to the post of president in this situation as well. He had to behave as a state leader should behave. The majority of the people, elected by the people, were loyal to him, the people demanded to put things in order , the people, maybe they didnt organize themselves into some kind of independent, which means structures to save the ukrainian state. Although there was an antimail movement there, which, by the way, the authorities periodically muffled, by the way, but it was not organized. Why because they did not believe that Law Enforcement agencies were able to maintain order and i can tell you that Law Enforcement agencies. Ukraine if there were no political factor betrayals were able to localize these riots, and they cleared this square more than once, but in the evening, lets say, in the evening. They take away the most active troublemakers, hooligans, bandits of those who resisted and who offered armed resistance to the employees of the passage of organs, and in the morning an order comes to release them and all this is everything, this is the band of the formation. Again, it turns out to be on the square. You understand what a devaluation of power took place, 16 Police Officers were killed. Now everyone has forgotten about it, and this the first heroes who fell here for ukraine and how can there not be a devaluation of power, when in the other case , the intervention of external nonUkrainian Special services is obvious. Tell them that they will act in the interests of Ukraine Ukrainian citizens of the people. No, of course, they will act in the interests of the countries they serve, and lets say ukrainian is a platform. For them, it was only a field for achieving the results of their employers, thats all, and there is no need to let yourself be deceived here, that the ukrainian people. In this case, could change this situation. It is absolutely correct that we refract these ukrainian situation on belarus, uh, as for me, belarus attacked ukraine , which did not take place . Now, if we want to know, uh, what was it that you can see, because in fact its excellent, a bit not only in ukraine are extremely nationalists. Eh, nurtured prospered. Believe me, we had enough and they are still cleaning them out and such specimens have escaped there, of course, the criminal code, uh, the socalled belarusian nationalism is crying in the cradle, which means the german adler later the cia and mi6 are just the younger brother of ukrainian nationalism and cia documents that are gradually being declassified. Its just that once again we are told about this by a specific analytical note by an officer. A group, in my opinion, of the fiftyfourth year, which says that yes, of course, we cannot say that belarusian nationalism is an equally strong developed ideology in ukrainian, but due to the militarystrategic significance of this republic in the Defense System soviet union we will cultivate this nationalism in every possible way in munich in 1954. The belarusian edition of Radio Liberty still exists today. Well, more and more facts are becoming known about the events of belarus in the twentieth year. Eh, there he kind eyes open. You remember, uh, for bridges. Yes, we have the whole country justified. Uh, we have some kind of National National Strike Committee here. Yes, this man was created, it is doubtful his appearance then the head of the watch gave an interview to an extremist publication the other day, it is not clear that the idea failed to starve for the strikes. He says the whole country is on strike. Yes, she remained, and then the males were introduced in relation to the enterprise, allegedly at the enterprises they suppressed the people, saying that 1030 of all workers of the country participated in the strike. Found that the numbers are greatly overestimated admits. Years later, people just wanted to see. So they said that the workshop was standing, it turns out, its just that one team did not come out six people in your eyes, then everything in the workshop is like that did so here is this myth. Yes, remember how we remember the plate. Before the European Union , 400,000 people gathered near stella in minsk, but then they counted the pictures from above, there are 47 or how many it is together with journalists and forces and Security Forces. The whole Party Settled down all the enterprises became six people in the workshop. And it was like the whole plant stopped, then these six people left or left , in relation to the enterprise , Standard Technology was introduced. As you understand , invented not in ukraine or in belarus, uh, then there is, now they are remembering the fifty fourth year. Look here. Yes, britain made a fuss about the declassification of documents. Uh, 1953. They demand to recognize the role of mi6 already. The organization of the coup in iran yes, the United States has already recognized that everything has been declassified, yes , yes, yes, yes, the americans organized the overthrow of the last democratically elected Prime Minister of iran, they planted a bloody regime. Uh, t. Its elitist yes mass of blood and so on. And now the british have a surname there, they have declassified a friend of the british target, who, seeing that the american way fails, he went and paid in fact what we now call the maidan. He just organized the people whom he brought together and who were presented as these crowds, on strike, who came out to overthrow. This gave rise to intervention and so on, the technology is as old as the world and, of course, they are also trying to test it on us. Just need to line up from disease. Where is the ugliness from . I like that, in general, the collective smell has already ceased to hide that they overthrew the most different regimes of the most different states. For a decade on various continents, they no longer hide it. Do not think more honest steel. They just decided that they can already afford it. Thats all, but these technologies have been tossing and turning in exactly the same way. Why was there such a hype in the media yes, what is there 100500. 000 thats all, you must be how all the inner person works these six people all the enterprises, they should have encouraged the rest, well, follow the example, therefore, this is a lie, yes, the technology is correct, but it works efficiently. If she is not resisted, i will i will add that lets say these confessions, yes, in no way, but do not beg. Uh, subservience to the collective west on the part of those of its adherents who continue, lets say, to follow the next democracies. Well, lets say that the states supported the pinochs and dealt harshly with the reeds, what they say, in this case, little more was needed. The same thing would have happened, god forbid, if we had a coup detat or, as we say , ukraine is something that has already failed in belarus. Look uh, absolute hard mode suppression of any alternative points of view. And extrajudicial. Remember that program that they dumped a few days after the august operator, if you heard about it about this program. Yes, they then quickly rubbed it from the internet. Here is a temporary socalled Transitional Government exit from all integration associations and borders with the Russian Federation cooperation with nato belarusian language. The only thing that means the ban on the russian language is the autocephalous church, that is, they then hurriedly registered all that hell that yes, i would expect it for the next e years, thats all now they dont hide it anymore, because now in order to stay in the mainstream. This is what has to be done. Yes, it has faded into the background. They should make the most radical statement possible. As a matter of fact confirm. That is, if this documentation is merged with the ukrainian problem, in order to receive at least some funding for their activities, all these headquarters. What kind of ushmau is there, experts dont understand there. How many have been created various kinds of alternative cabinets, but the point is that in any case, this is the cultivation of nationalism. This is, of course, a product of the activities of our opponents. Here are the civilizational opponents who are trying to use these destructive ideologies in order to sow discord among us in the classical sense. You cant even call it nationalism. So it was a betrayal. To be honest, here they are, by the way, our next meeting was some kind of there, uh, pasha spoke sohaschak, where azarova is from they drove it, which of the baipals you know, that is, they complained about the situation, basically the main theme was that there was no money and the fighters were not financed there. It doesnt fund itself curious that i think an estimated 30,000 was spent just on this roundtable. Uh, one day and comments. There, of course, one should have seen one of my favorites. If you see that here the Belarusian Television is discussing khan. What do you even what do you create therefore, but what little interesting nuances are there, this was so attractive or sought after activities for even running. Yes, about 10 people commented on it, during all, yes, there, yes, and there are 27. How many thousand views are there in total, if there are also guys, journalists, who watched the broadcast and this is the impression that they were all sitting with smartphones it is in this for in russia the same structure and outside the whiteblue flag is going to do so. Yes, with the same goals, well, they are developing a single center. Well , the message was very important from my point of view there is no vision for understanding the results, because yes, the money is the most important thing. Yes it is. Listen to it sounds for years. Give pennies would not wake up the revolution tomorrow will watch. Lets have another sad fate and stuff. We understand that then all these tikhonovs appeared. So, i would be here in the context of the information war. You also added the informational confrontation, according to the speech of this delevsky, he, in his own maybe not consciously, unintelligently, revealed some cards. Why do they say that we had 100500 million. Why cognitive construct used already . Note. They never write opposition supporters or protesters no belarusians hmm minskers in order to cover everyone up with this one world. Here is a standard cognitive construction that should affect the human psyche. What is there, it seems, like everyone else, uh, dynamo is running and i am running, thats what they mean. This is to ensure that our viewers are never deceived. Here away for many years on the famous portal of three letters. Yeah, well, later yes, for 3 years some details have been revealed, which turn out that almost everything we talked about, for example, is confirmed in this studio and for a long time. Uh, before that, the same thing. And with regard to the ukrainian events, im always interested in the question of whether they could have avoided it, or now ive also finished it. In sense or here selfidentification . Yes, there, from russia, this terminology came there, there was a cycling position in relation to oneself. Yes, the Creative Class are people with bright faces, in general, where did they get the idea that your faces are bright, there, uh, angry the townspeople are not 3 1 2 clowns uhhuh, but some kind of angry city. For example, moscow or st. Petersburg is a member of the commission on the return of citizens who want to return, and there is e not only bright faces already. Believe it at least to disclose the details, but sometimes collect our protests, then according to the data of the ministry of the interior, about 15 , e, of the detainees were not previously brought to administrative criminal liability. Many repeatedly this question with a bright probably in ukraine the president spoke about how understood the events. Lets listen and discuss. Do you remember the moment when they agreed that the ukrainian constitution would be amended on some special status, even the isolation of selfgovernment in certain regions, donetsk luhansk, was not even called that, and then they came to the point that local elections were to be held there authorities. This is what stuck in my memory. Here i tell you absolutely frankly, what you do not know, no one has heard. We discussed these issues poroshenko with putin well, not the three of us, but separately, but i remember the conversation with putin. I told him, listen to a good option. And why not, so that gradually over the course of a year , two or three, this territory would not be disputed there and so on, as it was then. What option . Well bring a choice. Why poroshenko you say that to me. You know, why should i hold elections , they will be held under the control of russia, i tell him to peter well, this year, supposedly they will be held under the control of russia , we can agree to speak, as i suggested to them. I will hold there elections i will do as you agree. Putin poroshenko and i will see you off. How do you decide. Refused no poroshenko refused putin agreed to everything. And why did i remember it, then i thought so. Listen, well, this year, well, the elections will lead, the second year, the third year. What is an election . Do you already know in ukraine . And calmly quietly, the ukrainian hryvnia will go there. Uh, you will control this territory 400 km of the border will be ukraine in order to actually go to ukraine, but he was afraid that children would be chosen there, well, im frankly in my mouth that there the conversation was like this, well, not those this year, but you are closing the border here. Its all inside ukraine not those chosen. People have chosen, next year they will choose. This is how the conversation went, and then it was necessary to decide. This is a question, moreover, in minsk, uh, agreements here. We agreed on everything. Well , we agreed that it was necessary to comply with these minsk agreements, but they were not observed, and i understand that no one was going to comply with them. I was going to fulfill the minsk agreements 100 . I so poroshenko refused. What is missing . Well, it is clear that ukraine was not going to there to hold elections in the donbass why not donbass held their elections of course, no one recognized poroshenko , but you understand, could it have been avoided, here, theoretically, military operations had a huge number of such opportunities, since the ninetyfirst year, russia has repeatedly there were opportunities to correct e, so to speak, the policy of ukraine in ukraine was massive opportunities. Some of them. Uh, alexandrovich recalled just in this interview, uh, and in the nineties and then, that is, yanukovych had the opportunity not to bring maidan to this, and even more so to such bloody events , there were a lot of opportunities, you understand . Today i just discussed the events of the maidan with marat sergeevich, and i say that yes, for example, yanukovych could probably announce. And then the antiterrorist operation and conduct it in lviv, in fact, he was already trying to announce this very thing, then already in the midst of the maidan and then the war, probably, would have been in western ukraine , they would have bombed lviv and not donetsk, but you know, what is most striking and we must admit this with you, we would not have supported him. Yeah, of course, we would never have believed that these bright people with bright faces were timoshenkos. Poroshenko who could even think of bombing the donbas . The donbas would not have supported him. Its in hindsight now. Of course, we all understand it was necessary. Yes, of course, now i would give a lot to the donbass so that the war goes there, and not in the east in the west of ukraine , so that it finds it, but you see, nevertheless, despite the fact that many warned in moscow and kiev that such a scenario is likely to come to him. The west of ukraine is pushing, unfortunately, they didnt listen to the big one and didnt take it into account, didnt foresee the danger of such a scene. In my opinion, apart from how to unleash the conflict between ukraine and russia for other purposes . Its just that in this situation, i just dont see, well, because it was possible to resolve this issue several times, but a simple formula. The president says, well, you lose the first election, you win the second with competent work, but the second third you win the border you control. I understand that, probably for the population. Donbass is not a better option, yes or borders. Yes, this is not the best option and blockades. Yes, it would be a blockade, but in general , even poroshenko e did not want such an option. Uh, its obvious to discuss, but i got it. See that this is my personal mm opinion. Come on, thats what we see today as a result, whether decisiveness, or not decisiveness, but the ukrainian authorities and the current head of the ukrainian state of the previous one , which turned out to be some kind of big one. The group has shaped their personal personal ambitions, and for the sake of these personal ambitions , some kind of line of conduct was developed. Yes, perhaps it was developed under dictation. West it is not excluded, but they saw themselves as arbiters, yes, and those individuals who make decisions. And what, as a result , is this personal preference that has prevailed over the state, what the president was talking about when the conflict in ukraine began on your territory. Volodymyr is at war stop the killing of citizens of ukraine yes, and so today for these ambitions, the ukrainian people pay the lives of their sons. Thats where the disaster is. To me it seems that poroshenko was not really going to do this, he needed, apparently, a pause in order to put it mildly, to correct these positions, which at that time were clearly losing the losing positions of the Ukrainian Army. First of all. And when zelensky went to the polls. Yes, this is peaceful antiwar rhetoric. Uh, a promise to end the war in the donbass, a promise of peace he is also talking about the russian language. Naturally, he spoke exclusively in such a way that the second half of ukraine, which was russianspeaking. He just needed to win. Elections. The only thing i can disagree with is that they had more personal ambitions, maybe not. They certainly were only that to a lesser extent, however , im more inclined. Well, this is also my personal opinion. I am more inclined to believe that zelensky is absolutely absolute. Here he is an actor from this film, but about the president , who is absolutely nothing of himself, as a person he does not represent initially. Here is even a trip about which Alexander Pavlovich recalled. Uh, bow to the head of the Intelligence Service great britain, when the president of a sovereign country only goes to the office, yes, he doesnt invite him there, he goes there to agree on positions or receive instructions, thats what he says. Only about how initially, that this personality. She could not and was not able to stop this war and make any decisions. He, most likely, would have simply been destroyed, as, uh, a creature that did not fulfill the instructions to which he was taken, to which he was promoted, but on the other hand. Uh, if he really was a personality and put yourself on the altar. Yes, he could have died, yes, but then hundreds of thousands of ukrainians would have been alive, and then, in any case, a situation could have arisen that this would not have happened, and even when, uh, putin is literally there in a couple of months. Uh, the timatum put forward to the west that if russias conditions are met , security guarantees, yes, well, we remember very well that this moment was probably the last moment. When it was still possible to stop the war, but they could stop it. In my opinion, they are no longer ukrainians. Zelensky about that they are going to demonstrate the budapest agreements, yes, which means opportunity. The introduction of Nuclear Weapons on the territory of ukraine by that moment by that moment ukraine had already gone so far , it was like a locomotive that is gaining speed , it is no longer possible to stop it, and the west was the only engine of this locomotive and it was the west that determined the policy. Uh, first of all, the ukrainian president and the entire ukrainian government, which ultimately led to these consequences. But there is one nuance that i would like to emphasize, as always, to the end, the whole situation of the president about this is not calculated. Yesterday. Talked about what would happen next, where the border would actually be. Which regions will eventually enter russia, after all, because come on, kiev is the mother of russian cities. Yes odessa russian city. Nikolaev too not to mention kherson, not to mention kharkiv, and so on, dnepropetrovsk, which is not about now, because how the situation will develop further. And what are the boundaries of this. We can only now to assume, but i am sure that the westerners did not calculate this issue either. I would like to say that, well, of course, regarding the role of the west in inciting ukraine, i certainly completely agree with the fact that behind uh, zelensky and other, uh, top officials of ukraine are. Uh, western instructors. Here is the statement you spoke about in the denunciation of the budapest memorandum. Well, how could a man who goes bowing to a wagon nose make such a statement on his own, which means he was told that you are moving further along the path escalation of the conflict. That is, there was the possibility of this war. After all, he did not ask to stop putin to place russian bases, the military in mexico is speech. It was about the fact that lets move the military potentials as of the ninety seventh year, not to 1989, but to the ninety seventh. Let ukraine, uh, assume obligations from the status of not joining military blocs, and we will act as international guarantors, because what are ukrainians dying for now . I think that private mikola hardly understands in the trenches, and what better not to hear that he dies for the right to join the natu. Is it really such a blessing . Yes . That is, it is clear that it is not their interests. This is someone elses interests, which they blindly fulfill. It is also important here that the president drew attention to when Diana Panchenko asked him a question with reference to the current Ukrainian Public Opinion that zelensky defended kiev and ukraine organized a victory near kiev. The president said listen to the Russian Troops. They could notice ukraine, and by the way, i am also convinced of this. I also heard about it and read and analyzed these events. In my opinion military prerequisites. For the withdrawal of troops was not that is why the russian negotiator became political, and the political were colonelgeneral. Fomin want to see, but about putins reasoning lets listen. They say they are leading out on the street with direct fire, an ersazo gun. Antiaircraft guns are not only there, tanks are hiding behind kindergartens and hospitals. As he says to fight uh in the military with them. Here also speaks, we carry out precisely operation. We are on the outskirts, we cannot beat kiev, as they are without parsing. That is, he was worried that he would have to fight there. So there will be nothing left in the place of the school, because they are hiding behind the school behind the hospitals. And the truth is, it was then i will not talk about the reasons there. You probably know the Russian Troops who were on the guards left from there and no zelensky was reflected there, putin then withdrew these troops. Well, you just said sensational things, because i know very well the mood in ukraine is the main thing based on this zelenskys propaganda that he is not yanukovychs first did not run away, and repelled the second from russia. Uh, the russian attack and another very important issue of history at that time, diana zelensky , yours was sitting in the cellar at that time. He did not reflect anything, but the military saw how it would end . There, you understand what the situation was in two scenarios. Apparently, the scenario is the first deception of russia in the negotiation process. Why did the russian leader, who until the last wished to avoid bloodshed , decide to withdraw troops, and the military man, as i have already said, colonelgeneral fomin, deputy minister of defense of the russian the federation singled out at the negotiations, at least excitedly dropped a folder with documents, that is, the military understood from their military logic that we were leaving the building of early occupied advantageous positions, we were losing offensive power, but there were political agreements. The president. Hinted already told the jews. That is, israels poles, so there were probably some guarantees from israel to the vatican and turkey, they all acted as mediators in these negotiations. The negotiations apparently assumed the fulfillment of russian conditions, provided that conditions for curtailing offensive actions in such a direction. Yes, and russia dropped its part. The west, as usual, is not, but here you understand to condemn putin in that he sought to avoid the big one. But it is unlikely that someone will say it seriously, so someone will decide to do it all smart in hindsight. This is exactly the same as many now condemn stalin for not taking into account the reports of the Intelligence Services on the impending attack of nazi germany and everyone forgets that there was a huge amount of other information that said that perhaps this is all a provocation with the aim of pushing the soviet union against germany uhhuh, you understand exactly the same here, of course , uh, the russian leadership until the last hoped that it was possible to convince ukraine to return to normality at the cost of a little bloody show of force. This, unfortunately, did not happen, because certain people had a very serious influence on ukraines position. Uh, the then leaders of the collective west well, now he is there colonism of the british tabloid, it seems that the daily we write the ukrainian topic, in my opinion, everything is not interesting last. Here is the column he was interpreting. Uh, the barbie movie means , and the last one. It was great that he was forbidden to dig a pool in his yard, because some rare species of newts was found there , you understand, what should the politician you lost understand . Mikhalych you are the head of the e media holding. Yes, in the literal sense, we understand that we are working on the content that is interesting to the public in britain, this is elevated to the absolute because these are all commercial enterprises, the public is not johnson writing about ukraine is interesting, well, the British Public is interested in johnson writing about losing weight, you understand, because the perception of ukrainians and ukraine is somewhere far away in the barbaric historical world, not in ours, not inside our western civilization and duda , which by the way, polyakov is also perceived there on dudo. After all, he strives to look more civilized, yes, then in front of the finder. What that he is, what he said is a cheap way for the United States of america for the anglosaxons to wage war. These papuans are fighting, but it was catastrophic statement, probably in all the truthful perish. Its cheap to damage russia. American soldiers dont fight, and in poland they still dont understand. Why are they outraged in ukraine . That is, everything is said right now. Yes, they told the truth, but Diana Panchenkos words were interesting that zelensky, as a true actor , was upset after he came into conflict with alexander lukashenko. Hmm thats interesting information. This is another confirmation. She would assure that she knows exactly and reliable sources. And since a person ruined a relationship upset themselves. This once again confirms that he was forced to take these steps, and again, from which ukraine is indignant all the time, that Russian Troops entered the reserves from the territory of belarus and said that you started a war. You remember, there was no closing already. How much they talked about this on and the abduction of both people and material things. Values, but each maidan from 2014 maidan what belarusians were on the maidan and supported it under what flags all the extremists who were here belarusians went there, and then joined the formation killed people in the donbass , colleagues, the first mass noticeable riots in the republic of belarus, which were accompanied by acts of violence, attacks from outside, protesting against Law Enforcement officers. There are noticeable largescale events that happened in the ninetysixth year, those who wish can see the cars turned over just like that on the internet, there are a sufficient number of photographs, i just stood there, i was a witness and even a participant on the other side were militants from ukraine many of them had consequences detained by our militia connected the terms associated with the decision of svoboda that is, it has always been a factor. Threats of the state occurred in ukraine, this is our history. Although more, of course, we are talking about the conflict of you confronting russia, ukraine. But this is absolutely our history. Belarusian extremely nationalist circles are very closely connected with ukrainian ones and, uh, the famous video. Do you remember when on august 8, the day before the elections , a plane flies from kiev, 3 identical young people and one woman journalist get out of it, who then she said that when they were outraged in ukraine, that the plane was returned back. She says that you are indignant, i flew with them and the militants flew. Uh, in fact, listen in belarusian, we all know this, moreover, on the eve of these events, here, uh, the Ukrainian Special services behaved in a completely boorish way. Here are the active ones. By the way, they were detained here under journalistic cover , so the embassy, ​​in principle, after the start of the special operation, despite the fact that they should have understood that we were closely watching them, turned into recruiting center for sending our citizens to the appropriate bank for the formation of our citizens, we will not forget that participation in hostilities on the territory of a foreign state in belarus is interpreted as mercenary activity. We did not go to violate our legislation for reasons, er, lets say that we have a huge number of complaints against the ukrainian regime, and nevertheless. Yes, we did not enter the war, but we will never betray our allies to the Russian Federation, as defense minister makei, the minister of foreign affairs, calmly put it. Im sorry. He said that we are not at war, but we are not traitors. Uhhuh thats a very important statement. Uhhuh well, nothing interesting is involved. He is mikhailovich and those events that i recalled when he coexisted with other camps for the training of militants who came out to the square on december 10. We remember all this, yes, but our citizens forgot about all this. And this is the big problem. Ours from the doctors. Im sure now is the time. This is all history somehow through books through another show to society, maybe through movie. This is a very important moment. Why it is very important the fact is that i am talking about the ukrainian people absolutely normal classroom our brothers. Yes, we have always had a very Good Relationship with them. Yes, do not quarrel, well, nothing happened, but after the change of power in ukraine and these are the events that went into the postperestroika period. There , a base for training extremists clearly began to form as a platform, who could operate on the territory of states beyond ukraine , primarily belarus and russia, of course, of course, russia and this activity. It could not take place without the support of the central power. In kiev, it was supported by the central government. In kiev, even by turning a blind eye to their existence. It already has support. And we need to understand this and what we are told that it all started here from barakhta bay, but with the help of special services, work was carried out here. With big citizens, who were invited there, who were trained, whom Vladimir Vladimirovichs desires told us before the broadcast. What job completely open no need for any special services to connect the proposal were made open. Choose we need to change one message in our minds is very important. We are trying to look at this situation from our point of view. Here are some existence rules of moral and ethical standards. From that point of view, its nothing. No, we are an object that needs to be destroyed, therefore no norms and rules of international law, no morality exist. We in their eyes should become the target and the victim. Thats all we need to say about it today, at least to pronounce it like that. Well lets move on, the president , by the way, said that to some extent it can be a little figurative that the goals of his at the moment, it can even be achieved, probably come from no military goals , the alt president , suggested that ukraine after how is she . Well, after all, lets admit that i got a disease that hit, but how many people were killed, equipment was destroyed. I m just on the territory you would never again behave like this in relation to the Russian Federation, perhaps this or maybe, only then demilitarization, as we see, is going on constantly. Yes, that is, if you remember what the Ukrainian Army was at the beginning, then there is nothing of its own there, there is nothing left. Everything else western we see it and the destruction of manpower. If youll excuse me, now they are giving an interview to the new york times, ukrainian warriors there and another western publication, and they say that we have upgraded our unit there by 300 . That is, you understand, that is, it means several times, yes. This entire unit has already been completely destroyed. And new ones are thrown and thrown. I mean, well, eventually we realize that all the same, until the goal of complete demilitarization of the neutral status of ukraine is achieved, where . Indication of ukraine operation will not be completed. And when we remembered here. What proposals did russia give at the beginning , in fact, well, it was enough to recognize what had already been lost, the crimea of ​​the dpr of the lpr. Uh, not as part of ukraine, and to carry out these steps to demilitarize. If you dont go for it now, the application is almost daily zakharova did. I also remember the minister of foreign affairs. Every day they did not say that let s stop, because every next day will only tighten yours. Uh, not only militarization day is coming. I agree that ukraines equipment has already lost many times more rsos and tanks and vehicles and artillery systems than it had at the time of the start of the war, that is, they have pumped equipment here, if not 300, there e 400 . At least twice, but denazification is also taking place and the president spoke about it yesterday, anyway, but the most nationalistminded, lets say the most combatready. So, uh, parts, including, lets speak directly, the same azov and the same right sector, they suffered colossal losses. Uh, for these one and a half years, and one way or another, this is the goal of denazification, and they were primarily supporters. This idea, it is also being implemented. Even if by such methods. Well, unfortunately, this is a defect, so this moment should also be discussed now, and the president spoke about it yesterday. Now actually happening already set. These 300 that military units come here are due to these mikols, which are simply enough on the street. These are people ideologically not e, coached to the extent that it was e brought up everything of the basic or right sector throughout. Its untrained to say these dozens, but practice has shown that nato instructors trained the first few waves in such a way. Why didnt you teach better . It seems to me that those people who in ukraine were sitting in the trenches of the fourteenth year know much more than those instructors who are accustomed first somewhere in syria, uh, to cover the uh city with carpet bombardment, and then enter there on armor. Yes, the ukrainians complained that what their instructors taught them. What to do with the minefields of the russians and in this regard. Yes , indeed, we see what western instructors teach, they themselves do not know in modern warfare. All their combat experience comes down solely to the fight against the peasants. There afghanistan with disparate gangs. And so on, it turns out, in fact, the ukrainian state and the authorities have already lost today the war with russia is being fought by the forces of ukrainian citizens western technology and lets continue now published the same photo. Yes, where the ukrainian generals are no longer hiding over the map, or something, but nato instructors are already standing nearby. In general, no one knows anything, this is a caricature to me, it reminded me that here is an old joke. Remember classic. Yes, my chickens are dying there, and you sprinkle there, uh, all around, and here are a few more , all all the chickens have died. Uh, i still had so many options. Thats about the way there are still a lot of ukrainians. Yes, somewhere in the west ukraine uh sit, uh in the warmth and lets people in just, but the wallpaper touches me the western press. You remembered the new york times. And, of course, we discussed a lot here. Today, i will no longer give you these headlines, uh, we are monitoring the editorial programs all the time. This is how they provide information. Remember at the beginning of the counteroffensive the branded headlines of the previous program. I gave a dozen headlines there. And how have they convinced people over the past year and a half that if the saratov we allocate money with nato equipment to enter ukraine, then everyone will just hana and just i see shot last weeks on this week. I dont know how, in my opinion, the american publication was outraged that under some locality 31 units of wrecked western equipment were burned out and culture shock. Just people who for a year and a half. They read it all, now they cant understand why this is happening . Lets, lets speak frankly no wunderwaffe. The west did not have or not. Here again, it is argued in terms of implementation. Here is uh of our civilization Russian Orthodox civilization conventional german. They beat me more than once in the middle ages and ending with our day. Thats why its all in our history. We have already passed not our equipment, nor our soldiers, at least, no worse, as a maximum. Better than that, perhaps this war has such a protracted and stubborn character, because in the sense that on the civil side , this is dopey exactly the same , our brothers are somewhere simply on the other side of the enemy. Firmware in enemy interests on enemy armor is here, and they themselves are perceived here, remembering this statement by ben wallace. I never get tired of bringing it up, because you need to convey it to everyone that the Outgoing British minister of defense said. Soon, probably, it will also become a colonist of some newspaper, what is ukraine beta lebronders, combat laboratory, where we test the latest Weapons Technology and prepare for the war of the 20th century, the official of ukraine is the point. Bengus. At least i thought to say. Unfortunately, it happened even he understands what it is, unfortunately. And when the minister of defense of ukraine reznik admires and says. Yes please make of us, as if he said yes. This is a laboratory to pay, which i conditionally do not quote, bring very great benefits, because we let ourselves make mistakes, we die, that is, thousands, then these mistakes. The west will take into account the development of the court. What is the situation . Reznikov. Why are you so happy with dani . All the rest, kuleba and so on , they are not in the role of guinea pigs in this laboratory, like citizens of ukraine. But in the role of a laboratory assistant, that is , an assistant to the head, yes, that is , they are there food is brought you understand, something pocket is exactly that, therefore, well, why not traitors a little time. It remains to talk about our beloved poland , uh, the baltic countries are not going to close the border with belarus with the Baltic States. Lithuania closed two checkpoints. Well, once here, well, hit this topic many times. I think you said several times, when all this was brewing, that the ultimate goal would be to close the border, of course, uh, with the republic of belarus and i. It seems to me that they will see it through to the end, because it is primarily beneficial to them. The main thing for the owners United States of america i just cant understand, so they talked about the ukrainian leadership, on which they simply torment, manipulate, how they can kill people, they didnt achieve any goals. I will reach lets face it. And europe well, the gas pipeline was blown up. Okay, yes, the sholi is silent there, but we know the willpower of this great politician the same as e macron, but imagine the transit with the Russian Federation is closed, which is still there, yes from china and e, the peoples republic will be swallowed up keep silent, and with us this too, if the dollar expression is billions of dollars of enterprise, and so on. All are also transit countries. That is, it will be bent to hell, the final port and riga will be bent. Well, they dont talk about these categories there. You see, there, you correctly say biotics are carried out. So they have a second wind, if the second floor opens, which will receive warships with a much more powerful, lets say, deep draft. Today they see it as their own future. Unfortunately, the future is in building a society based on militarization. Contact borders is what Ivan Mikhailovich repeated many times in the program. Look, they will completely close the border. This is an obvious fact. Again, this is technology. E, which is no longer used for information for us for our society. The socalled delayed decision is a delayed decision. I think the decision was made a long time ago and was not made by the balts and poles. The question is different, so that this decision does not cause. Shock in their societies, so here so, overlapping individual transitions. They will gradually come to the result yes, the iron curtain will come. It seems to me from the other side, well, it is being built at an accelerated pace. This moment is the whole basic decision, which in my opinion provoked such steps. It was without visas. Uhhuh what other goals can pursue the same poles or turkey good . What gives what motivation, they say that wagner, uh, belarus has entered, so we must close. Yes, there are Horror Stories three wagner Nuclear Weapons migration border here helps from Nuclear Weapons. Yes , talking about this was very strongly stopped by high migrants. They are only through checkpoints. Yes, thats why we will be a soviet Intelligence Officer here, only powder stretching along the ground. Lets say right now more than 600,000 have already visited visafree, yes and well, i mean this year and these hundreds of thousands. These are the lithuanians who we shoot them ourselves. We show and show live people who clearly go to see what is here, uh, as a result of the union with russia and belarus, uh, russian bears did not come along with the wagnerites, they do not walk the streets, that here food is cheaper than gasoline , people live with bright faces. And we just remembered here in an interview today. Eh, we are talking about the fact that at one time, when two american citizens came to me, but to the studio. They also said one of them defended his dissertation in america at the new York Institute on a topic that suggested that the west was taking revenge on belarus for this good, beautiful light one. Example life without value without western values ​​is precisely for this we are being avenged. Listen, well, everyone knows this story of the velichinska family, yes , which sought to save their children, the socalled lgb and tried to escape belarus , their children were taken away from them. Here are the spouses themselves in jail and such cases. There is a lot in lithuania and i must say that they are convinced of something else, firstly, people live without these deviant attitudes, they are convinced that lithuanian propaganda in relation to belarus is completely false. They look at what and towards the lithuanians. Basically, lithuanians. Its just that most of them come and are treated kindly. No one from under means, uh, jumps out of the forest in a hat there. Uh, with the inscription kgb and they say, listen to the quince and give hmm yes, tell me where your missiles are not. We are in general. E always e our state was guided by this formula, which was given by the president of the neighbors from god even at times. So i caught myself thinking that i would like us to answer somehow tougher, and lukashenka , why is he wiser with experience in politics on the breed hot easy to break ties, how does it do . The same ukraine or the Baltic States are easy to burn. All bridges no problem. Uh, exchange unpleasant remarks with each other, but we will live with these neighbors. Our children will be like this for centuries, while there will be life on planet earth, and of course, in this situation we respond asymmetrically, trying to keep some channels open, but for them and for their owners. Naturally, every person who has visited belarus is convinced of the lies and meanness of their own propaganda. This is a threat to the political regime, he comes and says Something Like this here. And if its not like that here, then maybe its not like that everywhere. Hmm, such a situation in poland , it still leaves an imprint in poland, the Election Campaign, there are 30 30, 3 yes, or how much its gaining now, uh, described. This is clearly fair, for the sake of it, it must be said that , nevertheless, from all the groups that visit the least lithuanians come. Well, what about writing . Well, my personal opinion. There are no e global changes, lets say in the event of the defeat of this party, it is not yet a fact that wont lose. Maybe the government, even if they lose its not a fact that they dont win. The fact is that there is only one polyakov. The reasons that probably affect the number of poles coming to belarus and the polish authorities do not stand on ceremony with people who show at least some loyalty to belarus , the census also speaks about this. Yes, when uh to the west, or rather in the eastern regions, uh , at first 350,000 belarusians lived there, yes, who officially recognized themselves as belarusians, and according to the last 50,000 where did they go. They are on didnt really disappear. They just forced them to stay away, there are no other options, and when poland creates an iron curtain between belarus and poland, and they say that almost the Security Forces are pushing refugees along with factors, so we are destroying refugees. They are meant there by the hundreds at their border, so we dont let human rights activists or journalists into this zone. This needs to be protected in some way, including information, therefore. Every pole who travels to belarus is a potential enemy of the country, you understand, gate sergeevich actually. Here is what you told 350 and 50. 000. Yes, in bialystok , the voivodeship was a very simple mechanism. If you register yourself as belarusians, and thats what you have most that you are belarus, you cant hold any position that is financed from the state budget, you wont be a teacher at school, you wont be a police fireman, and so on. Everything is closed to you. You can now cultivate some allotment of land. Well, in the best case of the crypt, a shop is open. Yes and now to trade everything, that is, for you and closed for your children. This is the future. Heres the mechanism. What is this here . What is the segregation of the signaling about the fact that in fact there is a big difference between the tula or the scripture for us, that is, it is clear go there is a consensus, right . And paraphobic politics and so on , but you understand, er, what is unique and good about this situation in poland. When we can get a suspended parliament there, when we really see the intensity of passions, it goes off scale. I think it will continue to grow when there is a march of millions being prepared and so on. Listen, they have cracks in society. Yes, its clear that after the elections , whoever wins there, they will try to somehow bury these cracks, but in conditions when they openly unleashed a war against all of us. Yes, you understand, well, this is the old one. Uh, logic, the old war tactic kept the friend alive and kept the opponents unstable. That is, here, if pegs are now beaten into these cracks. Right now, without waiting for the elections to work out and absolutely right. Im here today cited this old magic formula sdd devour each other. And now let them devour each other and remember how the soviet union sometimes, not always, but sometimes skillfully used such tensions in certain countries here. Unfortunately, this whole situation goes much further than just talking in poland. We, you know, that they initiated the introduction of many restrictive measures, that is, sanctions against belarus, they come up with these fakes with helicopters that supposedly, uh, fly over uh, the border of poland and return back, while no objective control data cannot confirm there a huge number of troops right on the border at the fences, which is fraught with provocations, not necessarily from the armed forces of poland, and even more so for belarus there are enough crazy and interested corpses almost live thrown over the fence. The territory of the republic of belarus is a body, you probably also saw these shots. Therefore, if they only chatted there in warsaw behind the stands, it might not be so sad, but here, of course, we have such a crazy person at our side. I about the state, they are not very about the people. Yes. That is why it is necessary to support the tendencies that are now developing there within this state and not give them the opportunity to stop only at the elections. Here let focus. They now have a new enemy germany, you know, the last week and a half they have the truth there, in general, about germanys interference in the elections. Now, let him direct now, we must urgently throw the cry of the main threat from germany urgently transfer troops released material we, in my opinion, have a fragment on about the fact that e described the start of a campaign against the german interference of the polish elections, the leave has already been announced as something expected by the agent. Well, not the kremlin, and the kremlin is already on a leash, that is, here and about them there really now i read their comments to write. Yes, russia and belarus have somehow been forgotten there. All these higher activities are already germans, tusk is a german agent, and so on. That is, here, redirect this negative energy in the right direction and, please, for the sake of justice, on this antigerman mare, and pis have been riding for a long time and the past president ial elections. They used the german factor, that is, it works for them. Yes . Well, of course, but for them it is one of the factors afraid of the mobilization of society. You see, here is the nationalist ideology. She gives simple answers to uh, thats enough. Deep difficult questions. Who is to blame russian . Yes, the germans and so on. So it s the easiest way, there was a lot of talk about the reasons for what is happening, but its one thing when it s always from our lips. It always sounds interesting when u western politics. Let the ex talk about it or reporters in luckily lately. I dont know if you notice such a trend or not, its getting louder and louder. The voices on the other side are about the reasons for what happened here in the east of ukraine yes, in general, Eastern Europe , douglas mcgregor, you know this, yes , trumps adviser expressed such an interesting long but interesting thought this week, lets listen. The globalist elites rule in europe as they do here and they all got their way with huge amounts of money, because the people who control your Financial Markets and Financial Institutions the people who control your Mainstream Media now control your governments and they dont represent the interests of any of the europeans. Not i would say most americans, they represent their own interests and their agenda is to destroy russia why but they would like to replace putin because putin is in charge of europes last major power and this part of europe which has a National Identity a National Language a National Culture that rests on foundation orthodox christianity. This makes russia an enemy of the globalists. They flooded our countries with noneuropeans for the specific purpose of diluting and weakening us. Destroy our National Identity destroy our National Culture and of course destroy any remaining power that christianity might have culturally in the west and they want to do this with russia because russia has vast Mineral Resources Agricultural Resources and obviously oil gas and many others rare metals these things are also at the top of the agenda. So if you can destroy the russian government , if you can take out putin, if you can enter russia, you can deprive her of resources and enrich herself much more than you have already done with your behavior over the past few decades. Here is where we are. And thats why russia must go, but russia is holding on. No one hides anything about identity anymore. He says that she kept a little bit of what i remember. I told how the americans came here and say, well , take our russian film. Take away our shows and lets say so in your mornings. E in english. Let famous people read poems to children, they say, in ukraine, klitschko and poroshenko are read here. Well , why crashed into my memory . I say, well , there are no questions, well, American Television then in the morning in belarusian. Ah, a new land. As a result, the boys came to an agreement on their equal terms. Of course he doesnt want to work, or at all. Eh, the other one. Well basically, everything you want. We had more materials to discuss again with us for an hour 15 was ukraine but such is uh, and her fate is so fate, that is, i wanted to say ours, but such is her fate, while we are sad , we hope that everything is. It barks, although it goes in truth. Very hard to expect. Yes , one or two against fiftytwo this is such an unequal fight, but i think that in every sense the word will be victory. E is behind us, because it seems to me, no matter how propagandistic, not pretentious. Eh, the truth sounded behind us and in our transmission. We, probably already hundreds of examples of revelations of correspondence of plums and so on have been shown on this occasion, which confirm. Here, this thesis. So for now , thank you very much for coming to our studio today. It was. Well editors, see you next friday. Right here. Any journey can be exciting, exciting and full of adventure. This is the western gate, belarus, but these gates are guarded by a symbol of the city with an elevenmeter force, which in my opinion. Can be a symbol of our whole country offer together set off to explore the natural beauties and rich Architectural Heritage of belarus today, our amazing journey will pass through a wonderful city with many different unique places of interest with its amazing atmosphere of architectural monuments, there are only two, this is a synagogue and a gymnasium. But monuments to heroes. You wont believe the whole thing, but i am now in a real bunker, which has been here since the cold war and on the second floor on the night of november 2223, 1812. Travel with us to belarus 24 our program will be a good assistant when planning trips, when we talk about a trip, we mean hundreds, or even 1,000 km, so there is not necessarily a city not far from minsk where you will spend a single day with pleasure , picturesque places, interesting meetings, i could have become the ascension cathedral in borisov, but, to be honest, i didnt think that it was so beautiful like a huge gingerbread house, while inside i can only say one word. Its cozy here. Its true, unusual legends and fascinating adventures that the castle was a prison is not difficult to guess from the remaining bars on these windows, by the way, the locals say that at night you can still hear the ringing here until it gets dark, ill go. This is in the program i want to see it on tv channel belarus 24, an intellectual show in which there is a place for humor. You know how to determine the question that the participants will never answer, its very simple. Ask anyone you cant go wrong, tricky questions and unexpected answers. What is the alphabet such . The eighth character of the greek alphabet memorize must know your answer oak. Yes, everything, i like louder, clearly. Suddenly he starts asking again. I accept the answer. Each correct answer brings one of the teams closer to victory, and mistakes are fraught with the construction of a tower. I have not had time to fully voice the question, natasha has already written something there. You dont ask me in such a whisper so that the viewers dont hear us. Yes, watch the intellectually entertaining tower project on our channel. Since july 1 , amendments have been made to the law on external labor migration, what has changed in this document to optimize or structure the procedure for the departure of citizens of the republic abroad, which applies to our licensees, who are licensed by the ministry of internal affairs for the employment of citizens of the republic well, the second goal, of course, is the law. Well, including regulating the procedure for the departure of minors for employment. It is now also introduced the responsibility of state bodies that control the stay of adults abroad and all, uh, decide all emergencies that can connect. Well, the second, of course, is to simplify the procedure for attracting foreign labor force on the territory of belarus, certain circumstances, etc. Probably bring out certain categories of citizens who are foreign citizens who arrive on the territory of belarus. Here is the need to obtain special permits, that is, permits for work and in fact, that is, for this , and the main goals of these laws were in order to simplify the procedure attract foreign labor force on the territory of belarus well, to structure a little, probably, the departure of belarusian citizens abroad along the line. E licensees who are pursuing this idea. Well, maybe a few moments of simplification are the most significant. First, we presented the right such a thing has never happened before. For 30 years of independence of belarus, the right to work as a student, that is, foreign students who are well, about 20. 000 a fairly large category of persons can work on the territory of belarus without spices decisions on the basis of 20 hours a week, because the main goal, of course, is their study 20 hours a week in order to provide themselves with a living wage and in no case be involved in illegal activities, which, unfortunately, is also the first aspect of the other aspect, and Seasonal Workers grants that come for work, lets say our collective farm, which other enterprises can also work without a special decision 35 for the first time from the ministry of labor and social protection. Here approved a list of 10 professions for which you can also attract without obtaining special permission. This is from hiera and working professions and doctors. Well, that is, those professions that are actually in short supply in our economy and that can work for a year without receiving special destruction, but also you agreed specialists or athletes who work, uh, and who work in the National Team that are of interest for our country. That is, here is such a top category or list, well, as well as those persons, probably, who have already graduated from an Educational Institution of the republic of belarus and who are employed in their specialty. That is, here it is. Eh , aspect the focus is primarily on foreign students who have completed ours or are receiving education or have completed their education on the territory of our country and want to stay in belarus cannot bring. Eh, contributions to the economy and use, but i want to say already we are more than 100, and Employment Contracts have been concluded by those persons who work according to the list of specialties approved by the ministry of social protection. And there are also engineers. There is also doctors. There are workers there, there are also drivers, that is, the whole spectrum of the specialty plays just right. I think that its not in vain that it bears official protection of labor for quite a long time. In general, i determined this list of specialties so that it would be the most sensitive for the economy, so that foreigners, of course, come and work in this series are working. Documents are already everything works, and people and the economic entity in them , first of all, also feel a certain relief from this, because, of course, it is not always possible to simply get special decision on the right to engage in labor activity. Moreover, from july 1, we also canceled the socalled permit for n for a permit to attract foreign labor when the hours of a foreigner were more than ten. We also canceled this in order to take this, but an administrative barrier and to facilitate the work of foreign citizens in the territory our country. Any journey can be exciting, exciting and rich in adventure, svisloch is the western gate, belarus, but these gates are guarded. The symbol of the city is an elevenmeter strength that is in my mind. Perhaps a symbol of our entire country , we offer to go together to explore the natural beauties and rich Architectural Heritage of belarus today, our amazing journey will pass through a wonderful city with many different unique places of interest with its amazing atmosphere of architectural monuments, there are only two, this is a synagogue and a gymnasium. But monuments to heroes. A whole alley, you wont believe it, but now im in a real bunker, which has been preserved here since the cold war on the second floor on the night of 202 november 23, 1812. Where are all the participants of the intellectual show with us on belarus 24 . I know different things, i remember that maraninas cursed these mouths. They belong. In america, the only problem is that i do not remember any south or north, but they have a common feature. They go to school not for grades, but for knowledge it is written with two letters. N , firstly, because to break what to do and because there is a word here, i accidentally found out that 3 4 would be 81, if im not mistaken, but four in the third it will be 64 they are ready to show off their minds and answer all questions. I answered no because i thought that 3 Million People for the 16th century is too much of a desert population, there is such a thing. It is called atacama but if speaking about the wet continent of the earth, then i also tend to answer, south america, see the project. I know on tv channel belarus 24. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week we are working to keep you up to date with Current Events in the country and the world. 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