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Its sunday the 6th of october. Our top story. Borisjohnson has Boris Johnson has urged borisjohnson has urged the European Union to so it is willing to compromise on a brexit deal. Writing in two sunday newspapers, he says his proposals are picking up support among mps on all sides. Lets speak to our political reporter. Is there any sense that this new deal is gathering any momentum . In his article, borisjohnson gathering any momentum . In his article, Boris Johnson calls gathering any momentum . In his article, borisjohnson calls on us tojoin at the article, borisjohnson calls on us to join at the negotiating table in a spirit of compromise and cooperation. He uses the analogy of the ukjumping to an island in the middle of the river and he wants the eu to do the same. There were some calls for showing a vote of support, in parliament, but there are no plans for that to happen. In his article, borisjohnson suggests omentum is building among parliamentarians for his deal. He says there is support from every wing of his party, from the dup and from some labour mps. Now how likely is the eu to make thatjump as Boris Johnson wants . Well, leo varadkar said he believes a deal as possible but these proposals do not form the basis for deeper negotiations. European diplomats said on friday they expected the uk government to make further clarification is potentially over the weekend. But there is still some distance to go. Talks will resume tomorrow. Boris johnson does use his best to insist that if a deal is not reached, then the uk is still leaving on october 31. Thank you very much indeed. Great britains enjoyed more metal success at the world athletics championships indo half, with both the man and women taking medals in the man and women taking medals in the axioo relay. In doha. Heres our Sports Correspondent natalie pirks. Shes had the expectation of a nation on her shoulders, but Dina Asher Smith has more than delivered. Two medals down, one to go. But the relay hasnt always gone britains way. Great britain and Northern Ireland and it looks like it could be tricky again. A last minute injury saw asha philip drafted in, to kick things off. So asha philip, United States outside her. And shes lost a little bit of ground here. Dina was swapped from the last leg to second, charged with chasing jamaicas 100 metre world champion, Shelly Ann Fraser pryce. But she was long gone, and by the time the baton reached daryll neita, britain was in a straight fight for second. Jamaica take the gold, Great Britain, silver, United States, the bronze. Remarkably, despite ripping up the script, britains women delivered the silver medal in back to back championships in a time just short of the national record. But would the men also be jumping for joy . Britain where the defending champions, but the speed of the American Team was ferocious and there would be no catching them. Its United States, gold, silverfor Great Britain and Northern Ireland, bronze forjapan. It was a blisteringly fast european record, no Golden Moment this time, but silver selfies felt as sweet. Thats two silver medals, one for britains women, and one for britains men. And it means that Dina Asher Smith ends these championships with three medals. We all handled the situation, like, fantastically. I think its a testament to how much experience youve all got as a squad. It means shes now the first british athlete to win three medals at the same World Championships, with a little help from herfriends. Natalie pirks, bbc news, doha. We will be speaking to the relay teams during the course of breakfast this morning, live in doha, in a few minutes time. Roman catholic bishops are gathering at the vatican this morning for the start of a 3 day meeting which will include discussions on whether to allow married men to become priests. The move, which would break centuries of tradition, would help to alleviate a shortage of clergymen. David willey has been reporting at events at the vatican for nearly 50 yea rs. Events at the vatican for nearly 50 years. Good morning to you, david. Good morning. Thank you forjoining us on good morning. Thank you forjoining us on breakfast. Sorry to remind you about the length of your career, but i guess in many ways you would understand better than many just i guess in many ways you would understand better than manyjust how historic this decision could be . Well, its very interesting. I think it marks a difficult moment or pope francis, because he is under attack from a certain number of rather limited number of traditionalists in the Catholic Church to see this meeting as something that which could be they even accusing him of possible heresy. They say that the traditional teachings, his neglecting them, instead insisting on the problems of amazonia, the undersigned region, where we know the amazon region, where we know the future Climate Change may be dependent on the results of the efforts, with the rest of the world to persuade the political leaders are particularly the leader of brazil, to change his policies there. There is a very wide ranging discussion which will embrace both ecology and dogma and church principles. So, its a very important moment in the history of the roman Catholic Church under pope francis. We shall have to see how it goes on. It is going to last for three weeks, this meeting. Goes on. It is going to last for three weeks, this meetingm goes on. It is going to last for three weeks, this meeting. It is a change is likely, do you think . No. I dont think so. But its all part ofa i dont think so. But its all part of a there is a sort of gripping change in emphasis creeping, we had the appointment of new cardinals from all over the world. They come from all over the world. They come from most of them come from very poor countries, developing countries. So there is a new emphasis by headquarters here in rome on the importance of listening to the voices of the underprivileged, the poor, and people like those living in amazonia, who are threatened by Climate Change. Thank you david willey, talking to us live from rome. 99 people have now died in clashes between demonstrators and Security Forces in iraq, prompting the United Nations to demand an end to the violence. Protests against unemployment and government corruption began in baghdad on tuesday and have since spread to the south of the country, with troops using live rounds and tear gas on the crowds. The uns top official in iraq says those responsible for the deaths must be prosecuted. More demonstrations are expected in hong kong today, as pro democracy lawyers try to overturn a ban on protestors wearing face masks. Some trains are running again after the Public Transport Network was suspended yesterday, following serious clashes between protestors and the police. Hong kongs chief executive, carrie lam, described the moment as a very dark night. Mental Health Patients are at increasing risk due to poor Treatment Facilities and ageing buildings, thats according to new evidence gathered by the organisation which represents nhs hospital, ambulance and community services. Nhs providers found there were nearly 1,400 more Safety Incidents last year than in the previous 12 months, including a patient who fell from a window. The government says that Mental Healthcare is a priority. A bbc radio 1xtra gig in birmingham was called off last night after a man suffered what Police Describe as a slash wound while he was backstage. The event was taking place at the citys arena and being broadcast live on radio. Lets speak to our reporter simonjones whos in our london newsroom. What more can you tell us, simon . Well, the event last night was billed as bringing together some of the biggest names in crime and also in rap. Now, it was due to go on until about 10 45 in rap. Now, it was due to go on untilabout10 iis p. M. , but in rap. Now, it was due to go on until about 10 45 p. M. , but at 10pm yesterday evening it had to be abandoned, and thats before the headline could even take to the stage. The bbc initially said there had been an isolated areas incident. But overnight we got some more details on West Midlands police, they said something happened backstage, a man ended up getting a slash wound. They havent given any more details on who exactly was affected, but for the crowd, it was very disconcerting. They were simply told to leave, they werent given any sort of explanation. Some started booing and asking for their money back. They didnt realise the situation. The bbc has apologised to those spectators but that health and safety had to be the number one priority. Its also said that it was shocked and upset that one of the guests was injured in this way. I think you always there is questions about security. People arriving were told they would have to go through airport style security scanners, there were sniffer dogs, security staff inside and outside the venue, but it wasnt clear what sort of security there was backstage. The venue security there was backstage. The venue has not as they are cooperating with the police. Thank you, simon, talking to us from london there. It was a silver saturday for Great Britain the World Championships yesterday, with both the mens and womens four by 100 metre relay teams taking second place. Lets speak to natalie pirks, whos in doha with the men. Iam indeed. They i am indeed. They were absolutely rapid last night, they ran a european record, it was a fantastic night inside the stadium. But the usa team, well, they had to run the second fastest time in history to be disliked. Lets be too adam who started it off. Second fastest time in history to be asked, lets start off with adam. The americans we re start off with adam. The americans were excellent. We beat the european re cord were excellent. We beat the european record and it wasnt enough. Not the best individually, for many, but its nice to come together with these guys who are like my brothers. To get it done on the track is fantastic. You were up against christian coleman, the speed in that scene was ferocious. But you guys always believe in yourself as defending champions as well. Lightspeed is important, but also the team bonding. Flat speed. You saw the japanese team, they are not necessarily the fastest, but as they are as a unit. America probably outpace us, most of us, if not all of them, but that doesnt make a difference in the relay. Yes, running the second leg. And you were incredibly fast, at the end you had a little incident as well. |j incredibly fast, at the end you had a little incident as well. I pulled my hamstring, but regardless, i tried my best to pass the baton. We got a silver medal in the end, and im happy then. Did you feel something go . Just before i reached the checkmark i felt my hamstring, and itjust the checkmark i felt my hamstring, and it just started the checkmark i felt my hamstring, and itjust started cramping. But i was eager to get the baton over. Are you still planning on going soon bugging dune buggying . You still planning on going soon bugging dune buggying . Im not sure. Will gloss over that. Written werent particularly great at relays a few years ago, but theyve stepped up. I wasjust having a conversation this morning, we went under 38 seconds. I remember 2014, this morning, we went under 38 seconds. I remember2014, i passed it to adam that time and we celebrated with a win of 38 seconds. Now we run 37. 3 seconds, its a european record and the improvement has been massive. Weve got so much faith in each other, no matter what, we pulled a hamstring but we adapted. No matter what the situation, we got so much faith in the situation, we adapted to that. Weve got the speed, weve got the spirit, and we got the skills to go with it. You just see a steady progression, year by year we are getting quicker. Of us an insight into relay camps and things the team has been doing specifically to focus on these medals . You know, the first being is being competitive individually. Weve got so much talent now that that drives imacs be done individually. On the camps we get together and you bonding things, we do high speed practice together and we are one big unit of friends. Asi and we are one big unit of friends. As i said, its a mixture of bonding, working with one another, high speed, high intensity training, and just coming together as friends, really are getting out there and delivering. You really did deliver. Japan looked like a bit of a worry there for a while . I wouldnt want to say we were focused on anybody else but ourselves. I understand that japan is a else but ourselves. I understand thatjapan is a great else but ourselves. I understand that japan is a great team, else but ourselves. I understand thatjapan is a great team, great exchanges, but we have always shown that we could go out with a win. It was a bittersweet moment, we didnt get much sleep, but to be World Championship medallist with a european record is not bad at all. No pressure, but i think you could go faster than that . That is the objective. We have a lot of guys waiting in the wings to join the quarter. We want to drive individual speed down, so hopefully i can anchor a leg. You are excited, we are excited. Just to let you know, britain have five medals now, their minimum target was seven, there are four more opportunities today. In the womens long jump, the mans 500 metre final, and then of course the four x 400 relays, the mens and womens. So there is still opportunity for those medals to be got in that they came for. We will watch holiday during the course of the day. You can it on the bbc and follow on five live and bbc sport. And hopefully in an hour, back to natalie to talk with the women who won. Thats check the forecast. It has been very wet in places. It is also very there are warnings in place for eastern parts of england and scotland. One across east anglia until later this afternoon. This is the culprit which has been almost stationary across parts of the uk. You can see where the heaviest of the rain has been, the dark blues indicating western scotland. Not so bad. South easterly winds with one 01 bad. South easterly winds with one or two showers bad. South easterly winds with one 01 two showers are bad. South easterly winds with one or two showers are around. A glorious start for parts of wales. Wendy is well across the east coast. The rain begins to peter out across parts of scotland and may be Northern England as well. A legacy of cloud and one or two showers was a legacy of cloud and one or two showers little bit remains windy that across south west wales, central, southern england, it turns windy others afternoon with dust gusts of 30 or 40 mph. This is the next frontal system with wet weather across Western Areas and severe gales across the north west of scotland. Gusts of 60 70 mph. This isa scotland. Gusts of 60 70 mph. This is a deep area of low pressure with tightly packed isoba rs is a deep area of low pressure with tightly packed isobars affecting the west of the country initially on wednesday. Then the front continues to move eastwards. Then something brighter follows behind for scotland and Northern Ireland. Here it will remain blustery despite the sunshine with a few heavy showers and gusts around 40 and 50 mph blustery day across the board. Around 40 and 50 mph blustery day across the boa rd. Temperature around 40 and 50 mph blustery day across the board. Temperature is a few degrees down what we had on the weekend. 32 around 15 degrees. That is monday out then. As we had through the rest of the week, it looks very autumnal. Always a south westerly airflow over the atla ntic south westerly airflow over the atlantic was not windy at times and quite a bit of showers. Sunshine, too, but we will see longer spells of rain, particularly towards the end of the week across parts of england and wales stay tuned for the forecast because they could be further flooding with all the rainfall. Remember the ground is saturated and sensitive to any more rainfall. We will talk about dementia. It is quite a moving report we will show you. When you talk about dementia. Most people probably picture somebody living with dementia as an elderly person but the condition can affect people as young as 30. More than 42,000 people under the age of 65 in the uk have so called early onset dementia. One of them is ken barnes, from yorkshire, who isjust 57. His wife linda has been telling us about it. Where are you going to get the water from then . No stop over here. That is it. For somebody who was a builder who could build the house we we re builder who could build the house we were in, he was very capable. It is sad for us all and it is sad for the family to see. What do you think next, do you think . Have a look in there. A couple of cups. Dementia is a thief. It takes away the person that you fell in love with. It turns them into a shadow of the person that they were but they are still there. And you just have to search a lot harder to find them. Ken barnes is 57 years old and was diagnosed with early onset dementia four years ago. Speech is getting more difficult. Short term memory is definitely getting a lot worse. It is all the things that you really ta ke is all the things that you really take for granted. You are looking very dashing. We have always been a team. We met at 16 and next month we will have been married for 36 years. Ido will have been married for 36 years. I do quite a lot of poetry and i think it helps me to express things. This one is called lindas poem. This one is called lindas poem. This is the hardest poem i think i will ever write. It draws on deep emotions i have kept hidden from the light. Usually uplifting with funny things to say that this poem is very different it is a poem about decay. So strong and handsome is what other people see. He doesnt seem that difference, just forgetful, just like me. But they dont know the anguish, the talk of suicide or understand the sadness that he is going on inside. We walk down the street together and we have always held hands. And i see little old ladies in little old Man Holding Hands and we know that will be asked. Once once a week can joins a group run by dementia forward. Asked. Once once a week can joins a group run by dementia forwardm asked. Once once a week can joins a group run by dementia forward. It is north yorkshires only dedicated day service for people with early onset dementia. Manful places far outstrips supply and the lender and can it is a lifeline. Allan it gives mea can it is a lifeline. Allan it gives me a bit of space. Linda. We are joined at the hip. Can is never a burden but it is hard work thinking four to all the time. Thinking for two. How do you feel about dementia . We dont have two. No, u nless dementia . We dont have two. No, unless you can. Im lost with it. You are lost, arent you . It is hard work, there can be tears. I think we still love each other and i think that makes a big difference. It is heartbreaking, isnt it . We are going to talk to a nurse later on who is passionate about improving the care for people with early onset dementia. She remortgage her own the house to set up that centre to offer support for families like that. If you have been affected by that in any way i can relate to those experiences then do get in touch via social media. It is now 723. We have beenjoined by the chief crown prosecutor for the north west of england and he is going to tell us what has caught his eye. Nazir afzal, former chief prosecutor, is here to tell us whats caught his eye. There is a bit of a legal theme running through. There is a lot of law in todays newspapers for obvious reasons. I picked up the one on the front page of the telegraph. One in five murders being committed by people who have been on parole. This is a subject with the figures now being released, the minister of justice but womens groups and charities and people working with Domestic Violence victims have been saying this for a very long time. They believe the parole system is dysfunctional, particularly when it comes to abusive partners. Very often there is very little that happens to them in terms of rehabilitation in custody. They are allowed out on the street early, they continue with their fixation and threats and abuse and ultimately in many cases it leads to murder. What they are calling for is a root and branch overhaul. We cant carry on this revolving revolving door where people continually offend and kill in some cases. It cantjust be donein kill in some cases. It cantjust be done in the way that people seem to think it can be done, just lock them up think it can be done, just lock them up and deal with that when they come out, we have got to have a new approach. This is an interesting story on the sunday times. Universities have always been a hot ad for debate, conversation, differing views. What is this about stu d e nts differing views. What is this about students signing contracts . Some speakers have been denied the ability to speak. I think Germaine Greer was stopped. I think more recently Boris Johnson greer was stopped. I think more recently borisjohnson was told he couldnt speak at a particular university. What the government are proposing is that you are a student ina uk proposing is that you are a student in a uk government funded you could university and therefore as part of your commitment or your contract with us, you will agree to free speech. In effect, it is to somehow calm down this approach towards protest. I am like you and i believe university should be a place where people can discuss contrary views. Also a place where your views are challenged. We spent too much of our lives on social media in an echo chamber and it is important to have those years but there is a fine line between speech that is provocative and likely to cause and generate conflict and speech which is going to get debate. Hate speech, we all know what that is that is where the police need to get involved and that has to be stopped. People want to say, well, this is my view. If you dont agree with that, i totally agree with you about this eco jabber thing. We only talk to people we agree with. Is the way that we learn. One of the many ways that we learn. One of the many ways that we learn. Critical thinking learn. One of the many ways that we learn. Criticalthinking is absolutely essential. We saw the brilliant lady hale give her verdict on the outcome of the prorogation case. It also highlighted perhaps how few women we have high up in the legal world and now maybe this will be better representation. Legal world and now maybe this will be better representation. M legal world and now maybe this will be better representation. It has obvious leave in twisted in the way male have said, we have a female doctor, now do we need a female. People remember the baylie of a certain age. This is mainstream tv where a mainstream lawyer will be dealing with criminal cases mainly and ma mortimer, the daughter of mortimer it, is working on a reboot with a possible rumpole. It is what i see with a possible rumpole. It is what isee in with a possible rumpole. It is what i see in courts. There are loads of fantastic female barristers, why cant we see them on telly . And Antony Gormley who may be people know, one for the ages for the north, is contemplating and working with the french authorities for seven enormous statues and when i say enormous, enormous. They will be up say enormous, enormous. They will be up to four miles out from northern france and the idea is they face britain which will be the last island of europe. I dont know what he is trying to say. He is very much in favour of working closer with europe rather than where we are at the moment and his view is well, 500 yea rs the moment and his view is well, 500 years ago we were one continent and we didnt have a gap between us and france that he was to reflect that. Normally did the statues in the sea at crosby. Wonderful things to look at. If they happen. Stay with us, headlines coming up. But before that, we are going to talk to andrew marr. What is on the Programme Today . talk to andrew marr. What is on the Programme Today . I cant offer you a female rumpole but i can offer you a very Senior Lawyer who is at the heart of the anti hard brexit plot inside the house of commons, trying to work out how to frustrate the Prime Minister who is trying to take us out without a deal at the end of the month. And i am joined by stephen barclay, the brexit secretary, the man himself, he is off today, charging around europe, trying to sell his deal, Boris Johnsons deal, to the eu. Lots to talk about. It would have been unforgivable if i skipped andrew marr by mistake. Hello, this is breakfast with rogerjohnson and rachel burden. Good morning. Heres a summary of todays main stories from bbc news. Boris johnson has urged the European Union to show that its willing to compromise with the uk on a brexit deal. Writing in two sunday newspapers, the Prime Minister appeals to the eu to begin serious negotiations, saying that his proposals are picking up support among mps on all sides. His comments come after the irish pm, leo varadkar, said mrjohnsons current plans do not form the basis for deeper negotiations. More demonstrations are expected in hong kong today, as pro democracy lawyers try to overturn a ban on protestors wearing face masks. Some trains are running again after the Public Transport Network was suspended yesterday following serious clashes between protestors and the police. Hong kongs chief executive carrie lam described the violence as a very dark night. 99 people have now died in clashes between demonstrators and Security Forces in iraq, prompting the United Nations to demand an end what it called senseless violence. Protests against unemployment and government corruption began in baghdad on tuesday and have since spread to the south of the country, with troops using live rounds and tear gas on the crowds. The uns top official in iraq says those responsible for the deaths must be prosecuted. Roman catholic bishops are gathering at the vatican this morning for the start of a 3 week meeting which will include discussions on whether to allow married men to become priests. The move, which would break centuries of tradition, would help to alleviate a shortage of clergymen but has been the focus of a furious backlash by traditionalist catholic bishops. Pope francis has previously indicated he is open to the idea. Mental Health Patients are at increasing risk due to poor Treatment Facilities and ageing buildings, according to new evidence gathered by the organisation which represents nhs hospital, ambulance and community services. Nhs providers found there were nearly 1,400 more Safety Incidents last year than in the previous 12 months, including a patient who fell from a window. The government says that Mental Health care is a priority. A radio 1xtra gig in birmingham was called off last night after a man suffered what Police Describe as a slash wound while he was backstage. The event was taking place at the citys arena and being broadcast live on the radio. The injured man was treated on site by medical staff and did not require hospital treatment. West Midlands Police had launched an investigation. And today marks the end of operation matterhorn, to repatriate uk holidaymakers whose flights were cancelled after the collapse of thomas cook last month. The Civil Aviation authority says it has brought home more than 130,000 of the travel firms customers during the 2 week operation. Tomorrow it will begin accepting applications for refunds from customers whose holidays were cancelled before they had left the uk. Its still early in the morning, only just after half its still early in the morning, onlyjust after half past its still early in the morning, only just after half past seven. Hopefully this doesnt get your heart racing too quickly. There were some hollywood moves on the strictly dance floor last night for the first themed episode of the season. It was movie week and our very own magic mike and his professional partner, katya jones, danced the cha cha cha to its raining men. He did brilliantly, but its tough. In the competition is getting more difficult. They scored 18 out of a possible 40 points for their performance. There she goes. Good improvisation was he doing the worm . The final results for week three will be revealed in tonights show. There were some brilliant performances last night and to hands that were given out last night. Two tens. John is here with all the sport. Teamwork makes the dream work. L good way to start the day. When it comes to the four x 100 metre relay, you do have to rely on your team. Its like that thing of not practising penalties, now they really do practice, practice, practice. These relay Training Camps are practice. These relay Training Camps a re really practice. These relay Training Camps are really paying for the mens and womens teams. Paying off. The medals keep coming for Great Britain at the world athletics championships in doha. The women took silver in the 4 x 100 metre relay, edged into second place byjamaica, but it was a seasons best time for gb and it gave Dina Asher Smith her third medal of the competition. Two silvers and that gold from the 200 metres, but this one was all about the team. I think we all handled the situation, like, fantastically. I think its a testament to how much experience youve all got as a squad. Because i think between us, i dont know how many championships . You went to the beijing olympics, didnt you . Like, weve the experience to be able to sports switch people and it shows, that we almost ran a pb. Weve not practised in any of the exchanges in the warm up area. We heard from them earlier, the mens quartet also won silver, setting a european record in the process. They were only beaten by a usa team that ran the second fastest race in history. The boys were saying earlier they think they can run even faster. Laura muir missed out on a medal in the 1500m, finishing fifth behind winner sifan hassan, in what was a really quick race. And to show you how quick, muirs time was faster than the one which gave kelly holmes olympic gold in 2004. She tried to catch frontrunner, hassan, but was caught with 150m remaining. Hassan, who also won the 10,000 metres title, broke the championship record and was really emotional afterwards about the suspicion hanging over her, after her coach Alberto Salazar was banned for doping offences. I get so hard time in this championships. And i did my best here to show the world, i am clean, im always clean, i will be clean. Do you think i dont get tested . I get tested every time. And i they can test me every day if they want to. Welcome, i will be happy. Its eight wins from eight in the premier league for liverpool, a controversial injury time penalty at anfield, giving them a 2 1 win over leicester. The referee spotted a step on sadio manes foot and pointed to the spot. Var confirmed it and james milner scored it, maintaining liverpools perfect start. Theyre now eight points clear of manchester city, who play wolves this afternoon. Tottenhams troubles cpontinue, as they lost 3 0 at brighton. To make matters worse their goalkeeper hugo lloris had to go to hospital with a dislocated elbow. The top two in the scottish premiership, celtic and rangers, play today. Motherwell are still third, three points behind celtic after beating st mirren and kilmarnock won at hearts, chris burke with the only goal. That leaves hearts two points off the bottom. The days other matches ended in draws. England womens manager phil neville said a fourth defeat in five games isnt acceptable, they were beaten 2 1 by brazil in a friendly in middlesbrough. Debinha scored both of brazils goals, the first a goalkeeping error by mary earps. The second found its way in via a deflection. Substitute beth england lifted the crowd with her First International goal, but having beaten brazil a year ago, and again in february, this was disappointing. A disappointing run. John, thank you very much indeed. We will have more support for you in an hour. We are on the bbc news channel and still nine a. M. Have a good day. Thank you for staying with us, or switching over, if youre very keen. Its sunday the sixth of october. The move would break centuries of tradition and it would help to alleviate a shortage of clergymen. Asjohn alleviate a shortage of clergymen. As john mcmanus reports. Alleviate a shortage of clergymen. Asjohn mcmanus reports. Since he was elected pontiff, this is the first one and like the others, it is said to be controversial. As well as the focus on environmental challenges in the amazon such as deforestation and mining, the 364 participants will also discuss whether the church should set aside its own rules on priestly celibacy and ordain older, married man. That will roost the churchs presence in Rural Regions where a shortage of clerics means priests often visit some communities only a few times a year. Another idea is how to acknowledge and perhaps promote the often central role that women play in maintaining catholicism but there isa in maintaining catholicism but there is a serious opposition amongst some senior catholics who fear this will dilute or change long held teachings. A us Cardinal Raymond burke who has emerged as the de fa cto burke who has emerged as the de facto leader of those forces within the and opposed to pope francis is called for fasting and prayer to combat while he does make what he termed theological errors and heresies. Joining us now is Maggie Webster a senior lecturer in religion and education at edge hill university. We have been chatting away off air that this isnt the first time, is it . We have had the married priests who had converted into catholicism for a while now and they have already an established family and so thatis already an established family and so that is because they have wanted to change for whatever reasons. Quite a lot happened around the Anglican Church around the ordaining of women priests. Some, they have a hybridised thing or some have com pletely hybridised thing or some have completely converted to catholicism. This move on the agenda at the moment other things we talk about in our religion degree at the university and we explore what it means to be religious in the modern day. In the amazon, they dont have enough priests and they are asking for lay ministers to be ordained and they have already an established phone family. The fact that pope francis has put this on the agenda is great because it makes people realise that the Catholic Church, the people in the community of the Catholic Church are being listened to. But you are talking about a particular part of the amazon where they have the shortage. It is tradition but is there anything that says you cannot be married . Well, the reason you would be a priest in the reason you would be a priest in the catholic faith is so that you can give your life to the faith so a person who wants, a man who was to bea person who wants, a man who was to be a priest, will decide to be celibate, decided to be not married because that is the greatest gift you can give god. This is the only way you can do it. Wasnt there is a pope previously who said no priest should marry . At the time, as i understood it, but you can correct me, it was all about retaining property within the Catholic Church so property within the Catholic Church so it wasnt disseminated amongst descendants . The church has moved on since then. This is an example of the church listening to the community and try to evolve with the times. Although in a small way. Great authority on political matters within the vatican. He says it is unlikely it will happen. The senior cardinals, but it is up to the pope. If he decides that it is going to happen. Is the Catholic Church, and i dont want to say anything controversial, but we have seen what the church of england has gone through with female bishops and everything else, it is moving with the times, is the Catholic Church at some point not going to have to catch up . To say to stay relevant . I cant speak for the Catholic Church, obviously. Ithink i cant speak for the Catholic Church, obviously. I think they are moving into modern times. The pope is on twitter. So, you know. Were still looking at the situation with this particular meeting, i think there are 35 senior females but none of them have Voting Rights was up when you see the big events in rome, it is banks and banks of men. Women are almost completely written out of the picture. It is ludicrous in this day and age. That is one of the established understandings of the church, that it is a male discipleship originate from the original disciples and it is going through with male lineage. That is only because the history was written by men. Exactly. Certain people in the amazon where women are lay ministers and they are holding services, so there is a it and the ologist s are arguing for it and have four years. I think you have to go softly, softly. Pope francis has a lot of conservatives in the church and because there are conservatives, you cant just change and because there are conservatives, you cantjust change fast. I do have to say that the Catholic Church has evolved. It is doing slowly, it is better than nothing. I would love to see female bishops, i would love to see female bishops, i would love to see female cardinals and a female pope, hey who knows . You never know. Thank you so much and by the way, i absolutely love the brooch. It is very seasonal. It looks like a big spider. It is a big spider sorry to the people who are phobic. We had spiders in the other week and rachel was petrified. We had spiders in the other week and rachel was petrifiedlj we had spiders in the other week and rachel was petrified. I loved it, we had spiders in the other week and rachelwas petrified. I loved it, i loved looking at them, just not touching them. Thank you very much. You are welcome. Heres stav with a look at this mornings weather. A wet start for many . It is glorious parts of Northern Ireland, wales, south west england, apart from a few this morning. You are enjoying some good sunrise pictures there but we have had this weather front which has brought a lot of rainfall to the north and east of the uk. This is the bump of High Pressure which is moving into bring the fine weather but for scotland and Eastern England, it has been extremely wet and is falling on saturated ground which is no surprise, we are seeing minor flooding which is no surprise, we are seeing minorflooding in places and a lot of surface spray. Watch out for that over the next few days that it as it stays wet. These are the wettest areas. Over two inches of rain in one or two places but it is slowly easing away from western scotland in the next few hours and remains windy across the east coates of scotland coast of scotland. Heavy rain as you can see in towards the south east in the rain extends across Eastern England as well, some bright echoes indicating some heavy maybe flooding downpours but the whales, south west england, the West Midlands, it is a nice morning with some sunshine around the top as we head through the day, it looks like a few showers continue to affect the midlands, may be running into south east england. The rain begins to pull away and peter out across scotla nd to pull away and peter out across scotland but it stays pretty wet for lincolnshire, down towards eastleigh east midlands. Turns windy for parts of wales, central and southern england. Generally mid teens further north. The rain clears away from the south east, the ridge of High Pressure south east, the ridge of High Pressure High Pressure brings a speu pressure High Pressure brings a spell of dry weather and then the west turns wet and windy. Very windy in the north west with gales. Gusts touching 60 70 mph. Lots of isobars on the charts. Not as heavy as the rain we saw last night through this morning because of bit stays blustery and quite cloudy with outbreaks of rain in england and wales. A few showers, some could be heavy and the injury and it stays windy. Gusts of around 50 mph but fairly blustery further south and east. A few degrees over the most recent days. That is monday, a very u nsettled recent days. That is monday, a very unsettled pictures you can see. For the rest of the week, we maintain low pressure nearby. There will be some sunshine in the forecast but it will remain on the unsettled side with temperatures remaining. Thank you, stav. Now on breakfast, its time for the travel show. This week on the travel show. I am in greece with a team of archaeologists, uncovering the long lost city of tenea. We take a dive into the life of a travel vlogger. Plus, im going into battle. Finding out what it was like for the crew of an ancient athenian warship. Were heading to athens to uncover greeces ancient treasures, and the more modern ones. For more than two millennia, the temple of the parthenon has been towering over what has become the bustling capital city of greece. Nestled at the bottom of its slopes, the modern Acropolis Museum houses most of the artefacts found in the area. And this year, it celebrates its 10th anniversary. This museum replaced an older building that had become too small to house the sheer number of antiquities found on the hill. Its ten times the size, its got a unique collection, and as you can see from the queues, its pretty popular. Almost 15 Million People have passed through the doors of the museum since it was opened a decade ago. And to mark the anniversary, a whole new section has just been opened to the public underneath the building. So what are we looking at here . This is part of the ancient city of athens which is at the foot of the acropolis hill. Its actually a residential neighbourhood. There are houses of everyday people, and workshops, bath, private and public buildings. The Acropolis Museum was built on top of this vast excavation site, a challenge for any good architect. But a source of great pride for angeliki, who spent almost two decades here uncovering the homes of ancient athenians. I can see theres sort of a tiled floor in the middle there. Would that have been a room . This is the Central Court out of the house of a middle class house. Quite big one, sort of, 360 square metres. Its an open air courtyard. While archaeologists here have put down their shovels and brushes for good, there are enough forgotten treasures around greece to keep them in work. Greece is like heaven for history geeks like me and if you know where youre looking, therere artefacts around every corner. I am driving to one of the most exciting ongoing excavation sides about 1. 5 hours outside athens. Last year, greek archaeologists announced to the world that they had located the lost city of tenea which until then had only existed on the pages of ancient texts. The city is believed to have been built by prisoners of the legendary trojan war, and this month the excavation continued here. Tenea is a city coming out of myth. Oedipus was supposedly raised here. Agamemnon brought trojan prisoners all the way from troy and established them here. So here we are excavating ancient tenea, its cemeteries, its ancient roads, its houses, and slowly by slowly comes to life. Tourists and scholars will soon be able to explore the excavation site in a Virtual Museum through 3d animations. In the meantime, theres still some very practical work to do. Less than 5 of tenea has been uncovered so far. Digging up the past should keep archaeologists busy here for many decades to come. Itsjust the beginning. It will continue. Without me, but i will always be here from somewhere looking at it. Just casting an eye over, you know, making sure everyones doing the right thing. Definitely. To end the show this week, ive come a short distance outside of the Athens City Centre to the coast. And this place its whats become known as the athens riviera. There are plenty of cool cafes, ritzy new hotels and plenty of course, plenty of luxury yachts. Moored close to the modern yachts, a different kind of ship is ready to go out to sea. The trireme olympias the only life sized replica in the world of the athenian battleships which dominated the naval wars from the fifth century bc until early christian times. This amazing looking galley belongs to the greek navy, and every year, groups of very lucky people get to go aboard and actually row, just like ancient athenians did. This year, im one of those lucky people. So, i better get ready, i think its going to be quite hard work. It took 20 years of passionate research to work out a design for this trireme, as no remains of the wooden boats could be found. She was constructed here in greece in 1987. The important thing for the rowers of the boat, is that they were free citizens. It was a great honour to be a rowerfor trireme. And in such a small boat, we have so many people. They are the machine and they help the boat to move. I think it sounds like a fantastic lot of fun and hard work. Yes. So will you maybe show me how to do it . Yes, of course. Wow look at this. Wow, this is amazing. This is the naval way to go down. Definitely. This ship carries two small sails, just like in ancient times, most of the propulsion comes from the 170 oarsmen staggered over three levels under the deck. Its quite tight in here. As i told you. Here we are going to put your feet in there. So, you sit in here. Whats your technique . The technique must be like that. Lift it up out of the water. One, two. Pull. Yes, yes, yes. Wow i think im going to have very good abs after this. Yes, yes, yes. I will give you the orders. Yes, absolutely. Thank you so much. Youre welcome. Well, my fellow rowers are starting to arrive. So ive picked a plum spot, right in the middle of the action. Im ready for ramming speed. Reaching speeds of about nine knots, or 17 kilometres per hour, this boat was considered pretty quick in its time. And its manoeuvrability won athens some decisive victories at sea. The bronze ram served as the main weapon to puncture enemy ships and sink them. We get a break, every so often. Oh, here we go again. Dramatic strings music. Im looking around. Its honestly impossible to imagine what this mustve been like for the people here who rowed these kind of boats. And to be in battle, three layers of different people all sweating, trying to ram another boat in the open sea. I mean, its unimaginable given how pleasant and lovely this is today. Fortunately, this trireme is now being used for less ferocious purposes. For now, the olympias is going back to the port for some pampering, it will spend the winter there before being spruced up for a new set of visitors in 2020. A lot of hard work with all that rowing, but a good bit of fun, too. Well, thats all weve got time for this weeks travel show. But coming up next week. Mikes underwater in turkey to see if sinking old planes can really provide a safe haven for local marine life. And he meets the 96 year old woman who spent three decades fighting to save the countrys endangered loggerhead turtles. Some said i was mad, others said i was a spy. So, dojoin us then if you can. And in the meantime, dont forget to sign up to our social media feed so you can check out what were up to out on the road, and share your travel stories with us and the rest of the world. Until next time, from me Christa Larwood and the rest of the travel show team here in athens, its goodbye. Or, as the locals would have it, ya sas good morning and welcome to breakfast with rogerjohnson and rachel burden. Our headlines today the Prime Minister urges the eu to compromise on a brexit deal

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