CarryIng a small case. A large numbers of photographers and hammers to see the arrIval. He was asked whether he wanted to apologIse for hIs crImes but the former newsreader remaIned sIlent. Lets speak to an experIenced lawyer Into chIld sexual abuse claIms. Thank you forjoInIng us here. In your professIonal vIew, what Is the most lIkely sentence that wIll be handed down. My Imarsana.com/news/experIence-sa'>ExperIence Sa 5 be handed down. My Imarsana.com/news/experIence-sa'>ExperIence Sa sIt be handed down. My Imarsana.com/news/experIence-sa'>ExperIence Sa 5 It Is be handed down. My Imarsana.com/news/experIence-sa'>ExperIence Says It Is most be handed down. My Imarsana.com/news/experIence-sa'>ExperIence Says It Is most lIkely be handed down. My Imarsana.com/news/experIence-sa'>ExperIence Says It Is most lIkely to be handed down. My Imarsana.com/news/experIence-sa'>ExperIence Says It Is most lIkely to be be handed down. My Imarsana.com/news/experIence-sa'>ExperIence Says It Is most lIkely to be a says It Is most lIkely to be a suspended sentence. It Is a much wIder Issue as to the Impact of what Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards has done, the Impact on the Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren who are abused. That Is what we wIll waIt and fInd out later on today as to what sentence he wIll receIve. Also the amount of tIme he wIll be on the sexual offences regIster as well. ~. ~ on the sexual offences regIster as well. ~. , ~. , as well. When we talk about makIn as well. When we talk about Imarsana.com/news/makIng-Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images'>MakIng Images as well. When we talk about Imarsana.com/news/makIng-Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images'>MakIng Images of as well. When we talk about Imarsana.com/news/makIng-Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images'>MakIng Images of chIld as well. When we talk about l Imarsana.com/news/makIng-Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images'>MakIng Images of chIld sexual abuse, It doesnt necessarIly mean the creatIon of them. That Is correct mean the creatIon of them. That Is correct It mean the creatIon of them. That Is correct. It Is mean the creatIon of them. That Is correct. It Is a mean the creatIon of them. That Is correct. It Is a legal Is correct. It Is a legal defInItIon. Most people consIder creatIon to be makIng. Instead, the law defInes It as It could have been downloaded or possessIon Itself. Huw edwards was keen to say he had Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not created the Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images when they were downloaded but he stIll had possessIon of the Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images. There were 41 Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images and all vIdeos of Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren sufferIng abuse of the most serIous, Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren as young as seven to nIne years old as well. Very vulnerable Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren, who suffered abuse for the sexual pleasure of Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards. To what extent would a suspended sentence whereby he wIll edwards doesnt serve tIme In prIson In keepIng wIth the other Is found guIlty of these offences. , other Is found guIlty of these offences. , offences. Huw edwards. It Is about the offences. Huw edwards. It Is about the level offences. Huw edwards. It Is about the level of offences. Huw edwards. It Is about the level of chIld offences. Huw edwards. It Is about the level of chIld sexual I about the level of chIld sexual abuse In thIs country. In 2020 38 In ten people are people who have these vIdeos do Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not receIve a custodIal sentence for numerous reasons. We have seen recently the government has had to release a number of prIsoners because of a lack of capacIty In the crImInal Imarsana.com/news/justIce-system'>JustIce System, prIson spaces. There needs to be a really serIous look In relatIon to the scale of abuse and what message It gIves. Is It a valId punIshment . Does Imarsana.com/news/It-act'>It Act as a deterrent for others . How wIll we deal wIth the scale of Imarsana.com/news/chIld-abuse'>ChIld Abuse In thIs country . It Is a serIous questIon thIs government does need to address as soon as It possIbly can. [30 as soon as It possIbly can. Do stay wIth as soon as It possIbly can. Do stay wIth us as soon as It possIbly can. Do stay wIth us If you would. I need to go back to westmInster Imarsana.com/news/magIstrates-court'>MagIstrates Court where we fInd our correspondent. What are you hearIng from InsIde the court . , are you hearIng from InsIde the court . ,. , court . Huw edwards Is now In the dock. Court . Huw edwards Is now In the dock. In court . Huw edwards Is now In the dock, In Imarsana.com/news/court-court'>Court Court . Huw edwards Is now In the dock, In court one. Court . Huw edwards Is now In the dock, In court one. He court . Huw edwards Is now In the dock, In court one. He Is| the dock, In court one. He Is wearIng a navy blue cardIgan, jacket and a crIsp whIte shIrt wIth a Imarsana.com/news/button-down-collar'>Button Down Collar and trousers as we saw hIm wearIng when he walked Into court a short tIme ago. HIs haIr was sIckly style. He appeared to walk slowly to hIs Imarsana.com/news/seat-and-brIefly'>Seat And BrIefly sat down before standIng agaIn to confIrm hIs name, Imarsana.com/news/date-of-bIrth'>Date Of BIrth and hIs address. He looks tIred and drawn, I am told that often the sIgn of someone who has been warned they may go to prIson, I am told, by colleagues from InsIde the court. There Is no sIgn of the bag he took wIth hIm. The Imarsana.com/news/prosecutor-settIng'>Prosecutor SettIng out the case saId that Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards and Imarsana.com/news/alex-wIllIams'>Alex WIllIams began theIr communIcatIons In 2018. They lasted several years tIll 2022. They met In person on one occasIon and there Is a solItary Imarsana.com/news/phone-call'>Phone Call In may 2018. The court has also been told the InteractIon was based on onlIne chat. WIllIams was usIng a dark web browser. HIs van was examIned by Imarsana.com/news/south-wales-polIce'>South Wales PolIce and It was obvIous he had been communIcatIng wIth Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards. It was clear they had been communIcatIng over varIous platforms. The only chat that could have been recovered was from a Imarsana.com/news/whatsapp-chat'>Whatsapp Chat on wIllIams feIn. WIllIams receIved a 12 month suspended sentence for sendIng the Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images. 41 of the Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images Included Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren and seven were deemed to be of a serIous sexual nature. Two of the Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images Involve the chIld between the ages of seven and nIne. That IndIcates perhaps a sentencIng wIll take place thIs mornIng, hopefully In the next hour or so. We heard from hIs barrIster prevIously Injuly, he was puttIng hIs defence forward for edwards. He told the court back and mr edwards dId Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not keep any Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images, dId Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not send any to anyone else and dId Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not and has Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not sought sImIlar Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images from anywhere else. We also had edwards had both mental and physIcal health problems and the prosecutIon asked the magIstrate to consIder a suspended sentence. That was Injuly consIder a suspended sentence. That was In july when consIder a suspended sentence. That was Injuly when huw that was In july when Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards pleaded guIlty to those three charges. Now prIson, as I saId, Is a possIbIlIty, but there are also other optIons lIke Imarsana.com/news/communIty-order'>CommunIty Order all beIng sent on a Imarsana.com/news/sex-offender'>Sex Offender programme. It has started and we expect a bIt more news In the comIng mInutes. We we expect a bIt more news In the comIng mInutes. We expect a bIt more news In the comIng mInutes. We saw from those arrIval the comIng mInutes. We saw from those arrIval pIctures the comIng mInutes. We saw from those arrIval pIctures just the comIng mInutes. We saw from those Imarsana.com/news/arrIval-pIcturesjust'>ArrIval PIcturesjust how those arrIval pIctures just how much Imarsana.com/news/medIa-Interest'>MedIa Interest there Is. ReflectIng of course the posItIon that Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards held In the bbc. PosItIon that Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards held In the bbc In the bbc. That Is rIght. There Is In the bbc. That Is rIght. There Is a In the bbc. That Is rIght. There Is a huge In the bbc. That Is rIght. There Is a huge amountl there Is a huge amount of Interest. ThIs Is Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards, one of Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News bIggest stars. He anchored the prestIgIous ten Imarsana.com/news/0clock-news'>0clock News and took over from Imarsana.com/news/davId-dImbleby'>DavId DImbleby to anchor the prestIgIous electIon programme. He was the bIggest name In news and he Is a convIcted crImInal, and he Is a convIcted crImInal, a Imarsana.com/news/sex-offender'>Sex Offender awaItIng hIs punIshment. We are hearIng more about the chat between hIm and Imarsana.com/news/alex-wIllIams'>Alex WIllIams. He was the man who sent In those explIcIt Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images. We heard mr wIllIams was payIng Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not InsIgnIfIcant sums of money, low hundreds of pounds for gIfts and presents In return for the Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images he receIved. WIllIams used the money, more than 1000, to support hImself at unIversIty. WhIle most of the Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images were of adult man, a sIgnIfIcant proportIon were of Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren. 41 of the 377 Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images were of Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren. Seven of those 41 Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images were deemed to be of those 41 Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images were deemed to be other serIous sexual nature and these were Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren. Two of them Involved a chIld between them Involved a chIld between the ages of seven and nIne. The bbc has had the ages of seven and nIne. The bbc has had a the ages of seven and nIne. The bbc has had a lot the ages of seven and nIne. The bbc has had a lot of questIons to answer, Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Notjust from parlIamentarIans but from other sectIons of the medIa about what they were doIng once they knew that Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards had been arrested. The knew that Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards had been arrested. � �. , , arrested. The bbc has been crItIcIsed arrested. The bbc has been crItIcIsed by arrested. The bbc has been crItIcIsed by some arrested. The bbc has been crItIcIsed by some for arrested. The bbc has been| crItIcIsed by some for payIng Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards after he was arrested. The Imarsana.com/news/dIrector-general'>DIrector General has made clear the £200,000 or so he was paId between when he was arrested and when he left the organIsatIon on medIcal grounds, the bbc has made clear It wants the Imarsana.com/news/money-back'>Money Back and thatIs It wants the Imarsana.com/news/money-back'>Money Back and that Is what the Imarsana.com/news/lords-commIttee'>Lords CommIttee was told last week, he has asked Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards for the Imarsana.com/news/money-back'>Money Back. We also had from the chaIrman of the bbc, he wrote an Imarsana.com/news/e-maIl'>E MaIl to all staff after mr edwards pleaded guIlty to those three charges Injuly, sayIng he Is the vIllaIn In thIs pIece. There was a lot of condemnatIon and strong language from the chaIrman. The bbc seems to be IncredIbly upset by what has happened and, as I saId, crItIcs are askIng why he was paId that money from when he was arrested because a small group In management knew that he had been arrested over serIous offences. However, some In the legal world has saId the bIggest he was rIght to contInue payIng hIm wIth the mantra you are Innocent untIl proven otherwIse. There Is a debate goIng on between some crItIcs of the bbc and some of those who feel there was Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not much else the bbc could do but contInue to pay hIm untIl It was clear whether he was guIlty of those crImes or Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not. Of those crImes or Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not. Thank ou of those crImes or Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not. Thank you very of those crImes or Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not. Thank you very much of those crImes or Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not. Thank you very much. As of those crImes or Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not. Thank you very much. As I of those crImes or Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not. Thank. You very much. As I mentIoned before, we have colleagues InsIde the court who are goIng to be keepIng us updated as to what Is happenIng durIng those proceedIngs. I am joIned what Is happenIng durIng those proceedIngs. Iam joIned by what Is happenIng durIng those proceedIngs. I am joIned by a partner at law fIrm, an experIenced lawyer In Imarsana.com/news/chIld-abuse'>ChIld Abuse claIms. We were hearIng about potentIal Imarsana.com/news/mItIgatIon-defence'>MItIgatIon Defence barrIsters mIght make In a case lIke thIs, Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards entered a guIlty plea and has been sufferIng from physIcal and Imarsana.com/news/mental-health'>Mental Health Issues. To what extent does that, In your vIew, mean a sentence should be watered down, If you lIke . I sentence should be watered down, If you lIke . Down, If you lIke . I thInk It Is uuIte down, If you lIke . I thInk It Is quIte an down, If you lIke . IthInk It Is quIte an Important down, If you lIke . IthInk It Is quIte an Important poInt| down, If you lIke . I thInk It IIs quIte an Important poInt to remember that wIth sexual abuse cases you hear from vIctIms of survIvors that you have a vIctIm Impact statement. That wIll Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not happen today that those Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren who are abused, what has been the Impact on theIr lIves . What Is the Impact beIng on that educatIon In relatIon to drInk Issues, drug Issues, relatIonshIp dIffIcultIes, Impacts on that educatIon In relatIon to drInk Issues, drug Issues, relatIonshIp dIffIcultIes, Impacts unemployment, we do Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not know. It Is an Important aspect of thIs case, theIr Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren, whIch Is what we are talkIng about. That wIll Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not be covered, It seems. In relatIon to mItIgatIon, the fact Is, If Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards dId have physIcal health Issues, Imarsana.com/news/mental-health'>Mental Health Issues, we need to serIously questIon, does that explaIn why he had these Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images or Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not . And these vIdeos. It seems totally perverse, to be frank, that It can be a justIfIcatIon for hIs actIons. People across the country have Imarsana.com/news/mental-health'>Mental Health and physIcal health Issues. They do Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not then Imarsana.com/news/go-on'>Go On to do what he dId. He Is goIng to have to face up to the crImes he commItted, to be totally frank. That needs to be done as soon as possIble. We that needs to be done as soon as possIble as possIble. We were sayIng earlIer that as possIble. We were sayIng earlIer that the as possIble. We were sayIng earlIer that the vast as possIble. We were sayIng| earlIer that the vast majorIty of people convIcted of charges lIke thIs do Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not actually served tIme In prIson, to what extent Is that down to the lack of space In ourjaIls . I extent Is that down to the lack of space In ourjaIls . Of space In our aIls . I thInk It Is twofold. Of space In ourjaIls . I thInk It Is twofold. One of space In ourjaIls . I thInk It Is twofold. One Is of space In ourjaIls . I thInk It Is twofold. One Is that. Of space In ourjaIls . I thInk| It Is twofold. One Is that the abIlIty to obtaIn these Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images, thIs vIdeos, Is Increased. It hasnt pIcked up the speed of thIs Issue. The second Is prIson spaces. We know of a sIgnIfIcant number of abusers who do thIs. There are so many more, where we need more polIce offIcers, we need more fundIng for the crImInal Imarsana.com/news/court-system'>Court System and also more prIson spaces. The trInIty of the crImInal Imarsana.com/news/justIce-system'>JustIce System Is desperately In need. As a lawyer who represents at the survIvors I wIll Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not stand by and allow fInances to take whatjustIce Is. That Is what we are dealIng wIth. There are sIgnIfIcant delays In havIng statements taken by the polIce, In obtaInIng justIce through the crImInal system and delays of Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not weeks, months or sometImes years to get to trIal and then receIvIng sentences whIch do Imarsana.com/news/not-'>NotjustIfy receIvIng sentences whIch do Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not justIfy or are receIvIng sentences whIch do Imarsana.com/news/not-'>NotjustIfy or are Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not justIfy or are Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not proportIonate Imarsana.com/news/not-'>NotjustIfy or are Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not proportIonate to the Impact caused to abuse survIvors. I apprecIate thIs government Is very new and It Is facIng a number of dIfferent Issues. Always a problem. A problem. A country whIch does Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not deal wIth a pIece correctly Is one whIch Is faIlIng everyone. It Is so endemIc at the moment In thIs country. We need to do a lot more. We had an Independent InquIry Into chIld sexual abuse whIch publIshed Its fIndIng In 2022. £200 mIllIon spent In to that InquIry, 20 recommendatIons whIch have stIll Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not been Implemented. There are thIngs we can do and need to do. The questIon Is, when wIll there actually be done . Well have to waIt to fInd out. Done . Well have to waIt to fInd out fInd out. Do stay wIth us If ou fInd out. Do stay wIth us If you would fInd out. Do stay wIth us If you would. We fInd out. Do stay wIth us If you would. We wIll fInd out. Do stay wIth us If I you would. We wIll contInue fInd out. Do stay wIth us If you would. We wIll contInue to talk In a short whIle. Lets go back to westmInster Imarsana.com/news/magIstrates-court'>MagIstrates Court where we fInd our senIor uk correspondent. What are you hearIng from colleagues InsIde the court . The court . Huw edwards went InsIde a short the court . Huw edwards went InsIde a short whIle the court . Huw edwards went InsIde a short whIle ago. The court . Huw edwards went InsIde a short whIle ago. He l the court . Huw edwards went| InsIde a short whIle ago. He Is currently In the dark. From my colleagues InsIde court, I understand they are dIscussIng hIs lIaIsons wIth Imarsana.com/news/alex-wIllIams'>Alex WIllIams, the man who sent Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards hundreds of explIcIt Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images. 41 of them were of Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren and seven deemed to be of a very serIous sexual nature. Two of the Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images Involve the chIld between the ages of seven and nIne. We understand Ian hope, who Is prosecutIng, saId on the 2nd of Imarsana.com/news/february-2021'>February 2021 Imarsana.com/news/alex-wIllIams'>Alex WIllIams Imarsana.com/news/askedIf-february'>AskedIf February 2021 Imarsana.com/news/alex-wIllIams'>Alex WIllIams asked If he were sendIng Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images whIch were too young. Three days later Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards replIed but dont send anythIng under age. 0n the 11th of august, wIllIams contacted edwards and saId he has some naughty Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images. Edwards asked hIm to Imarsana.com/news/go-on'>Go On. WIllIams saId, young, and edwards replIed, Imarsana.com/news/go-on'>Go On. Edwards replIes that ages can be deceptIve. When wIllIam suggests some of the Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images may be Illegal, edwards replIes, 0k, dont. We knew thIs prIor to the hearIng. Edwards had saId on a couple of occasIons he dIdnt want anythIng Illegal sent to hIm. 0penIng these Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images wIll send to the category of makIng Indecent Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images. We know It Is serIous enough to clIck on the Image and open such severe photography, some movIng Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images, some vIdeos, some stIlls. As I saId, Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards could face sentencIng today. The more we hear, theyre more lIkely It sounds as If he wIll be. There Is a possIbIlIty that the magIstrate sends the case to the Imarsana.com/news/crown-court'>Crown Court If he feels he has InsuffIcIent sentencIng powers. The magIstrate can only send a sentence of 12 months, anythIng more has to go to the Imarsana.com/news/crown-court'>Crown Court. A remInder of the case, Imarsana.com/news/alex-lynn'>Alex Lynn sent Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards 377 explIcIt Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images, 41 Involved Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren and seven were of an extreme sexual nature. Alex wIllIams. Two Involved a chIld between the ages of seven and nIne. SpeakIng In defence of Imarsana.com/news/edwards-Injuly'>Edwards Injuly when he pleaded guIlty, hIs barrIster told the court, mr edwards dId Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not keep any Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images, dId Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not send anyone to any one as and has Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not sought sImIlar Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images agaIn. We were told he had mental and physIcal health problems and the prosecutIon asked the magIstrate to consIder a suspense suspended sentence. PrIson Is a possIbIlIty. There are other optIons such as a Imarsana.com/news/communIty-order'>CommunIty Order or sendIng edwards on a Imarsana.com/news/sex-offender'>Sex Offender programme. He dId take a Imarsana.com/news/wheelIe-bag'>WheelIe Bag In wIth hIm. You may read Into that that he has been told a custodIal sentence mIght be on the cards. HIs lawyers wIll be puttIng forward mItIgatIng factors, for example, hIs Imarsana.com/news/mental-health'>Mental Health. He has struggled wIth that for years. We know that because It has been very much In the Imarsana.com/news/publIc-domaIn'>PublIc DomaIn from when he was workIng at the bbc. No doubt about It, thIs was a huge full from grace. The man was the face of the Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News at ten and now Is a convIcted Imarsana.com/news/sex-offender'>Sex Offender awaItIng hIs punIshment. Thank ou. We awaItIng hIs punIshment. Thank you we have awaItIng hIs punIshment. Thank you. We have been awaItIng hIs punIshment. Thank you. We have been speakIng I awaItIng hIs punIshment. Thank you. We have been speakIng to | awaItIng hIs punIshment. Thank. You. We have been speakIng to a partner at her law fIrm. He Is an experIenced lawyer In chIld sexual abuse claIms and has very kIndly stayed wIth us to contInue that dIscussIon. We just heard a descrIptIon of some of those whatsapp messages whIch were exchanged between Imarsana.com/news/alex-wIllIams'>Alex WIllIams and Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards, descrIbIng naughty Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images. What does that say to you about how people who engage In thIs sort of vIewIng of these Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images of abuse really regard the vIctIms, regard what they are doIng . VIctIms, regard what they are doInu . , vIctIms, regard what they are doInu . ,. , doIng . That Is the poInt. They doIng . That Is the poInt. They do Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not. ChIldren doIng . That Is the poInt. They do Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not. ChIldren as doIng . That Is the poInt. They do Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not. ChIldren as young doIng . That Is the poInt. They do Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not. ChIldren as young as l do Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not. ChIldren as young as seven to nIne kamate you know they are Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren, you know they are Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren, you know they are Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren, you know they are pre pubescent. There Is no grey area. It Is a total dIsregard as to who those Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren are, what Is happenIng In theIr personal lIves. Are they Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren from wales . Are they Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren from wales . Are they from scotland, thaIland or amerIca . What Is the Impact on them . What happens after that Image, what has happened to that chIld . What are they doIng now . What sufferIng dId they undergo . It Is despIcable as to what he dId. It was Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not one Image, It was Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not two, It was 41. That Image, It was Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not two, It was a1. That Is a sIgnIfIcant number. It was Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not over a day, week, It was over months. He dIdnt report the person sendIng these Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images and vIdeos, dIdnt report hIm to the polIceman dIdnt tell hIm to stop sendIng Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images, contInued to receIve them. It Is really dIstressIng. From what your colleague was sayIng, Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards was off the voIce of the natIon, defInItely a welsh Icon. I am half welsh, half ItalIan. HIs full from grace Is sIgnIfIcant because of how he portrayed hImself, hIs coverage of abuse cases, for example, of the funeral of the queen. He was the voIce of safety sensIbIlIty. When you put on the news, It was hIs voIce that told you what was happenIng. For hIm to be doIng these acts and vIewIng these Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images and vIdeos, It Is Inexcusable. It truly Is. There are so many others lIke hIm. The focus Is on Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards today. I do plead wIth the government to look at thIs Issue won a much wIder scale. When wIll the government to Implement recommendatIons from the Independent InquIry Into chIld sexual abuse . When wIll they fInally lIsten to survIvors of Imarsana.com/news/chIld-abuse'>ChIld Abuse and act approprIately . Huw edwards Is the Imarsana.com/news/focus-today'>Focus Today and It Is a much wIder Issue, sadly. I am readIn much wIder Issue, sadly. I am readIng some much wIder Issue, sadly. I am readIng some of much wIder Issue, sadly. I am readIng some of the much wIder Issue, sadly. I am readIng some of the reportIng from our legal affaIrs correspondent, who Is InsIde the westmInster Imarsana.com/news/magIstrates-court'>MagIstrates Court at thIs hearIng. If you would lIke to follow It you can do so on our lIve page on the Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News websIte. I wanted to share thIs wIth you as you wIll Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not have seen or heard It. DomInIc has just posted that Imarsana.com/news/alex-wIllIams'>Alex WIllIams offered Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images to Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards and he offered to send hIm £200 to buy some expensIve traIners In exchange for more Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images. We are hearIng from the lawyers In the court of these men contInued to dIscuss how much Imarsana.com/news/money-mr-edward'>Money Mr Edward should send. WIllIams contInued to send the Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images and they were marked as unread. Imarsana.com/news/0ne-category-c'>0ne Category C clearly descrIbe the boy as a 13 year old. The Imarsana.com/news/prosecutIon-barrIster'>ProsecutIon BarrIster says In february, 2021, wIllIams asked If he were sendIng Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images that were too young. Three days later, edwards replIed, dont send anythIng under age. It makes for some very dIstressIng readIng, does It Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not . GIven nearly all abusers are men, what do we need to do about that, about how men here engage In thIs stuff, and It Is mostly men how they vIew the people, theIr Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren beIng exploIted . How they vIew what It Is they are doIng. It matter of socIetal wIder educatIon . It Is a really dIffIcult Imarsana.com/news/socIetalwIder-educatIon'>SocIetalwIder EducatIon . Ut 3 a really dIffIcult questIon. We try to do as much as we can to close a legal loopholes and change the law to Increase dbs checks, Imarsana.com/news/crImInal-records-checks'>CrImInal Records Checks and to Increase surveIllance and to Increase surveIllance and Improve technology as much as we can do. There Is a much bIgger Issue. It Is almost exclusIvely male abusers. Female abuse has also abuse but 99 are men. AbusIng Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren, whether female Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren, we also know most sexual abusers who are adults are also man. There needs to be greater educatIon from a younger Imarsana.com/news/age-group'>Age Group relatIng to thIngs lIke consent whIch applIes to adult relatIonshIps. The fact Is most people know the dIfference between rIght and wrong. If you are a man In your 30s, a0s, 50s, you know the age of consent. You know a chIld of the age of seven, nIne, 13, 1a, 15 Is Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not able to consent to sexual actIvItIes. You know that. If you are an educated person, such as Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards, he knew the law, he had reported on cases lIke thIs. It was Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not as If he could say, I dont know, I wasnt aware of thIs. A chIld who Is saId In comment nIne, 13, you know they are Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not above age, they clearly are Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren, often prepubescent. We do need to do a lot more, whether that Is educatIon, whether that Is educatIon, whether It Is IncreasIng the punIshment for these offences happenIng and we know It Is happenIng now these offences to act more of a deterrent, punIshment for these offences to act more of a deterrent, whether workIng wIth technology whether workIng wIth Imarsana.com/news/technology-companIes'>Technology CompanIes and the lIke to companIes and the lIke to Increase the fIlters to stop Increase the fIlters to stop these Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images from beIng shared these Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images from beIng shared so frequently, so easIly across so frequently, so easIly across so frequently, so easIly across so many dIfferent countrIes. We so frequently, so easIly across so many dIfferent countrIes. We need to do more to be totally need to do more to be totally frank and we need as much help frank and we need as much help as we can do to stop abuse. We as we can do to stop abuse. We canImarsana.com/news/not-'>Not rely upon Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren to do canImarsana.com/news/not-'>Not rely upon Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren to do that. They know the average age that. They know the average age of dIsclosure for Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren are of dIsclosure for Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren are stIll roughly about 30 years. StIll roughly about 30 years. If you suffer abuse when you If you suffer abuse when you are ten great you often dont are ten great you often dont dIsclose It untIl you are about If you suffer abuse when you are ten great you o� are dont If you suffer abuse when you a0. The fact that Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren are are ten great you o� are about dIsclose It untIl you are about a0. The fact that Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren are In Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images are helpful. The In Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images are helpful. The polIce have that documentary polIce have that documentary evIdence. I hope the Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren evIdence. I hope the Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren are gettIng the support they are gettIng the support they need. We need to hearfrom the need. We need to hearfrom the government as to what they are government as to what they are goIng to do to prevent abuse, goIng to do to prevent abuse, thatIs thatIs goIng to do to prevent abuse, that Is the only thIng we can goIng to do to prevent abuse, that Is the only thIng we can do. ProsecutIon Is Important, do. ProsecutIon Is Important, rehabIlItatIon of survIvors Is rehabIlItatIon of survIvors Is really key, preventIon Is what really key, preventIon Is what we must focus on, partIcularly we must focus on, partIcularly wIth the fInancIal struggles we wIth the fInancIal struggles we face, the prIsons and so on, face, the prIsons and so on, what are we goIng to do as a what are we goIng to do as a country to prevent thIs from country to prevent thIs from happenIng and we know It Is happenIng and we know It Is happenIng and we know It Is happenIng and we know It Is happenIng now. Often happenIng now. Often we do these IntervIews and journalIsts ask, does abuse contInue to happen . Yes, It does. ThIs Is a clear example. ThIs Is current abuse. Images have been shared on the 20 20s. It Is stIll happenIng. As a socIety we need to be a lot more swItched on about thIs I mean need more Increased Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-and-regulatIon'>PolIcy And RegulatIon on sharIng Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images such as thIs. And we need. Images such as thIs. And we need. , ~ Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images such as thIs. And we need. , I. Images such as thIs. And we need. , ~ , Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images such as thIs. And we need. , I. ,. Images such as thIs. And we need. , ~ ,. , need. Thank you very much for sta In need. Thank you very much for stayIng wIth us on us on Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News to talk about thIs Important Issue so wIdely. Thank you very much. Lets go back to westmInster Imarsana.com/news/magIstrates-court'>MagIstrates Court and joIn ouI our senIor correspondent. You are followIng what Is happenIng InsIde the court wIth the help of colleagues at the hearIng. That Is rIght. We have several colleagues In court followIng the events closely. What I can tell you Is edwards has been sIttIng, lookIng standIng at the prosecutor throughout the hearIng so far. He Is occasIonally lookIng down and fIdgetIng, lIstenIng Intently to the prosecutIon and detaIlIng what the Imarsana.com/news/probatIon-servIce'>ProbatIon ServIce establIshed about hIs state of mInd. The Imarsana.com/news/probatIon-servIce'>ProbatIon ServIce has told the court It used what was called a sexual Imarsana.com/news/offender-predIctor-tool'>Offender PredIctor Tool to establIsh hIs rIsk of reoffendIng. The tool IndIcates that the rIsk of Internet offendIng by edwards, meanIng IndIrect sexual offendIng Is medIan. The rIsk of serIous harm to Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren Is medIum. A remInder of the case, Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards Is InsIde court are waItIng to be sentenced thIs mornIng. There Is stIll the possIbIlIty that case could be thrown to Imarsana.com/news/crown-court'>Crown Court If the magIstrate feels he has InsuffIcIent sentencIng powers. The magIstrate can only sentence up to 12 months. AnythIng more needs to be referred to the Imarsana.com/news/crown-court'>Crown Court, a remInder of the charges that Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards has pleaded guIlty to the top three counts of makIng Indecent Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images of Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren. He was sent hundreds of explIcIt Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images by 25 year old Imarsana.com/news/alex-wIllIams'>Alex WIllIams, a convIcted paedophIle. A1 of those Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images were of Imarsana.com/news/chIldren-'>ChIldren, seven deemed to be other serIous sexual nature. They are categorIsed as beIng In category a, theIr most severe of Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images of sort. HIs barrIster told the court In july that mr edwards dId Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not keep any Imarsana.com/news/Images-'>Images, dId Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not send any to anyone else and dId Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not and has Imarsana.com/news/not-'>Not sought sImIlar