Borisjohnson has become something of a hate figure to a chunk of liberal britain who blame him for what they see as the brexit catastrophe. They think he lied in the referendum campaign, and persuaded britain to self harm, all to serve his own political career. So, mrjohnson is bravely trying to appeal to those core remainers tomorrow his is the first in a series of speeches on brexit by cabinet ministers over the next few days. He will argue brexit is basically a liberal project. It is about pulling down barriers, not erecting them so he means its liberal in the sense of free trade. Apart from trying to heal Brexit Division good luck with that its an attempt to reclaim brexit from any suggestion its all about nigel farage. So, does johnsons argument fly . Certainly, there is a lot of illiberalism on the continent but mrjohnsons problem is that its that theres a lot of illiberalism here too, much of it on his brexit supporting side. So whats the foreign secretary trying to do . Our Political Editor nick watt reports. We are, it would seem, a divided country. In the 20 months since the brexit referendum, the two sides seem as divided as ever but have no fear, help is at hand. The man who transformed the leave cause is reaching out across the divide. Borisjohnson will criticise some ardent pro europeans who he will accuse of trying to reverse brexit but im told hes also expected to put balm on the wounds caused by the bitter referendum campaign. This may all seem a far cry from hisjoshing of the remain camp just a few months ago. Every day a distinguished pink newspaper manages to make eeyore look positively exuberant. Just under a year ago, you wouldnt have known there was a divide that needed to be healed. This year, after a period of intense debate over the right future for our country, there is a sense that people are coming together and uniting behind the opportunities that lie ahead. Borisjohnson now feels its time for something of a reset of the optics around brexit. I understand he has told his inner circle that he wants to rescue brexit from what he privately calls a faragist worldview. Inward and backward looking. As passionate as ever about the opportunities that will be provided by leaving the European Union, he believes you can support brexit whilst being an internationalist, a globalist, and a liberal. The values he says he shares with many remain supporters. Well, im all in favour of reaching out. I think people voted remain out of fear for the short Term Economic consequences. And it is great news that those forecasts were wrong and the economy has continued to grow and weve got morejobs and house prices did not tank and so forth. So there will be some of those who say maybe it was not quite as bad as thought. And we want this to work for everybody. Those of us who believe in it believe that britain will be more prosperous and more free when it is a self governing country again. A leading pro european tory is not changing her view of the brexit is a sceptical that the foreign secretarys claim that it is a liberal cause. Liberal doesnt mean anything. If it means free trade, weve got free trade. We are about to throw away umpteen free trade deals. Weve got frictionless trade. But if liberal means doing exactly what we want and hoping everyone else will let us, then i dont think that world exists. Is hiding all the Vital Information we need to know about what the impact of what were doing might be liberal . I dont think so. Is putting up new trade barriers where currently none exist liberal . I dont think so. What does this mean . If we are trying to make our own rules, make our own laws, and expect that everyone else will respect our laws but we dont really have to comply with theirs, then that is not how the world works. Cheering. A pollster wonders whether Boris Johnson is the right messenger. After being very much the heineken mayor of london, reaching the parts that other politicians cannot reach, Boris Johnson may well regard himself as the best person on the leave side to appeal to remainers. And indeed if he cant do it then perhaps nobody can. But what he may find is that he is not heineken, he is marmite. And for remainers that means a lot of people see him simply as a leaver and they dont like it. So borisjohnson will cast himself as the nations healer. With divisions in his own family, he knows he faces a monumental challenge. But in the end he believes the free spirit unleashed by brexit will prevail. We are joined by two men who consider themselves liberal in their own way. We are nowjoined by the leader of the liberal democrats Sir Vince Cable and the conservative mep dan hannan. Good evening to you both. Boris as a healer, do you feel healed, what do you think about his message . He can be charming and witty but the substance is not helpful. What i cant understand is the use of the word liberal. It is either a deliberate use of language or to cause confusion. The european project that he wants us to disengage from is the Single Market, which is fundamentally a liberal idea, about the free trade in goods and services and freeing up capital movements and labour. The whole point about the government strategy, particularly the hardliners like borisjohnson, the chancellor is in a different position, is about getting us out of that liberal arrangement and creating extra barriers to trade as a consequence. The other red line is about withdrawing from the customs union. Even if you manage to negotiate a tariff free agreement you would have friction at the borders because you have to check. So it is about creating barriers . That is the paradox of what borisjohnson is asking, you have the most liberal trading deal in the world, the eu, and then you are leaving it. So deal with that paradox, if you would. Obviously i dont see it that way, i see the eu as a top down project and there has been a general Global Economic and trade liberalisation which is a good thing, a great vehicle for Poverty Alleviation but the European Union hasnt been at the forefront of it. Being an internationalist and liberal lever is about raising our eyes to the other opportunities. Our exports to the us and new zealand have grown by 40 each, to china and japan, 60 , south korea, 100 , the eu, 10 . The idea that i somehow remaining in a tariff wall and often protectionist eu we are necessarily advancing the liberal projects, i dont agree with. Theres another thing which is important for a foreign secretary to be stressing, a lot of overseas observers and media only see the farage argument for brexit. Theyve got this kind of idea that the only reason to vote leave is bigotry, nostalgia or disliking immigrants but i think its the duty of the foreign secretary to make the case that we are an engaged country involved in many countries and europe. I want to go back about trade, it is abstract about talking about global this and liberal that. Can you give me a concrete way in which we will be more liberal as a result of leaving . I want to know what this means in practice, not the abstract. What does being more liberal mean in practice . Well, the eu applies a lot of barriers, especially nontariff barriers to some of the poorest countries in the world, especially agriculture. Sorry to interrupt, is it your contention that we will remove those barriers and have more imports of cheap Agricultural Products from poorer countries . So the prices in the uk fall, which will benefit all of us, but will especially benefit the people on the lowest incomes who spend a higher proportion of their weekly budgets on necessities like food. Youve given us a good one. Youre not going to argue about the Single Market but do you see that there are things where you can say it works both ways . The Single Market, you call it liberal, but agriculture could be more liberal if we leave . There are some barriers to developing countries but compared with 20 years ago the European Union is a much more open economy than the united states, japan, china and other trading. The eu has led the way to opening up world trade through the world trade organisation. Of course barriers remain. What im not clear about is what the brexiteers wants to do about it. One thing you could do is save, we are going to have the open market, get rid of the trade barriers and just enjoy that freedom. That is an economic liberal argument but that isnt what theresa may is doing, shes charging around the world signing, in a rather pathetic way, trying to get the chinese and indians to sign Bilateral Agreements which fragment the trading system even more. That isnt a liberal way to approach trade. Do you think the british people who voted for brexit thought they were voting for more cheap imports from poorer countries, for more globalisation, for more free trade, perhaps for more immigration from india and other parts of asia and africa, when they voted for brexit . 17 point formerly people voted leave so clearly there was a broad range of motives and i cant tell you what every single one of those people said but plainly there were liberal lever is mac. 17. 4 million people. Not every libertarian is a leave voter. To get away from this caricature of leave as being a basically backward looking project. The day after the referendum i came on this programme and spoke to you and said voting leave doesnt mean there will be zero immigration, it will be subject to democratic control and you did a paxman face of incredulity and banged the table but ive said the same thing through the campaign, has had boris. It is a strange thing that it is such a liberal project that immigration control features are so heavily as the way to sell it to the british people. More globalisation. In the main. In the main debate, the most watched debate, the great wembley debate, boris begun by saying hes not only liberal on immigration, hes favoured giving an amnesty to migrants. It isnt something he tried to slip into the small print. A slightly grotesque caricature has been built up since the vote, not least in overseas media and i think its quite important that the British Foreign secretary should be relying friends and allies that we remain an engaged and trusted Global Partner . Do you trust that . Dan hannan is in a minority of the leavers on this, the government are arguing they want to restrict immigration. You can make a theoretical liberal argument to say we will have less regulation but the government are arguing the opposite, coming to parliament arguing that none of these regulations will be removed. There is a fundamental dishonesty in the use of the word liberal. Thank you forjoining us. Its a sign that oxfam has not managed to close down its Sexual Misconduct crisis that we are now deeply into the phase in which incremental news drips out day after day. Tonight, the actor minnie driver, an oxfam ambassador, has quit her role, saying she was horrified by the allegations. And it was reported today in the humanitarian news website irin that the man in charge of the haitian operation, who resigned from oxfam for himself using prostitutes, had lost a job in liberia some years before with a different British Aid Agency on similar grounds. Roland Van Hauwermeiren reportedly denied the allegations, but did resign. What this latest news does, perhaps, is simply harden the suspicion that oxfam is just the tip of an iceberg. Im joined now from boston by diane mazura na, from massachusetts tufts university. She has conducted a major study of Sexual Assaults in the aid industry. And in the studio we have bocchit edmond, the haitian ambassador to the uk. If i can turn to you diane, there a difference between Sexual Assault and using prostitutes. But what did study find . What we found in the study was Sexual Assault and harassment of humanitarian aid workers was pretty widespread. The most reliable numbers we have is about 24 of aid workers, women aid workers, reported being sexually assaulted while on a mission. And we found that the primary perpetrators are other men who are humanitarian aid workers who are their colleagues and usually people in a position of power, more higher ranking than them. But also male Security Officers hired by the agencies to provide security. And i think one thing we must understand is once you get better reporting and investigating mechanisms in place and people have confidence to use those mechanisms, reports are going to go up. So oxfam is taking the heat right now but i can tell you that this last week, no one had spotted your report and said, this is interesting. Yes, in fact the Inter Agency Standing committee reported on that, a number of other Media Outlets as well. But it was used in part to help point champions to the inner Agency Standing committee to iron out tasks with leading a task force, the deputy high commissioner for human rights and president of interaction and they are in charge of leading a task force looking at how to really address and take on Sexual Assault and harassment of aid workers throughout the industry. So it has been maybe not in popular media picked up but we definitely have seen some action. Now what we need to see is more action. And im a bit concerned at the kind of heat that oxfam is taking right now, it makes it look as if this is an oxfam problem but it is industrywide. Weve seen reports on this. Well i want to stop you there and go to the ambassador for haiti. Good evening to you. What do you make of that, you have been putting oxfam under some heat . Well my government is not in the business of throwing oxfam under a bus. We ongsawtheresultsl