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there's been more bad news for mr sunak. a tory donor has switched his support to reform uk. john hall, the former owner of newcastle united football club, said concern about the level of immigration had prompted his decision to back nigel farage. there is just a week to go before the general election, and all political parties are hitting the campaign trail in a final push to win over voters. last night, they clashed over their plans for tax, immigration and the welfare budget in the final leaders�* debate before polling day. our political correspondent harry farley reports. seven days to go, and it's a sprint to the finish line. leaders are on the road after sir keir starmer and rishi sunak clashed over tax, net zero and immigration. we're an island, why can't we easily close our borders? if keir starmer is your- prime minister, all those illegal migrants will be out on our streets. record numbers have come under this prime minister's watch, record numbers coming across the channel. 50,000 people have come since rishi sunak has been prime minister, 50,000 across the channel. labour want to return more people to countries they came from. rishi sunak mocked the idea. well, do you know where they come from? they come from iran, syria, afghanistan. when he says he will return people, will you sit down with the iranian ayatollahs and try to do a deal with the taliban? it's completely nonsensical, what you are saying. the prime minister was challenged on his language of "surrender" in what was a fiery debate. there's an important choice for people, and i don't want people to sleepwalk into something. i believe a labour government would be damaging for our country. i get people are frustrated with me and our party, but this is not a by—election, it is a choice about the future and that will have severe consequences for financial security. and for labour their plans on whether those arriving on small boats to stay. when people have no right to be here, they will be removed. where a claim succeeds, that is a claim that has succeeded. at the moment, there is 100% success in the sense that anybody here under this government is staying here for life, paid for by the taxpayer. that is not sustainable. this is message from the liberal democrats today... that message was on the nhs, but sir ed davey also criticised the decision to leave the european law enforcement agency. i cannot understand why the conservatives made a huge error, and it has undermined the ability of our country to stop the boats and also keep our country more secure. the snp leader was on bbc woman's hour. during this election campaign, i have concentrated on the fact there has been significant decisions taken in westminster that have had a negative effect on the lives of individuals in scotland around austerity, brexit and the cost of living. in durham, nigel farage announced that a tory donor had switched to reform uk. 0ne that a tory donor had switched to reform uk. one week left before you decide their futures. reform uk. one week left before you decide theirfutures. harry reform uk. one week left before you decide their futures. harry farley, bbc news. with me is our home affairs correspondent daniel sandford. a very interesting statement, yes, it confirmed there are now seven metropolitan police officers in this cloud of suspicion about having possibly bet on the election date, but at this stage only one of them has been interviewed under caution, this close protection officer who was interviewed on suspicion of misconduct in public office. he is currently on restricted duties, but i think the more interesting part of the statement is the metropolitan police saying they will take the lead in any cases which are not simply an allegation of cheating, somebody essentially betting on the election with inside information, but whether there are other offences involved, for example misconduct in public office, because until now they have only been looking at their own officers. misconduct in public office could apply to a police officer, but it could also apply to somebody who is an mp at the time they made the bet, or anyone else on they made the bet, or anyone else on the public payroll, civil servants, special advisers, anyone who is getting paid by the public, rather than conservative party headquarters could fall into this category. so it means the police may now potentially be looking at people who are on the lists of having made suspicious bets who are notjust police officers, it could be mps, for example. that does sound significant if the net becomes a slightly wider. in sound significant if the net becomes a slightly wider-— a slightly wider. in terms of how the police _ a slightly wider. in terms of how the police will _ a slightly wider. in terms of how the police will go _ a slightly wider. in terms of how the police will go about - a slightly wider. in terms of how the police will go about this, - a slightly wider. in terms of how i the police will go about this, what do you know?— the police will go about this, what do ou know? ., , do you know? there have been quite lurid suggestions _ do you know? there have been quite lurid suggestions of— do you know? there have been quite lurid suggestions of people - do you know? there have been quite lurid suggestions of people being - lurid suggestions of people being arrested. i think if there were public officials or civil servants who came into the police's ambit as it were, it is more likely it would be done in interview by arrangement, they would say, we need to talk to you about this, the concerns about this bet because you are paid out of the public payroll at the time, and normally there would be a meeting arranged with a solicitor. but it is quite serious, misconduct in public office is regarded as a serious offence, so anyone who starts falling under that cloud of suspicion is potentially in quite serious trouble. find suspicion is potentially in quite serious trouble.— serious trouble. and briefly, daniel, serious trouble. and briefly, daniel. no — serious trouble. and briefly, daniel, no particular- serious trouble. and briefly, i daniel, no particular indication serious trouble. and briefly, - daniel, no particular indication in terms of any timeline here, a week to go in this general election campaign, presumably no indication from the metropolitan police in terms of any sort of expectation when we might see a development? no—one has given strong indication, but i don't think it is going to move massively quickly. i think with an election looming, you might want to kind of somehow get it done and out of the way, but there is no way you could go through the full legal and court process, if it led to charges come in time for the election, in which case much case better to get it done right, so i don't think anything will happen at massive speed. but some people have been interviewed by the gambling commission, but i do not think we will suddenly get to lots and lots of announcements in a matter of days. of announcements in a matter of da s. ., ., .,~ , days. daniel, thanks for taking us throu~h days. daniel, thanks for taking us through all— days. daniel, thanks for taking us through all of— days. daniel, thanks for taking us through all of that. _ days. daniel, thanks for taking us through all of that. now - days. daniel, thanks for taking us through all of that. now let's - days. daniel, thanks for taking us through all of that. now let's get| through all of that. now let's get out on the campaign trail, damian grammaticas is travelling with the labour team, grammaticas is travelling with the labourteam, good grammaticas is travelling with the labour team, good to see you joining us on the programme, there it is, there is the bus, give me an idea, i know you have been talking to keir starmer and the rest of the team, in terms of their reflections on how last night went in their view. yes. last night went in their view. yes, matthew, last night went in their view. yes, matthew. as _ last night went in their view. yes, matthew. as you _ last night went in their view. yes, matthew, as you say, _ last night went in their view. yes, matthew, as you say, this - last night went in their view. yes, matthew, as you say, this is - last night went in their view. 1a: matthew, as you say, this is the big labour pass, and sir keir starmer is at an event in the west midlands, so we will bring you details of that after it is completed, that is the way the arrangements work here for security and logistical reasons. but talking about last night, yes, we were talking to him at the previous stop, at a college, and there he was saying that his feeling was, as he put it, that things had gone relatively well for him last night. now, the way he explains that is that he sees it that the conservatives are leading a very negative campaign, he said it is all about attacking and criticising, not offering a vision, whereas he said that he feels comfortable that he is going into the last week of this campaign is the change candidate, the candidate who wants to address issues with the health service, issues with the health service, issues with the health service, issues with education, universities, issues with education, universities, issues around getting the economy working. so that is how he wants to paint the picture. he did acknowledge that it took quite a lot of critical questions from the audience and critical criticism from the prime minister, but his view is thatis the prime minister, but his view is that is part of the rough and tumble of democratic debate, and he welcomes that. so that it is positive view, if you like, and how it went yesterday.— it went yesterday. damian grammaticas, _ it went yesterday. damian grammaticas, thanks - it went yesterday. damian grammaticas, thanks very j it went yesterday. damian - grammaticas, thanks very much, it went yesterday. damian _ grammaticas, thanks very much, thank you. plenty more on the election campaign in a moment or two, but let's turn to some important stories happening elsewhere. anti—government demonstrators have returned to the streets of the kenyan capital, nairobi, in defiance of warnings by the authorities. after a quiet start to thursday, police have in the past few hours been firing tear gas and, according to news agency afp, rubber bullets in an effort to disperse crowds. more than 20 people were killed by police during mass demonstrations on tuesday when part of the parliament building was ransacked. human rights groups say state agents have been abducting people linked to the protests. kenya's bar association has gone to court to challenge mr ruto's decision to deploy the military. the protesters have already forced president william ruto to abandon his deeply unpopular finance bill, which would have brought in new taxes. some protesters are calling for the president to step down, accusing his government of corruption. let me show you more of the pictures from a little earlier, the protests that we have seen, and the response from the authorities, because they are, as i described it, some of the tear gas, the rubber bullets that afp were reporting, just trying to dispose those crowds of people going onto the streets to make clear their anger at both the finance bill, which the president has gone back on, 22 people dying in protests back on, 22 people dying in protests back on tuesday, so let's get the very latest from our correspondents, mercy latest from our correspondents, merchuma, who is in nairobi. mercy, welcome to the programme, we were showing some of the pictures from earlier, tell me more about the protests we have seen. indeed, good evening from nairobi. i am in the central business district in nairobi, and we have not seen a lot of activity, there was some action a few hours ago, but now it is calm where i am. but we could hear tear gas canisters on the other side of the street, where pockets of protesters have been trying to advance into the city, trying to get towards parliament, but they have not been able to, so the numbers are not been able to, so the numbers are not as big as what we saw on tuesday of this week and previously. and the nature of the people who are now trying to be engaged by the police is not what we saw again on tuesday, these are people who have been trying to throw stones, throwing slings at the police, but police have been trying to keep them away. the plan was for these protesters to go on towards state house, towards parliament, but most of the young people on social media who have been organising the last few days have asked them not to go and instead go towards parliament, but so far they have not been able to advance in that direction. is have not been able to advance in that direction.— have not been able to advance in that direction. is there any current u date in that direction. is there any current update in terms _ that direction. is there any current update in terms of _ that direction. is there any current update in terms of casualty - that direction. is there any current i update in terms of casualty figures? so there is no current update, because even today we have seen casualties, there have been reports about people being hit by rubber bullets, there is an unconfirmed report of somebody hit by a live bullet, so we do not have new casualty numbers. human rights agencies have been collecting data from 35 counties which took part in the protest, but no confirmed figures yet, but safe to say that more than 20 people were killed and more than 20 people were killed and more than 20 people were killed and more than 100 injured on tuesday alone. about today, we cannot confirm it for sure, but there are a few injuries. aha, confirm it for sure, but there are a few injuries-— few injuries. a final thought, because some _ few injuries. a final thought, because some of _ few injuries. a final thought, because some of the - few injuries. a final thought, because some of the crowds| few injuries. a final thought, - because some of the crowds have few injuries. a final thought, _ because some of the crowds have been calling for the president to stand down, that is not going to happen, but what has been the response from the president?— the president? yes, if you look on social media. _ the president? yes, if you look on social media, especially _ the president? yes, if you look on social media, especially on - the president? yes, if you look on social media, especially on x, - the president? yes, if you look on social media, especially on x, the | social media, especially on x, the hashtag ruto must go is trending, but amidst all that, what they really want to see exchange and accountability in how the president conducts his governance, how he is running this country and how his members of parliament are conducting their business at the constituency level. we have seen a lot of corruption and wastage of public funds. that is what they want to see changed. there has been a rallying call for people to call back the members of parliament, but it may be a long road, because at the moment we do not have a functioning electoral commission, but the calls that are really loud right now are for change and accountability and proper usage of the taxes that the government is collecting at this point. government is collecting at this oint. ~ ~ , government is collecting at this oint. ~ . government is collecting at this oint. ., ., government is collecting at this oint. ~ ., ., ., point. mercy juma, thanks for the very latest. _ point. mercy juma, thanks for the very latest, thank— point. mercy juma, thanks for the very latest, thank you. _ stretched to breaking news, it is coming to us from the uk health and security agency, news that one person in england has died are linked to the ongoing e. coli outbreak, that has come from the uk health security agency in the last few minutes, so confirmation of the first death. we will get more on that in the next few minutes, but as i say, the uk health security agency confirming that one person in england has died linked to the ongoing e. coli outbreak, that news hasjust ongoing e. coli outbreak, that news has just coming to us, so we will bring you more in the next few minutes. the mother of jay slater says she is not loosing hope that she will find her son, who disappeared after attending a music festival more than week ago. more than £36,000 has been donated to a charity page, and debbie duncan says the money will be used to support the mountain rescue teams who are searching for the 19—year—old. 0ur correspondent nick garnett is in tenerife. bring us right up to date. 0k, bring us right up to date. ok, so debbie duncan _ bring us right up to date. ok, so debbie duncan issued _ bring us right up to date. ok, so debbie duncan issued a - bring us right up to date. ok, so i debbie duncan issued a statement this morning on the fundraising page that has been launched to talk about how they are feeling, she said that no—one will believe just how difficult things are for her. she has been out now for over a week while the search has been going on, and other members of the family need to come to support her, so she's going to use of the £30,000 that has been raised to pay for that. she is also using money to help support the mountain rescue effort in the area. this has been a huge police and search operation, there have been police, fire teams working here, going through the really rough terrain, you know, it is volcanic island, and the soil and the walking is really tough, and this is an area thatis is really tough, and this is an area that is for people with walking boots and that equipment, not boys in shorts and t—shirts and trainers. and that is what he was wearing when he was last seen. so she says she is using some of the money to help support the mountain rescue. today we have been driving around the area, we have seen very limited signs of police activity, police dogs were brought over from madrid and were searching a ravine earlier on this morning, but they have now left that area. the helicopter has been over had but we have not seen that for a couple of hours either. so we do not know where the police operation is at the moment, this is the 11th day of it, and there are so many times they can search the same area. they have been widening the search, but it is difficult for them to find anything new as they go along. to find anything new as they go alonu. . ., to find anything new as they go alonu. w' ., ., to find anything new as they go alonu. x' . ,, ., along. nick, we were talking that the mother— along. nick, we were talking that the mother of _ along. nick, we were talking that the mother of jay _ along. nick, we were talking that the mother of jay slater's - along. nick, we were talking that the mother of jay slater's best i the mother of jay slater's best friend telling the bbc that a deluge of online abuse about the missing teenager has simply added to that living nightmare, that is the quote she used. ., living nightmare, that is the quote she used. . .,. living nightmare, that is the quote she used. . .. ., ., , she used. yeah, rachel hargreaves, her son itrad — she used. yeah, rachel hargreaves, her son brad was _ she used. yeah, rachel hargreaves, her son brad was one _ she used. yeah, rachel hargreaves, her son brad was one of _ she used. yeah, rachel hargreaves, her son brad was one of the - she used. yeah, rachel hargreaves, her son brad was one of the three i her son brad was one of the three people who came out, jay, his friend lucy and brad, and they came from lancashire. she said that brad is really suffering at the moment, he has not coped with the events that are going on. they say they're going to stay in tenerife for as long as it takes to help support jay's mother. she says many genuine... this is the worrying thing, she says many genuine offers of help and support have been missed because of the deluge of abuse and speculation that has been going on in private messages or in messages to her, there have been attempts to try and hack e—mail accounts, instagram accounts, and that has really, really affected their ability to stay on top of things. they are missing these offers of help and asking for it to stop. we are living the worst nightmare, she says, you can live, the trolling does not help, i am just here to support jdy's help, i am just here to support jay's mother, and the family are working closely with the spanish authorities, they are completely on board with the way that the search is operating at the moment. 0bviously, every parent would like more, but they realise the constraints that are going on, and also the fact that it's got to be done methodically. she says as well, mrs duncan, who was m3�*s mother, she said that she thanked everyone for the donations, these are dark times, she said, and she said that they will continue to stay in tenerife for as long as it takes and will use of the money that has been raised to help pay for that and look after the day—to—day expenses of being here and travelling around area. hick day-to-day expenses of being here and travelling around area.- and travelling around area. nick in tenerife, thanks _ and travelling around area. nick in tenerife, thanks very _ and travelling around area. nick in tenerife, thanks very much - and travelling around area. nick in tenerife, thanks very much for - and travelling around area. nick in l tenerife, thanks very much for that, thank you. with the dust settling from last night's fiesty, and final, tv prime ministerial debate, the labour and conservative campaign teams will both be hoping it's moved the dial in their man's favour and that voters will have registered the messages they wanted to get accross. so will any of this be reflected in the opinion polls, as we approach the final days of campaigning? with me is scarlett maguire, director of the polling company jl partners. what have you found on your polling? we did a rapid response of outer panel, we got voters to type in their responses to clips from the debate, and we found pretty much a score draw between keir starmer and rishi sunak, if anything in keir starmer�*s favour come up with people conceding that he might be dull but he seems honest and likeable, whereas we found the criticisms of rishi sunak to include that he is smarmy, out of touch and even rubbish. there was one voter, and this is something we picked up across the board, this sense... there was one person in the audience who stood up and said, are you two the best we have got? that was quite pervasive, so one man wrote about keir starmer, he cannot make up his mind about anything, he cannot run a bath, let alone the country. there was quite a sense of being downbeat about the options out there. i will about the options out there. i will come back _ about the options out there. i will come back to _ about the options out there. i will come back to the _ about the options out there. i will come back to the issues - about the options out there. i will come back to the issues of - about the options out there. i will come back to the issues of trust, because that creeps into that territory, but did you ask the question, because a lot of people are trying to work out who did better, that is obvious, the performance, but the key question about whether it's changed anybody�*s minds? trio. about whether it's changed anybody's minds? ., ., , , minds? no, the definitive answer is no, and it minds? no, the definitive answer is no. and it was— minds? no, the definitive answer is no, and it was always _ minds? no, the definitive answer is no, and it was always going - minds? no, the definitive answer is no, and it was always going to - minds? no, the definitive answer is no, and it was always going to be . no, and it was always going to be that it was going to be quite unlikely to. it would have taken keir starmer completely falling apart on the stage to have made a proper impact in the campaign. as it is, a score draw, which is what some snap polls found, like our panel, sort of slightly in keir starmer�*s favour, nowhere near enough to move the dial. both of the candidates, neither of their positions has really changed, but the fact is that keir starmer is 20 points ahead in voting intentions and holds similar leads on who would make the best prime minister, last night did not change that. this prime minister, last night did not change that-— change that. this was a head-to-head, - change that. this was a head-to-head, just - change that. this was a head-to-head, just as l change that. this was a - head-to-head, just as two, but change that. this was a _ head-to-head, just as two, but rishi head—to—head, just as two, but rishi sunak is facing a double threat, labour and everything that we saw yesterday, aimed at labour positions, but they are haemorrhaging support to reform uk as well, and that is a crucial flank that we didn't hear in that hour and a quarter at all, did we? trio. that we didn't hear in that hour and a quarter at all, did we?— a quarter at all, did we? no, and rishi sunak, _ a quarter at all, did we? no, and rishi sunak, apart _ a quarter at all, did we? no, and rishi sunak, apart from - a quarter at all, did we? no, and rishi sunak, apart from the - a quarter at all, did we? no, and - rishi sunak, apart from the comments that nigel farage made about ukraine, has been reluctant to tackle the threat from the right head on. partly because it is difficult for him to defend his record to those voters, because if you try to talk about the things they care about, like the immigration or the nhs, there was voters do not think he has done a very good job, so it is difficult for him to tackle it. but you are right that at the moment they are losing up to one in four voters to reform macro, more than they are currently losing to labour. i reform macro, more than they are currently losing to labour.- currently losing to labour. i said i would come _ currently losing to labour. i said i would come back— currently losing to labour. i said i would come back to _ currently losing to labour. i said i would come back to trust - currently losing to labour. i said i would come back to trust and - currently losing to labour. i said i i would come back to trust and people wanting trust to be restored. in terms of what they said about how you go about doing that, with a clear about that? they know what the problem is in their view, do they know what the answer is? this panel we did with 38 _ know what the answer is? this panel we did with 38 agrees _ know what the answer is? this panel we did with 38 agrees that _ know what the answer is? this panel we did with 38 agrees that they i we did with 38 agrees that they wanted honesty, not surprising, and they wanted politicians to stick to their word and deliver what they promised. there was a real sense that they have heard lots and lots from politicians over the years but nothing has come of it and that is what they want to change. coloured great to talk to you again, thanks very much, i'm sure we will talk again in the next few days. this time next week, people will be heading to polling stations to cast their votes in the general election. the bbc is travelling around the country to listen to the issues that matter to you — the voter. this afternoon we're in finchley and golders green constituency. it is a marginal seat that has been identified as a labour target. we can go now live to samantha simmonds who is in finchley for us. matthew, thank you, yes, hi, iam here in leafy north london, the key marginal seat of finchley and golders green, famous for being margaret thatcher's seat back in the day. labourtook margaret thatcher's seat back in the day. labour took the seat back in 1997, the tories took it back in 2010. it has the largestjewish population of any constituency in the uk at 21%, and in the 2019 election, the conservatives held onto it, but they pushed labour back into third place at the height of thejeremy into third place at the height of the jeremy corbyn into third place at the height of thejeremy corbyn labour anti—semitism controversy. we can talk to david floyd, who is the editor of the barnet post, and tony travers, a professor of public policy at the lse. david, you have got a copy of your latest edition of the barnet post, it shows the key national politicians hitting the campaign trail here, why? this national politicians hitting the campaign trail here, why? as you hinted, there _ campaign trail here, why? as you hinted, there was _ campaign trail here, why? as you hinted, there was a _ campaign trail here, why? as you hinted, there was a lot _ campaign trail here, why? as you hinted, there was a lot around i campaign trail here, why? as you i hinted, there was a lot around cobra and anti—semitism last time, but a more conventionalfight and anti—semitism last time, but a more conventional fight this time around. —— around corbyn. the key issues of public services, crime, police not coming when you have a robbery, waiting lists at the local hospitals being very high, and also many local people affected by the cost of living crisis and increased demand at local foodbanks, those are theissues demand at local foodbanks, those are the issues that are quite a big thing in the area as we approach this election.— thing in the area as we approach this election. tony, we are in the borou:h this election. tony, we are in the borough of _ this election. tony, we are in the borough of barnet, _ this election. tony, we are in the borough of barnet, three - this election. tony, we are in the borough of barnet, three key i borough of barnet, three key marginal seats here.- borough of barnet, three key marginal seats here. yes, the outer art of marginal seats here. yes, the outer part of london _ marginal seats here. yes, the outer part of london has _ marginal seats here. yes, the outer part of london has a _ marginal seats here. yes, the outer part of london has a number- marginal seats here. yes, the outer part of london has a number of- part of london has a number of marginal— part of london has a number of marginal constituencies. this is a three-way— marginal constituencies. this is a three—way marginal, as you have been discussing. _ three—way marginal, as you have been discussing, so those are the kind of constituencies which labour will desperately want to win, they have already _ desperately want to win, they have already got quite a large tally, and the conservatives, if they're going to hold _ the conservatives, if they're going to hold onto any seat in london, it will he _ to hold onto any seat in london, it will he in _ to hold onto any seat in london, it will be in the outer boroughs, it is a very— will be in the outer boroughs, it is a very different city compared with the downtown central part.- the downtown central part. yeah, david, as i _ the downtown central part. yeah, david, as i said, _ the downtown central part. yeah, david, as i said, the _ the downtown central part. yeah, david, as i said, the largest- the downtown central part. yeah, | david, as i said, the largest jewish david, as i said, the largestjewish population of any constituency in the country, 21%, 0.5% of thejewish people across the country, so what part will not play, will they play in the election here?— part will not play, will they play in the election here? they will play a ve bi in the election here? they will play a very big part. _ in the election here? they will play a very big part. and _ in the election here? they will play a very big part, and the _ in the election here? they will play a very big part, and the change i in the election here? they will play| a very big part, and the change this time around is that in 2019, jewish people have a diverse range of views on politics, but the vast majority ofjewish people were turned off by jeremy corbyn, so if you were a centre—left vote in finchley and golders green in 2019, you may have voted for luciana berger, running for the liberal democrats, rather than the labour candidate. this time around, following the work that keir starmer has done to tackle anti—semitism, i think it is more likely that centre—leftjewish voters will go back to labour, so labour has a much stronger chance of taking the seat from the conservatives for that reason. tony, what art conservatives for that reason. tony, what part do — conservatives for that reason. tony, what part do you _ conservatives for that reason. tony, what part do you think— conservatives for that reason. tony, what part do you think tribalism i what part do you think tribalism will play in this election? will people vote with parties they have always voted with before? i people vote with parties they have always voted with before ?- always voted with before? i think less than ever _ always voted with before? i think less than ever before, _ always voted with before? i think less than ever before, it - always voted with before? i think less than ever before, it is i always voted with before? i think less than ever before, it is worth | less than ever before, it is worth remembering that back in the 1950s, 97% of— remembering that back in the 1950s, 97% of people voted labour or conservative in the same way that their— conservative in the same way that their parents did, but people are much _ their parents did, but people are much more likely to move their vote, notiusl_ much more likely to move their vote, notjust between much more likely to move their vote, not just between elections much more likely to move their vote, notjust between elections but even within_ notjust between elections but even within campaigns, so it is all to play— within campaigns, so it is all to play for— within campaigns, so it is all to play for for— within campaigns, so it is all to play for for the parties, and is constituency absolutely makes that point, _ constituency absolutely makes that point, both last time and potentially this time. find point, both last time and potentially this time. point, both last time and otentiall this time. �* potentially this time. and where we have a particularly _ potentially this time. and where we have a particularly young _ potentially this time. and where we have a particularly young section i potentially this time. and where we have a particularly young section of| have a particularly young section of the population here. it is have a particularly young section of the population here.— the population here. it is much ounuer the population here. it is much younger on _ the population here. it is much younger on average _ the population here. it is much younger on average than i the population here. it is much younger on average than the l the population here. it is much i younger on average than the rest of the country. — younger on average than the rest of the country, it is also significantly more overseas born, more _ significantly more overseas born, more diverse ethnically, so there are many— more diverse ethnically, so there are many ways it is different from other— are many ways it is different from other city— are many ways it is different from other city centres, but very different _ other city centres, but very different to other regions of the country. — different to other regions of the country, and that does affect the way people vote, generally younger people _ way people vote, generally younger people vote labour more than older people. _ people vote labour more than older pecule. so— people vote labour more than older people, so that is why the conservatives will be targeting their— conservatives will be targeting their message at their older vote. what _ their message at their older vote. what about the immigrant population here? that is quite large as well, isn't it? ~ ., here? that is quite large as well, isn't it? ~ . , here? that is quite large as well, isn't it? . . , , ., , isn't it? what part will they play? it is an extremely _ isn't it? what part will they play? it is an extremely diverse - isn't it? what part will they play? | it is an extremely diverse borough and has been becoming more diverse, you know, over the recent years, so it is going to play a big part. i think many immigrant communities are very labour supporting, but there is a range, and some are less so, so that will vary depending on the particular groups, but i think labour is going to have a strong chance in all three seats here. iuntimely chance in all three seats here. when we look at inner _ chance in all three seats here. when we look at inner and _ chance in all three seats here. when we look at inner and outer _ chance in all three seats here. when we look at inner and outer london, lots of posters are saying that the greatest shift we might see is going to be in outer london. yes. greatest shift we might see is going to be in outer london. yes, because in a sense — to be in outer london. yes, because in a sense the _ to be in outer london. yes, because in a sense the conservatives - to be in outer london. yes, because in a sense the conservatives have i in a sense the conservatives have far more — in a sense the conservatives have far more seeds to lose in outer london. — far more seeds to lose in outer london, and there are more seats in outer— london, and there are more seats in outer london, it is much bingo, so yes, _ outer london, it is much bingo, so yes, and _ outer london, it is much bingo, so yes, and if— outer london, it is much bingo, so yes, and if the conservatives, some of the _ yes, and if the conservatives, some of the polls— yes, and if the conservatives, some of the polls have suggested, are going _ of the polls have suggested, are going to — of the polls have suggested, are going to do very badly in london, if they hold _ going to do very badly in london, if they hold onto seats, it will be on they hold onto seats, it will be on the far— they hold onto seats, it will be on the far east — they hold onto seats, it will be on the far east of the city, possibly the far east of the city, possibly the far— the far east of the city, possibly the far west, just going back to the previous— the far west, just going back to the previous point there are boroughs where _ previous point there are boroughs where you — previous point there are boroughs where you have got groups of voters, hindus _ where you have got groups of voters, hindus in_ where you have got groups of voters, hindus in particular, who are moving towards _ hindus in particular, who are moving towards the — hindus in particular, who are moving towards the conservatives over time, so some _ towards the conservatives overtime, so some of— towards the conservatives over time, so some of the predictions about the outer— so some of the predictions about the outer boroughs have to be seen with a degree _ outer boroughs have to be seen with a degree of— outer boroughs have to be seen with a degree of care, because of that kind of— a degree of care, because of that kind of phenomenon.— a degree of care, because of that kind of phenomenon. fantastic to hear from you _ kind of phenomenon. fantastic to hear from you both, _ kind of phenomenon. fantastic to hear from you both, thank - kind of phenomenon. fantastic to hear from you both, thank you i kind of phenomenon. fantastic to i hear from you both, thank you very much, tony and david. you can see a full list of all of the candidates standing for the finchley and golders green constituency on your screen now. we will be back with plenty more throughout the afternoon. for me, it is back to matthew in the studio. let's continue with the election campaign, of course that story that is dominated the last two weeks, the gambling scandal. just the very latest coming from the prime minister, he has insisted it would not be right for him to say any more about the ongoing investigation into alleged gambling on the date of the election. he hasjust been alleged gambling on the date of the election. he has just been speaking in the last while, he was asked about the news that the met police could potentially investigate anybody accused of insider information. rishi sunak repeating that he was furious when he learned of the allegations, he said that anybody who had broken the rules should face the full force of the law, whether the gambling commission or the police, they would be booted out of the conservative party. he was asked in the last while if he told the conservative candidate, craig williams, the date of the election before mr williams placed that bet that he has admitted placing. he described it as a flutter. let's hear that exchange with rishi sunak, being asked specifically about that.- specifically about that. where an one specifically about that. where anyone has — specifically about that. where anyone has broken _ specifically about that. where anyone has broken the - specifically about that. where anyone has broken the rules i specifically about that. where i anyone has broken the rules they should face the full consequences of the law, whether that is the gambling commission or the police, and i will also ensure they are booted out of the conservative party. booted out of the conservative pa . , , ., ., booted out of the conservative party. did you tell craig williams, a man that _ party. did you tell craig williams, a man that you — party. did you tell craig williams, a man that you said _ party. did you tell craig williams, a man that you said you _ party. did you tell craig williams, a man that you said you were i party. did you tell craig williams, | a man that you said you were with almost every minute of every day, the date of the election before you announced it? i the date of the election before you announced it?— announced it? i have been clear about this, _ announced it? i have been clear about this. i _ announced it? i have been clear about this, i am _ announced it? i have been clear about this, i am curious - announced it? i have been clear about this, i am curious to i announced it? i have been clear| about this, i am curious to learn about this, i am curious to learn about these allegations. we have initiated internal inquiries of our own because i do not have access to the gambling commission detail. we have suspended candidates, was there are ongoing independent investigations, the police also being involved, it isjust investigations, the police also being involved, it is just not right for me to say anything more about that. but if anyone has broken the rules, of course they should face the full consequences of the law and i will ensure they are booted out of the party. i will ensure they are booted out of the -a . ., �* ., , the party. you didn't answer the ruestion the party. you didn't answer the question of— the party. you didn't answer the question of whether _ the party. you didn't answer the question of whether or - the party. you didn't answer the question of whether or not i the party. you didn't answer the question of whether or not you i the party. you didn't answer the i question of whether or not you told craig williams, in any investigation you can answer this question. trio. you can answer this question. no, where there _ you can answer this question. no, where there are _ you can answer this question. mfr, where there are ongoing independent investigations it is not right if they are compromised in any way, shape orform, they they are compromised in any way, shape or form, they are they are compromised in any way, shape orform, they are rightly confidential. and it is important that they stay that way, and that is the right thing to do, and you know that. we have done... you the right thing to do, and you know that. we have done. . ._ the right thing to do, and you know that. we have done... you can only re'udice that. we have done... you can only prejudice a — that. we have done... you can only prejudice a jury. — that. we have done... you can only prejudice a jury, that _ that. we have done... you can only prejudice a jury, that is _ that. we have done... you can only prejudice a jury, that is not - that. we have done... you can only prejudice a jury, that is not true, i prejudice a jury, that is not true, you can only prejudice a jury trial, you can only prejudice a jury trial, you know the answer to the question whether or not you told craig williams, yes or no. bud whether or not you told craig williams, yes or no.- whether or not you told craig williams, yes or no. and as a result of those, suspended _ williams, yes or no. and as a result of those, suspended candidates. i i of those, suspended candidates. i have been clear that anyone who has broken the rules should face the full consequences of the law, i will ensure they are booted out of the party and whilst there are ongoing independent investigations, including the police, it is important that those matters are allowed to proceed properly. rishi sunak speaking — allowed to proceed properly. rishi sunak speaking in _ allowed to proceed properly. rishi sunak speaking in the last little while, just a reminder on the story, craig williams was suspended by the conservatives following news he is under investigation by the gambling commission over a bed he placed on the timing of the election. he says he committed an error ofjudgment, and has apologised to voters. more on that story coming up in the next little while. let's turn to the election, this time out of northern ireland. politicians from ireland five political parties will face a debate. in the 2019 westminster election, the democratic unionist party won the most seats in northern ireland with eight, but now has seven after former party leader sirjeffrey donaldson was suspended from the party. sinn fein came second with seven, while the social democratic and labour party secured two and the alliance party one. some constituencies will be more competitive than others. the election being held during northern ireland's school summer holidays and parading season could affect turnout. constituency boundary changes may also have an impact. the debate will be broadcast on bbc one northern ireland, bbc iplayer and the news channel at 9pm tonight. in the lead up to that event and to discuss the campaign in northern ireland so far, i'm joined now by political commentator sarah creighton, and columnist at the belfast telegraph, allison morris. thanks to both of you for being with us. why don't you set the scene for us, sarah what are you anticipating in this debate a little bit later? i in this debate a little bit later? i think a huge part of the debate will probably focus on local issues, i would imagine it will focus on things like the national health service, a massive decline in at northern ireland and the waiting lists here are worse than they are in england. they will also talk about the cost of living and the institutions and generally the impact that local mps can have in westminster, and obviously,... there is usually a debate around... there is usually a debate around... there is no chance of them taking their seats. i imagine there will be some discussion among unionist representatives, it is obviously still an issue with the unionism but i don't think that would be an issue for the other parties.— for the other parties. sarah is riaht, for the other parties. sarah is right. despite _ for the other parties. sarah is right, despite the _ for the other parties. sarah is right, despite the fact - for the other parties. sarah is right, despite the fact that i for the other parties. sarah is i right, despite the fact that this is a westminster election and they are all issues _ a westminster election and they are all issues which are devolved, we are still— all issues which are devolved, we are still here ink that people on the doors, _ are still here ink that people on the doors, the reaction from voters is that— the doors, the reaction from voters is that they— the doors, the reaction from voters is that they want to speak about health. — is that they want to speak about health, about professions, about those _ health, about professions, about those sort — health, about professions, about those sort of bread and butter issues — those sort of bread and butter issues. for northern ireland there has been — issues. for northern ireland there has been progress, we are not speaking — has been progress, we are not speaking about the constitutional issue. _ speaking about the constitutional issue, about the border. for the largest— issue, about the border. for the largest union, they will really hope that the _ largest union, they will really hope that the framework and the breadth of debate _ that the framework and the breadth of debate has slid off the agenda because — of debate has slid off the agenda because they are facing a challenge fromm _ because they are facing a challenge from... who have dried up with reform — from... who have dried up with reform uk, _ from... who have dried up with reform uk, they are challenging some of those _ reform uk, they are challenging some of those really key constituencies not because they think they make win seats but— not because they think they make win seats but because they think it may -ive seats but because they think it may give the _ seats but because they think it may give the du p a bloodied nose because — give the du p a bloodied nose because they perceive them to have betrayed _ because they perceive them to have betrayed them over that seat border framework. i think they will be bored — framework. i think they will be bored to— framework. i think they will be bored to hear that people are speaking less about the seat border and break— speaking less about the seat border and break that and more about the bread—and—butter. but when you think about— bread—and—butter. but when you think about it _ bread—and—butter. but when you think about it it— bread—and—butter. but when you think about it it means people are actually _ about it it means people are actually voting on the performance of the _ actually voting on the performance of the devolved assembly rather than voting _ of the devolved assembly rather than voting on— of the devolved assembly rather than voting on anything they think westminster may... voting on anything they think westminster may. . .- voting on anything they think westminster may... allison, one . uick westminster may... allison, one quick thought — westminster may... allison, one quick thought on _ westminster may... allison, one quick thought on what _ westminster may... allison, one quick thought on what you i westminster may... allison, one | quick thought on what you already touched on, the assembly is only just back up and running. are voters likely to punish any of the parties for the very fact that for years it was there not sitting, not addressing any of those issues that you just run through? yes. addressing any of those issues that you just run through?— addressing any of those issues that you just run through? you 'ust run through? yes, they have not you just run through? yes, they have not been able — you just run through? yes, they have not been able to _ you just run through? yes, they have not been able to resolve _ you just run through? yes, they have not been able to resolve many i you just run through? yes, they have not been able to resolve many of i not been able to resolve many of those _ not been able to resolve many of thoseissues not been able to resolve many of those issues because it is such early— those issues because it is such early days, so clearly there is a chance — early days, so clearly there is a chance that they might be punished. and then _ chance that they might be punished. and then they will talk about turn out as— and then they will talk about turn out as well, the holidays the school holiday— out as well, the holidays the school holiday start this week in northern ireland so a lot of people will be off on— ireland so a lot of people will be off on holiday. the postal vote, the voter— off on holiday. the postal vote, the voter turnout will be down and that could _ voter turnout will be down and that could damage the two big parties as well. could damage the two big parties as welt it— could damage the two big parties as well. it could be difficult to get their— well. it could be difficult to get their vote out in a westminster election. — their vote out in a westminster election, the voters do not really feel any— election, the voters do not really feel any affiliation towards westminster so i think the turnout might— westminster so i think the turnout might be _ westminster so i think the turnout might be one of the stories of the selection — might be one of the stories of the selection. and then we have six marginal— selection. and then we have six marginal seats which include... and that is— marginal seats which include... and that is obviously what people like myself _ that is obviously what people like myself will be watching. a that is obviously what people like myself will be watching.- myself will be watching. a quick thou . ht myself will be watching. a quick thought from — myself will be watching. a quick thought from both _ myself will be watching. a quick thought from both of _ myself will be watching. a quick thought from both of you, i myself will be watching. a quick thought from both of you, in i thought from both of you, in terms of when we look at what is happening here in england, clearly the political sands are moving. how fluid is it where you are?- political sands are moving. how fluid is it where you are? well, i would say _ fluid is it where you are? well, i would say that _ fluid is it where you are? well, i would say that in _ fluid is it where you are? well, i would say that in terms - fluid is it where you are? well, i would say that in terms of- fluid is it where you are? well, i i would say that in terms of northern ireland, a lot of the parties are really watching to see what happens at westminster. 0ur budget is in such deficit, there is no money to go around and they are hoping that labour are going to save them and come along with magic money and start dishing out money for projects. there is a lot of discussion here about what is happening in the bigger political picture in terms of what that may mean for northern ireland. and even the unionists would be so close to the unionists would be so close to the tory party, i think that they are now secretly hoping that labour it might come along and get a better... i it might come along and get a better... ., . better... i would agree with allison, better. .. i would agree with allison. i — better... i would agree with allison, i do _ better... i would agree with allison, i do think _ better... i would agree with allison, i do think the i better... i would agree with i allison, i do think the budget better... i would agree with - allison, i do think the budget issue over here _ allison, i do think the budget issue over here is — allison, i do think the budget issue over here is quite cute. i think there — over here is quite cute. i think there will— over here is quite cute. i think there will be some hope really that labour— there will be some hope really that labour will come and make the situation — labour will come and make the situation better, i think people are quite _ situation better, i think people are quite sceptical that that is going to happen. another issue is the legacy— to happen. another issue is the legacy act, _ to happen. another issue is the legacy act, which the tories implemented which as a reminder, has obviously— implemented which as a reminder, has obviously stopped all prosecutions and inquests into... that issue is still very— and inquests into... that issue is still very much alive one, all the parties — still very much alive one, all the parties in — still very much alive one, all the parties in northern ireland, labour have proposed to repeal that act. everybody — have proposed to repeal that act. everybody is waiting to see whether it labour— everybody is waiting to see whether it labour will actually go ahead with that _ it labour will actually go ahead with that. a it labour will actually go ahead with that. �* . ., it labour will actually go ahead with that. �* . ~ ., ., , it labour will actually go ahead with that. �* ., ., , ., with that. a quick final thoughts to both of you. _ with that. a quick final thoughts to both of you. in _ with that. a quick final thoughts to both of you, in terms _ with that. a quick final thoughts to both of you, in terms of _ with that. a quick final thoughts to both of you, in terms of things i with that. a quick final thoughts to j both of you, in terms of things like brexit, orat both of you, in terms of things like brexit, or at united island, you touched on it a little earlier, sinn fein not taking their seats as always in westminster... how are thoseissues always in westminster... how are those issues playing and are you seeing any sort of difference this time around in the sorts of ways people vote, traditionally people quite often there in northern ireland always voted the same way the whole of their lives. i certainly think that people come up brexit obviously is still an issue for people over here, i think the fact that the assembly is back, the country does seem to be moving on a bit, buti country does seem to be moving on a bit, but i do think allegiances have very much switched because of bragg said, particularly with... some people are no longer voting... the issue of the framework, that tension thatis issue of the framework, that tension that is often alluded to within unionism, i don't think that will be a big motivation for voters. for nationalist _ a big motivation for voters. for nationalist voter the constitutional issue _ nationalist voter the constitutional issue is— nationalist voter the constitutional issue is a — nationalist voter the constitutional issue is a huge story, and they are looking _ issue is a huge story, and they are looking forward to... and so, what we are _ looking forward to... and so, what we are hearing is a change in language _ we are hearing is a change in language from nationalists, saying vote for— language from nationalists, saying vote for progressive candidates, and by that _ vote for progressive candidates, and by that they mean people who are completely opposed to constitutional change _ completely opposed to constitutional change because they think that the more _ change because they think that the more mps — change because they think that the more mps that are in westminster from _ more mps that are in westminster from northern ireland, who are not totally— from northern ireland, who are not totally wedded to the union with the united _ totally wedded to the union with the united kingdom, these might be down the line _ united kingdom, these might be down the line trying to persuade... we have to the line trying to persuade... have to leave the line trying to persuade... - have to leave it there, enjoy the debate a little later in the day. thank you both forjoining us here on the bbc news. let's speak to alyn smith, the snp's spokesperson on europe and eu accession. thank you forjoining us here on bbc news. bridget phillipson for labour it was really clear this morning, there will be no return to the single market, no return to the customs union, no freedom of movement. you think the opposite, don't you? taste movement. you think the opposite, don't ou? ~ . ., , movement. you think the opposite, don't ou? . ., , ., ., don't you? we certainly do, and we have louic don't you? we certainly do, and we have logic and _ don't you? we certainly do, and we have logic and right _ don't you? we certainly do, and we have logic and right and _ don't you? we certainly do, and we have logic and right and good i don't you? we certainly do, and we| have logic and right and good sense on our side, the uk is £140 billion poor by leaving the eu in the way that we did. this is a stone that is going to be in the uk economy going forward. labour can talk a good game about growing the economy and somehow finding lots of money for lots of sources, but unless we actually make serious steps towards the customs union, the single market, the eu, we are not going to grow the economy and the way that we need not meet the skills shortages and labour shortages we have unless we get back into freedom of movement. the snp wants to see an independent scotland back in the eu, and in a westminster context we will argue for the uk to have as close and deep functioning a relationship with the eu as possible.— with the eu as possible. there are two separate _ with the eu as possible. there are two separate things _ with the eu as possible. there are two separate things in _ with the eu as possible. there are two separate things in that - with the eu as possible. there arej two separate things in that second part, labour perhaps would agree with you. to go back to the fundamental point you made about rejoining the customs union single you cannot do that unilaterally. what has to happen first is that scotland has to become independent. that is a considerable distance away, potentially. and you have the whole process of rejoining the eu, which also takes more time. all of thoseissues which also takes more time. all of those issues that voters there in scotland are talking about, those everyday issues, none of what you have just said is everyday issues, none of what you havejust said is remotely everyday issues, none of what you have just said is remotely possible in the immediate future. it is going to be entirely _ in the immediate future. it is going to be entirely impossible _ in the immediate future. it is going to be entirely impossible if - to be entirely impossible if you vote labour because they have said they do not even want to articulate that proposition.— that proposition. sorry to cross ou, that proposition. sorry to cross you. give _ that proposition. sorry to cross you. give me — that proposition. sorry to cross you, give me the _ that proposition. sorry to cross you, give me the earliest i that proposition. sorry to cross i you, give me the earliest possible date this could happen in terms of rejoining the eu.— rejoining the eu. realistically. we need to win _ rejoining the eu. realistically. we need to win the _ rejoining the eu. realistically. we need to win the argument - rejoining the eu. realistically. we need to win the argument at i need to win the argument at westminster, and that is a moving feast, i think labour needs to be more honest than they are being about the limits on growth, on how the uk economy can grow if we do not get back into the single market. even today there is business people being much more vocalfinally even today there is business people being much more vocal finally about the fact that this is one hand tied behind our back, this is... the you are answering _ behind our back, this is... the you are answering a _ behind our back, this is... the you are answering a different - behind our back, this is... the you are answering a different question | are answering a different question to the one i asked, when is the earliest that scotland could be back in the eu given that you have got to get independence first?— get independence first? sure, what we need to do _ get independence first? sure, what we need to do is _ get independence first? sure, what we need to do is to _ get independence first? sure, what we need to do is to have _ get independence first? sure, what we need to do is to have agreed i we need to do is to have agreed referendum, that is something we need to win at westminster which is again why it is so important to have snp voices within the westminster framework. 72% of scotland want back in the eu, and more want independence. this is not a niche issue, this is mainstream within scotland. ., ., , ., ., scotland. you are still avoiding . ivina scotland. you are still avoiding giving me _ scotland. you are still avoiding giving me any _ scotland. you are still avoiding giving me any sort _ scotland. you are still avoiding giving me any sort of— scotland. you are still avoiding giving me any sort of date, i scotland. you are still avoidingl giving me any sort of date, let's move to a separate issue which is oil and gas issues and new licenses. your position was that you are against new expiration, now it is a case—by—case basis. have you shifted position simply because you now recognise that you have got constituencies where you have got oil and gas workers who perhaps were not particularly keen on your original position? we not particularly keen on your original position?— not particularly keen on your original position? we need to fund the 'ust original position? we need to fund the just transition, _ original position? we need to fund the just transition, presently, i original position? we need to fund the just transition, presently, it i thejust transition, presently, it uk oil and gas licensing is decided by the uk government. much of the new oil and gas licenses under condition of separation are going for export, and the revenues are going into the uk general... so they are not funding a just transition or having any climate assessment. if we had this power in scotland we would have assessment on all by a case by case basis, and we would use that money to fund the just transition to use all the skilled engineering jobs we have got. we have got all those skills in stage what we need is a well—funded plan to actually get those skills into the green economy and we need money in that system. we have always been pragmatic on this, we need to take climate change seriously. but we need to fund the just transition as well, so a lot of these things are going for export, thatis these things are going for export, that is just ruinous. if we see a much more holistic approach to this, then we will be open minded. aha, then we will be open minded. a couple quick final thoughts on health, that is a huge issue you have huge waiting lists, why is it taking so long to get those down and what is your commitment going forward? and come this time next week, do you still expect to be the largest group of mps,. sirliii week, do you still expect to be the largest group of mps,. snp sending mps to westminster? _ largest group of mps,. snp sending mps to westminster? the - largest group of mps,. snp sending mps to westminster? the nhs i largest group of mps,. snp sending i mps to westminster? the nhs question first. we are committed to more funding for the first. we are committed to more funding forthe uk first. we are committed to more funding for the uk nhs, we want to see more funding for the nhs in england, because we are against austerity and we are very anxious about the privatisation of the nhs, which we fear accelerate... it is devolved _ which we fear accelerate... it is devolved and _ which we fear accelerate... it is devolved and you _ which we fear accelerate... it is devolved and you have got a very long waiting list. that devolved and you have got a very long waiting list.— long waiting list. that is why we are pushing _ long waiting list. that is why we are pushing for _ long waiting list. that is why we are pushing for funding - long waiting list. that is why we are pushing for funding in i long waiting list. that is why we i are pushing for funding in england, are pushing forfunding in england, because it will come through to the scottish party, we need to get more money into the system. austerity has crippled front line public services, we are all struggling with that and we are all struggling with that and we need to see an absolute legal ban on privatisation of the nhs and more money into the nhs. that would be good for all of us and it will help with the waiting lists, which are right, are far too high. we are working on them but we need more money in the system to do it. and your point about the mps, that is up to the people scotland. i am fighting for every boat and we are taking nothing for granted. a number of seats will be close but that is why it really matters to have a strong scottish voice, a strong progressive voice with pro—eu politics within the uk parliament in order to try and get the uk back to the eu and more money for public services. ., ., ,, ., ,, the eu and more money for public services. ., ., ,, ., ., ,, services. good to talk to you, thank ou for services. good to talk to you, thank you forjoining _ services. good to talk to you, thank you forjoining us — services. good to talk to you, thank you forjoining us on _ services. good to talk to you, thank you forjoining us on the _ services. good to talk to you, thank. you forjoining us on the programme. junior doctors in england have begun anotherfive—day strike in their long—running pay dispute with the government. it's the 11th walk—out since march of last year. nhs england has warned of major disruption, particularly with the warmer weather putting extra pressure on its services. their union, the british medical association, is calling for a phased 35% pay rise. both labour and the conservatives say that is unaffordable. 0ur health correspondent, catherine burns reports. this is a sight we have seen so much over the last 18 months. nhs staff outside the hospital is calling for better pay... what do we want? ..you can hear the chants right now. but there is something that's different about this particular strike and that is the timing — one week before a general election. there has been some criticism of the bma for calling the strike at this time because the government, even if it wanted to isn't allowed to bring in any major new policies right now, so they couldn't bring in a new pay offer. what this will do, though, is push this issue right to the top of the in—tray of whoever will be in the government in eight days' time. as for patients, how is this going to affect them? well, we will expect tens of thousands of appointments to be postponed or cancelled over the next five days. the message, though, is that the nhs is open for business. if there is an emergency, call 999. if not, contact it in the usual ways. junior doctors have now taken their protest to downing street. 0ur reporter greg mckenzie is there. greg, just give us the mood in terms of the people you are there with, it is interesting listening to wes it's treating for labour, he has pledged that if labour wins the election this time next week it will be the first call he makes to the bma to try to sort this out. we first call he makes to the bma to try to sort this out.— first call he makes to the bma to try to sort this out. we are outside 10 downing — try to sort this out. we are outside 10 downing street, _ try to sort this out. we are outside 10 downing street, the _ try to sort this out. we are outside 10 downing street, the protest i try to sort this out. we are outsidej 10 downing street, the protest has begun and there are speeches from doctors currently taking place. about 200 or 300 junior doctors here are now on strike for five days. that strike action began at 7am this morning across the southeast bma members taking part. that strike will continue right through until tuesday morning. two days before the general election. let's bring in one of the doctors who is on strike today, and for the next five days. why are you here today? to today, and for the next five days. why are you here today? to speak up auainst the why are you here today? to speak up against the 2696 _ why are you here today? to speak up against the 26% pay _ why are you here today? to speak up against the 26% pay cut _ why are you here today? to speak up against the 2696 pay cut we _ why are you here today? to speak up against the 2696 pay cut we have i against the 26% pay cut we have endured — against the 26% pay cut we have endured over the last 14 years. what that looks _ endured over the last 14 years. what that looks like is a doctor in 2008 was earning around £21 an hour in today's— was earning around £21 an hour in today's money, but after these pay cuts they— today's money, but after these pay cuts they are now earning only £15 a our in _ cuts they are now earning only £15 a our in today's money. there being signalled — our in today's money. there being signalled again and again that they are not— signalled again and again that they are not valued. we have tried to speak— are not valued. we have tried to speak to — are not valued. we have tried to speak to the government to raise these _ speak to the government to raise these concerns and they have repeatedly walked out and we find ourselves — repeatedly walked out and we find ourselves having to stage a strike action— ourselves having to stage a strike action again. the ourselves having to stage a strike action again-— ourselves having to stage a strike action aaain. ., , . , ., action again. the conservatives have said that the — action again. the conservatives have said that the payraise _ action again. the conservatives have said that the payraise you _ action again. the conservatives have said that the payraise you are - said that the payraise you are asking for is unreasonable, what is the middle ground? that asking for is unreasonable, what is the middle ground?— asking for is unreasonable, what is the middle ground? that sounds like a big number. _ the middle ground? that sounds like a big number, but— the middle ground? that sounds like a big number, but when _ the middle ground? that sounds like a big number, but when we - the middle ground? that sounds like a big number, but when we think i a big number, but when we think about— a big number, but when we think about the — a big number, but when we think about the wages, someone earning £15 an hour— about the wages, someone earning £15 an hour to— about the wages, someone earning £15 an hour to £21 an hour, it is unreasonable to suggest that is unaffordable. 0ur unreasonable to suggest that is unaffordable. our current government has wasted _ unaffordable. our current government has wasted more than doubled the cost of— has wasted more than doubled the cost of what it would have taken to resolve _ cost of what it would have taken to resolve our— cost of what it would have taken to resolve our dispute instantaneously in one _ resolve our dispute instantaneously in one go. — resolve our dispute instantaneously in one go, which we are not asking for, in one go, which we are not asking for. on _ in one go, which we are not asking for, on fighting us with this now 11th for, on fighting us with this now iith round — for, on fighting us with this now 11th round of strike action. and not wantin: to 11th round of strike action. and not wanting to challenge _ 11th round of strike action. and not wanting to challenge the _ 11th round of strike action. and not wanting to challenge the motive i 11th round of strike action. and not| wanting to challenge the motive for the protest, despite the protest, but the timing, surely, a general election... there could be a new government next week. we election... there could be a new government next week. we called this action because — government next week. we called this action because rishi _ government next week. we called this action because rishi sunak— government next week. we called this action because rishi sunak yet - action because rishi sunak yet again has disengaged from talks with us and left _ has disengaged from talks with us and left no option of what we could do going _ and left no option of what we could do going forward. that has been the trigger— do going forward. that has been the trigger for— do going forward. that has been the trigger for us to have called a strike — trigger for us to have called a strike action previously, we were in discussions — strike action previously, we were in discussions for three months before we called _ discussions for three months before we called for strike action. the general— we called for strike action. the general election is his excuse, but he could _ general election is his excuse, but he could make a commitment which is now in— he could make a commitment which is now in this _ he could make a commitment which is now in this period, all we are asking — now in this period, all we are asking for— now in this period, all we are asking for to restore our and should he present— asking for to restore our and should he present that to us, we can call off the _ he present that to us, we can call off the strike.— he present that to us, we can call off the strike. thank you very much for that. off the strike. thank you very much for that- you _ off the strike. thank you very much for that. you can _ off the strike. thank you very much for that. you can hear _ off the strike. thank you very much for that. you can hear it _ off the strike. thank you very much for that. you can hear it here, i for that. you can hear it here, these are the protests and they will last for about an hour, many more speeches taking place on the stage to my right and ultimately they are calling on the government for a 35% pay rise, which they say is to compensate for 15 years of below inflation pay awards. five days of strikes forjunior doctors in the southeast of england. back to you in the studio. ., ., southeast of england. back to you in the studio. ., ,, , ., southeast of england. back to you in the studio. ., ~' , ., , . the studio. thank you very much, let's squeeze _ the studio. thank you very much, let's squeeze in _ the studio. thank you very much, let's squeeze in one _ the studio. thank you very much, let's squeeze in one more - the studio. thank you very much, let's squeeze in one more story. | the big name acts will take to the stages at glastonbury from tomorrow, but thousands of people are already on site and raring to go. they've had some glorious weather to kick—start the festival. 0ur entertainment correspondent colin paterson is there for us — and sent this. everywhere we went around glastonbury, there was one thing in common. it is a bit warm. people battling against the heat. this has got to be a hot outfit. it is — it is a hot outfit but i'm - getting a lovely breeze up my dress. how is the parasol working out? it's working very well thank you. i would advise everyone to have a parasol. i've overdone it today, i'll tell you. i was so hot today. smile at the sky. come on, bob. robert! laughing. i have to say we spent quite a bit of time just sleeping _ in the shade this afternoon. really? that was the technique, yes? it was too hot. try, try. is that good? that's good. it's good, isn't it? that's enough. it is kind of working. it makes glastonbury, when it's nice and warm and not muddy but i'll tell you what, it's overwhelming for a lot... including little luca. little luca. where are you from? from austria. you have worn a bold choice for such a hot day. yes, it's a lederhosen. you recommend lederhosen for a hot day? yes, especially for glastonbury. yes, good. so tomorrow you turn up - in lederhosen as well, i guess. i think people will be handing back their tv licences if that happens. laughter. there was some help on hand from an expert. keep hydrated, water, water, water. find some shade, and i know we're at glastonbury having a good time, but try not to get too drunk too soon. but things were also heating up when it came to love. at the top of the park stage, this couple had come from japan to get married. cheering. and then we came across james and maria, who had got engaged minutes before, with help from glastonbury regulars, the performance artists, ministry of happy. i knew i was going to make it happen this glastonbury. i didn't want to be the guy that goes up to the glastonbury sign and then just goes to do my deed and then someone gets there before me. i didn't want to do that, and i knew she likes theatre. i didn't know what was happening. they took the blindfold off to channel the love and there he was standing there. i'm glad you said yes. yeah. thankfully, things had cooled down by 10:30 at night when events officially got under way with glastonbury�*s first—ever drone show. mr sparkly bum bag, what did you make of it? it was nice to do something a little bit different this year, and it was nice to try something new. i thought it was fantastic. it felt a bit like your aunties put together a cheesy powerpoint about the things she likes about you. oh, god, please don't use any of this! it's beautiful and portrayed i a positive message and opened the festival lovely, really nice. day one in the sun was done. colin paterson, bbc news, glastonbury now it's time for a look at the weather. hello. over the last couple of days, a few places in the uk have just crept above 30 celsius, but no 30s on the weather map today because this stripe of cloud, a cold front, has been moving eastwards, sweeping that very warm and humid air away. in fact, for some, it feels more like autumn than summer, as this unseasonably deep area of low pressure approaches northern ireland and scotland. outbreaks of rain developing here as we head towards the end of the day. quite windy, particularly around some of the coasts. further south and east, largely dry, some spells of sunshine, some warmth holding on for a time in eastern england. but these are the temperatures we can expect for the end of the afternoon, 13 in stornoway, 23 in norwich and london. and then, as we head into the evening, while these outbreaks of rain push across northern ireland into western parts of scotland, wind gusts of 40, 45, maybe 50mph. so blustery through the evening across the northern half of the uk. furthersouth, more in the way of dry weather. some clear spells to take us into friday morning. temperatures generally holding up in double digits for most of us, but not as humid as it was last night across some southern and eastern parts. tomorrow, a day of sunny spells and showers, really, the showers, most plentiful across the northern half of the uk. could be some really heavy, thundery ones in the north east of scotland. still not feeling too bad if you get yourself into some sunshine. temperatures across south—eastern parts of england up to around 22 celsius. more like 16 for glasgow, 17 celsius there in belfast, though certainly cooler than it has been for many. into the weekend, though, we'll continue to see some spells of sunshine. where you get into some sunshine, although temperatures will be a bit lower than they have been, it will still feel relatively warm. however, a bit of rain in the outlook as well. this frontal system pushing in from the west will bring cloud and some splashes of rain, perhapsjust fringing into northern ireland, but more especially getting into parts of north wales, northern england, that cloud sinking its way a little bit further southwards. but towards the south east of england, actually, things turning a little warmer and more humid again. 24, 25 celsius, some sunshine in the north of scotland, although here it will feel a little chillier. and actually on sunday, in scotland, we could see one or two showers, a fair amount of cloud elsewhere. i think the best of the sunshine down towards the south of england. even here, just the chance of the odd rogue shower. temperatures north to south between 13 and 21 celsius. live from london, this is bbc news. the metropolitan police say seven officers are now being investigated over bets on the timing of the general election, as the prime minister is grilled over his aide. where anyone has broken the rules, they should face the full consequences of the law, whether thatis consequences of the law, whether that is the gambling commission or the police, and i will also ensure they are booted out of the conservative party. police fire tear gas and rubber bullets at protesters in nairobi, a day after the president scrapped his finance bill which raised taxes. the mother of jay slater's best friend says the bbc a deluge of online abuse about the missing teen is added to their living nightmare. what do we want? for; is added to their living nightmare. what do we want? junior doctors in england strike for the 11th time in their long—running pay dispute. and festivalgoers prepare for the heat and the music at glastonbury. hello and welcome to bbc news. the number of metropolitan police officers suspected of placing bets on the timing of the election has risen to seven. one of them, a member of rishi sunak�*s close protection team, has already been arrested and suspended. scotland yard says it's also investigating a small number of cases where it's possible that offences, including misconduct in public office may have been committed. the prime minister has been speaking again about the furore over his aide, craig williams, who has admitted placing a "flutter" on a july election. where anyone has broken the rules, they should face the full consequences of the law, whether thatis consequences of the law, whether that is the gambling commission of the police, and i will also ensure that they are booted out of the conservative party. did that they are booted out of the conservative party.— that they are booted out of the conservative party. did you tell crai: conservative party. did you tell craig williams, _ conservative party. did you tell craig williams, a _ conservative party. did you tell craig williams, a man - conservative party. did you tell craig williams, a man you i conservative party. did you tell craig williams, a man you said| conservative party. did you tell- craig williams, a man you said you are with _ craig williams, a man you said you are with almost every minute of every _ are with almost every minute of every day, — are with almost every minute of every day, the date of the election before _ every day, the date of the election before he — every day, the date of the election before he put the bet on? | every day, the date of the election before he put the bet on?- before he put the bet on? i have been clear— before he put the bet on? i have been clear about _ before he put the bet on? i have been clear about this, _ before he put the bet on? i have been clear about this, i - before he put the bet on? i have been clear about this, i am - before he put the bet on? i have i been clear about this, i am curious to have learnt about the allegations, we have initiated internal inquiries, because i don't have access to the gambling commission's details, we have suspended candidates. whilst there are ongoing investigations, as you said yourself, the police also involved, it is not right for me to say anything more about that. but if anyone has broken the rules, of course they should face the full consequences of the law, and i will ensure they are booted out of the conservative party. you ensure they are booted out of the conservative party.— ensure they are booted out of the conservative party. you know whether ou told conservative party. you know whether you told craig — conservative party. you know whether you told craig williams, _ conservative party. you know whether you told craig williams, you _ conservative party. you know whether you told craig williams, you cannot. you told craig williams, you cannot prejudice _ you told craig williams, you cannot prejudice an investigation, you can absolutely— prejudice an investigation, you can absolutely answer this question? it absolutely answer this question? [it is not absolutely answer this question? is not right, absolutely answer this question? it is not right, while there are ongoing investigations, that there was compromised in any way, shape or form, they are rightly confidential, they are rightly confidential, and it is important that they stay that way, and that is the right thing to do, and you know that, you know that. we have done internal inquiries of our own... this that. we have done internal inquiries of our own... this is not true... inquiries of our own... this is not true- -- we _ inquiries of our own... this is not true... we have _ inquiries of our own... this is not true... we have done _ inquiries of our own... this is not true... we have done internal - true... we have done internal inquiries _ true. .. we have done internal inquiries of— true... we have done internal inquiries of our _ true... we have done internal inquiries of our own... - true... we have done internal inquiries of our own... we - true... we have done internal i inquiries of our own... we have true... we have done internal - inquiries of our own. .. we have done inquiries of our own... we have done internal inquiries of our own, and as a result of those have suspended candidates. i have been clear that anyone who has broken the rules should face the full consequences of the law, i will ensure they are booted out of the party, and whilst there are ongoing independent investigations, including, as you said, by the police, it is important those matters proceed properly. craig williams was suspended by the conservatives, following news that he's under investigation by the gambling commission over a bet placed on the timing of the election. he says he "committed an error ofjudgment, not an offence" and has apologised to voters. there's been more bad news for mr sunak this afternoon. daniel sandford told me more about what the metropolitan police has been saying following allegations that officers placed bets on the date of the election. a very interesting statement, yes, it confirmed there are now seven metropolitan police officers in this cloud of suspicion about having possibly bet on the election date, but at this stage only one of them has been interviewed under caution, this close protection officer who was interviewed on suspicion of misconduct in public office. he is currently on restricted duties, but i think the more interesting part of the statement is the metropolitan police saying they will take the lead in any cases which are not simply an allegation of cheating, somebody essentially betting on the election with inside information, but whether there are other offences involved, for example misconduct in public office, because until now they have only been looking at their own officers. misconduct in public office could apply to a police officer, but it could also apply to somebody who is an mp at the time they made the bet, or anyone else on the public payroll, civil servants, special advisers, anyone who is getting paid by the public, rather than conservative party headquarters could fall into this category. so it means the police may now potentially be looking at people who are on the lists of having made suspicious bets who are not just police officers, it could be mps, for example. that does sound significant if the net becomes a slightly wider. in terms of how the police will go about this, what do you know? there have been quite lurid suggestions of people being arrested. i think if there were public officials or civil servants who came into the police's ambit as it were, it is more likely it would be done in interview by arrangement, they would say, we need to talk to you about this, the concerns about this bet, because you are paid out of the public payroll at the time, and normally there would be a meeting arranged with a solicitor. but it is quite serious, misconduct in public office is regarded as a serious offence, so anyone who starts falling under that cloud of suspicion is potentially in quite serious trouble. and briefly, daniel, no particular indication in terms of any timeline here, a week to go in this general election campaign, presumably no indication from the metropolitan police in terms of any sort of expectation when we might see a development? no—one has given me any strong indication, but i don't think it is going to move massively quickly. i think with an election looming, you might want to kind of somehow get it done and out of the way, but there is no way you could go through the full legal and court process, if it led to charges, in time for the election, in which case much case better to get it done right, so i don't think anything will happen at massive speed. but some people have been interviewed by the gambling commission, but i do not think we will suddenly get to lots and lots of announcements in a matter of days. there's been more bad news for mr sunak this afternoon. a tory donor has switched his support to reform uk. john hall, the former owner of newcastle united football club, said concern about the level of immigration had prompted his decision to back nigel farage. last night, the two main leaders clashed over their plans for tax, immigration and the welfare budget in the final leaders' debate before polling day. our political correspondent harry farley reports. seven days to go, and it's a sprint for the finish line. leaders are on the road after sir keir starmer and rishi sunak clashed over tax, net zero and immigration. we're an island, why can't we easily close our borders? if keir starmer- is your prime minister, all those illegal migrantsl will be out on our streets. record numbers have come under this prime minister's watch, record numbers coming across the channel. 50,000 people have come since rishi sunak has been prime minister, 50,000 across the channel. labour want to return more people to countries they came from. rishi sunak mocked the idea. well, do you know where they come from? they come from iran, syria, afghanistan. when he says he will return people, will you sit down with the iranian ayatollahs and try to do a deal with the taliban? it's completely nonsensical, what you are saying. the prime minister was challenged on his language of "surrender" in what was a fiery debate. there's an important choice for people, and i don't want people to sleepwalk into something. i believe a labour government would be damaging for our country. i get people are frustrated with me and our party, but this is not a by—election, it is a choice about the future and that will have severe consequences for financial security. and for labour on their plans on whether those arriving on small boats to stay. when people have no right to be here, they will be removed. where a claim succeeds, that is a claim that has succeeded. at the moment, there is 100% success in the sense that anybody here under this government is staying here for life, paid for by the taxpayer. that is not sustainable. the message from the liberal democrats today... that message was on the nhs, but sir ed davey also criticised the decision to leave the european law enforcement agency. i can't understand why the conservatives made a huge error, and it's undermined the ability of our country to stop the boats and also keep our country more secure. the snp leader was on bbc woman's hour. during this election campaign, i've concentrated on the fact there has been significant decisions taken in westminster that have had a negative effect on the lives of individuals in scotland around austerity, brexit and the cost of living. at this event in county durham, nigel farage announced a former conservative donor, sirjohn hall, support reform uk over concerns about the level of immigration. one week left before you decide their futures. harry farley, bbc news. let's speak to our correspondent damian grammaticas, who's travelling with labour. what has labour been concentrating on today? what has labour been concentrating on toda ? ~ a what has labour been concentrating on toda ? ~ ~. ., on today? well, matthew, we have 'ust been on today? well, matthew, we have just been out _ on today? well, matthew, we have just been out a _ on today? well, matthew, we have just been out a pottery _ on today? well, matthew, we have just been out a pottery in _ just been out a pottery in staffordshire, we are now on our way to cheshire, and earlier we were in staffordshire at a further education college, so the labour official campaign events today has all been around the pitch to use, so around training, access to apprenticeships, thatis training, access to apprenticeships, that is part of what they were doing at the pottery, talking to students at the pottery, talking to students at the pottery, talking to students at the college, and it is about trying to sort of focus on improving opportunities for those who are at the end of school, in college, leaving, so keir starmer was addressing questions, he took questions all about housing, about university funding, about student loans and cost of living, all that sort of stuff. so he is wanting to focus on that, of course questions about last night's debate, he said he thought it went very well, and he was pretty pleased with it. and he is keen, as he was in his events that he was out, this idea that he frames as the conservative fighting a negative campaign, he says he is all about being the change candidate, the one who is talking about forming, you know, bringing reform to the nhs, the economy. so thatis reform to the nhs, the economy. so that is the turf you want to pitch this on as we go into the final stretch of the campaign. the event we are heading to now is a third of the day. tony hill is with ed davey, i am trying to work out what they are concentrating on today! —— jenny hill. it concentrating on today! -- jenny hill. , , , . ., hill. it is very difficult to concentrate _ hill. it is very difficult to concentrate on - hill. it is very difficult to concentrate on anything| hill. it is very difficult to - concentrate on anything other hill. it is very difficult to _ concentrate on anything other than this field _ concentrate on anything other than this field of alpacas! ed davey has been _ this field of alpacas! ed davey has been trying, somewhat unsuccessfully, to feed this one grass, _ unsuccessfully, to feed this one grass, i— unsuccessfully, to feed this one grass, i am sure unsuccessfully, to feed this one grass, iam sure he is hoping his liberei— grass, iam sure he is hoping his liberal democrat message will go down _ liberal democrat message will go down better with the electorate here in norih— down better with the electorate here in north shropshire. it was a conservative safe seat until 2021, when _ conservative safe seat until 2021, when it _ conservative safe seat until 2021, when it went to the lib dems, they are hoping — when it went to the lib dems, they are hoping to repeat that success next week. so we have got him here on the _ next week. so we have got him here on the campaign... i think he is bringing— on the campaign... i think he is bringing over pele, you seem to have a natural— bringing over pele, you seem to have a natural knack for this! pele bringing over pele, you seem to have a natural knack for this!— a natural knack for this! pele is ureat, a natural knack for this! pele is great, although _ a natural knack for this! pele is great, although he _ a natural knack for this! pele is great, although he is— a natural knack for this! pele is great, although he is a - a natural knack for this! pele is | great, although he is a brazilian a natural knack for this! pele is - great, although he is a brazilian he supports portugal. i am great, although he is a brazilian he supports portugal-— supports portugal. i am a bit nervous. _ supports portugal. i am a bit nervous, because _ supports portugal. i am a bit nervous, because we - supports portugal. i am a bit nervous, because we are - supports portugal. i am a bit| nervous, because we are told supports portugal. i am a bit - nervous, because we are told they can spit _ nervous, because we are told they can spit e — nervous, because we are told they can spit a distance up to ten feet, but you _ can spit a distance up to ten feet, but you seem to have under control, if only— but you seem to have under control, if only it _ but you seem to have under control, if only it were as easy to persuade the electorate to vote for your party? — the electorate to vote for your party? you don't need another campaign _ party? you don't need another campaign video after today! ed davey has been _ campaign video after today! ed davey has been keen to talk about what happens — has been keen to talk about what happens after the election, do you went _ happens after the election, do you went to— happens after the election, do you want to tell us about that? you have .ot want to tell us about that? you have got the _ want to tell us about that? you have got the job— want to tell us about that? you have got the job in hand? we want to tell us about that? you have got the job in hand?— got the 'ob in hand? we are getting the got the job in hand? we are getting the voters to _ got the job in hand? we are getting the voters to the _ got the job in hand? we are getting the voters to the polls! _ got the job in hand? we are getting the voters to the polls! you - got the job in hand? we are getting the voters to the polls! you are - the voters to the polls! you are talkin: the voters to the polls! you are talking very _ the voters to the polls! you are talking very specifically - the voters to the polls! you are talking very specifically about l the voters to the polls! you are | talking very specifically about an emergency budget.— talking very specifically about an emergency budget. yeah, we have about health _ emergency budget. yeah, we have about health and _ emergency budget. yeah, we have about health and care _ emergency budget. yeah, we have about health and care at _ emergency budget. yeah, we have about health and care at the - emergency budget. yeah, we have about health and care at the top i emergency budget. yeah, we have about health and care at the top ofj about health and care at the top of our priorities in this election, and the nhs is in such crisis, we need an emergency budget next month, we cannot wait any longer. irate an emergency budget next month, we cannot wait any longer.— cannot wait any longer. we know you are not going — cannot wait any longer. we know you are not going to _ cannot wait any longer. we know you are not going to end _ cannot wait any longer. we know you are not going to end up _ cannot wait any longer. we know you are not going to end up running - cannot wait any longer. we know you are not going to end up running the l are not going to end up running the country— are not going to end up running the country this— are not going to end up running the country this week, and something very dramatic happens, but you will be in _ very dramatic happens, but you will be in a _ very dramatic happens, but you will be in a position where you are hoping — be in a position where you are hoping to— be in a position where you are hoping to put a lot of pressure on whoever — hoping to put a lot of pressure on whoever forms the next government. the more _ whoever forms the next government. the more people who vote liberal democrat on thursday the lith of july, the more mps we have, they will be championing their community, the farming community here or elsewhere, and they will be able to argue for liberal democrat policies with health and care right at the top. we will be in parliament, holding whoever is in government to account, to make sure they do invest in our health and care. you account, to make sure they do invest in our health and care.— in our health and care. you have been running — in our health and care. you have been running a _ in our health and care. you have been running a highly— in our health and care. you have i been running a highly entertaining campaign, we are all enjoying it, pete _ campaign, we are all enjoying it, pete is _ campaign, we are all enjoying it, pele is having a great day out as well, _ pele is having a great day out as well, but — pele is having a great day out as well, but we know a lot of this election— well, but we know a lot of this election comes down to trust. you have _ election comes down to trust. you have had _ election comes down to trust. you have had a — election comes down to trust. you have had a grilling by members of the public— have had a grilling by members of the public over the last few days about _ the public over the last few days about the — the public over the last few days about the horizon scandal, about what _ about the horizon scandal, about what is _ about the horizon scandal, about what is going on with the betting scandal. — what is going on with the betting scandal, your record and your party's — scandal, your record and your party's record on tuition fees. how do you _ party's record on tuition fees. how do you break through the electorate's resistance to trusting you again? | electorate's resistance to trusting ou auain? ., electorate's resistance to trusting ouauain? . ., , _ electorate's resistance to trusting ouaain? . ., electorate's resistance to trusting ou auain? . ., , _ ., ., , you again? i am happy to answer questions. _ you again? i am happy to answer questions, and _ you again? i am happy to answer questions, and i _ you again? i am happy to answer questions, and i hope _ you again? i am happy to answer questions, and i hope you - you again? i am happy to answer questions, and i hope you have l you again? i am happy to answer- questions, and i hope you have seen me being really straightforward on those. and i think it is working, actually, i think people are listening to us again, maybe they haven't in recent elections, but we are getting a positive response from people who know we can win in areas like shropshire, the home counties, the west country, where only the lib dems can beat the conservatives. i'm really grateful for all the people are thinking about switching to the liberal democrats. what is striking about this election is that former conservatives are putting their trust in liberal democrats, they like what we're seeing on health and care, ruralareas,...! like what we're seeing on health and care, rural areas,..._ care, rural areas,... i think you should care, rural areas,... ithink you should take _ care, rural areas,... ithink you should take down _ care, rural areas,... ithink you should take down the - care, ruralareas,... ithink you should take down the back- care, rural areas,... ithink you should take down the back of. care, rural areas,... i think you i should take down the back of the field, _ should take down the back of the field, the — should take down the back of the field, the of this animal is getting a little _ field, the of this animal is getting a little bit — field, the of this animal is getting a little bit too closed off it is a bit unpleasant! we should mention that a _ bit unpleasant! we should mention that a full— bit unpleasant! we should mention that a full list of all the candidates standing in north shropshire is available on the bbc website _ shropshire is available on the bbc website. ed davey has a very entertaining and visual campaign, which _ entertaining and visual campaign, which of— entertaining and visual campaign, which of course puts the lib dem leader— which of course puts the lib dem leader right at the heart of things, we have _ leader right at the heart of things, we have heard a lot about his personality, his life, his back story, — personality, his life, his back story, his _ personality, his life, his back story, his caring responsibilities, but it— story, his caring responsibilities, but it does— story, his caring responsibilities, but it does still come down to this one issue — but it does still come down to this one issue of trust, and time and again— one issue of trust, and time and again on— one issue of trust, and time and again on the campaign trail he is coming— again on the campaign trail he is coming across people who want to know _ coming across people who want to know whether they can trust him over issues _ know whether they can trust him over issues like _ know whether they can trust him over issues like tuition fees, many people — issues like tuition fees, many people feeling rather betrayed by the lib— people feeling rather betrayed by the lib dems when, during that coalition— the lib dems when, during that coalition government with the conservatives, they did a u—turn over— conservatives, they did a u—turn over plans — conservatives, they did a u—turn over plans to scrap them. they are concerned — over plans to scrap them. they are concerned about his time as post office _ concerned about his time as post office minister, given what we now know _ office minister, given what we now know about — office minister, given what we now know about what was going on in the post office _ know about what was going on in the post office at that time. so there are concerns, and they have been put to him. _ are concerns, and they have been put to hinr. he _ are concerns, and they have been put to hinr. he is— are concerns, and they have been put to him, he is keen to chat, and i think— to him, he is keen to chat, and i thinkfor— to him, he is keen to chat, and i think for now— to him, he is keen to chat, and i think for now he is focusing on the task in— think for now he is focusing on the task in hand. i must say that pele is quite _ task in hand. i must say that pele is quite a — task in hand. i must say that pele is quite a lively character, perhaps you will— is quite a lively character, perhaps you will be — is quite a lively character, perhaps you will be interested to hear that half of _ you will be interested to hear that half of the — you will be interested to hear that half of the animals on this farm are named _ half of the animals on this farm are named after brazilian footballers, the other— named after brazilian footballers, the other half after powerful women. i the other half after powerful women. i haven't— the other half after powerful women. i haven't yet heard the names of those _ i haven't yet heard the names of those powerful women, but so few will end _ those powerful women, but so few will end up— those powerful women, but so few will end up in politics after next week _ will end up in politics after next week we — will end up in politics after next week. we are on the final countdown here, _ week. we are on the final countdown here, ed _ week. we are on the final countdown here, ed davey's team is starting to look a _ here, ed davey's team is starting to look a bit _ here, ed davey's team is starting to look a bit weary around the edges, but they— look a bit weary around the edges, but they know this is now the final push _ but they know this is now the final push it— but they know this is now the final push. it sounds to me as though they think their— push. it sounds to me as though they think their strategy is working, as though— think their strategy is working, as though they will not be making any changes— though they will not be making any changes to it. you will know there has been — changes to it. you will know there has been a — changes to it. you will know there has been a bit of criticism about it looking _ has been a bit of criticism about it looking a — has been a bit of criticism about it looking a bit too light and fluffy, certainly — looking a bit too light and fluffy, certainly it is doing that today, isn't _ certainly it is doing that today, isn't it? — certainly it is doing that today, isn't it? but it looks like they are optimistic— isn't it? but it looks like they are optimistic about their chances next week _ optimistic about their chances next week. , , , ., , optimistic about their chances next week. , , week. jenny, you survived unscathed, jenn hill, week. jenny, you survived unscathed, jenny hill. thanks _ week. jenny, you survived unscathed, jenny hill, thanks very _ week. jenny, you survived unscathed, jenny hill, thanks very much, - week. jenny, you survived unscathed, jenny hill, thanks very much, and - jenny hill, thanks very much, and damian grammaticas on the labour boss, and we will talk to the conservative campaign later on i'll programme. —— the labour bus. we returned to the breaking news from the uk health security agency, saying that one person has died in england linked to the ongoing e.coli outbreak. with me in the studio is health correspondent nick triggle, tell us more about the update. weill. tell us more about the update. well, we have been _ tell us more about the update. well, we have been reporting _ tell us more about the update. well, we have been reporting on _ tell us more about the update. in we have been reporting on this outbreak linked to the pre—packaged sandwiches that can be bought in supermarkets and shops, and the latest update from the ukhsa reports 19 more cases, bringing the total across the uk to 275 identified, half of those have ended up in hospital, although the rate of new cases is beginning to drop. there has been two deaths within 28 days of an infection, but only one of those deaths is being linked as being probably caused by the e.coli infection. we do not know anything about that person, apart from them having underlying health problems. and in terms of advice, what are they saying?— they saying? e.coli is a bacteria that lives in _ they saying? e.coli is a bacteria that lives in the _ they saying? e.coli is a bacteria that lives in the gut, _ they saying? e.coli is a bacteria that lives in the gut, most - they saying? e.coli is a bacteria| that lives in the gut, most types are harmless, but this particular type attacks the lining of are harmless, but this particular type attacks the linin- are harmless, but this particular type attacks the lining of the gut, causina type attacks the lining of the gut, causing severe — type attacks the lining of the gut, causing severe diarrhoea, - type attacks the lining of the gut, i causing severe diarrhoea, vomiting and fever. so the uk health security agency have three bits of advice, they say when you are preparing food, important to wash your hands and clean the services with disinfectant. if you are unwell, you should not prepare food for others, and you should stay away from hospitals and care homes well vulnerable people are. and if you are unwell, you should not return to work, school or nursery, you have to wait 48 hours after your symptoms have gone. wait 48 hours after your symptoms have one. w' wait 48 hours after your symptoms have one. w ., , have gone. nick triggle, thanks very much, have gone. nick triggle, thanks very much. thank — have gone. nick triggle, thanks very much, thank you. _ anti—government demonstrators have returned to the streets of the kenyan capital, nairobi in defiance of warnings by the authorities. after a quiet start to thursday, police have, in the past few hours, been firing tear gas and, according to news agency afp, rubber bullets in an effort to disperse crowds. more than 20 people were killed by police during mass demonstrations on tuesday when part of the parliament building was ransacked. human rights groups claim state agents have been abducting people linked to the protests. kenya's bar association has gone to court to challenge mr ruto's decision to deploy the military. the protesters have already forced president william ruto to abandon his deeply unpopularfinance bill, which would have brought in new taxes. some protesters are calling for the president to step down, accusing his government of corruption. i spoke to our correspondent merchuma, who's in nairobi, for the very latest from the ground. i am in the central business district in nairobi, and we have not seen a lot of activity, there was some action a few hours ago, but now it is calm where i am. but we could hear tear gas canisters on the other side of the street, where pockets of protesters have been trying to advance into the city, trying to get towards parliament, but they have not been able to, so the numbers are not as big as what we saw on tuesday of this week and previously. and the nature of the people who are now trying to be engaged by the police is not what we saw again on tuesday, these are people who have been trying to throw stones, throwing slings at the police, but police have been trying to keep them away. the plan was for these protesters to go on to go on towards state house, towards parliament, but most of the young people on social media who have been organising the last few days have asked them not to go and instead go towards parliament, but so far they have not been able to advance in that direction. mercy, is there any current update in terms of casualty figures? so there is no current update, because even today we have seen some casualties, there have been reports about people being hit by rubber bullets, there is an unconfirmed report of somebody hit by a live bullet, so we do not have new casualty numbers. human rights agencies have been collecting data from 35 counties which took part in the protest, but no confirmed figures yet, but safe to say that more than 20 people were killed and more than 100 injured on tuesday alone. about today, we cannot confirm it for sure, but there are a few injuries. a final thought, because some of the crowds have been calling for the president to stand down, that is not going to happen, but what has been the response from the president? yes, if you look on social media, especially on x, #rutomustgo is trending, but amidst all that, what they really want to see is change and accountability in how the president conducts his governance, how he is running this country and how his members of parliament are conducting their business at the constituency level. we have seen a lot of corruption and wastage of public funds. that is what they want to see changed. there has been a rallying call for people to call back their members of parliament, but it may be a long road, because at the moment we do not have a functioning electoral commission, but the calls that are really loud right now are for change and accountability and proper usage of the taxes that the government is collecting at this point. this time next week, people will be heading to polling stations to cast their votes in the general election. the bbc is travelling around the country to listen to the issues that matter to you, the voter. this afternoon, we're in finchley and golders green constituency. it is a marginal seat that has been identified as a labour target. we can go now live to samantha simmonds, who is in finchley for us. matthew, thanks very much. i am in leafy north london, and one of the issues that has really come to the fore in recent years is about mps' safety, the murder ofjo cox eight years ago, the murder of sir david amess four years ago. mps have been given extra security since then, but one mp, former mp who has been directly impacted with fears over their own safety as mike freer, who held this seat from 2010. welcome to you, you have stood down specifically over fears for your personal safety, what has happened? well, after numerous run—ins with different groups who wanted to attack me and a run—in with the man who went on to kill sir david amess, we had the arson attack on christmas eve, and that was the final straw. there comes a point where it is not fair on ourfamilies to keep wondering if we are going to come home after a day's work, so there is a point where you say enough, and for us that was the arson attack. what impact has it had on you and yourfamilies? what impact has it had on you and your families?— what impact has it had on you and your families? every mp gets a level of abuse, usually _ your families? every mp gets a level of abuse, usually it _ your families? every mp gets a level of abuse, usually it is, _ your families? every mp gets a level of abuse, usually it is, you - your families? every mp gets a level of abuse, usually it is, you know, i of abuse, usually it is, you know, phone calls or e—mail, but increasingly we are starting to worry about fixated individuals or specific attacks by people who have a grudge, whatever that might be caused by. i have to say that women mps get it even worse, certainly the threats of sexual violence is particularly worrying, and that is why i do not a single mp who has not had some sort of incident and he does not carry some sort of alarm system has had their home and office upgraded in terms of security. sadly, i think it will drive people out of being a member of parliament. i was going to ask you about that, because we have had these really awful murders of two mps in the last eight years, and very visible attacks as well, as you are saying on your constituency office, mps increasingly talking about their own security. do you think it is pushing people away from being politicians? i think it will weigh heavily on people, certainly some of my friends who want to become mps, they will think hard about it, because is it worth the stress? it is the most amazing job to be a member of parliament, but they need to go into this with their eyes open, especially your family, because this with their eyes open, especially yourfamily, because if they are not bought into the life of being an mp, you cannot do thejob effectively, so i'm not saying we need to wrap mps in rings of steel, because accessibility is a special part of our democracy, but we need to address some of the root causes of why people feel emboldened to attack mps almost with impunity. what do you think those causes are? have they changed over the last 14 years since you started? mr; have they changed over the last 14 years since you started? my personal view is that social _ years since you started? my personal view is that social media _ years since you started? my personal view is that social media has - years since you started? my personal view is that social media has a - years since you started? my personal view is that social media has a big . view is that social media has a big role in people feeling that there are no consequences, they can hide behind a keyboard, so some of that is just online abuse, but equally you are getting information through social media, and it is not necessarily cross checked, the algorithms tend to then few will doubt a viewpoint, so people can become slightly fixated on a particular point of view, and then that can mean that an mp who disagrees with them becomes the object of that fixation, so social media needs to do more to curtail this and deal with complaints faster, take some of the content down much faster.— faster, take some of the content down much faster. thank you very much for telling _ down much faster. thank you very much for telling us _ down much faster. thank you very much for telling us about - down much faster. thank you very much for telling us about your - much for telling us about your experience, good luck for the future, we wish you well. really interesting to hear the thoughts of mike freer around mps carol safety. to get a full list of all the candidates standing here in the constituency of finchley and golders green, head to the bbc news website, and they are on your screen now. we will have more from north london throughout the afternoon, but for now back to you, matthew. samantha, thanks very much. welcome if you are just samantha, thanks very much. welcome if you arejustjoining us, it is coming up to 3:30pm. let's head to the us, because donald trump and joe biden are preparing to go head—to—head in the first of two plant televised presidential debates. it is also the first such meeting since donald trump became a convicted felon. so what are some of the major topics that are likely to dominate tonight's proceedings in the campaign in coming months? for many, the number one concern is immigration and border security. donald trump claims the situation on the southern border is out of control. another issue, of course, is the economy, the rate of inflation rose in the early part of joe biden's presidency and remains a sticky, while the number of people working continue to rise. and then there is abortion, a topic that divides the nation, even more so since the supreme court overturned the decision that allowed the procedure nationwide. so let's stay with this and talk about this for the next few minutes, we will go to atlanta, where the debate takes place, speak to john atlanta, where the debate takes place, speak tojohn sudworth, go on, then, set the scene for us! i am on, then, set the scene for us! i am in the stadium _ on, then, set the scene for us! i am in the stadium which _ on, then, set the scene for us! i am in the stadium which is _ on, then, set the scene for us! i:n in the stadium which is normally housed to the power and pace of basketball games, a stark contrast, i think, with what we are going to see tonight, as america's oldest ever presidential candidates go head to head in a very controlled environment. this will be a debate in which there is no audience at all in which there is no audience at all in the studio, it is going to be one in which while each candidate is speaking to the other has his microphone turned off. a real effort by cnn to try to avoid some of the more rowdy elements of previous years, with candidates talking over each other. the big question is who is that advantage? in some centres it may contain donald trump, the style we are used to from him, which may give president biden a little bit more space. on the other hand, it may help president trump, former president trump if indeed his mission here as many people suggest is to appear more measured and presidential. perhaps the format will suit him as well. what cnn are hoping is that we get a lot more substance at the heart of it all and a lot more focus on those policy issues that you have just mentioned. we shall see, just a quick word about the polls going into the debate... as we stand now. pretty much neck — debate... as we stand now. pretty much neck and _ debate... as we stand now. pretty much neck and neck. _ debate... as we stand now. pretty much neck and neck. donald - debate... as we stand now. pretty| much neck and neck. donald trump has a slight edge in some of those keep marginal states, a slight edge in some of those keep marginalstates, but a slight edge in some of those keep marginal states, but only a slight edge. i think that is why we are having this debate now, this is far earlier in the electoral cycle than we are normally used to having these presidential debates. it is a sign that both candidates know that they really need to do something to shift the needle. hate really need to do something to shift the needle. ~ ., ~ really need to do something to shift the needle. ~ . ,, ., ., the needle. we will talk again in the needle. we will talk again in the coming _ the needle. we will talk again in the coming hours, _ the needle. we will talk again in the coming hours, thank - the needle. we will talk again in the coming hours, thank you - the needle. we will talk again in l the coming hours, thank you very much. let's stay with the debate and get more with elise labott — author of 'cosmopolitics' on substack and professor at american university's school of international service. welcome to the programme. in terms of the stakes, could they get very much higher, do you think? i of the stakes, could they get very much higher, do you think? i think the stakes are _ much higher, do you think? i think the stakes are very _ much higher, do you think? i think the stakes are very high _ much higher, do you think? i think the stakes are very high as - much higher, do you think? i think the stakes are very high as we - much higher, do you think? i think| the stakes are very high as we have been talking about, this is the earliest that it has been in ever, really, and also the first time unencumbered president has been against a former president in a debate. i think that polls are saying that to six in ten americans are watching, they think they are going to be watching, they think it is going to be very important. it will set the tone for at least the coming weeks in the campaign, the first time president trump and president biden went head—to—head in a debate, president biden one. and that set the tone for the rest of the campaign. the stakes are very high, matthew. hate the campaign. the stakes are very high. matthew.— the campaign. the stakes are very high, matthew. we will come back to town in a minute, _ high, matthew. we will come back to town in a minute, there _ high, matthew. we will come back to town in a minute, there is _ high, matthew. we will come back to town in a minute, there is so - high, matthew. we will come back to town in a minute, there is so much i town in a minute, there is so much town in a minute, there is so much to talk to you about. i am fascinated to have you here on the programme because age, that is going to be a critical issue in of which candidate is a more coherent. that is going to be one of those snapshot things that people take away very quickly, isn't it? it things that people take away very quickly. isn't it?— quickly, isn't it? it is. and look, obviously _ quickly, isn't it? it is. and look, obviously president _ quickly, isn't it? it is. and look, obviously president trump - quickly, isn't it? it is. and look, obviously president trump is i quickly, isn't it? it is. and look, i obviously president trump is going to be hitting president biden on his age, and you can see, there are two president bidens, one is the one that was really in command at the state of the union, and all the republican said he was kind of chopped up and there have been conspiracy theories that he is going to be on performance—enhancing drugs or such. there is no evidence to that. but there is also the president biden that was wandering around normandy and did not really seem to know what is going on. president trump has kind of one speed, if you will, just going on, rambling without much focus. and i think that is less effective as age and more effective just who he think that is less effective as age and more effectivejust who he is. i think he is going to be pressing the president biden about his age and virility, where president biden might be hitting trump on his demeanour and character. by, might be hitting trump on his demeanour and character. a quick follow-up on _ demeanour and character. a quick follow-up on that, _ demeanour and character. a quick follow-up on that, relentlessly i demeanour and character. a quick. follow-up on that, relentlessly over follow—up on that, relentlessly over the last few months donald trump and his close supporters have attacked joe biden on his age, they give the impression that he cannot get to the end of the sentence. is there a danger there that come in a sense, the republicans have set the bar solo, if there is a solid performance from joe biden that turns out to be a big win? absolutely. you saw after the state of the union, nobody was really expecting that much. and he delivered a very strong performance. but look, it is a snapshot. and so he is going to have to continue to deliver that performance, even if he has a great night, he is going to have to continue that. his age and his fitness is certainly something thatis his fitness is certainly something that is going to be an issue in the campaign. you cannot say it isn't, he does at times show that he is a little frail and possibly weak and not entirely focused. people say at meetings and such he is, but with the public sees is important. by, the public sees is important. a quick assessment from you on tactics. doesjoe biden go after the fact thatjump is now a convicted felon, did he make a lot of that in terms of donald trump, does he go for the man, the issues? i terms of donald trump, does he go for the man, the issues?— for the man, the issues? i think he is atoin for the man, the issues? i think he is going to — for the man, the issues? i think he is going to go _ for the man, the issues? i think he is going to go for — for the man, the issues? i think he is going to go for character, i is going to go for character, democracy. he made the point in 2028 that four years of president trump was bad enough, and that another fort would be disastrous. i think he will do that again, hit the authoritarian angle. and democracy, also some issues, of abortion and such. i think he is going to hit trump and his advisers are certainly looking to focus more on trump's character as opposed to the winds of the biden administration over the last few years. i think president trump is going to go on immigration, as you had said, but also biden's age and fitness. you as you had said, but also biden's age and fitness.— as you had said, but also biden's age and fitness. you talked about the winds of _ age and fitness. you talked about the winds of joe _ age and fitness. you talked about the winds of joe biden _ age and fitness. you talked about the winds of joe biden over- the winds ofjoe biden over the years, i was listening to a poster talking about this and he said it was important for the president not just to reference his record, but actually, to push it forward and make it clear to people how he is going to make their lives better, because that is what is playing so strongly at the moment. is that an assessment you would agree with? 100%, i think it is key when president biden tries to say all the jobs we created, all of this that we won, it does not resonate with voters and that is what polls are showing. they are still feeling the economy, inflation, and when they go to the gas pump or when they go to the store, to buy things, it is still very expensive. so he has to show that things are going to get better, i think the abortion issue is going to be very important. what he plans to do for americans over the last four years, that is something that president trump has not been very strong at. he is very strong at saying you are suffering, you are hurting, the country is a disaster. but he doesn't really have, other than immigration, disaster. but he doesn't really have, otherthan immigration, and these are very tough policies, he does not really have a vision. i think that is going to be important for americans.— think that is going to be important for americans. going forward. two tuick final for americans. going forward. two quick final thoughts, _ for americans. going forward. two quick final thoughts, how - for americans. going forward. two | quick final thoughts, how important first of all is likability in this debate? i first of all is likability in this debate? ~ , , debate? i think it is very important- _ debate? i think it is very important. you - debate? i think it is very important. you can i debate? i think it is very important. you can say. debate? i think it is very i important. you can say that it debate? i think it is very - important. you can say that it is all about the policies and the platform, but i think polls have shown, it really goes down to likability. president trump's supporters like him very much, whereas the undecided do not really like him or president biden. president biden supporters do not necessarily love him, theyjust kind of really dislike trump. i think likability is important, but this likability is important, but this likability is important, but this likability is also important in this campaign. likability is also important in this cam tai t n. ., likability is also important in this cam tatin. . ., campaign. one finalthought, in essence we _ campaign. one finalthought, in essence we have _ campaign. one finalthought, in essence we have got _ campaign. one finalthought, in essence we have got two i campaign. one finalthought, in i essence we have got two debates, people that watch it live and people that watch the clips on a news outlet or social media. that is really important, because those clickable moments, as anger, a gaffe, a put down, just something thatjumps out become so important, doesn't it? it thatjumps out become so important, doesn't it? ., , , doesn't it? it does become important. _ doesn't it? it does become important, but _ doesn't it? it does become important, but i _ doesn't it? it does become important, but i think- doesn't it? it does become i important, but i think people that watch the entire thing and want to see how they perform, it is going to be very important. do not forget, there is no microphone, so one will be speaking while the other is sitting there and president trump, you know, if his microphone is muted and he is still rambling, that is not a good look. if president biden isjust kind of not a good look. if president biden is just kind of quiet or look like he is about to fall asleep, that is not going to look good either. typically, i think you're right. but the fact that there is no microphone and both candidates might be shown during the whole thing, i think that is going to be very interesting to watch. ., , , ,., is going to be very interesting to watch. ., ,, ,., .., watch. perhaps something we could learn here having _ watch. perhaps something we could learn here having gone _ watch. perhaps something we could learn here having gone through i learn here having gone through several of these head to heads in recent days. thank you, perhaps we will talk again after the debate. thank you for your time. nhs england has warned of major disruption, particularly with the warmer weather putting extra pressure on services. the union is calling for 35% pay rise but labour and conservative say that is unaffordable. here's our correspondent. if these pictures on chance seem familiar, it is because you have probably seen and heard them before. this is the 11th time in junior doctors have walked out on strike in a dispute about pay. taste doctors have walked out on strike in a dispute about pay.— a dispute about pay. we want our work to be _ a dispute about pay. we want our work to be fairly _ a dispute about pay. we want our work to be fairly valued. - a dispute about pay. we want our work to be fairly valued. i - work to be fairly valued. i was often looking _ work to be fairly valued. i was often looking after _ work to be fairly valued. i was often looking after 300 i work to be fairly valued. i was| often looking after 300 people making — often looking after 300 people making £14 an hour.— often looking after 300 people making £14 an hour. patients are not tetttin the making £14 an hour. patients are not getting the treatment _ making £14 an hour. patients are not getting the treatment they _ making £14 an hour. patients are not getting the treatment they require, i getting the treatment they require, they are _ getting the treatment they require, they are dying — getting the treatment they require, they are dying on— getting the treatment they require, they are dying on waiting _ getting the treatment they require, they are dying on waiting lists, i getting the treatment they require, they are dying on waiting lists, thei they are dying on waiting lists, the only way— they are dying on waiting lists, the only way that — they are dying on waiting lists, the only way that we _ they are dying on waiting lists, the only way that we can't _ they are dying on waiting lists, the only way that we can't reverse i they are dying on waiting lists, the only way that we can't reverse thisj only way that we can't reverse this is to bring — only way that we can't reverse this is to bring back— only way that we can't reverse this is to bring back the _ only way that we can't reverse this is to bring back the doctors - only way that we can't reverse this is to bring back the doctors that i is to bring back the doctors that have _ is to bring back the doctors that have left — is to bring back the doctors that have left and _ is to bring back the doctors that have left and pay— is to bring back the doctors that have left and pay that _ is to bring back the doctors that have left and pay that doctors i have left and pay that doctors adequately _ have left and pay that doctors adequately-— have left and pay that doctors adetuatel . , ,., , adequately. there is something put to tood will adequately. there is something put to good will be _ adequately. there is something put to good will be different _ adequately. there is something put to good will be different about i adequately. there is something put to good will be different about this | to good will be different about this walk—out, the timing. it started at 7am this morning and will go on until the same time on tuesday morning, two days before polling day. there has been fairly pointed criticism of this, some health leaders and patient groups say there is no reason for the strikes to go ahead before the election. the main reason people strike is to persuade those in power to fix their problems, right now that is not even possible. even if the government suddenly decided to give the junior doctors everything they wanted, they would not be allowed, because there are rules about not bringing in major new policies ahead of an election. ~ ., , major new policies ahead of an election. ~ . , ., .,. major new policies ahead of an election. ~ . , ., .. ., election. we are trying to achieve a commitment _ election. we are trying to achieve a commitment from _ election. we are trying to achieve a commitment from rishi _ election. we are trying to achieve a commitment from rishi sunak, i election. we are trying to achieve a commitment from rishi sunak, sol election. we are trying to achieve a i commitment from rishi sunak, so yes, we can achieve it now, it is totally possible that he could come out and publicly commit in writing to his plan for pay restoration should he formed the next government. striking now tuts formed the next government. striking now puts the — formed the next government. striking now puts the issue _ formed the next government. striking now puts the issue of _ formed the next government. striking now puts the issue ofjunior _ formed the next government. striking now puts the issue ofjunior doctor i now puts the issue ofjunior doctor pay right at the top of the political agenda, pay right at the top of the politicalagenda, but pay right at the top of the political agenda, but already all the major parties have said that if they are elected they would immediately try to restart talks with the bma. i immediately try to restart talks with the bma.— immediately try to restart talks with the bma. i understand the trotest with the bma. i understand the protest and _ with the bma. i understand the protest and all _ with the bma. i understand the protest and all that, _ with the bma. i understand the protest and all that, but i with the bma. i understand the protest and all that, but you i with the bma. i understand the i protest and all that, but you might as well wait. i protest and all that, but you might as well wait-— protest and all that, but you might as well wait. i had an aneurysm last ear, the as well wait. i had an aneurysm last year, the operation _ as well wait. i had an aneurysm last year, the operation was _ as well wait. i had an aneurysm last year, the operation was delayed. i year, the operation was delayed. welliunior— year, the operation was delayed. welljunior doctors are out on picket lines, consultants will cover them, which means we can expect to tens of thousands of appointments to be postponed at a time when the system is already under pressure. tbs, system is already under pressure. and e has been very busy in recent months, and they saw record attendance in our emergency departments. we will prioritise those services but we will do that by moving senior doctors out of other work and that unfortunately means we will see disruption in our routine elective care. {lister means we will see disruption in our routine elective care. over the next five da s routine elective care. over the next five days of— routine elective care. over the next five days of strike _ routine elective care. over the next five days of strike action _ routine elective care. over the next five days of strike action the i five days of strike action the message for patients is that the nhs is still open for business, only use 999 in emergencies but otherwise contact health professionals in the usual way. the bbc has tracked on a people smuggler. for other people also died on the question that vessel, andrew explained how they knew they had found the man behind the fatal smuggling attempt. we were on a beach, a popular spot for smugglers to launch their small boats. we had a colleague who was in a police plane overhead, we had very good information about where the smugglers were planning to launch their boats. we waited until about 5:30 a:m., we had been waiting hours on this beach. suddenly, it felt like the entire beach erupted in front of us. ok, we are just running to catch up with some migrants. the police are trying to stop a small boat from leaving the shore. it turns violent. the police are failing. the boat is dangerously overloaded. it looks like the migrants who did get onto that boat are in trouble. look at the child on someone's shoulders. more than 100 people are trying to squeeze on board. somewhere in, a seven—year—old girl's last moments. it sounds like someone crying for help. it is something people talk about a great deal, the failure of the french police to intervene, they say legally it is difficult for them. they do not want to make things worse. what we did in the aftermath of that incident was tracked down sarah's father to talk to him, and frankly, to ask him how much guilt and responsibility he should take for putting his family and children at such peril. we wanted to go deeper, we wanted to find the smuggling gang responsible for that particular boat, our investigation took us from france to belgium, to the uk, to antwerp in northern belgium, and then finally to a migrant centre in the town, city of luxembourg. where we knew that the smuggler it was actually hiding out, he had gone on the run fearing that french police might be tracking him down. this was the moment that we caught up with him. excuse me, sir. from the bbc news. we know who you are, we are —— you are a smuggler. you are denying that? we understand you are still in business. ., ., that? we understand you are still in business.- you _ that? we understand you are still in business.- you are - that? we understand you are still in business.- you are still- that? we understand you are still in business.- you are still at i business. no, no. you are still at smuggling _ business. no, no. you are still at smuggling people _ business. no, no. you are still at smuggling people across - business. no, no. you are still at smuggling people across the i business. no, no. you are still at i smuggling people across the channel, we know 100% that you are responsible for the death of a seven—year—old, you put her on a boat and you took money from her parents, she and four other people died. ., ., ., ., we know died. no, not to me, not me. we know this is our man. — died. no, not to me, not me. we know this is our man, he _ died. no, not to me, not me. we know this is our man, he has _ died. no, not to me, not me. we know this is our man, he has confirmed i this is our men, he has confirmed the phone is his, he has confirmed the picture we got of him. we are going to let him go, there's not more we can do. this is the smuggler. the reason we were so confident we had the right man with because one of our team had been posing as a migrant for weeks and had been in contact directly with the smuggler, so we knew his phone number, we knew all the details about him. just then, as we were confronting him in those images you just saw, we phoned him again and he took his phone out of his pocket and we saw our phone number on his phone. so there was no doubt in our minds, and we have since informed the french investigators who are still looking into those five debts from april, they have said they have no comment at this stage. the investigation continues. sarah's mother and father and her two siblings, sister and brother, are currently essentially in limbo. the father was from iraq, he had come to belgium 15 years ago looking for work, he had not been given a registration, a right to stay. but it had taken such a long process that while he was still in europe he had gotten married, had three children. so there are three children all born in europe, educated in europe. no real links back to iraq but they had been told late last year, early this year, that they would be deported from europe. right now, they are living in a small village outside northern france. no schooling, no prospect of schooling, no sense of where they are going to end up. all hoping that somewhere in europe some government will take pity on them. at the moment, it looks very unclear what will happen to them. it is possible they will be deported to iraq. that amazing investigation... now, let's return the election campaign. we have been travelling around the country to listen to the issues that matter to voters as we have been seeing throughout the course of this afternoon. we have been in finchley and golden screen. samantha simmons is there for us. key marginal battleground here. this constituency has got the largest jewish voter ship of anywhere in the country. the way that the jewish population here boats really will matter to all three parties. back in 2019, laboured were pushed into third place here behind the liberal democrats during the ongoing jeremy corbyn anti—semitism controversy. i am joined now by the woman who stood for the liberal democrats mp. you had stood down as a labour mp under jeremy corbyn. now, you have rejoined the labour party recently, and you are now part of the team, not standing as an mp this time. why have you decided to rejoin? have you decided to re'oin? the labour party * have you decided to rejoin? the labour party today is completely unrecognisable from the labour party that i left— unrecognisable from the labour party that i left back in february of 2019 — that i left back in february of 2019 it _ that i left back in february of 2019 it is _ that i left back in february of 2019. it is completely turned around, _ 2019. it is completely turned around, due to the effort and work of keir_ around, due to the effort and work of keir starmer. keir around, due to the effort and work of keirstarmer. keirstarmer around, due to the effort and work of keir starmer. keir starmer has changed — of keir starmer. keir starmer has changed the labour party, it is now a party— changed the labour party, it is now a party i _ changed the labour party, it is now a party i am — changed the labour party, it is now a party i am proud of and have rejoined — a party i am proud of and have rejoined just over the course of the past year. — rejoined just over the course of the past year. i— rejoined just over the course of the past year, i did so in the week of the massive _ past year, i did so in the week of the massive amount of effort that has been — the massive amount of effort that has been done to rebuild what was awful— has been done to rebuild what was awful for— has been done to rebuild what was awful for too many people. keir awfulfor too many people. keir starmer put _ awfulfor too many people. keir starmer put that _ awfulfor too many people. keir starmer put that as _ awfulfor too many people. keir starmer put that as a _ awful for too many people. iiez " starmer put that as a key awful for too many people. i;;e: " starmer put that as a key pledge when he became leader, to crack down on any anti—semitism in the party. what would you say to jewish parties who are still concerned that perhaps there are still people within the fringes of the party or even not just on the fringes who do hold anti—semitic views and they are worried about that? in anti-semitic views and they are worried about that?— anti-semitic views and they are worried about that? in the wake of the findings _ worried about that? in the wake of the findings of _ worried about that? in the wake of the findings of the _ worried about that? in the wake of the findings of the equalities - worried about that? in the wake of the findings of the equalities and l the findings of the equalities and human— the findings of the equalities and human rights commission, under the leadership— human rights commission, under the leadership of keir starmer, the labour— leadership of keir starmer, the labour party i think made every effort, — labour party i think made every effort, not _ labour party i think made every effort, notjust in its words, we have _ effort, notjust in its words, we have heard _ effort, notjust in its words, we have heard words consistently from keir starmer, but in terms of the actions _ keir starmer, but in terms of the actions that — keir starmer, but in terms of the actions that it took to turn the party— actions that it took to turn the party around. it is very significant that at— party around. it is very significant that at this — party around. it is very significant that at this election, for example, jeremy— that at this election, for example, jeremy corbyn is not standing as a labour— jeremy corbyn is not standing as a labour candidate. that is reflective of the _ labour candidate. that is reflective of the effort that is put into make sure that — of the effort that is put into make sure that at all levels of the party that if— sure that at all levels of the party that if anyone dismissed the findings _ that if anyone dismissed the findings of the equalities human rights _ findings of the equalities human rights commission report, if they found _ rights commission report, if they found the — rights commission report, if they found the labour party to have broken — found the labour party to have broken the equality act underjeremy corbyn _ broken the equality act underjeremy corbyn that there was no place for them _ corbyn that there was no place for them in _ corbyn that there was no place for them in the — corbyn that there was no place for them in the labour party. we cannot be complacent, and i do not think anyone _ be complacent, and i do not think anyone is, — be complacent, and i do not think anyone is, and that includes keir starmer — anyone is, and that includes keir starmer. there is always work to do, we have _ starmer. there is always work to do, we have to _ starmer. there is always work to do, we have to be — starmer. there is always work to do, we have to be vigilant, particularly when _ we have to be vigilant, particularly when we _ we have to be vigilant, particularly when we know there has been a massive — when we know there has been a massive increase in anti—jewish hatred — massive increase in anti—jewish hatred across the country, not confined — hatred across the country, not confined to just one political party — confined to just one political party i— confined to just one political party. ijudge keir starmer on his actions _ party. ijudge keir starmer on his actions and — party. ijudge keir starmer on his actions and his actions prove he has made _ actions and his actions prove he has made every— actions and his actions prove he has made every effort to turn the party around _ made every effort to turn the party around and — made every effort to turn the party around and he has changed the labour party _ around and he has changed the labour pa . r . ., ., , around and he has changed the labour pa. around and he has changed the labour pa .�* ., party. anecdotally, when you hear from jewish _ party. anecdotally, when you hear from jewish people, _ party. anecdotally, when you hear from jewish people, there - party. anecdotally, when you hear from jewish people, there are - party. anecdotally, when you hear| from jewish people, there are also those with concerns saying look, keir starmer it was still working with jeremy corbyn keir starmer it was still working withjeremy corbyn until the bitter end, so he also has to take some blame for what happened. irate end, so he also has to take some blame for what happened. we have within all political— blame for what happened. we have within all political parties, - within all political parties, including labour, something called cottective _ including labour, something called collective responsibility. keir starmer _ collective responsibility. keir starmer it was in the shadow cabin and at _ starmer it was in the shadow cabin and at the — starmer it was in the shadow cabin and at the time and when you have that role, _ and at the time and when you have that role, you have collective responsibility, you have a job to do to do— responsibility, you have a job to do to do with — responsibility, you have a job to do to do with the party in leadership says _ to do with the party in leadership says we — to do with the party in leadership says. we heard from kier about the things— says. we heard from kier about the things that — says. we heard from kier about the things that he did behind the scenes. _ things that he did behind the scenes, it required people to make lots of— scenes, it required people to make lots of different decisions at the time, _ lots of different decisions at the time, to— lots of different decisions at the time, to take the party and turn it around _ time, to take the party and turn it around to— time, to take the party and turn it around to get us to where we are today _ around to get us to where we are today we — around to get us to where we are today. we are on the cusp of a general— today. we are on the cusp of a general election next week. the labour— general election next week. the labour party has changed, now it is the job— labour party has changed, now it is the job to _ labour party has changed, now it is the job to change the country. that is what _ the job to change the country. that is what we — the job to change the country. that is what we will do to change the country— is what we will do to change the country under keir starmer. there was a rise — country under keir starmer. there was a rise in _ country under keir starmer. there was a rise in anti-jewish _ country under keir starmer. there was a rise in anti-jewish hatred i country under keir starmer. there l was a rise in anti-jewish hatred and was a rise in anti—jewish hatred and as i'm a phobia since october seven, and the ongoing gaza war, what would you say to those who also look at labour's policy towards israel and its views on a future palestinian state and have concerns from both sides of the agenda? i state and have concerns from both sides of the agenda?— sides of the agenda? i live very close to the — sides of the agenda? i live very close to the pulling _ sides of the agenda? i live very close to the pulling of- sides of the agenda? i live very close to the pulling of the - sides of the agenda? i live very. close to the pulling of the jewish community that has come out in recent— community that has come out in recent days, and i listen to it the jewish— recent days, and i listen to it the jewish community things. like all communities, it is not homogenous, there _ communities, it is not homogenous, there is— communities, it is not homogenous, there is not— communities, it is not homogenous, there is not one single view, first and foremost i think the jewish community like all communities in this country wants to see things change — this country wants to see things change domestically. we are in a bit of a pickle _ change domestically. we are in a bit of a pickle and this country desperately requires change. there is interest— desperately requires change. there is interest in what happens in international affairs and advance, i think— international affairs and advance, i think the _ international affairs and advance, i think the labour party has been very consistent— think the labour party has been very consistent in its position, what it has set _ consistent in its position, what it has set out — consistent in its position, what it has set out which is in the manifesto and has featured, not just this year— manifesto and has featured, not just this year but previous years as well, — this year but previous years as well, about recognising both a safe and secure — well, about recognising both a safe and secure israel alongside a viable and secure israel alongside a viable and contiguous palestinian state as part of— and contiguous palestinian state as part of a _ and contiguous palestinian state as part of a negotiated two state solution _ part of a negotiated two state solution. , ;, part of a negotiated two state solution. , ., ., , ., solution. very grateful for your time. solution. very grateful for your time- that _ solution. very grateful for your time. that is _ solution. very grateful for your time. that is it _ solution. very grateful for your time. that is it for— solution. very grateful for your time. that is it for me - solution. very grateful for your time. that is it for me for - solution. very grateful for your time. that is it for me for the i time. that is it for me for the moment, you can get a full list of all the candidates standing in this constituency on the bbc news website and on your screen. i will be back laterfrom here, and now back to matthew in the studio. later from here, and now back to matthew in the studio.— later from here, and now back to matthew in the studio. once again, thank ou matthew in the studio. once again, thank you very _ matthew in the studio. once again, thank you very much. _ matthew in the studio. once again, thank you very much. now, - matthew in the studio. once again, thank you very much. now, the - matthew in the studio. once again, thank you very much. now, the big| thank you very much. now, the big name acts will take to the stages at glastonbury from tomorrow. they've had some glorious weather to kick—start the festival. our entertainment correspondent colin paterson is there for us — and sent this. emily, last week you are producing that mike i would ask you which you would prefer but it looks pretty fabulous. it would prefer but it looks pretty fabulous. , , , would prefer but it 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and humid air away. in fact, for some, it feels more like autumn than summer, as this unseasonably deep area of low pressure approaches northern ireland and scotland. outbreaks of rain developing here as we head towards the end of the day. quite windy, particularly around some of the coasts. further south and east, largely dry, some spells of sunshine, some warmth holding on for a time in eastern england. but these are the temperatures we can expect for the end of the afternoon, 13 in stornoway, 23 in norwich and london. and then, as we head into the evening, while these outbreaks of rain push across northern ireland into western parts of scotland, wind gusts of 40, a5, maybe 50mph. so blustery through the evening across the northern half of the uk. furthersouth, more in the way of dry weather. some clear spells to take us into friday morning. temperatures generally holding up in double digits for most of us, but not as humid as it was last night across some southern and eastern parts. tomorrow, a day of sunny spells and showers, really, the showers, most plentiful across the northern half of the uk. could be some really heavy, thundery ones in the north east of scotland. still not feeling too bad if you get yourself into some sunshine. temperatures across south—eastern parts of england up to around 22 celsius. more like 16 for glasgow, 17 celsius there in belfast, though certainly cooler than it has been for many. into the weekend, though, we'll continue to see some spells of sunshine. where you get into some sunshine, although temperatures will be a bit lower than they have been, it will still feel relatively warm. however, a bit of rain in the outlook as well. this frontal system pushing in from the west will bring cloud and some splashes of rain, perhapsjust fringing into northern ireland, but more especially getting into parts of north wales, northern england, that cloud sinking its way a little bit further southwards. but towards the south east of england, actually, things turning a little warmer and more humid again. 2a, 25 celsius, some sunshine in the north of scotland, although here it will feel a little chillier. and actually on sunday, in scotland, we could see one or two showers, a fair amount of cloud elsewhere. i think the best of the sunshine down towards the south of england. even here, just the chance of the odd rogue shower. temperatures north to south between 13 and 21 celsius. live from london, this is bbc news. one this is bbc news. person in england dies link to the one person in england dies link to the ongoing e. coli outbreak. we will bring you the latest. police say seven officers so far are being investigated over bets on the timing of the general election. meanwhile, the prime minister said he is leaving the betting investigation to the authorities. it’s leaving the betting investigation to the authorities.— the authorities. it's 'ust not right for me to say h the authorities. it'sjust not right for me to say anything _ the authorities. it'sjust not right for me to say anything more i the authorities. it'sjust not right i for me to say anything more about that but if anyone has broken the rules, of course they should face the full consequences of the law and i will ensure they are booted out of the party. the stage is set. joe biden and donald trump prepare for their first tv debate a little later ahead of the us presidential election. what the us presidential election. what do we want? _ the us presidential election. what do we want? pay _ the us presidential election. what do we want? pay restoration! i the us presidential election. what i do we want? pay restoration! junior doctors in england _ do we want? pay restoration! junior doctors in england take _ do we want? pay restoration! junior doctors in england take part - do we want? pay restoration! junior doctors in england take part in i doctors in england take part in another five—day strike in their long—running pay dispute. hello and welcome to bbc news. let's start with a breaking news of the last hour or so. the uk health security agency says one person has died in england linked to the ongoing e. coli outbreak. nationwide, there have been 275 confirmed cases of e. coli to date. health correspondence nick our health correspondence nick triggle has the latest.— our health correspondence nick triggle has the latest. well, we've been reporting _ triggle has the latest. well, we've been reporting on _ triggle has the latest. well, we've been reporting on this _ triggle has the latest. well, we've been reporting on this e. - triggle has the latest. well, we've been reporting on this e. coli i been reporting on this e. coli outbreak for three weeks now. this outbreak for three weeks now. this outbreak is linked to the pre—packaged damages that can be bought in supermarkets and shops. the latest update, the uk health security agency have reported 19 more cases. it brings the total across the uk to 275 identified. half of those have ended up in hospital, although the rate of new cases is beginning to drop now. there has been two deaths actually within 28 days of an infection but only one of those deaths is being linked as a probably caused by the e. coli infection. we don't know anything about that person except they did have underlying health problems. pond they did have underlying health roblems. �* , ., ., . problems. and in terms of advice, what are they _ problems. and in terms of advice, what are they saying? _ problems. and in terms of advice, what are they saying? e. - problems. and in terms of advice, what are they saying? e. coli i problems. and in terms of advice, what are they saying? e. coli is i problems. and in terms of advice, what are they saying? e. coli is a l what are they saying? e. coli is a bacteria that _ what are they saying? e. coli is a bacteria that lives _ what are they saying? e. coli is a bacteria that lives in _ what are they saying? e. coli is a bacteria that 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election campaign. the number of metropolitan police officers suspected of placing bets on the timing of the election has risen to seven. one of them, a member of rishi sunak�*s close protection team, has already been arrested and suspended. scotland yard says it's also investigating a small number of cases where it's possible that offences, including misconduct in public office may have been committed. the prime minister has been speaking again about the furore over his aide, craig williams, who has admitted placing a "flutter" on a july election. let's hear that exchange. where anyone has broken the rules, they should face the full consequences of the law, whether that is the gambling commission of —— or the police, and i will also ensure that they are booted out of the conservative party. did you tell craig williams, a man you said you were with almost every minute of every day, the date of the election before he put the bet on? sam, i have been clear about this, i am curious —— furious to have learnt about the allegations, we have initiated internal inquiries, because i don't have access to the gambling commission's details, we have suspended candidates. whilst there are ongoing investigations, as you said yourself, the police also involved, it is not right for me to say anything more about that. but if anyone has broken the rules, of course they should face the full consequences of the law, and i will ensure they are booted out of the conservative party. you know whether you told craig williams, you cannot prejudice an investigation, you can absolutely can answer this question? it is not right, while there are ongoing investigations, that there was compromised in any way, shape orform, they are rightly confidential, they are rightly confidential, and it's important that they stay that way, and that is the right thing to do, and you know that, you know that. we have done internal inquiries of our own... this is not true... you can only prejudice a jury trial, you know— you can only prejudice a jury trial, you know the answer to the question whether— you know the answer to the question whether or— you know the answer to the question whether or not you told craig williams. _ whether or not you told craig williams, yes or no. we have done internal inquiries of our own... inquiries of our own, and as a result of those have suspended candidates. i have been clear that anyone who has broken the rules should face the full consequences of the law, i will ensure they are booted out of the party, and whilst there are ongoing independent investigations, including, as you said, by the police, it is important those matters proceed properly. the prime minister talking a little earlier. a reminder on that story. the conservatives withdrew their support for craig williams earlier this week, following news he is under investigation by the gambling commission over that bets placed on the timing of the election. mr williams has said he committed an error ofjudgment, not an offence and has apologised to voters. at last night's bbc election debate, rishi sunak and keir starmer clashed over what the prime minister called labour's retirement tax. we analyse that particular _ labour's retirement tax. we analyse that particular claim. _ labour's retirement tax. we analyse that particular claim. in _ labour's retirement tax. we analyse that particular claim. in last - labour's retirement tax. we analyse that particular claim. in last night i that particular claim. in last night because my debate, rishi sunak claimed that under a future labour government, for the first time in our country�* history, the state pension will be subject to a retirement tax under labour. what does this mean, is it accurate and fair? first, let�*s break down the basis for the claim. pensioners rely link solely on the new state pension, shown by this yellow line here, are on course to potentially pay a small amount of income tax in 2027-28 pay a small amount of income tax in 2027—28 because the state pension in that year is forecast to marginally overtake the tax—free personal allowance, shown in black, at around £12,570. in that year, as you can see, the new conservative triple lock plus policy would raise the personal allowance of pensioners to £13,710 by 2027-28, personal allowance of pensioners to £13,710 by 2027—28, shown by this red line. this would remove the risk of tax being due. the pensioner had personal allowance would be higher than the state pension in that year and in future years. labour hasn�*t said it would match this policy, so thatis said it would match this policy, so that is the basis for the tory claim labour would tax the state pension or so—called retirement tax, but note, the conservatives sony unveiled this policy within the last couple of weeks. so to present this as a planned labour tax rises a bit disingenuous. and bear in mind that they can conservatives�*s triple lock would only save someone living solely on state pension around £29 a year by 2030. furthermore, despite what rishi sunak said about the first time in history, some people are already paying tax on part of their state pension. analysis of government data by the former lib dems pensions minister steve webb, who works for an actuary firm, found around 2.5 million pensioners, around 2.5 million pensioners, around one in five of the total, are currently paying income tax on a portion of their state pension and would still be doing so even if the triple lock plus were introduced. how can that be? because many people receive additional state pension payment due to their participation in the old state earnings —related pensions scheme which already takes them over the personal allowance. so them over the personal allowance. so the reality on the state pension and tax is rather more complex than rishi sunak suggested last night. with a week to go until election day, all the parties will know they�*re running out of time to shift public opinion. but how should that �*opinion�* be measured? we have been looking at polling over the last four or five weeks. one technique is to use polling that based on voters�* �*gut instinct�* — measuring emotional responses to a policy or idea. joining me to explain how this works isjoe twyman, the co—founder of deltapoll. welcome to the programme. i am fascinated by this whole area because we are used to polling but this is slightly different. it is based on emotional responses so tell me more about how you measure these things. me more about how you measure these thins. ;, , me more about how you measure these thins. ., , ., i; things. that is right, anyone involved with _ things. that is right, anyone i involved with communications, whether political or broadcasting communications, no you don�*tjust need to connect with someone on an intellectual level, it really helps if you can connect on an emotional level. and measuring that emotional collection can provide real insight into some of the policies that are announced by the various parties in their manifestos because it is one thing to have a policy that is popular when people are asked in the artificial construct of a survey instrument whether they support or oppose it but it is something different entirely to see whether that actually emotionally connects with people. that is what we do at deltapoll without emotional resonance scoring. just explain that. am resonance scoring. just explain that- am i— resonance scoring. just explain that. am | right _ resonance scoring. just explain that. am i right in _ resonance scoring. just explain that. am i right in saying i resonance scoring. just explain that. am i right in saying it - resonance scoring. just explain that. am i right in saying it is l that. am i right in saying it is about the speed of the response? you ask a question, as all pollsters do, and am i right in saying it's about the speed of the response that gives you a clue about the depth of the feeling? you a clue about the depth of the feelin: ? ,, . , you a clue about the depth of the feelina? ,, . , , , , you a clue about the depth of the feelina? ,, . , , , h, feeling? essentially, yes. it is a preprietary _ feeling? essentially, yes. it is a proprietary calibrated _ feeling? essentially, yes. it is a proprietary calibrated speed - feeling? essentially, yes. it is a proprietary calibrated speed of| proprietary calibrated speed of response to look notjust at the speeds in response but how it relates to their other responses across the various different measures that we take. 50 the idea is, daniel talked about theirs when he talked about system one and system to thinking, the idea is the faster you respond, the greater your emotional resonance is. it is inevitably slightly more complicated than that. i inevitably slightly more complicated than that. . ., ., :: than that. i will come to the 2024 cam aiun than that. i will come to the 2024 campaign in _ than that. i will come to the 2024 campaign in the _ than that. i will come to the 2024 campaign in the moment - than that. i will come to the 2024 campaign in the moment but - campaign in the moment but historically, you have used this technique since the leave campaign and brexit and other elections, so give me some examples in the past about the kind of measurements you have had on policy announcements. the really good example was during the refugee crisis, first from syria and then ukraine. in conventional polling, including the polling at deltapoll, when people asked, would you be willing to have a refugee staying at your home, which is an interesting issue on two occasions, we found that around 10% of people said yes to that. that was true across the polling that was done, notjust by us. but when you go beyond that and do emotional resonance scoring, you find the people that say they are willing to have someone come as a refugee to their house, they are not particularly certain of it on an emotional level. they don't really connect with that idea emotionally. but those people who said they were not willing to have someone in the house worth far more emotionally engaged with that idea. expand that to the brexit referendum and we found that the emotional connection to the leave messages around take back control were twice that of the remain campaign and project fear. so that helps to understand why those messages proved so powerful among that particular voter base. now of course we have a general election where all of the parties are attempting to emotionally connect notjust attempting to emotionally connect not just with their supporters attempting to emotionally connect notjust with their supporters but with the country generally... i willi with the country generally... i will come to 2024 _ with the country generally... i will come to 2024 in _ with the country generally... i will come to 2024 in a _ with the country generally... i will come to 2024 in a moment. - with the country generally. .. i will come to 2024 in a moment. i - with the country generally... i will come to 2024 in a moment. ijust want to read out quote from the colleague martin bruno you work with. he said the biggest lie pollsters like me have told politicians for a generation as most people are committed to sending more of their money to bottomless health pit. that is a really interesting quote because for many elections, the liberal democrats, amongst others, committing an extra amount of money on income tax to the nhs and it was always thought that people perhaps wanted to fix public services and were willing to pay more but that suggests that didn't fit with the sort of polling that he did? ~ �* , ., ., fit with the sort of polling that he did? �*, ., ., did? well, it's not that people don't support _ did? well, it's not that people don't support it _ did? well, it's not that people don't support it because - did? well, it's not that people don't support it because they l did? well, it's not that people i don't support it because they do. but the idea that this is actually something people strongly connect with is not backed up with our data. so what it demonstrates is if you are looking at that as a winning message, if that is the policy you are pinning your electoral hopes on, you may find you are very much disappointed because there are other policies that may not achieve the same level of agreement but do get a much higher emotional connection. so when it comes to actually activating people to vote or change their behaviour or go out to campaign, for instance, it's those emotionally connected stories and messages which can be a really powerful. so a connected stories and messages which can be a really powerful.— can be a really powerful. so a final thouuht can be a really powerful. so a final thought on — can be a really powerful. so a final thought on this _ can be a really powerful. so a final thought on this election _ thought on this election campaign, what has scored well in the way that your la describing this emotional measurement and what hasn't? we tested measurement and what hasn't? , tested three of the major policies from each of the labour, lib dems and conservative manifestos. of those we tested, the most popular came from the lib dems, providing free personal care in england the elderly and disabled people. a score of 69 out of 100, which is very high. but most interesting to me was around national service. support for that was only 34% but an emotional resonance score of 42. compare that to reducing the rate of national insurance by 2p on a pound, 63% of people supported that but that had a lower emotional score, just 40 out of 100. that suggests to me that yes, nationalservice of 100. that suggests to me that yes, national service might not be the most popular policy but among those that do support it, they really like it and emotionally connect with it. who was that group? the conservative core vote and that is why the policy was announced, we assume. . , is why the policy was announced, we assume. ., , ., ,. ., , assume. really fascinating, this whole area- _ assume. really fascinating, this whole area. we _ assume. really fascinating, this whole area. we have _ assume. really fascinating, this whole area. we have got - assume. really fascinating, this whole area. we have got so - assume. really fascinating, this | whole area. we have got so used assume. really fascinating, this - whole area. we have got so used to talking about polling more generally but a very specific area that is very interesting. thank you for joining us on the programme and explaining a bit more about that, thank you. let's get back on the campaign trailand speak thank you. let's get back on the campaign trail and speak to helen catt stop helen is with the conservative campaign. we were just playing the clip of rishi sunak asked questions by journalists about specifically time and again whether he told his aide craig williams about the date of the election and no clear answer from rishi sunak, talking about the authority is rightly investigating and he wasn't going to comment further. but the noise around this whole gambling scandal is simply not going away, is it? it whole gambling scandal is simply not going away. is it?— going away, is it? it hasn't and you can see that _ going away, is it? it hasn't and you can see that from _ going away, is it? it hasn't and you can see that from the _ going away, is it? it hasn't and you can see that from the fact - going away, is it? it hasn't and you can see that from the fact that - going away, is it? it hasn't and you can see that from the fact that he i can see that from the fact that he is still being asked about it, as you saw there in that clip. but this morning, actually, it felt like a sort of more positive day on the campaign trailfor the campaign trail for the conservatives. they certainly felt pretty boyd this morning after the performance in the debate last night and today has been a day about business policy. there have been a series of visits intended to highlight that, including a visit to the denby pottery in derbyshire, where he did one of those staff 0 and a thing is we have got used to seeing both him and keir starmer doing. what was quite interesting as we could see the conservative messaging, how it is being deployed in the run—up to polling day next week. some of those things that work very well for him on the tv debate last night, where he thought he really got to sir keir starmer a bit cornered on things like tax and things like this accusation that he says keir starmer, you don't know what you are going to get with him that he felt worked well, he was using in this question and answer session as well and it was notable quite a lot of his speech was mainly focused on attacking labour. so that was quite interesting to see that in direct contact with voters. i spoke to a view of them afterwards and actually, those i spoke to were not too sure about that as a strategy in that format. some said to me, he has come here to speak to us. actually, we wanted to know what he is going to do for us not what labour won't do. i spoke to another guy who had said that he liked the sound of the tax cuts but actually, he didn't have the confidence that they would happen, that they would come. it was quite interesting. the other thing that was quite notable about it is it felt like a more probing q&a than we have seen on some of these visits, that workers there seemed keen to put him on the spot a little bit more and things like the nhs. about things like the use of food banks and about pensions, which he was speaking about a little bit earlier. one worker they are raising theissue earlier. one worker they are raising the issue of not the state pension but pensioners who are working pensioners and the fact they get taxed on their income away from the state pension as well. it was quite an interesting thing to watch and to see that that messaging, the strategy the conservatives will be deploying right up until polling day in direct contact with voters this morning. it in direct contact with voters this morninu. , , ., ., ~ morning. it is interesting looking at the strategy. _ morning. it is interesting looking at the strategy, helen, - morning. it is interesting looking at the strategy, helen, because | morning. it is interesting looking i at the strategy, helen, because you are right and we saw it last night, that attack line on labour. it is being honed, it is about tax, it is about surrender. what i don't understand about the strategy is in a sense they are not really going after rishi sunak reform uk and yet they are haemorrhaging votes to reform uk. what is the thinking about that? i reform uk. what is the thinking about that?— reform uk. what is the thinking about that? ~ , , , about that? i think in some senses, what we saw _ about that? i think in some senses, what we saw last _ about that? i think in some senses, what we saw last night _ about that? i think in some senses, what we saw last night with - about that? i think in some senses, what we saw last night with the - what we saw last night with the messaging around surrendering to labour, it's to give their base a reason to come out and vote for them. that is quite a way of trying to motivate those core conservative voters, this idea that it is giving them to a reason to go out and go if you say don't surrender to labour, that it you say don't surrender to labour, thatitis you say don't surrender to labour, that it is an active thing they can go out and do. so i think it is probably that is who that is aimed at. we have got to that point of the election of course where we are now just, we are seeing the parties keep ramming home the same messages. they have decided on the final strategy and they will keep pushing those messages home right up until polling day. messages home right up until polling da . . day. helen catt with the conservatives, - day. helen catt with the conservatives, thanks i day. helen catt with the i conservatives, thanks very day. helen catt with the - conservatives, thanks very much. that was helen out on the campaign trail. head to the live page on the website because there it is, all the very latest. you can see the met update that we got a little earlier that daniel sandford was taking us through. we are there, our teams are with all the major parties on the campaign trailand of with all the major parties on the campaign trail and of course it is only a week to go before polling day. so head over to that for the latest and it is on the bbc news app also. two other news now. a court has heard how an undercover police officer has said he feared there was an "imminent threat" to holly willoughby after pictures of her were posted in an online group called 'abduct lovers'. gavin plumb is accused of using a messaging app to find others to help him abduct, rape and murder the tv presenter. our correspondent, lizo mzimba has been in court and sent this update. this undercover police officer known as the pseudonym dave nelson said he joined this group, he had been investigating this sort of area for around three years and he said that gavin plumb's comments on there really did alert him. they said they were not typical of the kind of comments you found on abduct lovers and he felt there was an imminent threat to holly willoughby at that time. he was cross—examined by gavin plumb's barrister and she asked him about one particular area. he said to gavin plumb on some instant messaging, on the app, sorry, dumb question, didn't know if you are looking for help or what. so she suggested that in fact the undercover officer was a first person to suggest that gavin plumb should have the officer help him in his plan. the officer replied, "it was an open—ended question. it was at this point i was trying to understand what his motives were." he was shown a picture of gavin plumb from a video he had sent him on the app and said if he looked significantly overweight. the undercover officer agreed that he did to look overweight and again, the barrister said, did that not cause him to re—evaluate his plan, where at one point gavin plumb had talked about, we leap over the outer wall of holly willoughby�*s house. the officer again said no, it did not cause him to re—evaluate his plan. he will continue giving evidence this afternoon. gavin plumb does all the charges. junior doctors in england have begun another five—day strike in their long—running pay dispute with the government. it's the 11th walkout since march of last year. nhs england has warned of major disruption, particularly with the warmer weather putting extra pressure on its services. their union, the british medical association, is calling for a phased 35 percent pay rise. both labour and the conservatives say that is unaffordable. our health correspondent, catherine burns reports. what do we want? pay restoration! if these pictures and these chanting calls seem familiar it's probably because you have seen and heard them before. this is the 11th time junior doctors in england have walked out on strike in a dispute about pay. we want on strike in a dispute about pay. , want our work to be fairly valued and one metric of that is the renumeration we receive. when i started, renumeration we receive. when i started. it _ renumeration we receive. when i started, it was _ renumeration we receive. when i started, it was £14 _ renumeration we receive. when i started, it was £14 an _ renumeration we receive. when i started, it was £14 an hour- renumeration we receive. when i started, it was £14 an hour and i | started, it was £14 an hour and i was off— started, it was £14 an hour and i was off and _ started, it was £14 an hour and i was off and looking after 300 people alone overnight on the wards. patients — alone overnight on the wards. patients are not getting the treatment— patients are not getting the treatment they— patients are not getting the treatment they require, i patients are not getting the i treatment they require, they are dying _ treatment they require, they are dying on— treatment they require, they are dying on waiting _ treatment they require, they are dying on waiting lists. _ treatment they require, they are dying on waiting lists. the - treatment they require, they are dying on waiting lists. the only. treatment they require, they are i dying on waiting lists. the only way we can— dying on waiting lists. the only way we can reverse _ dying on waiting lists. the only way we can reverse this, _ dying on waiting lists. the only way we can reverse this, bring - dying on waiting lists. the only way we can reverse this, bring back- dying on waiting lists. the only way we can reverse this, bring back the| we can reverse this, bring back the doctors _ we can reverse this, bring back the doctors who— we can reverse this, bring back the doctors who have _ we can reverse this, bring back the doctors who have left _ we can reverse this, bring back the doctors who have left our - we can reverse this, bring back the doctors who have left our country, | doctors who have left our country, is paying _ doctors who have left our country, is paying them _ doctors who have left our country, is paying them adequately. - doctors who have left our country, is paying them adequately. but i doctors who have left our country, is paying them adequately. but there is paying them adequately. but there is something — is paying them adequately. but there is something different _ is paying them adequately. but there is something different about - is paying them adequately. but there is something different about this i is something different about this particular walked out, the timing. it started at 7.00 this morning and will go on until the same time on tuesday morning, a mere two days before polling day. there has been fairly pointed criticism of theirs, some health leaders and patient groups say there is no reason for these strikes to go ahead before the election. overworked, underpaid! the main reason people strike is to persuade those in power to fix their problems. right now, that is not even possible. even if the government suddenly decided to give thejunior government suddenly decided to give the junior doctors everything they wanted, they wouldn't be allowed because there are rules about not bringing in major new policies ahead of an election. bringing in ma'or new policies ahead of an election.— of an election. what we're trying to achieve is a — of an election. what we're trying to achieve is a commitment _ of an election. what we're trying to achieve is a commitment from i of an election. what we're trying to | achieve is a commitment from rishi sunak. so yes, we can achieve it now. it is totally possible. he could come out and publicly commit in writing to his plan for pay restoration should he form the next government. restoration should he form the next government-— restoration should he form the next covernment. , ~ ., government. either way, striking now uts the government. either way, striking now puts the issue — government. either way, striking now puts the issue of _ government. either way, striking now puts the issue ofjunior _ government. either way, striking now puts the issue ofjunior doctor - government. either way, striking now puts the issue ofjunior doctor pay i puts the issue ofjunior doctor pay right at the top of the political agenda. but already all the major parties have said if they are elected, they would immediately try to restart talks with the bma. i understand the protests and all that sort thing but you might as well wait. i sort thing but you might as well wait. . . sort thing but you might as well wait. ., ., ., , , , wait. i had an aneurysm in my leg last ear wait. i had an aneurysm in my leg last year and _ wait. i had an aneurysm in my leg last year and it — wait. i had an aneurysm in my leg last year and it delayed _ wait. i had an aneurysm in my leg last year and it delayed the i last year and it delayed the operation but i still fully support the doctors-— operation but i still fully support the doctors. while 'unior doctors are on the doctors. while 'unior doctors on picket _ the doctors. while junior doctors are on picket lines, _ the doctors. while junior doctors are on picket lines, consultantsl are on picket lines, consultants will cover them which means we can expect tens of thousands of appointments to be postponed, at a time when the system is already under pressure.— time when the system is already under pressure. a&e has been very bus in under pressure. a&e has been very busy in recent _ under pressure. a&e has been very busy in recent months. _ under pressure. a&e has been very busy in recent months. may - under pressure. a&e has been very busy in recent months. may saw i busy in recent months. may saw record attendances and are emergency departments but we will prioritise those services but we will do that by moving senior doctors out of other work and that unfortunately means we will see disruption in our routine and elective care. {lister means we will see disruption in our routine and elective care.— routine and elective care. over the next five days _ routine and elective care. over the next five days of _ routine and elective care. over the next five days of strike _ routine and elective care. over the next five days of strike action, i routine and elective care. over the next five days of strike action, the | next five days of strike action, the message for patients is the nhs is still open for business. only use 999 in emergencies but otherwise, contact health professionals in the usual way. catherine burns, contact health professionals in the usualway. catherine burns, bbc news. donald trump and joe biden are preparing to go head to head in the race for the white house. later this evening they'll take part in the first of two planned televised presidential debates. it's also the first such meeting since donald trump became a convicted felon. our north america editor sarah smith, looks at what we can expect in this high stakes meet—up. two old rivals will go head—to—head in the presidential debate. brute two old rivals will go head-to-head in the presidential debate.- in the presidential debate. we have been here before. _ in the presidential debate. we have been here before. will— in the presidential debate. we have been here before. will you - in the presidential debate. we have been here before. will you shut- in the presidential debate. we have been here before. will you shut up! this rematch with trump and biden facing off once again is a high—stakes battle for both men. they will not hesitate to attack their opponents' because points. like in recent campaign ads, buy will highlight trump' criminal conviction. the first to be found guilty of a federal crime. trump will try and exploit biden' age, republicans accuse him of being too old mentally unfit even though trump only four years younger. the debate in 2020 were available free for all with both men arguing over each other. if they tried at this time, we won't hear them. cnn has agreed strict rules, microphones will be muted when each candidate is not talking. they can bring in very few pre—written notes. neither man can consult with their teams, not even during the two commercial breaks and there is no studio audience. immigration, inflation, this is what american voters say they care about most. issues on which president biden and former president trump profoundly disagree. but on this particular occasion, personality will matter much more than policy. joe biden will have to appear vigorous and energetic to allay concerns about his age. donald trump will need to diss maturity. they are both trying to win over some very disillusioned voters and say they don't really want to vote for either of these men. our north america correspondentjohn sudworth is at the debate venue in atlanta. he's been setting the scene for us. iam in i am in the pavilion, this stadium is normally host to the power and pace of basketball games, a stark contrast with what we are going to see tonight, as america's oldest ever presidential candidates go head to head in a very controlled environment. this is going to be a debate in which there is no audience at all in the studio. it is going to be one in which while each candidate is speaking, the other has their microphone turned off. a real effort by cnn to try to avoid some of the more sort of rowdy elements of previous years, with candidates talking over each other. the big question is: whose advantage all that work to? in some cases it may contain donald trump and the sort of style we are used to from him, which may give president biden a little bit more space. on the other hand, it may help president trump, former president trump, if indeed his mission here is to appear more measured and presidential. perhaps the format will suit him as well. what cnn are hoping is we get a lot more substance at the heart of it all and a lot more focus on the policy issues you have just mentioned. policy issues you have 'ust mentionedi policy issues you have 'ust mentioned. ~ , ., , ~ mentioned. we shall see. a quick word about _ mentioned. we shall see. a quick word about the _ mentioned. we shall see. a quick word about the polls _ mentioned. we shall see. a quick word about the polls going i mentioned. we shall see. a quick word about the polls going into i mentioned. we shall see. a quick. word about the polls going into the debate, as we stand now? iirat’eii. debate, as we stand now? well, re debate, as we stand now? well, pretty much _ debate, as we stand now? well, pretty much neck _ debate, as we stand now? well, pretty much neck and _ debate, as we stand now? well, pretty much neck and neck. i debate, as we stand now? -ii pretty much neck and neck. donald trump has a slight edge in some of those key marginal states but only a slight edge. i think that is why we are having this debate now, matthew. this is far earlier in the electoral cycle than we're used to having these presidential debates. it is a sign that both candidates know they really need to do something to shift the needle. that was jon sudworth in that wasjon sudworth in atlanta. welcome if you are justjoining that wasjon sudworth in atlanta. welcome if you arejustjoining us on bbc news. it is 4.30. let's turn to oui’ our main headlines here. a seven—year—old girl has died in channel crossing. we will hear more. the police say seven officers so far are being investigated over bets on the timing of the general election. the prime minister says he is leaving the betting investigation to the authorities. police fired tear gas and rubber bullets at protesters in nairobi a day after the president's scrapped its finance bill, which would have raised taxes. the mother of jay slater�* bill, which would have raised taxes. the mother ofjay slater�* best friend tells the bbc a deluge of online abuse about the missing teen has added to their living nightmare. and the festivalgoers are preparing for the heat and music at glastonbury. so, let�*s start this half—hour with that bbc investigation. the bbc has tracked down a people smuggler who organised a channel crossing in which a seven—year—old girl died. in april, our correspondent andrew harding witnessed the death of sara, who was among those trying to make their way to britain— in an overcrowded small boat. four other people also died in a crush on the boat. andrew explained how they knew they had found the man behind the fatal smuggling attempt. we were on a beach, a popular spot for smugglers to launch their small boats. we had a colleague in a police plane, a spotter plane, overhead, so we had good information about where the smugglers were planning to launch their boats. we waited until about 5:30am, we had been waiting hours on the beach, and suddenly it felt like the whole beach erupted in front of us. we�*re just running to catch up with some migrants here. the police are trying to stop a small boat from leaving the shore. it turns violent and the police are failing. the boat is dangerously overloaded. it looks like the migrants who did get onto that boat are in trouble. look at the child on someone�*s shoulders, on the right. more than 100 people are trying to squeeze on board. somewhere in the scrum, a seven—year—old girl�*s last moments. it sounds like someone crying for help. this is something people talk about a great deal, the failure of the french police to intervene. they say that, legally, it�*s difficult for them, they don�*t want to make things worse. what we did in the aftermath of that incident was to track down sara�*s father to ask him how much guilt and responsibility he should take for putting his children at such peril. but we wanted to go deeper, we wanted to find the smuggling gang responsible for that particular boat. our investigation took us from france, to belgium, to the uk, to antwerp, in northern belgium, and then finally to a migrant centre in the city of luxembourg, where we knew that the smuggler was actually hiding out. he�*d gone on the run, fearing the french police might be tracking him down. this was the moment we caught up with him. excuse me, sir. andrew harding, bbc news. we believe you are a smuggler. no. you�*re denying that? we understand you�*re still in business, that you are still smuggling people across the channel. we know 100% that you are a smuggler, that you are responsible for the death of this seven—year—old, that you put her on a boat, that you took money from her parents, that she and four other people died. that�*s you. we know that this is our man. he�*s confirmed the phone is his. his own picture that we have of him. he�*s getting on a tram now, we�*re going to let him go, there�*s not much more we can do, but this is the smuggler. the reason we were so confident we had the right man was because one of our team had been posing as a migrant for weeks and had been in contact directly with the smuggler, so we knew his phone number, we knew all the details about him. just as we were confronting him in those images you just saw, we phoned him again, and he took the phone out of his pocket and we saw our phone number on his phone, so there was no doubt in our minds. we�*ve since informed the french investigators that are looking into those five deaths from april, they say they have no comment at this stage, so the investigation continues. sara�*s mother and father and two siblings, a sister and a brother, are currently in limbo. ahmed, the father, was from iraq, he�*d come to belgium 15 years ago looking for work, he had not been given registration, no right to stay. but it had been such a long process that while he had been in europe, he�*d got married and had three children. those three children, all born in europe and educated in europe, no real links back to iraq, but they were told late last year that they would be deported from europe. right now, they�*re living in a small village outside lille, northern france, no prospect of schooling or any sense of where they�*re going to end up, all hoping that, somewhere in europe, some government will take pity on them. but at the moment, it�*s very unclear what will happen to them. it�*s possible they will be deported to iraq. anti—government demonstrators have returned to the streets of the kenyan capital, nairobi, in defiance of warnings by the authorities. after a quiet start to thursday, police have in the past few hours been firing tear gas and, according to newsagency afp, rubber bullets — in an effort to disperse crowds. more than 20 people were killed by police during mass demonstrations on tuesday when part of the parliament building was ransacked. human rights groups claim state agents have been abducting people linked to the protests. kenya�*s bar association has gone to court to challenge mr ruto�*s decision to deploy the military.the protesters have already forced president william ruto to abandon his deeply unpopularfinance bill, which would have brought in new taxes. some protesters are calling for the president to step down — accusing his government of corruption. our africa correspondent, barbara plett usher, says that the words from the president on wednesday had led to a de—escalation of the situation on the streets of the kenyan capital. it seems to have been partly responsible for things it being quieter today. we spoke to a man who had been out the other day, he�*s not protesting today, he felt that removing the finance bill was a step in the right direction and wanted to pursue the dialogue that the president had said he would do with the young people. i think that will have taken some of the steam out of it. it�*s still early in the day, we don�*t know how it will proceed throughout, but there are differences among the movement about whether or not to go forward or how to. some are saying they should not be challenging the police or to occupy the statehouse, we should walk quietlyjust to commemorate the dead and give voice to the dead. we have seen a couple of people with candles trying to do that. there are different approaches. one of the women we spoke to who was out was saying, i�*m out here for people who are afraid to come out because of what happened on tuesday. so that�*s part of it as well. the mother of missing teenager jay slater says she is not losing hope that she will find her son, who disappeared after attending a music festival more than week ago. more than £36,000 has been donated to a charity page. debbie duncan says the money will be used to support the mountain rescue teams who are searching for the i9—year—old, as well as help pay for the family�*s extended stay on the island. our correspondent nick garnett is in tenerife. jay�*s mother started by saying that you wouldn�*t believe how unbelievably difficult the situation is, and they have not given up hope of finding him and returning as a family back to the united kingdom together. she said that some of the money it was going to be used, there has been over £30,000 raised so far, some of the money was going to be used to donate to the mountain rescue teams to be able to carry on their search, other parts of the money would be used to pay for their extended stay, they have been here for nearly eight or nine days now. and they want to try and bring out some other relatives to be able to be here to help with the search operation and to keep in touch with the police and the authorities. this is an area, ijust want to tell you about where we are at the moment, this is an area that the authorities have been searching extensively. it has been the focus of the police search, it is a ravine at the top of the mountain. just this morning, there were four police cars here, with mountain rescue dogs that were operating in the area. there was also a helicopter flying overhead as well. this is the first time that we have been able to get down as far as we are today. i just want to take you and have a look at one of the buildings here, this has been one of the buildings that has been extensively searched, and there is no sign ofjay. and that is one of the problems, everywhere the police authorities have been, everything that the mountain rescue teams have done so far has drawn a blank. there has been no sign of him. inside there is a mattress, tea bags, water. people have been living there at some stage in the past, they thought that possibly jay might be down here. but they have searched this area extensively for all of last week, with police dogs and anything else they could find. but still, no sign of him. the big name acts will take to the stages at glastonbury from tomorrow, but thousands of people are already on site and raring to go. they�*ve had some glorious weather to kick—start the festival. our entertainment correspondent colin paterson is there we have come here to glastonbury on sea and this pier has the best view of the festival. as you can see, there is a sea of tense. there is about 200,000 people here, more than 200,000 people are here. over the course of the weekend. there is an enormous selection of people to see art, culture. but most importantly, the music. there will be two female headliners this year, including sza and dua lipa who is performing tomorrow. and shania twain will be taking that legend spot on sunday. lots of people to see, and many people have travelled quite far. some people have not travelled too far... i want to bring in these two. tell us your names. far. .. i want to bring in these two. tell us your names.— tell us your names. gray and brandon- _ tell us your names. gray and brandon. and _ tell us your names. gray and brandon. and where - tell us your names. 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before, it is really not for me, but _ scary places. i have been before, it is really not for me, but she i is really not for me, but she wants to be _ is really not for me, but she wants to be here — is really not for me, but she wants to be here-— is really not for me, but she wants to be here. ., i. , ., ., to be here. have you been dragged to glastonbury festival? _ to be here. have you been dragged to glastonbury festival? no, _ to be here. have you been dragged to glastonbury festival? no, just - to be here. have you been dragged to glastonbury festival? no, just the i glastonbury festival? no, 'ust the block nine and i glastonbury festival? no, 'ust the block nine and stuff. i glastonbury festival? no, just the block nine and stuff. well, - glastonbury festival? no, just the block nine and stuff. well, you i block nine and stuff. well, you miaht block nine and stuff. well, you might feel _ block nine and stuff. well, you might feel differently - block nine and stuff. well, you 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are you enjoying yourself? _ are you enjoying yourself? absolutely, _ are you enjoying yourself? absolutely, brilliant. - are you enjoying yourself? absolutely, brilliant. any. are you enjoying yourself? i absolutely, brilliant. any advice for someone who has not been here before? ., ., before? travel light, we never do. the intention _ before? travel light, we never do. the intention is _ before? travel light, we never do. the intention is there, _ before? travel light, we never do. the intention is there, but - before? travel light, we never do. the intention is there, but it i before? travel light, we never do. the intention is there, but it does| the intention is there, but it does not end _ the intention is there, but it does not end up— the intention is there, but it does not end up working out. travel light, — not end up working out. travel light, it — not end up working out. travel light, it is _ not end up working out. travel light, it is a _ not end up working out. travel light, it is a lot of walking with heavy — light, it is a lot of walking with heavy gear. light, it is a lot of walking with heavy gear-— heavy gear. have a wonderful weekend. _ heavy gear. have a wonderful weekend. i — heavy gear. have a wonderful weekend, i hope _ heavy gear. have a wonderful weekend, i hope you - heavy gear. have a wonderful weekend, i hope you enjoy. l heavy gear. have a wonderful i weekend, i hope you enjoy. lots of people looking forward to seeing some of the headliners, many acts to come this weekend at glastonbury festival. a transformational gene therapy for haemophilia b is being made available on the nhs. it can free people of the need for regular injections of the clotting agent their blood can't make naturally. but it's one of the most expensive treatments in the world — costing around two and a half million pounds. our health correspondent james gallagher reports. likea like a cartoon, you know, like tom and jerry. it is really rough. for 29 years, elliott needed regular injections to control his bleeding, until he took part in a trial of a new gene therapy. it is called... it uses an engineered virus to infect elliott's body with a genetic instructions for making the clotting proteins he could not before. but it is pricey. current treatments cost between 150 and £200,000 per patient every year for life. haemorrhage between 150 and £200,000 per patient every yearfor life. haemorrhage in x is a one off, but officially, it costs £2.6 million, making it one of the world's most expensive treatments. the nhs estimates around 250 people will be suitable for the gene therapy. this drug is incredibly expensive, and nobody knows how long it will last for her. it makes it really difficult to decide if it is worth paying for. what the nhs has done is something quite unique, it struck a deal where it pays more the longer the therapy lasts. essentially, it is performance related pay for drugs. it is a milestone to have gene therapy available on the nhs in england for people with severe haemophilia b, it is life transforming. at its most effective, it can last for decades and put the bleeding disorder into complete remission. ., ., remission. elliott has not needed haemophilia _ remission. elliott has not needed haemophilia injections _ remission. elliott has not needed haemophilia injections for- remission. elliott has not needed haemophilia injections for five . haemophilia injections forfive years now. i am just wondering, because you have had haemophilia for so long, and now you effectively do not, are you a different elliott? it fundamentally has changed, i don't think you can go through something like that for 29 years, having dealt with that and then for it to completely disappear. the anti—smoking charity ash says a fifth of ii—to—i7 years olds are now vaping, even though it is illegal for them to be sold to anyone under the age of 18. 0ur reporter aisha iqbal has been to a school in bradford, where some students as young as ten said that they had been offered nicotine vapes. cookies, ice cream, blueberry, blue raspberry. cherry ice and watermelon. this isn't a list of sweets and favourite treats, but rather the names of vape flavours lining the shelves in shops and supermarkets. vaping among youngsters is on the rise. worryingly for parents and educators alike, those trying the habit are getting younger and younger, and peer pressure is a big factor. a 14—year—old boy offered me a vape for no reason. hejust came up to me and asked me, like, "do you want a try this out?" i said, "what is it?" and he went, "something that'll make you feel good." but i looked at it in a kind of weird way and didn't take it. did you at any point think about it? because she kept asking me, and i said, "sorry, i've got to go now. " so i left. this youth charity, which has been delivering deterrent workshops in secondary schools across bradford, has now started working with primary schools. nicotine's addictive. nicotine can rewire your brain. certainly if you've a young brain, still growing. - the first question is... put your hand up if you've been ever been offered a vape by somebody? just under half of these youngsters had been offered a vape. only a handful had tried it and none had wanted to repeat the experience. there are wider efforts to crack down on the availability of vapes to younger children, including proposed new laws to ban disposable vapes entirely, stricter rules on marketing and flavours and a new vaping tax. i thinkjust the biggest thing in terms of my point of view from a teacher, putting more into it in the curriculum. we can obviously ourselves bring in external companies like step two, but i think having a bigger push in the curriculum so that we could just educate children about that would be my biggest thing in terms of a teacher from my point of view. the success of vaping as a quit smoking tool is acknowledged, but so are the risks of addiction to children especially. and, for those wanting to create a smoke and vape—free generation, prevention starts with education. aisha iqbal, bbc news. now, let's return to the election campaign. allison, welcome here to bbc news. let us start with what labour has been saying today about wanting to renegotiate the trade deal that uk signed with the eu after brexit, which is said to be holding back growth. how will you do that? ., . ~ ., ., that? good afternoon. we know that businesses right _ that? good afternoon. we know that businesses right across _ that? good afternoon. we know that businesses right across the - that? good afternoon. we know that businesses right across the country i businesses right across the country recognise what a bad deal that boris johnson got for us. and there are some very clear steps that need to be taken to rebuild our relationship with our nearest neighbours. for example, in the creative industries, i am here in salford which is the home to many very creative industries. it has been very difficult for people since brexit to be able to travel, think of the great torrington companies that come here in salford or who come to places like the liverpool empire in merseyside where i am from. we want creative companies and organisations to be able to tour easily across europe... i to be able to tour easily across eumpe- - -_ to be able to tour easily across euroe... . ., europe... i am asking how you intend to net europe... i am asking how you intend to get that — europe... i am asking how you intend to get that- it — europe... i am asking how you intend to get that. it has _ europe... i am asking how you intend to get that. it has been _ europe... i am asking how you intend to get that. it has been really - to get that. it has been really clear, it has been said you would have to accept free movement. fire have to accept free movement. are ou have to accept free movement. fife: you considering... ? have to accept free movement. are you considering... ? no, _ have to accept free movement. are you considering... ? no, i- have to accept free movement. are you considering... ? no, i don't, i. you considering... ? no, i don't, i don't. i you considering... ? no, i don't, i don't- i am _ you considering... ? no, i don't, i don't. i am asking _ you considering... ? no, i don't, i don't. i am asking what _ you considering... ? no, i don't, i don't. i am asking what your - you considering... ? no, i don't, i don't. i am asking what your view| you considering... ? no, i don't, i. don't. i am asking what your view on that is. i don't. i am asking what your view on that is. ~ that is. i disagree, ithink there are wa s that is. i disagree, ithink there are ways which _ that is. i disagree, ithink there are ways which can _ that is. i disagree, ithink there are ways which can improve - that is. i disagree, ithink there are ways which can improve on | that is. i disagree, i think there i are ways which can improve on the deal that do not involve that at all. just to give another example, if we think about our security partnerships with our nearest neighbours, we know that is incredibly important. we have got real problems with the smuggling gangs that are causing terrible dangerous incidents of people getting in small boats on the channel, we want to have a much better relationship, particularly with the french. but with people right across the european union, we need to have an approach that involves all of us. i think it is possible to get a better deal by negotiation. fundamentally, that relies on us being a reliable partner in the way that we have not been under the conservative government. we have had absolute chaos for ia years, i think what our european partners and neighbours want to see is whoever it wins the general election on the ath ofjuly, and i obviously very much hope it is labour, we want a consistent policy approach so that we know that we can work together. that is the way that we can build on a deal and improve it, by understanding what we share, where we have areas where we can gain and having a consistent approach that is the absolute opposite of what boris johnson approach that is the absolute opposite of what borisjohnson did. let me ask you about what the ifs said about the £18 billion of cuts that are already baked in either the parties, tory or labour would have to make those cuts, raise taxes or increase national debt. every time i have asked labour about this they have asked labour about this they have said no, you don't have to do that because we will generate growth. so, to avoid those sorts of tax rises or those cuts, what level of growth do you need?— tax rises or those cuts, what level of growth do you need? well, i think that the ifs — of growth do you need? well, i think that the ifs are _ of growth do you need? well, i think that the ifs are making _ of growth do you need? well, i think that the ifs are making a _ of growth do you need? well, i think that the ifs are making a completely reasonable point that characterises the situation that we have been in. when you ask me what level of growth we need, i would like to see our growth return to the kind of trend levels that we had under the last labour government here, which was around 2.7 or3% labour government here, which was around 2.7 or 3% of gdp growth a year. and that sort of steady growth around that sort of level, will allow our economy to build our public services, which then reinforces growth. because we know that if you have got strong public services, as keir starmer mentioned yesterday, in the debates, if you have gotjob centres that are really able to help people get the bestjob possible for them, that will improve productivity in our economy. sure. productivity in our economy. sure, but growth — productivity in our economy. sure, but growth between _ productivity in our economy. sure, but growth between january - productivity in our economy. sure, but growth between january and march but growth betweenjanuary and march was 0.6%. you are saying that labour can achieve growth of 3%? that sort ofjump, and what time period? ihla. ofjump, and what time period? no, that is not what _ ofjump, and what time period? iifr, that is not what i said. what i said is that if we had had similar level of growth that we had under the last labour government, we would have been much more... but labour government, we would have been much more...— labour government, we would have been much more... but 'ust tell me, the employment h been much more... butjust tell me, the employment minister, _ been much more... butjust tell me, the employment minister, you - been much more... butjust tell me, the employment minister, you must| the employment minister, you must have an idea of what the potential growth rate that you are hoping to achieve in six months, in nine months. :, , ., ., months. you must have that figure in our mind. months. you must have that figure in your mind- i — months. you must have that figure in your mind. i have _ months. you must have that figure in your mind. i have in _ months. you must have that figure in your mind. i have in my _ months. you must have that figure in your mind. i have in my mind - months. you must have that figure in your mind. i have in my mind the - your mind. i have in my mind the goals in ourgrowth your mind. i have in my mind the goals in our growth mission, which is to have the strongest growth in the g7. and also specifically in our area of employment, myself and liz kendall, the shadow work and pensions secretary, we have set our target to 80% in our country. i am target to 8096 in our country. i am not talking — target to 8096 in our country. i am not talking about _ target to 80% in our country. i am not talking about employment, i am talking about growth and a figure, as opposed to being vague, what is the figure of labour growth that you are predicting that will make it so that you can avoid tax rises, an increase of national debt, or going through with those £18 billion of cuts? i through with those £18 billion of cuts? :, through with those £18 billion of cuts? . ,:, , i. ., cuts? i am sorry if you feel i am bein: cuts? i am sorry if you feel i am being vague. — cuts? i am sorry if you feel i am being vague. i— cuts? i am sorry if you feel i am being vague, i am _ cuts? i am sorry if you feel i am being vague, i am just - cuts? i am sorry if you feel i am being vague, i am just saying i cuts? i am sorry if you feel i am. being vague, i am just saying the targets we have set out. i think the employment target... ghee targets we have set out. i think the employment target. . .— employment target... give me the tariet on employment target... give me the target on growth. _ employment target... give me the target on growth, that _ employment target... give me the target on growth, that is _ employment target... give me the target on growth, that is what - employment target... give me the target on growth, that is what i - employment target... give me the | target on growth, that is what i am asking about. fiur target on growth, that is what i am asking about-— target on growth, that is what i am asking about. our target on growth is to net to asking about. our target on growth is to get to the _ asking about. our target on growth is to get to the highest _ asking about. our target on growth is to get to the highest growth - asking about. our target on growth is to get to the highest growth in l is to get to the highest growth in the g7. we will do that as quickly as we can by investing. 0ur the g7. we will do that as quickly as we can by investing. our plan for our economy is first to stability, to have policy stability to stick to the areas we have set out. to invest, we have sent out through our green prosperity plan, and in other areas, where we want to see that investment from government to change our energy mix, to get the jobs we want that will help me with my goal to get us to 80%, and we also want to get us to 80%, and we also want to reform. so we want to have a much more sustainable economy that does not see the kinds of ups and downs we have had. it is our plan, i am not going to put a specific figure on it and a time. in the exact way that you suggested. no, it is not because i don't know it... it is because i don't know it... it is because i don't know it... it is because i think the right thing is to stick to the goals that we have set out in our growth mission. i think that is the right way to do it, because that will help... the suspicion _ it, because that will help... the suspicion when _ it, because that will help... the suspicion when you don't say is because those eventualities the ifs have been talking about become real, tax rises, cuts, oran have been talking about become real, tax rises, cuts, or an increase national debt. are you ruling out and increase, 100%, in the next five years if you win? an increase national debt?— years if you win? an increase national debt? ~ :, :, ., national debt? well, we do not want to any return — national debt? well, we do not want to any return to _ national debt? well, we do not want to any return to austerity. _ national debt? well, we do not want to any return to austerity. you - to any return to austerity. you asked a couple of questions there... we do not want any return to the kind of austerity that we had, because it was self—defeating. when it comes to debt, that is at high levels now, we don't want to add to the debt in ways that are unsustainable. that is why what matters is what you do with government borrowing. as i said out a moment ago, our plan where it involves borrowing is investing in the right things to change our economy to make our energy supply it much more stable and much more secure, not dependent on oil and gas from elsewhere. and to help use that investment to build betterjobs, so thatis investment to build betterjobs, so that is our plan for the economy. that is what we will stick to. that gives business a stable policy environment so that they know it is a good thing to invest alongside the government and change our economy and the way that we want to. and if people want that different approach thatis people want that different approach that is going to build our country, that is going to build our country, thatis that is going to build our country, that is why a week today we need people to vote labour. we that is why a week today we need people to vote labour.— that is why a week today we need people to vote labour. we have to leave it there, _ people to vote labour. we have to leave it there, we _ people to vote labour. we have to leave it there, we are _ people to vote labour. we have to leave it there, we are heading - people to vote labour. we have to leave it there, we are heading to l leave it there, we are heading to the top of the hour. thank you for your time and forjoining us. alison mcgovern, shadow employment minister. now, the latest on what is happening in scotland, the campaigning there. our correspondent has been following the snp. take me through what the main campaign thrust has been today.— through what the main campaign thrust has been today. matthew we have been on _ thrust has been today. matthew we have been on the _ thrust has been today. matthew we have been on the campaign - thrust has been today. matthew we have been on the campaign trail. thrust has been today. matthew we. have been on the campaign trail with the snp all day today, it started up this morning at a community health project in pelton and edinburgh, now we are at the beach, the sun has come out. it was lovely, a bit wet and windy earlier whenjohn swinney was here. but he was here too i think try and woo the voters. he was making pizzas and handing out bits of pizza to people, members of the public, after he... he was talking about that being important because of public finances, wanting to talk about the cost of living and the area that he was talking about. it has been a very busy day, with one week to go this morning. john swinney was on women's hour, he was asked about the issues that matter to women in the general election in his opinion. he was talking about improving maternity pay, and also talking about how independence, which is in the first line of the manifesto, is important. he says for women, because if scotland were to be independent, then scotland would have control, of course, over levers which would mean that he says he could tackle austerity, the cost of living and indeed the issues that he believes have been caused by brexit. this afternoon here, on the speech, he was telling us all about his plans and his message to the voters with just seven days to go at this time next week, people will be voting. here's his speech. abet time next week, people will be voting. here's his speech. at the heart of this _ voting. here's his speech. at the heart of this campaign _ voting. here's his speech. at the heart of this campaign is - voting. here's his speech. at the heart of this campaign is the - heart of this campaign is the challenge with public finances. we need more investment in our public services _ need more investment in our public services. what has been offered by both parties is a continuation of the tory— both parties is a continuation of the tory austerity that undermines scotland's — the tory austerity that undermines scotland's public services. the answer — scotland's public services. the answer is _ scotland's public services. the answer is for scotland have the opportunity to make decisions here in scotland. because when we make decisions _ in scotland. because when we make decisions here the concerns and considerations of the people of scotland — considerations of the people of scotland right at our heart, that is the key— scotland right at our heart, that is the key question of this campaign. what _ the key question of this campaign. what is _ the key question of this campaign. what is your message to the voters in the last seven days of this campaign? 1 in the last seven days of this campaign?— in the last seven days of this cam-rain? . , :,, :, . , campaign? i want people to realise the significance _ campaign? i want people to realise the significance of— campaign? i want people to realise the significance of the _ campaign? i want people to realise the significance of the trains - the significance of the trains they have _ the significance of the trains they have available _ the significance of the trains they have available to _ the significance of the trains they have available to them. - the significance of the trains they have available to them. the - the significance of the trains they. have available to them. the tories are going — have available to them. the tories are going to— have available to them. the tories are going to lose _ have available to them. the tories are going to lose this— have available to them. the tories are going to lose this election - are going to lose this election here, — are going to lose this election here, and _ are going to lose this election here, and scotland _ are going to lose this election here, and scotland we - are going to lose this election here, and scotland we have . are going to lose this election i here, and scotland we have got are going to lose this election - here, and scotland we have got to make _ here, and scotland we have got to make sure — here, and scotland we have got to make sure that _ here, and scotland we have got to make sure that we _ here, and scotland we have got to make sure that we send _ here, and scotland we have got to make sure that we send snp- here, and scotland we have got to make sure that we send snp mps| here, and scotland we have got to. make sure that we send snp mps to westminster— make sure that we send snp mps to westminster who _ make sure that we send snp mps to westminster who protect _ make sure that we send snp mps to westminster who protect scotland's| westminster who protect scotland's interests _ westminster who protect scotland's interests and — westminster who protect scotland's interests and bring _ westminster who protect scotland's interests and bring an _ westminster who protect scotland's interests and bring an end - westminster who protect scotland's interests and bring an end to- interests and bring an end to austerity _ interests and bring an end to austerity. we _ interests and bring an end to austerity. we cannot- interests and bring an end to austerity. we cannot have i interests and bring an end to. austerity. we cannot have any interests and bring an end to- austerity. we cannot have any more austerity— austerity. we cannot have any more austerity and — austerity. we cannot have any more austerity and scotland _ austerity. we cannot have any more austerity and scotland as _ austerity. we cannot have any more austerity and scotland as a - austerity and scotland as a consequence _ austerity and scotland as a consequence of— austerity and scotland as a l consequence of westminster decision—making, _ consequence of westminster decision—making, we - consequence of westminster decision—making, we must. consequence of westminster. decision—making, we must elect consequence of westminster- decision—making, we must elect snp mps and _ decision—making, we must elect snp mps and make — decision—making, we must elect snp mps and make sure _ decision—making, we must elect snp mps and make sure that— decision—making, we must elect snp mps and make sure that decisions. decision—making, we must elect snpl mps and make sure that decisions are made _ mps and make sure that decisions are made in _ mps and make sure that decisions are made in for— mps and make sure that decisions are made in for scotland. _ mps and make sure that decisions are made in for scotland.— made in for scotland. now, this seat in edinburgh — made in for scotland. now, this seat in edinburgh is _ made in for scotland. now, this seat in edinburgh is an _ made in for scotland. now, this seat in edinburgh is an snp _ made in for scotland. now, this seat in edinburgh is an snp held - made in for scotland. now, this seat in edinburgh is an snp held seat, . in edinburgh is an snp held seat, but a lot of the battle that the snp is taking part in in west central scotland against the labour party here in edinburgh, there is a mixture of places that the snp are fighting battles against, including the liberal democrats. an interesting mixture of political landscape here in edinburgh. as we have been saying, on the campaign trail, whatjohn swinney is emphasising most of all is that independence is his key goal because he believes that with independence, you can sort out all of the other issues, including dwindling public services and other issues along those lines. services and other issues along those lines-— services and other issues along those lines. :, those lines. more on the campaign trail tomorrow. _ those lines. more on the campaign trail tomorrow. thank _ those lines. more on the campaign trail tomorrow. thank you - those lines. more on the campaign trail tomorrow. thank you very - those lines. more on the campaign i trail tomorrow. thank you very much. the headlines are here next on bbc news. live from london. this is bbc news. one person in england dies link to the ongoing e. coli outbreak. we will bring you the latest. the police say seven offices so far are being investigated over bats on the timing of the general election. meanwhile, the prime minister says he is leaving the betting investigation to the authorities. it isjust not right for me to say is just not right for me to say anything more about that. but if anyone has broken the rules of course they should face the full consequences of the law and i will ensure they are booted out of the party. ensure they are booted out of the -a . ,, ., ensure they are booted out of the .a . ,, ., , ensure they are booted out of the party. stage is set. joe biden and donald trump _ party. stage is set. joe biden and donald trump are _ party. stage is set. joe biden and donald trump are set _ party. stage is set. joe biden and donald trump are set for- party. stage is set. joe biden and donald trump are set for their i party. stage is set. joe biden and l donald trump are set for their first tv debate out of us presidential election. and festivalgoers repair for the heat and music of glastonbury. —— festivalgoers prepare for the heat and music of glastonbury. hello, i'm matthew amroliwala. the uk health security agency says one person has died in england, linked to the ongoing e.coli outbreak. nationwide, there have been 275 confirmed cases of e.coli to date. our health correspondent nick triggle has the latest. well, we've been reporting on this e.coli outbreak for three weeks now. this is linked to the pre—packaged sandwiches that can be bought in supermarkets and shops, and in the latest update, the uk health security agency have reported 19 more cases. it brings the total across the uk to 275 identified. half of those have ended up in hospital, although the rate of new cases is beginning to drop now. now, there has been two deaths, actually, within 28 days of an infection, but only one of those deaths has been linked as probably caused by the e.coli infection. we don't know anything about that person other than they did have underlying health problems. and in terms of advice, what are they saying? well, e.coli is a bacteria that lives in the gut. most types are harmless, but this particular type, stec—01a5, attacks the lining of the gut, causing severe diarrhoea, vomiting and fever. so the uk health security agency have three bits of advice. they say when you're preparing food, it's important to wash your hands and clean the surfaces with disinfectants. if you are unwell you shouldn't prepare food for others, and you should stay away from hospitals and care homes where vulnerable people are. and if you are unwell, you shouldn't return to work, school or nursery within, you have to wait a8 hours after your symptoms have gone. the number of metropolitan police officers suspected of placing bets on the timing of the election has risen to seven. one of them, a member of rishi sunak�*s close protection team, has already been arrested and suspended. scotland yard says it's also investigating a small number of cases where it's possible that offences, including misconduct in a public office, may have been committed. the prime minister has been speaking again about the furore over his aide, craig williams, who has admitted placing a flutter on thejuly election. where anyone has broken the rules, they should face the full consequences of the law, whether that's the gambling commission or the police, and i will also ensure that they are booted out of the conservative party. did you tell craig williams, a man that you said you were with almost every minute of every day, the date of the election before he put the bet on? sam, i've been clear about this, i am furious to have learnt about those allegations, we've initiated independent inquiries of our own, internal ones, because i don't have access to the gambling commission's detail, we have suspended candidates. you'll recognise, whilst there are ongoing independent investigations, as you've said yourself, the police also being involved, it's not right for me to say anything more about that. but if anyone has broken the rules, of course they should face the full consequences of the law, and i will ensure they're booted out of the party. prime minister, you know the answer to the question whether or not you told craig williams. you cannot prejudice an investigation, you can only prejudice a jury trial. you absolutely can answer this question. it is not right, while there are ongoing investigations, that there was compromised in any way, shape orform, they are rightly confidential, they are rightly confidential, and it is important that they stay that way, and that is the right thing to do, and you know that, you know that. we have done internal inquiries of our own... this is not true... we have done internal inquiries of our own... inquiries of our own, and as a result of those have suspended candidates. i have been clear that anyone who has broken the rules should face the full consequences of the law, i will ensure they are booted out of the party, and whilst there are ongoing independent investigations, including, as you said, by the police, it is important those matters proceed properly. a reminder — the conservatives withdrew their support for craig williams earlier this week, following news that he's under investigation by the gambling commission over a bet placed on the timing of the election. mr williams has said he "committed an error ofjudgment, not an offence" and has apologised to voters. let's continue with getting more on that update from the metropolitan police because our home affairs correspondent told me what the met has been saying today following those allegations that officers placed bets on this election. there is a cloud of— placed bets on this election. there is a cloud of suspicion _ placed bets on this election. there is a cloud of suspicion about - is a cloud of suspicion about possibly having a bet on the election date. at this stage it is also true that only one of them has been interviewed under caution. he is the close protection officer with restricted due to. i think that much pot that they will take the lead in any cases which aren't in an allegation and one essentially betting on the election with some inside information but actually whether there are other offences involved for example misconduct in public office. because until now they have only been looking at their own officers. now misconduct in public office could apply to a police officer but it could also apply to somebody who is an mp at the time they made a bet or anyone else who is on the public payroll. a civil servant, special adviser to a minister, anyone who is essentially getting paid a salary from the public rather than for example conservative party headquarters. they could potentially fall into that category. so it may mean that the police could potentially be looking at people on the list of having made suspicious bets who aren'tjust police officers and could be mps that sounds potentially significant if the net becomes wider. in significant if the net becomes wider. , :, :, . wider. in terms of how the police will no wider. in terms of how the police will go about _ wider. in terms of how the police will go about this, _ wider. in terms of how the police will go about this, what - wider. in terms of how the police will go about this, what do - wider. in terms of how the police will go about this, what do you i will go about this, what do you know? :, , will go about this, what do you know? . , ,:, know? there have been some load suggestions _ know? there have been some load suggestions this _ know? there have been some load suggestions this morning - know? there have been some load suggestions this morning of - know? there have been some load| suggestions this morning of people being arrested. i think if it were that some kind of public official like an mp or a civil servant came into the police's and it was much more likely it will be done by interview by arrangement. they will say you need to talk about this because of the wider implications because of the wider implications because you are under the public payroll at the time and normally there would be a meeting arranged with somebody�*s solicitor. but it is quite serious and misconduct in public office is regarded as a serious offence so anybody who starts falling under the cloud of suspicion is potentially in some quite serious trouble. stand suspicion is potentially in some quite serious trouble. and briefly, daniel, i suppose _ quite serious trouble. and briefly, daniel, i suppose no _ quite serious trouble. and briefly, daniel, i suppose no particular- daniel, i suppose no particular indication in terms of any sort of timeline here. we have a week to go in this general election campaign. presumably no indication from the met in terms of any sort of expert edition of when we might see a development? ho. edition of when we might see a development?— edition of when we might see a develoment? :, :, :, ., , development? no. no one has given me an stroni development? no. no one has given me any strong to — development? no. no one has given me any strong to move _ development? no. no one has given me any strong to move massively _ any strong to move massively quickly. i think although obviously with an election looming you might want to somehow get it done and out of the way but there is no way you could go through the full legal and court process if it led to charges in time for the election, in which case much better to get it done right. so i don't think anything is get up in a massive speed. we do never example that some people have been interviewed by the gambling commission but i don't think we are suddenly going to get lots and lots of announcements a matter of days. daniel sanford. let's get back out on the campaign trail. we'll talk to jenny hill who is with the liberal democrats. damien grammatical as is with labour. take us through what labour have been focusing on today. yes, you join usjust labour have been focusing on today. yes, you join us just as the sun is trying to come out. we are now in cheshire and you mightjust get a glimpse of party activists just out there who have been gathered, who are going to hear a stump speech from the labour leader rallying them. you talk about the night before. so last night of course that election debate, keir starmer today saying he thought it went pretty well. he said he obviously faced a lot, a pretty angry, hostile tone to a lot of that, a lot of criticism. he said he thought that it went well because he wants to focus on me thinks his campaign is focusing on positive messaging b and the concept is by contrast are running a negative campaign. at this stage. and you might read a bit into where we have been today. cheshire, a target seat for labour. they are very upbeat there the activists if you talk to them, thinking they have a real chance here. where we were earlier today, a real chance here. where we were earliertoday, near a real chance here. where we were earlier today, near stoke, again a seat that labour had lost, very hopeful that they will regain that too. so sir keir starmer wanting to say that last debate yesterday has launched this final week of the campaign and he wants to talk about reforming the nhs, transforming the economy, those things that he thinks are at the heart of his campaign and thinks the conservative campaign is different. he was asked about some conservative attack ads that have been going out today, repeating lines that the priming is to use last night when he was talking about don't surrender your future to labour. some of those ads have now been going out online, pictures of people with their hands up. keir starmer asked about those, he described it as desperate. he said the tories are resorting to desperation tactics. that is the kind of approach he wants to take. i have to say, the mood amongst his party members has been pretty positive at this stage.— party members has been pretty positive at this stage. thank you very much- _ positive at this stage. thank you very much. let's _ positive at this stage. thank you very much. let's cross _ positive at this stage. thank you very much. let's cross to - positive at this stage. thank you very much. let's cross to jenny l positive at this stage. thank you i very much. let's cross to jenny hill very much. let's cross tojenny hill with the liberal democrats. another photocall from ed davey a little earlier. you are smiling, we were smiling when we were watching it. in terms of issues, what are the liberal democrats concentrating on? well, as you know, one of their central policies, the one they really like to focus on is health care and plans to invest in not only health care but social care too. what is interesting about today's announcement is it is all about what ed davey and his party want the next government to do. now, he, all of us know that unless anything really dramatic happens he is not going to be running the country. he is calling on whoever forms the next government to put in place an emergency budget, specifically the health care. he says he wants the next chancellor to call on the office for budget responsibility to put forward an urgent forecast as a basis for that budget. because, he says, the nhs simply can't wait to, as he would put it, fix. the lib dems are looking at pledges of spending on health and social care which add up to around £9 billion. it is a huge amount of money. their plans, for example, to provide social care to every adult, personal social care to every adult, personal social care. to up the number of gps and so on are described as extremely ambitious. our own in—house experts in the health department have had a look at them and said particular when it comes to their pledges on tackling backlogs for treatment, particularly in cancer, those are ambitious targets. the lib dems of course know they have the luxury of probably not having to be held to account on promises made in their manifesto because they are unlikely to end up running the country. nevertheless, ed davey insists that the manifesto is fully costed, that the manifesto is fully costed, that the plans for social and health care are fully costed. they, the lib dems, say they would pay for the promises by reforming capital gains tax, getting rid of tax loopholes for the wealthy and so on. so that is the focus of today but with a week left of campaigning the lib dems team are busy keeping their leaderfront and dems team are busy keeping their leader front and centre of their campaign. he has had a very busy day out and about this morning, painting pottery this afternoon. well, i'm not quite sure how you put it, corralling alpacas in the north west of england! it seems as if his career in politics for whatever reason fails ed davey mightjust have a future career as alpaca whisperer!— have a future career as alpaca whiserer!, , whisperer! jenny hill, we will hill, on the campaign _ whisperer! jenny hill, we will hill, on the campaign trail— whisperer! jenny hill, we will hill, on the campaign trail with - whisperer! jenny hill, we will hill, on the campaign trail with the - on the campaign trail with the liberal democrats. it is the 11th walk—out since last year. nhs england of one of major disruption, particular with the warmer weather putting extra pressure on its services. their union, the british medical association, is calling for a phased 35% pay rise. both labour and the conservative say that is unaffordable. our health correspondent has this report. what correspondent has this report. what we want? when _ correspondent has this report. what we want? when we _ correspondent has this report. “iii“isgt we want? when we want it? correspondent has this report. what we want? when we want it? if - correspondent has this report. what| we want? when we want it? if these ictures we want? when we want it? if these pictures and — we want? when we want it? if these pictures and these _ we want? when we want it? if these pictures and these chance _ we want? when we want it? if these pictures and these chance seem - pictures and these chance seem familiar, it is because you have probably seen and heard them before. this is the 11th time junior doctors in england have walked out on strike in england have walked out on strike in a dispute about pay. knife in england have walked out on strike in a dispute about pay.— in a dispute about pay. we want our work to be fairly _ in a dispute about pay. we want our work to be fairly valued _ in a dispute about pay. we want our work to be fairly valued on - in a dispute about pay. we want our work to be fairly valued on one - work to be fairly valued on one metric of that is the remuneration we receive. metric of that is the remuneration we receive-— we receive. when i first started it was £14 an _ we receive. when i first started it was £14 an hour— we receive. when i first started it was £14 an hour and _ we receive. when i first started it was £14 an hour and i _ we receive. when i first started it was £14 an hour and i was - we receive. when i first started it was £14 an hour and i was off - was £ia an hour and i was off to look— was £ia an hour and i was off to look after— was £ia an hour and i was off to look after 300 people alone overnight on the wards. patients aren't getting — overnight on the wards. patients aren't getting the _ overnight on the wards. patients aren't getting the treatment - overnight on the wards. patients| aren't getting the treatment that they require. _ aren't getting the treatment that they require, their— aren't getting the treatment that they require, their waiting - aren't getting the treatment that they require, their waiting on - aren't getting the treatment that they require, their waiting on ——| they require, their waiting on —— like they're _ they require, their waiting on —— like they're dying _ they require, their waiting on —— like they're dying on _ they require, their waiting on —— like they're dying on waiting - they require, their waiting on ——| like they're dying on waiting list. the anywhere _ like they're dying on waiting list. the anywhere we _ like they're dying on waiting list. the anywhere we can _ like they're dying on waiting list. the anywhere we can reverse - like they're dying on waiting list. i the anywhere we can reverse this is by penning — the anywhere we can reverse this is by penning does— the anywhere we can reverse this is by penning does adequately. - the anywhere we can reverse this is by penning does adequately. but i by penning does adequately. but there is by penning does adequately. there is something different by penning does adequately.- there is something different about this particular walk—out. the timing. it started at 7am this morning and will go on until the same time on tuesday morning. a mere two days before polling day. there has been fairly pointed criticism of this. some helped leaders and patient groups say there is no reason for the go—ahead before the election. the main reason people fight is to persuade those in power to fix their problems. right now, that isn't even possible. even if the government suddenly decided to give thejunior doctors the government suddenly decided to give the junior doctors everything they wanted, they wouldn't be allowed because there are rules about not bringing in major new policies ahead of an election. what policies ahead of an election. what we're trying _ policies ahead of an election. what we're trying to _ policies ahead of an election. what we're trying to achieve _ policies ahead of an election. what we're trying to achieve is _ policies ahead of an election. what we're trying to achieve is a - we're trying to achieve is a commitment from rishi sunak so, yes, we can achieve it now, it is totally possible. he could come out publicly commit in writing to his plan for pay restoration should he form the next government.— next government. either way, strikin: next government. either way, striking now — next government. either way, striking now puts _ next government. either way, striking now puts the - next government. either way, striking now puts the issue i next government. either way, striking now puts the issue of| striking now puts the issue of junior doctor pay right at the top of the political agenda. but already all the major parties have said if they are elected they would immediately try to restart talks with the bma. i immediately try to restart talks with the bma.— immediately try to restart talks with the bma. i understand the rocess with the bma. i understand the process and _ with the bma. i understand the process and all— with the bma. i understand the process and all that _ with the bma. i understand the process and all that sort - with the bma. i understand the process and all that sort of - with the bma. i understand the l process and all that sort of thing but you might as well wait. i had process and all that sort of thing but you might as well wait. i had an aneu sm but you might as well wait. i had an aneurysm in — but you might as well wait. i had an aneurysm in my _ but you might as well wait. i had an aneurysm in my leg _ but you might as well wait. i had an aneurysm in my leg last— but you might as well wait. i had an aneurysm in my leg last year, - aneurysm in my leg last year, they delayed _ aneurysm in my leg last year, they delayed the operation but i still fully support the doctors. while 'unior fully support the doctors. while junior doctors — fully support the doctors. while junior doctors are _ fully support the doctors. while junior doctors are out _ fully support the doctors. while junior doctors are out on - fully support the doctors. while junior doctors are out on picket| junior doctors are out on picket lines consultants will cover them, which means we can expect tens of thousands of appointments to be postponed at a time when the system busyin postponed at a time when the system busy in recent months. may saw record attendances in our emergency departments but we will prioritise those services but we will do that by moving senior doctors out of other work and that unfortunately means that we will see disruption in our routine and elective care stopped over the next five days of strike action the message for patients is that the nhs is still for business. only use 999 in emergencies but otherwise contact health professionals in the usual way. catherine burns, bbc news. the bbc is travelling around the country to listen to the election issues that matter to you, the voter. all afternoon we have been in the marginal seat of finchley and golders green, which is being targeted by labour. let's return once again to samantha simmons who there. , :, once again to samantha simmons who there. , . ., , :, there. yes, i am in leaping north london in _ there. yes, i am in leaping north london in this _ there. yes, i am in leaping north london in this key _ there. yes, i am in leaping north london in this key marginal - london in this key marginal battleground. it was of course famously margaret thatcher's c. there were boundary changes in 1997, he went to labour and then in 2010 it went to the conservative so it really is all to play for next week's election. we have been speaking to local people about their key concerns on what they will be voting on next week. in key concerns on what they will be voting on next week.— key concerns on what they will be voting on next week. in that booth i think i will be _ voting on next week. in that booth i think i will be very _ voting on next week. in that booth i think i will be very undecided - voting on next week. in that booth i think i will be very undecided still i think i will be very undecided still because _ think i will be very undecided still because i'm very undecided now. i don't _ because i'm very undecided now. i don't know— because i'm very undecided now. i don't know who i am going to vote for. don't know who i am going to vote for~ i_ don't know who i am going to vote for~ i have — don't know who i am going to vote for. i have always voted conservative all my life and i have voted _ conservative all my life and i have voted at _ conservative all my life and i have voted at every election all my life that i_ voted at every election all my life that i have — voted at every election all my life that i have been able to vote out. and i_ that i have been able to vote out. and iiust — that i have been able to vote out. and ijust don't know. i don't think the conservatives are good, i don't think— the conservatives are good, i don't think labour— the conservatives are good, i don't think labour will do a good job particular~ _ think labour will do a good job particular. i care about the environment, i care about the cost of living, _ environment, i care about the cost of living, i— environment, i care about the cost of living, i care about the future for my— of living, i care about the future for my grandkids and for my children _ for my grandkids and for my children. but ijust don't know who would _ children. but ijust don't know who would do _ children. but ijust don't know who would do the betterjob. and children. but ijust don't know who would do the betterjob. would do the better 'ob. and worried about the test — would do the better 'ob. and worried about the cost of — would do the betterjob. and worried about the cost of everything. - about the cost of everything. everything _ about the cost of everything. everything cost _ about the cost of everything. everything cost more - about the cost of everything. everything cost more now. i about the cost of everything. - everything cost more now. bosses are costing _ everything cost more now. bosses are costing more. — everything cost more now. bosses are costing more, trains. _ everything cost more now. bosses are costing more, trains. to _ everything cost more now. bosses are costing more, trains. to get _ everything cost more now. bosses are costing more, trains. to get to- everything cost more now. bosses are costing more, trains. to get to work. costing more, trains. to get to work costing more, trains. to get to work cost me _ costing more, trains. to get to work cost me e30 — costing more, trains. to get to work cost me £30 a — costing more, trains. to get to work cost me £30 a week— costing more, trains. to get to work cost me £30 a weekjust_ costing more, trains. to get to work cost me £30 a weekjust to - costing more, trains. to get to work cost me £30 a weekjust to get - costing more, trains. to get to work cost me £30 a weekjust to get to i cost me £30 a weekjust to get to work— cost me £30 a weekjust to get to work and — cost me £30 a weekjust to get to work and back _ cost me £30 a weekjust to get to work and back. i— cost me £30 a weekjust to get to work and back. i owe _ cost me £30 a weekjust to get to work and back. i owe money- cost me £30 a weekjust to get to work and back. i owe money on. cost me £30 a weekjust to get to . work and back. i owe money on basic wage _ work and back. i owe money on basic wage i_ work and back. i owe money on basic wage i am _ work and back. i owe money on basic wage i am a — work and back. i owe money on basic wage i am a security— work and back. i owe money on basic wage. i am a security gata _ work and back. i owe money on basic wage. i am a security gata i- work and back. i owe money on basic wage. i am a security gata i don't - wage. i am a security gata i don't earn _ wage. ! am a security gata i don't earn that— wage. i am a security gata i don't earn that much. _ wage. i am a security gata i don't earn that much. i— wage. i am a security gata i don't earn that much. i have _ wage. i am a security gata i don't earn that much. i have five - wage. i am a security gata i don't earn that much. i have five kids l wage. i am a security gata i don't i earn that much. i have five kids who are costing — earn that much. i have five kids who are costing a — earn that much. i have five kids who are costing a fortune _ earn that much. i have five kids who are costing a fortune as _ earn that much. i have five kids who are costing a fortune as it— earn that much. i have five kids who are costing a fortune as it is. - earn that much. i have five kids who are costing a fortune as it is. tititi�*iithl are costing a fortune as it is. with talk about the _ are costing a fortune as it is. with talk about the food _ are costing a fortune as it is. talk about the food crisis, the food bank, _ talk about the food crisis, the food bank, the — talk about the food crisis, the food bank, the gas, the covid and in the last 14 _ bank, the gas, the covid and in the last 14 years — bank, the gas, the covid and in the last ia years they have done literally— last ia years they have done literally nothing. it seems like it was a _ literally nothing. it seems like it was a plan — literally nothing. it seems like it was a planjust literally nothing. it seems like it was a plan just to discord everybody. and there is no growth, nothing _ everybody. and there is no growth, nothing so— everybody. and there is no growth, nothing. so i say out. so everybody. and there is no growth, nothing. so i say out.— nothing. so i say out. so the cost of livint nothing. so i say out. so the cost of living a — nothing. so i say out. so the cost of living a huge — nothing. so i say out. so the cost of living a huge issue _ nothing. so i say out. so the cost of living a huge issue for - nothing. so i say out. so the cost of living a huge issue for voters l of living a huge issue for voters here in finchley and golders green. like for 70 people up and down the country. there are huge inequalities in this constituency. billionaires road just down the road but also areas of deep deprivation. with me now is the reverend from saint barnabas food bank. good to have you on the programme. you have been running two different food banks starting off ten years ago. what changes have you seen in those years in terms of the number of people coming to access the food banks? i coming to access the food banks? 1 think numbers went up hugely coming to access the food banks? i think numbers went up hugely over the pandemic, especially with people who had right to remain but no recourse to public funds. they were really using the our services so much. but as peoples savings in bank balances went down and down and they weren't able to work then actually weren't able to work then actually we saw people that we wouldn't have seen before the pandemic really accessing the food bank. so people would come in and say i can't believe i'm in this situation. and they were literally coming in with no money and nothing in the cupboards at all. they had almost left it too late to come and ask for help. because nobody likes to go to a food bank, everybody wants to be able to go to the supermarket and choose their own food, don't they? and how do you cope huge increase in demand? how do you get your donations?— demand? how do you get your donations? . :, , ., ., donations? the community at large have been exceptional. _ donations? the community at large have been exceptional. they - donations? the community at large have been exceptional. they not i donations? the community at large i have been exceptional. they not only give us food but also give us money as well to buy that food in. we have to be very canny about where we buy and how we buy to get the most we can really for people. and we also have the barnett food hub, which has been exceptional. and also the food bank aid has really helped us out. there are 22 food banks in this borough alone. that is a huge number. do you think that there are bigger issues here than in other parts of london perhaps when it comes to cost of living? i parts of london perhaps when it comes to cost of living?- comes to cost of living? i think tartl comes to cost of living? i think partly what _ comes to cost of living? i think partly what we're _ comes to cost of living? i think partly what we're seeing - comes to cost of living? i think partly what we're seeing is - comes to cost of living? i think partly what we're seeing is we | comes to cost of living? i think i partly what we're seeing is we are sitting in a beautiful leafy park, which is beautiful leafy barnet. but there are pockets of deprivation. so there are pockets of deprivation. so there are pockets of deprivation. so there are estates and low income communities in the borough. which are actually often underrepresented. there are estates that are one road in and one road out. so our kids from our states, they go to schools where maybe they can't really afford a uniform. they can't afford the trip that everybody else is going on. and actually that is a really difficult place to be in. not only have you not got enough at home, actually you have not got enough to mix with the rest of your peer group. mix with the rest of your peer trout. ~ : mix with the rest of your peer ttrou, : . , mix with the rest of your peer t-rou.~ : , , group. whichever party takes the ke s to 10 group. whichever party takes the keys to 10 downing _ group. whichever party takes the keys to 10 downing street - group. whichever party takes the keys to 10 downing street next i keys to 10 downing street next friday, there is only so much money to go around. there are so many issues. what you think realistically can be done to help those most in need now? i can be done to help those most in need now?— can be done to help those most in need now? ~i ., ., _, , need now? i think there are a couple of thints. need now? i think there are a couple of things- i — need now? i think there are a couple of things. i think _ need now? i think there are a couple of things. i think firstly _ need now? i think there are a couple of things. i think firstly when - need now? i think there are a couple of things. i think firstly when the - of things. i think firstly when the cost of living payments came out we saw a dip in food bank usage. that just shows that you only need to put a little bit more money in people's pockets and they will not use a food bank, they will go to the supermarket instead. as i say, nobody wants to use a food bank. but actually our states are doing the best they can. and a little bit of help goes a long way. —— our estates. all the services are being stripped out, the estates have stood up stripped out, the estates have stood up and said we will provide children's families work. we will do stuff for our elderly and lonely, will provide other food services. and i guess if we could just have a little bit more engagement and a little bit more engagement and a little more money it would go a long way. i think to be honest we have something to teach the rest of the borough. i guess people in billionaires wrote don't know their neighbours. we know our neighbours and we deeply care for them. reverend, really interesting to talk to you. thank you for talking to us about the issues in your constituency. that is it from us in finchley and golders green. here's a full list of all the candidates standing in the constituency of finchley and golders green, you can find more details on the bbc news website. thanks for all of the coverage throughout the afternoon. let's turn to another story away from the election because a court has heard how an undercover police officer feared there was an imminent threat to holly willoughby after pictures of her were posted on an online group called abductor lovers. let's go live to our correspondence at the court. tell us more about what the court has been hearing through the course of the day. “well. through the course of the day. well, most of the — through the course of the day. well, most of the day _ through the course of the day. well, most of the day has _ through the course of the day. well, most of the day has been _ through the course of the day. -i! most of the day has been taken up with the evidence from an undercover police officer as you say who's going by the pseudonym of david nelson. he was talking via video link from united states. he said as part of hisjob link from united states. he said as part of his job has spent the last three years looking at various online groups and he said hejoined one and that is where he initially saw comment by gavin plumb. he said the comment about holly willoughby is really what set alarm bells ringing with him to paraphrase. he said he started messaging gavin plumb directly, privately so other members of the group couldn't see and he said that he was alarmed when at one point first sent him a video of a kidnapped kit consisting of handcuffs and other items and also things, indications that he was buying chloroform. he said they continue with this and it was very anxious he said to establish whether this was just a fantasy in gavin plumb“s mind whether it was reality. he was challenged on this by gavin plumb“s barrister. he was very straightforward with this he said he believed with or without his help gavin plumb intended to carry out these acts on holly willoughby. the case continues tomorrow, when we are expecting gavin plumb to give his defence. one of the thing that was brought up by gavin plumb“s barrister was that the undercover officer had seen a photograph of gavin plumb during the conversation online and the defence barrister said that he was significantly overweight. the officer said he agreed he was overweight and he was asked does this mean that it undermined the credibility of gavin plumb“s plan, including things like jumping over the wall of holly willoughby“s wall. the officer said he didn't think it did. now it's time for a look at the weather with ben rich. hello. it has been swept away by this band of cloud, this frontal system moving eastwards. it is all connected with an area of low pressure, actually an unseasonally deep low. a lot of isobars on this chart as a slow drift across the northern half of the uk. so to go through the evening will continue to see some pretty strong winds across northern ireland, scotland, northern england, parts of north wales. gusts of a0 to 50 miles an hour, outbreaks of rain as well. further south breezy but not as windy and for south wales, the midlands, the south and east of england, it will stay largely dry. temperatures overnight generally holding up in double digits. but as we head into tomorrow we will have some outbreaks of rain across scotland, still quite windy especially across the north of england. parts of northern england not too many showers further south. some spells of sunshine, fresher thanit some spells of sunshine, fresher than it has been of late, highs of 22 degrees. it won't feel too bad in the sunshine. further north 16th aberdeen and for glasgow. into the weekend actually it doesn't look too bad, dry weather, spells of sunshine come in the sunshine it will feel warm. but a little bit of rain at times. on saturday that rain will come courtesy of this frontal system. very weak affair pushing in from the west. not a lot of energy with the weather front, just a zone of cloud, bits and pieces of cloudy rain. to the north of that sunny spells, one or two showers. to the south of the weather front we will introduce some slightly more humid air again. introduce some slightly more humid airagain. not as introduce some slightly more humid air again. not as warm as it was but temperatures up to 2a, 20 5 degrees. by temperatures up to 2a, 20 5 degrees. by sunday it looks like all of us will be back into the fresher air, dry weather for the second after weekend. the best in the south. one or two showers here. more cloud further north and the temperatures between 13 and 21 degrees north to south. next week things pretty unsettled, longer spells of showers at times. best of the dry weather in the south and no sign of any returns anything particular warm. this is bbc news, the headlines... one person in england dies, linked to the ongoing e.coli outbreak. the police say seven officers “'so far" are being investigated over bets on the timing of the general election. the prime minister says he's leaving the betting investigation to the authorities. the stage is set — joe biden and donald trump prepare for their first tv debate later, ahead of the us presidential election. more on all of these stories coming up more on all of these stories coming up later on, olie foster is ready to go with the sports headlines. england's t20 world cup semifinal against india has been disrupted by the rain in guyana, the start was delayed by an hour, and they've just gone off again after eight overs. jos buttler won the toss and decided to bowl first. they made the breakthrough in the third over, virat kohli bowled by reece topley. and rishabh pant has also been caught behind off sam curran. but captain rohit sharma was going along nicely on 37 before the heavens opened again. india 65—2. each side must face ten overs for there to be a result. but they've got plenty of time in hand to get that. south africa made very light work of afghanistan in their semi—final. they won by nine wickets in trinidad but the state of the pitch has come in for a lot of criticism afghanistan were bowled out forjust 56, the lowest score in a t20 world cup semifinal, they were all—out the 12th over. batting was a lottery with extremely inconsistent bounce with each delivery. south africa survived a few scares themselves, but reeza hendricks top scored with 29 and they are through to theirfirst men's white—ball final, but for the afghanistan coach, the result left a bad taste in the mouth. whenever you lose a game like this, it's always going to hurt and it should hurt, because you put so much into it, so many sacrifices made by the players, officials, all that sort of stuff. i don't want to get myself into trouble but that's not the pitch you want to have a match, semifinal of the world cup on it, plain and simple. wimbledon starts on monday, some of the top stars are playing at the eastbourne international in preparation, three british players reached the quarterfinals in the women's draw, the first time that had happened in over a5 years, but they are all out. the british number one katie boulter lost to french open finallist jasmine paolini in straight sets. boulter really seemed to struggle with the blustery conditions, she lost the first set 6—1 and the second on a very one—sided tie break. harriet dart lost to another grand slam finallist. she won only three games against leylah fernandez, the canadian who lost to emma raducanu in the 2021 us open final. and raducanu was the third british woman in the quarters, she's beaten fellow grand slam winner sloane stephens and the world number five jessica pegula so far this week, but was no match for the world number 1a daria kasatkina. 6-2, 6-2. she is out. what a summer billy harris is having. ten days ago he was ranked 325th in the world but he reached the quarterfinals at queens and now he's into the semi—finals at eastbourne. it's the first time he's got this far at a tournament at this level, having spent a long time on the futures and challenger tours. and he came from a set down to beat the world number a9 flavio cobolli — improving his provisional world ranking to 116th. we used to play a lot in the wind, so it's obviously frustrating for everyone but yeah, coming from the isle of man definitely help me. i haven't got a secret, but i've had three great weeks in a row and i just want to continue as much as i can. i“m just want to continue as much as i can. i'm loving it out here. it's the first rest day at the european championship ahead of the first knockout stage that starts on saturday. england have to wait until sunday for their game in the last 16 against slovakia in gelsenkirchen. 23 of the 26 trained today, declan rice and kieran tripper are being put through individual programmes away from the squad. luke shaw againjoined the main group, so he could be in line for his first appearance. phil foden is still back in the uk with his partenr expecting their third child. we heard from marc gayee today, who was asked what he expected from slovakia. he was asked what he is expected from the game against slovakia. “latte is expected from the game against slovakia. ~ :, is expected from the game against slovakia. . . ., . is expected from the game against slovakia. . . . . ., , slovakia. we all watch the games, it's fine slovakia. we all watch the games, its fine that _ slovakia. we all watch the games, it's fine that they _ slovakia. we all watch the games, it's fine that they qualified, - slovakia. we all watch the games, it's fine that they qualified, and i it's fine that they qualified, and they've got some really good players on the team and the obvious one from natalie but a lot of good players. i think it's just going to be another tough opponent, tough challenge to deal with. tough opponent, tough challenge to dealwith. but tough opponent, tough challenge to deal with. but it's important that we just have to be ready for those challenges and match whatever intensity they are going to bring. and that's all the sport for now. hugh ferris will be back later. and we're hoping to see some results from that t20 world cup semifinal. sir keir starmer has said he was not intending to cause offence to the bangladeshi community, after his comments about bangladeshi migrants were criticised. during the sun's election debate on monday, the labour leader said people coming from countries like bangladesh are not currently being removed from the uk. on the question of returns, because you raised that. the number of people being returned to where they came from has dropped off by aa% under this government. so on the first few days and government come up first few days and government come up with the staff back in the returns unit, i'll make sure we've got planes going off, natural want to because that's and mc expensive gimmick, they will go back to the countries people come from. that's what used to happen. where? it's so hard to do but... at the moment people coming from countries like bangladesh are not being removed. let's bring in our political correspondent hannah miller. what was keir starmer staying today? what was keir starmer staying today? what has happened since monday is those comments have been edited and shared quite widely on social media, slightly changing the emphasis and they've caused significant anger, particularly among the bangladeshi community. i think two things that are clearfrom community. i think two things that are clear from that answer. the first is that he's talking about quite long—standing labour policy, that people who are failed at asylum—seekers should be removed to the country where they came from as long as that is safe. the government have a long—standing returns agreement in place with angle —— which they announced earlier this year. i also think it's important to note from that clip there, once he's being pushed for an example by the host but harry cole, but it has caused significant anger. a counsellor, the deputy leader of labour in tower hamlets has resigned over this particularly because she felt keir starmer was wrong to single out the bangladeshi community, they suggested it perhaps was unwise, they have made representations to the labour leadership, because they know this click on the way it has been spread has caused quite significant concern among some people. keir starmer was then asked about that today and he said that he never intended to cause any offence or any concern, and he added that british bangladeshi people have an enormous contribution to our country. this shows you how decisive and issued immigration can become a talking about where people come from, the kind of blurring sometimes in the media and social media between people who are here legally and people who are here illegally, and the kind of minefield that that can be for politicians trying to give answers about what they intend to do to people in different situations through the immigration system.— different situations through the immigration system. hannah miller there at westminster, _ immigration system. hannah miller there at westminster, thanks - immigration system. hannah miller there at westminster, thanks very | there at westminster, thanks very much for that update. politicians from northern ireland's five largest political parties will face off this evening in their second tv debate of the election campaign. all 18 seats are up for grabs next thursday. in 2019, the democratic unionist party won the most seats — with eight, but now has seven after former party leader sirjeffrey donaldson was suspended from the party. sinn fein came second with seven seats, the sdlp secured two and the alliance party won a single seat. the election is being held during northern ireland's school summer holidays and parading season, which could affect turnout. constituency boundary changes may also have an impact. let's speak to our ireland correspondent, sara girvin in belfast. ahead of that debate, cerro welcome to the programme, what are you expecting there tonight? —— sarah. as you say, we're going to be hearing from the leaders or senior members of northern ireland's five main political parties so that's the du p, shin —— fein, all of them have issues that the parties hear of been talking about for a long, longtime, there is been no real rabbit out of a hat moment in all of them. the du p and s lp announced their manifestos yesterday so it does only feel like things are only getting up and running here in northern ireland but there arejust and running here in northern ireland but there are just seven days to go before people here in northern ireland and across the uk cast their votes. it is hoped that this later did debate, you can see the stage behind me, these are the podiums that those leadership will be standing at, will liven things up again. we are going to have a studio audience here as well, about 100 people and they will be asking questions of those northern ireland political leaders, and we know that always adds a bit of spice to any debate. :, , debate. how fluid is the political situation there? _ debate. how fluid is the political situation there? because - debate. how fluid is the political situation there? because of - debate. how fluid is the political. situation there? because of course, the assembly has onlyjust up and running, to focus on day—to—day issues, the health service for example, cost of living. so how fluid is the backdrop, do you think? no, you're absolutely correct. it comes against the backdrop of the devolved power—sharing governments here in northern ireland. it had a hiatus of two years after the du p walked out of that power—sharing government, leaving northern ireland without a devolved executive for over two years. it did only come back to stormont a matter of months ago and that will for sure come up in tonight's debate. you mention things like the cost of living, of course like it is across the uk, it“s course like it is across the uk, it's a massive issue here. at the health service is a particularly big issue in northern ireland because waiting lists here are the longest in the uk. and because it's northern ireland up for the season with winter, it takes a tiny percentage of the votes. things tend to feel localised, so the constitutional question that comes into things whether northern ireland should leave the uk or state as part of it, and that's all up for debate. just a couple of hours“ time. you'll be able to watch it on the news channel of course at ipm this evening. thanks very much for now, setting up that debate which happens in a few hours“ time. plenty more from the election campaign here in a moment or two, election campaign here in a moment ortwo, i'll election campaign here in a moment or two, i'll be talking to aubrey ellie graddy and rachel cunliffe on the programme. let's turn away for a few minutes to what is happening in the next br“s in the us. —— next two hours in the us. each man's microphone will be muted while his opponent is speaking. i have been talking ahead of this debate to a professor at american university school of international service, and she told me how high the stakes were tonight. i service, and she told me how high the stakes were tonight.— service, and she told me how high the stakes were tonight. i think the stakes are very _ the stakes were tonight. i think the stakes are very high, _ the stakes were tonight. i think the stakes are very high, as _ the stakes were tonight. i think the stakes are very high, as we've - the stakes were tonight. i think the | stakes are very high, as we've been talking about this is the earliest that it's been ever really, and also the first time an incumbent president has been against a former president has been against a former president again in a debate, so i think that, polls are saying six in ten americans are watching, they think they're going to be watching, it'll be very important and i think it'll be very important and i think it really will set the tone for at least the coming weeks in the campaign, and know, the first time president trump and president biden went head—to—head in a debate, president biden won that and that set the tone for the rest of the campaign. so the stakes are very high, matthew. campaign. so the stakes are very high. matthew-— high, matthew. we'll come back to town in a minute, _ high, matthew. we'll come back to town in a minute, but— high, matthew. we'll come back to town in a minute, but there - high, matthew. we'll come back to town in a minute, but there is - town in a minute, but there is so much to talk to you about, i'm fascinated to hear you on the programme here, because h, that is going to be a critical issue in terms of which candidate is more coherent. that is going to be one of those snapshot things that people take away very, very quickly, isn't it? it take away very, very quickly, isn't it? , :, :, it? it is, and look, i mean, obviously _ it? it is, and look, i mean, obviously president - it? it is, and look, i mean, obviously president trump | it? it is, and look, i mean, l obviously president trump is it? it is, and look, i mean, - obviously president trump is going to be hitting president biden on his age and you can see, there are two president biden “s. the one that was really in command at the state of the union and all the republicans said he was kind ofjacked up and there have been these conspiracy theories that he's going to be on performance—enhancing drugs or such, there's no evidence that. but there's no evidence that. but there's also the president biden that was wandering around normandy and didn't seem to really know what's going on. president trump has kind of one speed if you will, just kind of one speed if you will, just kind of one speed if you will, just kind of going on, rambling without much, kind of, focus. and i think that's less a fact of his age and more a fact ofjust who he is. so i think he's going to be pressing president biden on his age and his virility, whereas president biden might be hitting trump on his demeanour and character. its, might be hitting trump on his demeanour and character. a quick follow-u- demeanour and character. a quick follow-up point — demeanour and character. a quick follow-up point on _ demeanour and character. a quick follow-up point on that, - demeanour and character. a quick follow-up point on that, becausel follow—up point on that, because relentlessly over the last few months, donald trump and his close supporters have attacked joe biden on his age, they give the impression that he can't get to the end of a sentence. is there a danger there that in a sense the republicans have set the bar so low, if there's a solid performance from joe biden, that turns out to be a big win. filth. that turns out to be a big win. 0h, absolutely- _ that turns out to be a big win. 0h, absolutely. you _ that turns out to be a big win. 0“! absolutely. you soft through the state of the union no—one was really expecting that much, and he delivered a very strong performance. but look, it is a snapshot, and he's going to have to continue to deliver that performance, even if he has a great night he's going to have to continue that. because this age and his fitness is certainly something thatis his fitness is certainly something that is going to be an issue in the campaign, and you can't say it isn't. he does kind of a time show that he's a little frail and possibly weak, and not you entirely focused. people say meetings and such he is, but you know, what the public sees is very important. its, public sees is very important. a quick assessment from you on tactics. so doesjoe biden go after what i said in the introduction, that trump is now a convicted felon, does he make a lot of that in terms of donald trump was marked as you go for the man, does he go for issues? i think he's going to go for character. he's going to go for democracy. you know, he made a point in 2020 that four years of resident trump was bad enough, anotherfour years would be disastrous. i think he's going to do that again. hit the authoritarian angle and democracy. also some issues, of abortion and such, i think he's really going to hit trump and his advisers are certainly looking to focus more on trump as my character as opposed to the whims of the biden administration over the last four years, whereas they think president trump is going to go on immigration as you had said, but also biden's kind of age and fitness. you as you had said, but also biden's kind of age and fitness.— kind of age and fitness. you talk about the whims _ kind of age and fitness. you talk about the whims of— kind of age and fitness. you talk about the whims of joe - kind of age and fitness. you talk about the whims ofjoe biden i kind of age and fitness. you talk i about the whims ofjoe biden over the last four years, i was listening to frank thomas talk about this. it was important for the president not just to reference his record but also to pitch it forward, to make it clear to people how he is going to make their lives better, because thatis make their lives better, because that is what is playing so strongly at the moment. is that an assessment that you would agree with?— that you would agree with? 10096. i think it's that you would agree with? 10096. i think its key- _ that you would agree with? 10096. i think it's key. listen, _ that you would agree with? 10096. i think it's key. listen, when - think it's key. listen, when president biden “s says all the jobs we created, all that, it doesn't resonate with voters and that's what polls are showing. they are still feeling the economy, still feeling inflation and you know when they go to the gas pump or when they go to the store to buy things, it“s to the gas pump or when they go to the store to buy things, it's still very expensive. so he has to show that things are going to bed get better, the abortion issue is going to be a big thing, and what he plans to be a big thing, and what he plans to do for americans over the last four years. that's something that president trump has not been very strong out. president trump is very strong out. president trump is very strong at saying your suffering, you're hurting come of the country is a disaster. but he doesn't really have immigration, other than immigration he doesn't really have a vision. that's going to be important for americans going forward. tiara for americans going forward. two tuick final for americans going forward. two quick final thoughts, for americans going forward. two quick finalthoughts, how for americans going forward. two quick final thoughts, how important, first of all is likability in this debate? i first of all is likability in this debate? .. “ , , first of all is likability in this debate? ~i �*, , ., debate? i think it's very important. you could say _ debate? i think it's very important. you could say that _ debate? i think it's very important. you could say that it's _ debate? i think it's very important. you could say that it's all— debate? i think it's very important. you could say that it's all about - you could say that it's all about the policies and the platform, i think, you know, polls have shown it really goes down to likability. and president trump's supporters like him very much. whereas the undecided don't really like him or president biden. president biden supporters don't necessarily love him, they just kind of really dislike trump, so i think likability is important butjust so i think likability is important but just likability so i think likability is important butjust likability is also just as important in this campaign. ads, butjust likability is also just as important in this campaign. a final thoutht important in this campaign. a final thought then. _ important in this campaign. a final thought then, because _ important in this campaign. a final thought then, because in - important in this campaign. a final thought then, because in a - important in this campaign. a final thought then, because in a sense l thought then, because in a sense we've got two debates. people that watch it live and people that watch the clips like on a news outlet or social media, and that is really important because those culpable moments, a zinger, a gaffe, a put—down, something thatjumps out, that becomes so important, doesn't it? it that becomes so important, doesn't it? :, , , :, , it? it does become important, but i think people _ it? it does become important, but i think people that _ it? it does become important, but i think people that watch _ it? it does become important, but i think people that watch the - it? it does become important, but i think people that watch the whole l think people that watch the whole thing and want to see how they perform is going to be very important. don't forget, there is no microphone, so one is going to be speaking while the other is sitting there like this, and president trump, if his microphone is muted and he's still kind of rambling, that isn't a very good look. is president biden isjust kind of quiet or looks like he's about to fall asleep, that's not going to look very good. so typically i think you're right, but the fact that there's no microphone and both candidates might be shown during the whole thing, i think that's going to be really interesting to watch. really interesting idea, no microphones. now, let's return to our election. around this time every afternoon we like to take a step back and invite some expert eyes to give us their view on the election campaign. welcome, both of you to the programme. let's not knock around the campaign that we've seen so far, and of course we are into the last week now. aubrey, to you first of all. where do you think we are with all. where do you think we are with a week to go?— all. where do you think we are with a week to go? while, in truth, there is sort of a — a week to go? while, in truth, there is sort of a vacuum _ a week to go? while, in truth, there is sort of a vacuum between - a week to go? while, in truth, there is sort of a vacuum between now - is sort of a vacuum between now and polling day, and so the parties launched their manifestos, the conservatives got a lot of their policies at the very start of this campaign to generate interest, get people talking about policies like national service. so actually, now we are talking, trying to talk primarily about the unanswered questions. were the political parties not being clear in their plans for the future? and certainly talking to both camps, the conservative side feeling quite downbeat, deflated. we had a minister on the morning round today, kevin hollinrake telling conservative activists and politicians, don't give up, fight for every vote we possibly can. and on the labour side, they are certainly starting to turn tentatively to those very tense discussions to what it would be like to get into government, which of them are going into government as well because of course there might be personnel changes, either ministerial or shadow ministerial level and amongst the back office team as well. level and amongst the back office team as well-— level and amongst the back office team as well. .. , :, ., ,, team as well. rachel, your take with seven days — team as well. rachel, your take with seven days to _ team as well. rachel, your take with seven days to go? _ team as well. rachel, your take with seven days to go? i _ team as well. rachel, your take with seven days to go? i think _ team as well. rachel, your take with seven days to go? i think the - team as well. rachel, your take with seven days to go? i think the final. seven days to go? i think the final seven days to go? i think the final seven days are — seven days to go? i think the final seven days are continuing - seven days to go? i think the final seven days are continuing to - seven days to go? i think the final seven days are continuing to be i seven days are continuing to be dominated by this gambling scandal especially as you got the news this afternoon — especially as you got the news this afternoon that the met police are investigating whether it wasn't just cheating _ investigating whether it wasn't just cheating or whether there were possibly — cheating or whether there were possibly incidences of misconduct in public— possibly incidences of misconduct in public office. and i think it's very striking _ public office. and i think it's very striking that rishi sunak was asked repeatedly whether he had told his punditry _ repeatedly whether he had told his punditry, craig williams who was the individual— punditry, craig williams who was the individual who sparked off the whole scandal— individual who sparked off the whole scandal who placed a bet on the date of the _ scandal who placed a bet on the date of the election, whether he told them _ of the election, whether he told them the — of the election, whether he told them the date of election, and he couldn't— them the date of election, and he couldn't answer that question. and i think— couldn't answer that question. and i think that _ couldn't answer that question. and i think that now the police are involved _ think that now the police are involved in it notjust an issue of whether— involved in it notjust an issue of whether somebody was distasteful in placing _ whether somebody was distasteful in placing bets but whether they actually used information in order to use _ actually used information in order to use it— actually used information in order to use it to — actually used information in order to use it to you to their advantage, i to use it to you to their advantage, i don't _ to use it to you to their advantage, idon't think— to use it to you to their advantage, i don't think that's going to go away — i don't think that's going to go awa . , :, , �* i don't think that's going to go awa . , ., , �* :, i don't think that's going to go awa. , ., ,�* :, ., i don't think that's going to go awa. , ., ,�* ., ., . away. yes, that isn't going away. we are now two — away. yes, that isn't going away. we are now two weeks _ away. yes, that isn't going away. we are now two weeks into _ away. yes, that isn't going away. we are now two weeks into that - away. yes, that isn't going away. we i are now two weeks into that scandal. aubrey, i want to ask you about strategy, because we saw the head—to—head debate and of course it was tori labour, yesterday. i“m struggling to understand the strategy when it comes to the tories and rishi sunak, and reform. they're not going for reform even though they are haemorrhaging support to them. does that make sense to you? to be honest, it depends on the policy lookout. there are some conservative central headquarters think the argument is having cut through, and the closer they get to polling day the more people are starting to realise that this is probably a choice between who is going to end up in number ten. you think that line — going to end up in number ten. you think that line about a vote for reform is a vote for keir starmer, is cutting through, do you think? i think there were signs of it, there were polls that suggest that the reform vote is taking a hit. the slew of stories about some of the candidates, past remarks, and i think the party is coming under heavy fire, reform as well. whether they can regain it in the final week and people will ultimately see that if a keir starmer majority is kneeled on they don't feel they need to vote tactically and that's the biggest danger for rishi sunak. rachel, what about the gaps in terms of what labour is offering? some concerns are about the offering being modest, and also those areas that haven't fleshed out the details, relentlessly questioning keir starmer yesterday about immigration, the gap in language or difference in language about capital gains tax. do you think that is potentially a problem, or not necessarily? i potentially a problem, or not necessarily?— potentially a problem, or not necessaril ? ,, �*, ., , necessarily? i think it's a problem in terms of _ necessarily? i think it's a problem in terms of this _ necessarily? i think it's a problem in terms of this election, - necessarily? i think it's a problem in terms of this election, we've i in terms of this election, we've seen _ in terms of this election, we've seen that— in terms of this election, we've seen that in the polls since the start, — seen that in the polls since the start, labour have been pressed on their tax— start, labour have been pressed on their tax plans start, labour have been pressed on theirtax plans in start, labour have been pressed on their tax plans in particular, the gaps— their tax plans in particular, the gaps in— their tax plans in particular, the gaps in all— their tax plans in particular, the gaps in all of the... the money they will have _ gaps in all of the... the money they will have available. the conservatives have been hammering home _ conservatives have been hammering home that _ conservatives have been hammering home that message and more than hinting _ home that message and more than hinting that labour will have to raise _ hinting that labour will have to raise taxes. and what we've seen is that hasn't— raise taxes. and what we've seen is that hasn't had any impact at all. i think— that hasn't had any impact at all. i think it _ that hasn't had any impact at all. i think it will — that hasn't had any impact at all. i think it will cause labour issues once _ think it will cause labour issues once they— think it will cause labour issues once they are in government —— labour issues in government, all those _ labour issues in government, all those challenges doing it with the money— those challenges doing it with the money that they said will be perfectly sufficient, when all economic experts think it won't be. the last— economic experts think it won't be. the last seven days of the campaign it seems— the last seven days of the campaign it seems like the electric —— electorate are well aware. it seems like the electric -- electorate are well aware. yes, i'm more surprised _ electorate are well aware. yes, i'm more surprised when _ electorate are well aware. yes, i'm more surprised when you _ electorate are well aware. yes, i'm more surprised when you get - electorate are well aware. yes, i'm more surprised when you get to i electorate are well aware. yes, i'm| more surprised when you get to the stage of the campaign, that there are any undecided voters given that the messaging is relentlessly the same week after week. but that still appears to be the case. i was struck about one report i saw a week or so ago, which was from a traditional tory seat, and it was a traditional lifelong tory voter who was saying they had given up on the conservatives this time around, but didn't know whether to vote reform or labour. almost polar opposites. it's a snapshot of part of the problem for the conservatives is that in a sense, people may or some people may have simply given up on them but they still don't know where they might land. them but they still don't know where they might land-— them but they still don't know where they might land. exactly, that makes them very hard _ they might land. exactly, that makes them very hard to _ they might land. exactly, that makes them very hard to track _ they might land. exactly, that makes them very hard to track in _ they might land. exactly, that makes them very hard to track in terms - they might land. exactly, that makes them very hard to track in terms of i them very hard to track in terms of them very hard to track in terms of the conservative strategist ability to figure out what people are going to figure out what people are going to do. so it's really, i think they're coming to realise the full extent of the pincher affected that has come into effect, the conservatives being squeezed from every possible angle. their challenge will be to focus people's minds as much as possible that this is a two horse race, encouraging people not to root vote for reform hoping that rishi sunak can persuade them not to punish the party to heavily and say we are going to get a thumping, we are going to be defeated, we recognise that. what we're asking you is for us to be a still big enough party at the end of all this that we can provide a semblance of authorisation to be able to rebuild. whether or not they are willing to let the conservatives have a halfhearted punishment isn't clear. some people do clearly want to punish them quite severely and even though when you look at the polling, some people suggest that evenif polling, some people suggest that even if they expect labour to get a big majority that doesn't deter them in wanting to punish the conservatives.— in wanting to punish the conservatives. . ., :, :, conservatives. we are out of time, which is a shame _ conservatives. we are out of time, which is a shame because - conservatives. we are out of time, which is a shame because there's l conservatives. we are out of time, l which is a shame because there's so much more to actually chew over but rachel, thank you to you, and aubrey thanks to you, and thanks to you for watching at home. that brings us to the end of our coverage through the course of the afternoon. the six o'clock news is coming up next for that after the whether with ben rich. hello. over the last couple of days, a few places in the uk have just crept above 30 celsius, but no 30s on the weather map today because this stripe of cloud, a cold front, has been moving eastwards, sweeping that very warm and humid air away. in fact, for some, it feels more like autumn than summer, as this unseasonably deep area of low pressure approaches northern ireland and scotland. outbreaks of rain developing here as we head towards the end of the day. quite windy, particularly around some of the coasts. further south and east, largely dry, some spells of sunshine, some warmth holding on for a time in eastern england. but these are the temperatures we can expect for the end of the afternoon, 13 in stornoway, 23 in norwich and london. and then, as we head into the evening, while these outbreaks of rain push across northern ireland into western parts of scotland, wind gusts of a0, a5, maybe 50mph. so blustery through the evening across the northern half of the uk. furthersouth, more in the way of dry weather. some clear spells to take us into friday morning. temperatures generally holding up in double digits for most of us, but not as humid as it was last night across some southern and eastern parts. tomorrow, a day of sunny spells and showers, really, the showers, most plentiful across the northern half of the uk. could be some really heavy, thundery ones in the north east of scotland. still not feeling too bad if you get yourself into some sunshine. temperatures across south—eastern parts of england up to around 22 celsius. more like 16 for glasgow, 17 celsius there in belfast, though certainly cooler than it has been for many. into the weekend, though, we'll continue to see some spells of sunshine. where you get into some sunshine, although temperatures will be a bit lower than they have been, it will still feel relatively warm. however, a bit of rain in the outlook as well. this frontal system pushing in from the west will bring cloud and some splashes of rain, perhapsjust fringing into northern ireland, but more especially getting into parts of north wales, northern england, that cloud sinking its way a little bit further southwards. but towards the south east of england, actually, things turning a little warmer and more humid again. 2a, 25 celsius, some sunshine in the north of scotland, although here it will feel a little chillier. and actually on sunday, in scotland, we could see one or two showers, a fair amount of cloud elsewhere. i think the best of the sunshine down towards the south of england. even here, just the chance of the odd rogue shower. temperatures north to south between 13 and 21 celsius. at 6:00: tracked down in luxembourg. the iraqi people smuggler who organised a small boat crossing that left a seven—year—old dead in the channel. we know 100% that you are a smuggler. that you are responsible for the death of this seven—year—old. sara's family had paid thousands of pounds to the man who promised a safe journey to england. also tonight, the metropolitan police says it is going to take a bigger role investigating alleged bets on the date of the general election. an undercover officer tells a court he feared there was an imminent threat to the tv presenter holly willoughby after pictures were posted in an online group. a key former fujitsu engineer tells the inquiry he felt pressurised by the post office during a case against the wrongly convicted pregnant sub—postmistress seema misra. and we speak to one man with the bleeding disorder haemophilia who says gene therapy has made him feel cured. and coming up on bbc news... having beaten the rain in guyana, for now at least — can england keep their t20 world cup defence going by beating india in their semi final. good evening. the bbc has tracked down and confronted a people smuggler responsible for organising a small—boat crossing to the uk in april in which a seven—year—old girl died. our paris correspondent andrew harding was on the beach in france when that boat set off. now after a lengthy investigation, he has managed to track down

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