The pilots on the indonesian flight m cast more than 20 times before the plane went down 12 minutes after takeoff. In cas kicked in forcing the nose down thinking it was higher than it really was due to faulty data from just one sensor called an angle of attack sensor. A few weeks after the crash an indonesian boeing executives met with the union for American Airlines pilots to discuss the software. In this very building boeing came in on november 27th and we question. The one asking the question how could you have designed a single point of failure and they quickly came back with us now on the back of a 0. And how responsive but we dont even know the system existed how can we be the backup for something that we dont even know exists. After the crash in indonesia but when the f. A. A. Issued a directive to 737 pilots around the world to use a known emergency checklist if in cas kicked in when it shouldnt. According to investigators the ethiopian Airlines Pilots fumbled that but it still didnt save them. The forces were too bright they were too on balance in the train system that they could then get out of that seat and in my view the a model to check please it wasnt enough it should have mention things that call it the if youll be in crew update. Its not just the Ethiopian Airline pilots though since the crash other pilots have replicated the conditions of the ethiopian flight in simulators like this. And some havent been able to recover the plane using just the checklist. Has already been demonstrated by or very own fleet manager pilots that this aircraft impossible to trim and surf like conditions big difference from the very well you may want to take an umbrella today looks like it could rain to theres a tsunami theres a hurricane theres a tornado. Multiple investigations have been launched including a criminal probe by the department of justice to figure out what went wrong during the design and testing of the 737. 00 max. But a former boeing engineers who worked on the plane says it took place amid a mens commercial pressure. Can you talk to me about the environment while designing the max cost pressure and time time pressure was the biggest. He spoke to us on the condition of anonymity due to fear of repercussions from boeing for speaking out or believe we had customers the would be in. For most that if they couldnt get the airplane soon enough they would go to an airbus solution to their mortgage. So commence pressure on during the airplane to more group as soon as possible he says there was a pressure to keep the plane to the same regulatory requirements of the previous 737 model. Where you build an airplane based off of another reporting differences to additional training on the 737 minutes there is quantum pressure to. Do anything from a cost perspective change costs money in the business. Drives the culture. What creates the cost of schedule pressures is a constant pursuit of the bottom line by the leaders of the company and the leaders of the company of the board and there was that oh worked at boeing for 3 decades until 2014 and then worked at the union that represents boeing engineers before retiring the summer. He didnt work on the macs but says that during his time at boeing changes at the corporate level led to ships in the companys Safety Culture boeing is looking to cut costs on both the top and the bottom of the of the problem youve got to move labor to places where it doesnt cost as much to pay and then theyre going to cut their production costs and look for cuts and all their designs to reduce the costs so that number one concern for their upper management is return on investment when youre so. Target on return investment is your your business company. And even have taken safety for granted. Details of the maxs safety analysis by boeing are still coming out. But some things have emerged in the aftermath of the crashes. Boeing safety analysis didnt test for what could happen if in cash was triggered by a broken or faulty sensor. Its also not clear if the company considered the impact of the software triggering more than once. Boeing declined an interview with us but in a statement said theyre focused on quote working with Global Regulators on testing and implementing the software update. But at the end of the day in the system the supposed to ensure our safety in the air the final approval was in boeing. It was the federal Aviation Administration f. A. A. The Government Agency responsible for certification of airports we learned their fate never performed its own assessments of the system in fact that delegated much of its oversight to the boeing company. This was a complex point ok. Lot of Different Things with the Software System that wasnt even mentioned in the pilots manual how did the f. A. A. Come to the conclusion that it was appropriate. To certify an anti stall Software System the m cas that not only drew data from a sensor that had a history of problems but also that didnt have or done so in addition to federal probes since the crashes f. A. A. Officials have been called to testify before congressional committees asking if the agency deferred too much to boeing for the plane safety analysis the f. A. A. Welcomes scrutiny that helps make us better as you all know the f. A. A. Grounded the u. S. 737 max fleet on march 13th 2019. That decision was based upon crash site findings and satellite data that together indicated some similarities between the ethiopian and indonesian accidents that warranted further investigation of the possibility of a shared car. In recent Years Congress and the f. A. A. Have delegated more safety certification to manufacturers like boeing and outsourcing of sorts. In fact last year 96 percent of boeing sort of occasion was delegated to the company. Supporters of the system say that private Companies Know the latest Technology Better than government workers and that the f. A. A. Isnt staff to do the work themselves the system the delegates authority outside the walls of the f. A. A. Is a system that can work. And ive seen it work and i believe in. Whether its executed appropriately is obvious on the question. Theyve taken it as weve said for over a decade way too far too fast for Michael Pearl and the president of the union that represents f. A. A. Inspectors agrees that the f. A. A. Needs to be staffed better for oversight the point is they have to have enough inspectors to oversee and regulate the industry the industry has the expertise the industry wants to continue to expand thats fine but they have to have enough regulatory ability in the f. A. A. To oversee it that is occurring but union is also concerned that the industry and the f. A. A. Are too close there are people that came from industry that are working in the f. A. A. As people and you have a management that want to go back in history right now industry is driving the f. A. A. Industry also says i want to get this airplane out by this date or i want to get this signed off by this date. One of the questions facing various investigators now is if and how much that pressure impacted the certification of the 737 max these are highly challenging products to make and services to provide so that mistakes get made the question is do you have enough level of backup and thats for obviously what didnt happen i was in the backup either in the decisions i ever made on designs that were were put out there. As investigations continue into the crashes f. A. A. Officials now have to account for how the agencys oversight system failed in the certification of the maps we asked the question and the f. A. A. Told us the answer to the question did you test the m. Cas misfire like happened with with lion aaron ethiopia and they asked in the initial certification no we did not and they went on to say that we didnt because the boeing corporation told us it was so transparent to the pilot that there was no need to test a misfire presentation. And what was even more horrid to hear was the f. A. A. Said so we didnt. Thats not oversight what were the steps the f. A. A. Took in reviewing the m. Caste system and the accompanying train. Because ive asked it now 3 times and i have it be blunt with you sir with all due respect i havent got a direct answer we will get that answer freezer well most engaged in this system throughout the process in detail dont worry about boring me we need to understand that because theres a critical component of this i can write can assure you that the system was examined and certified because it was a new system to the max it was and we retained it and we we had the oversight of that and we certified mr owen with aljazeera once were investigating this. Why didnt the f. A. A. Catch the problems with always and caste system i mean i think the body of that hearing just now should answer any and all of. The f. A. A. Declined an interview but in a statement said the Agency Certification process has quote consistently produce a fair craft design its been clear the system failed. Thats the 1st step to repairing the system the systems failed the systems boeing the f. A. A. Other oversight areas d from within those groups it failed whats the measure on that judgment. Has to crashes its that simple the system failed it failed our passengers it failed glow. The f. A. A. Is currently testing fixes boeing has proposed to the plane. Its not clear when the 737 max would be back in the air. And what it would take for passengers to trust it again. The system of regulations and oversight could almost fill. If it werent for whats at stake. And hundreds of other families know that too well. Who is she like as a mom. Shes the best mom you ever see. Of her kid what. How are you. You know thats what scares me the most. When of course i know how she used to care for her child and. Well i mean of father you know for him. Was able to do both things like a mom and dad. Its not going to make any difference whether a man we are mad or sad nobody cares about that. But this one is in no like bigger than me what were talking about its not about me its about everybody. 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Accuse President Donald Trump of outsourcing Foreign Policy to his personal lawyer rudy giuliani. And hong kongs embattled chief executive is once again heckled by prodemocracy lawmakers in the territories legislative council. U. S. Vice president mike pence says turkey has agreed to pause its offensive in Northern Syria bennett says turkish president. Has agreed to a ceasefire of a 5 days to let syrian Kurdish Forces withdraw from the 32 kilometer zone in the north east of the country thats where to he wants to establish a safe zone where it can return Syrian Refugees and says turkey will agree to a full ceasefire once the kurdish fighters have left the area today the United States and turkey have agreed to a cease fire in syria. Turkish side will pause Operation Spring you know to to allow for the withdrawal of y. P. G. Forces from the safe zone. For 120 hours all military operations under operation peace for the pause. In operation the spring will be halted entirely on completion of the withdrawal is just. We will not stop the operation yet but we will put it on hold because the ceasefire i can only be agreed between to soften states terrorists who are the target of our operations so we are putting it on hold to allow these terrorist organizations to withdraw from the area once they leave the area and completely withdraw then we will start our operation. So i know what it is following developments from the town of actual calais on the turkish Syrian Border and she joins us live now as a turkey looks as though turkey has got what it wanted. Yes in the words of the Turkish Foreign minister we got what we wanted in turkey did the president or the gun insisted there will be no cease fire unless the Syrian Kurdish armed group the y p g which turkey considers to be a terrorist organization an offshoot of the p. K. K. Withdraws from the borders 30 kilometers from the border and that was the deal that was agreed with the United States and according to the United States the why p. G. Has started the pull out was to do still did not get any reaction or word from the white p. G. On whether or not they they are pulling back but this deal has has been announced and this really strengthens turkeys position because turkey on tuesday is going to be in sochi the president is going to be holding talks with the russian president who wants to invite the Syrian Government and russia of course benefits once the relationship between turkey and the United States is is not on a good footing just before the arrival of this high level u. S. Delegation to ankara relationship was at an all time low a leak letter by the u. S. President was described here in turkey as insulting to urge to go on threatening to erdogan and now the relationship back on track to us calling turkey an ally a Strong Partner in fact turkey has now replaced the y. P. G. As its partner in syria so turkey getting the white peachy away from its border and at the same time getting that safe zone that it wanted because turkey was hoping to clear this area in order for millions of refugees to return just a day ago turkey didnt have much cards really because russia and the Syrian Government returned to the north east of syria deploying a long front lines disrupting turkeys plan to create that zone so a stronger turkey in the face of russia but this is far from over. Thank you much indeed zena what a top date White House Correspondent can be healthy joins us live from dallas texas so president seem to think that this is an amazing outcome as he puts it or what about his critics who didnt approve of pulling out of that area and listening to heed to what it wanted but what do they make of all this. Well i should tell you the u. S. President has just landed outside of dallas where im standing now hell be at an arena behind me for our rally a little bit later but he already is doing what you might call a victory lap as a result of the announcement of this cease fire agreement given the fact that his critics had really mocked him openly about the letter that he had sent to turkeys president calling it a joke pathetic no idea how to negotiate with the foreign leaders so the fact that this deal has come about so quickly is something that the u. S. President is celebrating. Im very happy to report tremendous success with respect to turkey and i want to thank president and i want to thank our Vice President my parents for secretary of state by capell great job for all of the people that we sent over the last 3 days we said early group this is an amazing outcome this is an outcome regardless of how the press would like to damp it down this was something that theyve been trying to get for 10 years you wouldve lost millions and millions of lives they couldnt get it without a little rough love as i called it. The u. S. President also thanking the kurdish fighters that helped the United States in the effort to defeat iceland the last 5 years many of the United States and around the world feeling the u. S. President turned his back on those fighters allowing the Turkish Military operation in the 1st place u. S. President thanking them and also thanking president aired a wide big question mark again has been for many days whether or not that visit between the turkish president and the us. Right that it will take place in washington on november 13th there had been some question about that even in the last few hours white house staff think that that was their visit under review but the latest from the u. S. President the last hour is that he believes that visit is back on to me how could thank you very much indeed joining me now is out there a senior political analyst. So. Amazing outcome but the broader conclusion be that people watch this and see that a state can take ground in another state and and then be rewarded and until thats fine absolutely and you know its been happening for a long time since the russian invaded whether its georgio or korean or whether the soviets invaded afghanistan it was very it is invaded lebanon and so on so forth its a long history of it but clearly a point in time. What what anyone would call a kurdish surrender the american president is selling it as an american Success Story although if anything if it was going to be a question of sort on that i mean the kurds would of long ago just give up their arms and left right which they did and i think what weve seen over the last few hours and i think its in some ways shocking because if anyone expected the administration was going to. The president there the one with ultimatum get out or you know face the consequences if anything both the Vice President and the secretary of state went to turkey and basically told the turkish president you get everything you want the safe zone no turkish no kurdish autonomy another in syria improving your subject standing and so on so if he mentioned in unity to the to the kurdish fighters they where do they go in this scenario where they can win this is there a number of things one we havent seen the maps because will the turks still maintain that some 400 kilometers wide and 30 or 40 kilometers deep or is it going to be 100 than some and allowing the could these fighters to go more east more south its not clear what is clear is that the turks are saying as we heard earlier that this is no cease fire that weve just made a deal with the americans in order for them to impose our conditions on the kurds to simply leave and just briefly what about russia and in all this what a way to they threaten i cannot see this happening without president putin i cannot see but some sort of an indirect call or contact with the russians in order to coordinate this kind of thing because as the Syrian Forces as mean assad forces move north under russian guidance we see this thing is happening with american support with the turks against the kurds so eventually the map in syria is clarified now under some kind of a turkish russian american influence and so any solution moving forward is definitely going to take that increases the ration especially now the turkish role and on that i mean the message that in terms of the kind of the geography of the area the kurdish fighters are known nonstate actors the sort who fought against iceland last around 10000 find his way as the americans lost about 5 so its. Inconvenient for the u. S. To to have these people fighting a cause that they were interested in at the time in future will be able to enlist if the help of any nonstate actors will they will they will think this is the end of those kind of alliances i think any any are live the United States or potential ally of the United States is going to think twice now about how they feel about american loyalty on the long term i think even some in israel in the closest ally of the United States are asking themselves what would happen next lets say if america makes a deal with iran will it turn its back on is it in us wise i can see President Trump has taken a historic decision to actually start pulling out seriously American Forces from the hot spots around the world and not behave like a leader of the world in the world and only stay involved in places where he himself the american president has interests such as in israel where the evangelical christians would support him war or the israeli lobby or for example in saudi arabia where hes selling tens if not hundreds of the hundreds of billions of dollars of arms and and other issues so in the us what his strategy is concerned i think america is pulling out from the middle east ali but surely but in us fight is trump and americas interests vital interests of course you would expect the United States to stay. Involved the sheriff thank you very much. U. K. Prime minister is facing a bricks at showdown in parliament after managing to clinch a last minute Withdrawal Agreement with the European Union for his johnson has managed to change some terms of whats become bricks its Biggest Issue that of the border between Northern Ireland and the republic of ireland is still unclear if enough m. P. s will back his agreement when they meet on saturday or here are some of the deals terms Northern Ireland stays in the European Unions Single Market for goods that means checks will take place at ports and airports and not on the land border with the Irish Republic all of the u. K. Will leave the use Customs Union but Northern Ireland will still need to follow the use rules that means that british authorities will apply a tariffs to some products entering the province crucially men