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Now bbc news, its click. Is 2019 the year petrol met its match . Is the italian stallion lambo 110w match . Is the italian stallion lambo now lame . Are todays best cars electric . Is now the time for us all to switch . Hello, and welcome to a special edition of click. Not top gear, although there are shades of that, i have to say but this week, were not talking petrol cars like these, we are talking about electric ca is these, we are talking about electric cars like these. Not hybrid, not hydrogen or anything else. This week, it is pure electric. Sure, there are other ways to power your car which i could for the environment. Go check them out by all means but this is the year that all means but this is the year that all electric has really taken off. More people are thinking about evs than ever before so in this show, we are asking, is now the right time to switch . This we will look at the cost of buying and running them, how far they can go and ask if there is clea n far they can go and ask if there is clean and green as they might seem. Mark is going to be going for the ride of his life and he is going to be help track down what happens to batteries when we are done with them. And dan is going to be reporting on the shiny new models coming toa reporting on the shiny new models coming to a showroom near you soon. But first, there is lara with a reminder of how we got here. In recent times, all electric took off with the rise of tesla. 2007 saw its first car, the roadster, and yes, thats down on the passenger seat. 2011 saw nissan and mitsubishi create much more of audible all electric cars. Belief and my ev and yes, that spencer the driving seat. But since then, its been a bit stop start for all electric. Ford killed off its focus electric last year General Motors had limited success with the chevrolet bolt. And although renault launched the popular zoe, many other big european carmakers have been quieter than an electric motor until this year. History lesson, done. 0k, dan has been to see europes all electric fight back at this years frankfurt motor show. There was really only one big question for the big execs at the huge german Car Companies at the worlds biggest motor show. Why are they ten years behind tesla in offering us and all electric car . Not each time the fastest or the earliest but if we come, we come, we come very strong. Earliest but if we come, we come, we come very strong. Tesla, a company that has been solely focused on electric vehicle production, you have to give them credit for blazing the trail but if you look at other entries on the market base, from other companies that also do normal cars, so to say, this is really the first time youre getting long range, fully usable, everyday usable electric vehicles coming from mainstream manufacturers. Right, so they wanted to a set. Well, the sta kes a re they wanted to a set. Well, the stakes are high. Electric may only represent 3 of all new car sales last year but vw have taken a close look at them and reckon its the future. Well its obviously not real. These cool designs actually for the future, maybe. Real. These cool designs actually forthe future, maybe. Each real. These cool designs actually for the future, maybe. Each car manufacturer rings out some concept ideas. Concentric interestingly on the volkswagen stand, they were all electric. The real car they were launching was the ids, sort of an electric golf, with a 3110 mile range depending on the exact model with prices starting from a competitive 30,000 euros. And a first from vw. They will guarantee the battery for eight years, meaning that if it loses more than a quarter of its full charge when new, they will replace it. But will car buyers trust a firm that swindled the world when it lied about the illegal level of harmful emissions in its own diesel its own diesel car spat out . We invested a lot, really to fulfil our commitment to the c02 targets and its notjust only the c02 targets during driving. For example, the cells after a normal life cycle of a car, which is maybe eight years, nine years, the battery cells are still healthy and you can use them, for example, for a second life. We will offer the customer in not all but most of the european countries, we are able to offer contract countries, we are able to offer co ntra ct to countries, we are able to offer contract to use green energy also during the driving. Audi hasnt done much in the way of electric in the past ten years either although now they have this. Sorry, thats another concept car. Now they have this. Theyve started with the popular style family suv butted more than £70,000, can many families afford it . Yeah, i think there is this perception in the market that up this perception in the market that up to pay more of the electric version of the same size vehicle than i would for gas or diesel. What you are going to see is at least with audi, were going into a lot lower segments in order to make electrification much more affordable. There arent many families that could afford 90,000 euros for a car. Sure there are. The eat what started selling this year and has a range of 320 miles and will bejoined by and has a range of 320 miles and will be joined by sportier, and has a range of 320 miles and will bejoined by sportier, more expensive gt model next year with a mid range suv. Think sort of 03. Slated for 2021. Over at mercedes i found something much more affordable. The new smart e042 caprio blows your hair rather than the budget and to switch over £25,000 but will struggle to do a 90 £25,000 but will struggle to do a 90 mile round trip without plugging in. Itjoins their eqc offering which im told will be joined in. Itjoins their eqc offering which im told will bejoined by over half a dozen all electric models next year. But surely somethings will never the roar of a Combustion Engine. Now, when land rover decide to make the defender electric, then you know theres a trend going on. It also updates its own software over the year. Even the good Old Fashioned own software over the year. Even the good Old Fashioned black own software over the year. Even the good Old Fashioned black cab, he is seen good Old Fashioned black cab, he is seenin good Old Fashioned black cab, he is seen in white, has made thejump good Old Fashioned black cab, he is seen in white, has made the jump to electric, with 20,000 expected to sell across europe next year, costing drivers less to run. I wonder if taxi fares will fall as well. And then there were the sports ca rs. Well. And then there were the sports cars. Lamborghini told me they have no intention of releasing an all electric model any sign expect anytime soon. Ferrari have a hybrid plan for 2022 but not an all electric. So it fell to portia to ta ke electric. So it fell to portia to take everyones away, and they did. The tyke and is porsches first all electric car and it shifts. 0 62 and 3. 2 seconds with a range of up to 279 miles and a guarantee on the battery. 0k, 279 miles and a guarantee on the battery. Ok, its £115,000 but thats a 12 k saving on its petrol performance equivalent, the 911 actual turbo. Good value may be but i have a feeling that its that vw thatll turn out to be super competitive is an entry model for most. Talking of competition, we saw porsches entry into the electric car market in dans report there but we wa nted car market in dans report there but we wanted to test for ourselves just how quick an electric car could be. So weve set up a race. This is a lamborghini hurricane super trofeo. It delivers over 600 horsepower. Its up against a saloon car from tesla, the model s. It supports all wheel drive but its twice as heavy as the lam and it sells for about a third of the price. A short drag is just enough for both cars to reach 62 miles per hour, the Industry Standard for measuring exhilaration. Both cars are in our fastest set ups and whatever happens today, we recommend you dont try this at home. We have several Safety Measures in operation. Most of all, johnny is a professional racing instructor here at adrift limits. He does this day in and day are to scare the living daylights out of members of the public. In the passenger seat will be mark ensuring airplay and probably screaming his head off and who can we get to give one of the finest sports cars are run for its money in a tesla . Its only top gears the stig. Sorry, the stig wasnt available so im standing in. Is that 0k . Sorry, it is only clicks lara lewington. Drivers, start your engines. Ready im a passenger here. Myjob is really simple. I just im a passenger here. Myjob is really simple. Ijust have to observe. Whoa i did break a bit early but i so clearly one. Im no expert but that was no contest. Thank you, i was not expecting to beat you. Oh, my words. What . I know i cant believe it, you smashed me. That was so much fun. It was brilliant. Congratulations. Johnny, commiserations. This, you area johnny, commiserations. This, you are a professional racing driver. In your opinion, why did that beat this . Its absolutely mad, isnt it . I couldnt believe it. It all boils down to the fact that that is electric so the power band is always there, its instantaneous. To be fair, in the lamborghini, i got three gears to travel through but that, straight line, boom, allthe way. 0ver that, straight line, boom, allthe way. Over this distance, that, straight line, boom, allthe way. 0verthis distance, doesnt stand a chance, to be honest. Its always good to be the tesla, hands down. Johnny, thanks. Did you see it . Did you blink . Here it is again. Three, two, one, go hello, and welcome to the weekend tech. It was the week that twitter admitted let Third Party Advertisers see personal details provided by a counter security. The firm said its addressed the problem but did not say how many users had been targeted. Apple approved and then blocked a controversial hong kong protest a p p blocked a controversial hong kong protest app following mounting pressure from china. The crowd sourced up tracks Police Patrols and teargas use amidst political unrest in the region. In the brains behind the lithium iron battery won the nobel prize for chemistry nearly 30 yea rs nobel prize for chemistry nearly 30 years after their invention first hit the market. The battery today powers everything from mobile phones and laptops to electric cars. Global professional racing club the Drone Racing League has produced its first ever autonomous tone. It features four cameras, four processes and in nvidia processor. It is a battle with al systems with the winner taking ona with al systems with the winner taking on a human pilot. And finally, how about a spot of lab growing space meet . An israeli culture start up helped astronauts on International Space station the first ever space meet 248 miles from earth. This isnt ready for human consumptionjust earth. This isnt ready for human consumption just yet but who knows, it could taste out of this world. Light bulbs in our homes, planes that take us on holiday, navigating the modern world leaves a lasting impression on our planet. In the uk, one third of emissions are produced by gas guzzlers on the ground in the air. So the move electric vehicles should help reduce our carbon footprint. Power stations rather than petrol pumps provide the fuel for electric vehicles, but is this enough to help us save the planet . The mixture of fuel is used in National Power grid varies by country. for instance gets most of its electricity from burning fossil fuels, whereas frances is a nuclear, leading to a much lower carbon footprint. The uks power stations are fuelled by a mixture of fossil fuels, nuclear and renewables. So there is still work to be done to reduce carbon emitting power stations. It is not simply about switching to electric cars. But even when you account for that and even when you account for all the energy and materials and resources that are going into manufacturing the batteries, the total footprint, the life cycle footprint per kilometre of an easy is on average lower than internal Combustion Engine vehicle. As long as you are charging vehicles when there is plentiful wind, nuclear and sun generating on the system, actually electric cars get cleaner and cheaper by their very nature. But if everybody scraps their fossil fuel burning motor in favour of an electric set of wheels, would the grid really be able to cope . Electric set of wheels, would the grid really be able to cope . M electric set of wheels, would the grid really be able to cope . If we make the assumption that people plug in their vehicles when they come home, than what we find is that peak requirement means that we need Something Like 15 20 large power stations having to come online for that area. If we move to a system where actually we shape when the charging actually happens within the vehicle, we can more than adequately cover the total Energy Required for you to do your dailyjourneys, it just happens slightly later in the evening or early in the morning. Just happens slightly later in the evening or early in the morningm we are evening or early in the morningm we a re really evening or early in the morningm we are really going to embrace a cleaner, Carbon Emissions free world we may have to think about transport com pletely we may have to think about transport completely differently. There are some things that are still true even ina some things that are still true even in a world to electric. It is better to walk, but to cycle, better to ta ke to walk, but to cycle, better to take public transport. If youre going to take a car, take a small car. If you are going to take a small car, take a small electric car. These things all still apply. Big part of the green equation is about recycling. So mark has been investigating what happens to the batteries when they fade or when the car is headed for the scrapheap . Most of the major Motor Manufacturers are guaranteeing the life of the batteries in their new evs for eight years or 100,000 miles. Some researchers suspect the lithium ion batteries used in electric vehicles could last much longer than that though. Ultimately we are going to have to deal with batteries at the end of their useful life. Not only will we have to deal with the batteries is a waste problem, the batteries themselves contain valuable materials, critical materials, and so it really is very much in our interest is to try and recover these and reuse them as many times as we can. The uk government is times as we can. The uk government is has passed the faraday institution, an independent National Battery Research Institute with exhilarating ev growth through innovations in battery technology. Birmingham university is leading a project on Battery Recycling in partnership with faraday. There is every reason to think that we can actually improve and make these processes a lot more efficient, and thatis processes a lot more efficient, and that is important because the whole point of course of the electric revolution is to stop c02 point of course of the electric revolution is to stop co2 emissions. At the moment there are only a few places in the world that are able to recycle ev lithium ion batteries. This place in belgium has the ability to recycle batteries from la pto ps ability to recycle batteries from laptops and mobile phones. It has added ev batteries to its repertoire of recyclables. It is basically a combination of hydro and hero metallurgy, it is a unique in house built process and we are actually able to refine cobalt, nickel, lithium and copper and also residue of rare earth elements. And these metals of rare earth elements. And these m eta ls ta ke of rare earth elements. And these metals take and they can infinitely be recycled, they dont lose their qualities and can be easily reused in new applications. Recycling old electric car batteries might seem like the most obvious thing to do with them. Butjust because their days out on the open road might be over, that doesnt mean the batteries themselves cant still be useful. 0ld nissen leaf batteries are helping to power parts of the stadium in amsterdam. The same kind of technology could be used to power homes or even be used as Power Supplies in disaster zones. Many of the batteries once they come out of a vehicle, that is quite important if you are actually trying to drive a car. But they are still perfectly good for another ten years in other Energy Storage applications. Whether it is recycling or reuse, all of these technologies could help make motoring considerably more environmentally friendly. That was marked on the huge amount of work that still needs to be done to recycle the batteries inside electric cars. Right, this is vicky, hello, she is a long time motoring journalist and now you specialise in electric vehicles, you are here to a nswer electric vehicles, you are here to answer some of your questions, so letsjump in answer some of your questions, so lets jump in the jag. Answer some of your questions, so letsjump in the jag. So earlier we heard that battery warranties are eight years, which i guess is good news, but do you think it should be the worry of the owner that these batteries might not last much longer than that . Do you think we might start leasing cars instead of owning them in the future . No more so than we do already, a lot of people lease ca rs we do already, a lot of people lease cars or whether they are electric or not these days, and i would add, most electric cards have battery warranties of eight years or 100,000 miles, but that does not mean you have to throw the car away after that, battery life is proving to be very good, but the warranty is that for peace of mind, it does not mean that after eight years your car wont work any more. We receive a few questions from reviewers saying they dont have private parking, they dont have private parking, they live in apartments or they park on the street, out of they charge electric vehicle . If you cant charge at home, if you dont have offstreet parking, some apartments do have hubs these days being built m, do have hubs these days being built in, you have to check where charges are and decide whether you can rely on those public charges are not. Here is a popular question, i want to know the answer as well, how much does it cost to fill up an electric car compared to a petrol tank . On average 50 kilowatt hour battery it will cost about £7 develop at a normal domestic charger at your house. How many miles when you get . The new renault zoe will do about 200 miles in real World Driving and that has a 52 kilowatt hour battery, so that works out at about 50 p per mile, and a diesel or petrol car equivalent will look more like 11 15p per mile. So it is about one third cheaper. Do we have enough charging stations in the uk . We have a lot of charging stations in the uk, we have about 10,000 station and 26,000 charging plugs. I think we need more, certainly in rural part, it is not that bad in these days. Petrol car will drive further if it is motorway driving than it will if it is open driving stop is at the same with electric cars or is a mile a mile regardless of where it is done . It is flipped, it is one of the things that can catch people out with electric cars. Electric cars are with electric cars. Electric cars a re less with electric cars. Electric cars are less efficient in the motorway than they are around town, you get less break regeneration and their trick major is spinning fast on the motorway, because it doesnt have gears. You get less range of the motorway than in town. Vicki, thank you for your time, and some of the ride, thank you for the offer. Info. Wejust ride, thank you for the offer. Info. We just have time left to check out a brand new set of charging stations. Dan has been to see europes fastest, in milton keynes. Beware, not all electric ca rs keynes. Beware, not all electric cars charge up the same rate. Not so important right now as most of the 10,000 or so charging stations in the uk after a fairly slow fill up time. But a new set of charges promised to fill your batteries at a stupidly rapid race pace. If you bought a car that can handle it. Most of the uks fast charging stations operate at about 50 kilowatts. That is enough to fill a family carup to kilowatts. That is enough to fill a family car up to about 80 in roughly 45 minutes, depending on conditions. These new superchargers, though, promised to cut that time to just eight minutes. We are saying that high power charging will be identical to petrol engine cars, they will be no difference, it will be easy, simple and seamless. But there is a catch. Not one of these new arctic cars released this year are built to take charge that quickly. Although the pump will automatically reduce the power to match what the vehicle can manage. This current car on sale now will charge at 150 kilowatts in around 30 minutes orjust under, further down the line in about a years time there will be another vehicle that comes which can do that another ten minutes, with this much faster charger 40 of these souped up charging stations will roll out across the uk between our and the end of next year, offering many ev motorists are much quicker charge, evenif motorists are much quicker charge, even if it will take a year or two before they can be used on full power. Im afraid thats all the time we have to talk electric. Are you convinced it is time to switch, or do you still have doubts . Lets continue the conversation on social media, we are on youtube, facebook, instagram and twitter. Thank you for watching this special programme, and we will see you soon. Hello. Overall the weather this weekend is not looking ideal, very changeable, a mixed picture throughout the uk, but there is some sunshine on offer too. We will concentrate on the rainfall first, it could be quite heavy again across southern areas of the uk, already the west country has seen a fair bit of rain in the last 24 hours, there could be some flooding during the next day or so again from this weather front that stretches right out from the atlantic across into germany and the baltic as well, it is kind of stuck here, a Conveyor Belt of cloud and moisture that keeps bringing more and more rain, pushed by quite a powerful jetstream, it is stuck in this place whereas to the south of the jetstream across a large chunk of the continent, they are enjoying some fine, warm autumn weather. But here in the uk we have that autumn chill. So for the early hours we have cloud and rain across the south, central parts of the uk, clear spells here, whereas scotland and Northern Ireland a scattering of showers. In the south it is still relatively mild, i suppose you could call it, 12 degrees in london, chilly in the north east of england, only six degrees. Lets look at the morning forecast, we have cloud and rain across the south, at times it will be quite heavy, and take a look at the weather across much of wales, the midlands, northern england, much of scotland and Northern Ireland, absolutely fine, beautiful weather there with sunshine in belfast, newcastle, edinburgh, i bit of a chill in the air here, temperatures may be around 13 or 14 degrees in the south, very far south, i think temperatures will be around 15, 16. The weather front is still with us through saturday night, but saturday night into the early hours of sunday that starts to move a little further north and not only that, we have a further weather front heading our way, so it is a real mishmash of cloud, these areas of rain moving across the uk on sunday, i think most of us will catch some rain on sunday, but with a tendency for the weather to improve somewhat through the day across the south, so it may turn up actually quite bright if not sunny for places like portsmouth, maybe even the south east as well, while the rain moves a little bit further north. A real mixed day i think on sunday. On monday, sunday into monday we will start to see more weather fronts coming off the atlantic so you get the message, it is a whole succession of weather systems that just keep coming our way and there are gaps in between so you can see monday actually, at least for a large chunk of the day, central areas of the uk looking fine but then as this rain moves towards Northern Ireland and the south once again, fine weather in the east on monday. This is bbc news. Our top stories 100,000 people flee their homes in Northern Syria as turkey steps up its assault against the kurds, according to the un. New revelations in the impeachment enquiry against donald trump. The former ambassador to ukraine tells investigators the president wanted her fired. Wildfires in california. The eu agrees to intensify brexit talks with the uk but both sides say there is still plenty of work to do. And one mans marathon mission. Can he break the 2 hour barrier in

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