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Same kind of conversation you heard a week or two ago from president zelensky. they re clearing preparing. the mood is tense. no doubt about it and there are a lot of people, i will tell you, jim, i was there talking to ukrainians, two former defense ministers and foreigners and europeans as well not convinced that there is going to be an attack by the russians. the information is not clear. even jake hull inyesterday said as far as we know, putin has not yet decided. can he still decide. can he still blink. he can still go for the negotiation. he hasn t decided. he s done everything and it s made it very clear. it s evident all of the moves he s making that makes it possible for him to go. he hasn t decided and they need to stare him down. very good. this has been going on for some ....
Years. president zelensky and president biden are staring him down and you asked about the off-ramp. president putin can blink and may well blink and doesn t want to pay the price. it s a very high cost of imv invasion. it will cost him economically, we know about the sanctions, a lot of russians will die and a lot of towns and villages in russia will be burying russian soldiers and this will not be popular in russia and so president putin has a lot to worry about and he could take that off-ramp but if he wants to do it, if he blinks, if he backs down and goes to the negotiation which can lead to some benefits for him. sounds like geopolitical price is right that we re talking about right now. i kind of wonder what the price is for vladimir putin, but you ....
Helps only for panic. it doesn t help us. what do you make of that, ambassador taylor? i wonder if he should be preparing his country for war at this stage. jim, he is preparing his country for war and ukraine is preparing his country for war. president zelensky is right about panic. he doesn t want to sow panic. i was there last week, talked to president zelensky and talked to a lot of ukrainians and officials and civilians, people in and out of the government. so far, they ve not panicked. president zelensky has shown a resolute face, has been determined, has been calm, has kept ukraine on an even keel. they are preparing. he told me he s ready, and did decide to get 100,000 more troops under arms. ....
Administration in the few weeks. vladimir putin, doesn t seem the kremlin is indicating anything that the americans at the west is willing to go with and nato is willing to go with at this point, the diplomatic off-ramp. where do you see the potential for an off-ramp in all of this or has that do you think vanished? it s not vanished, jim, there s an off-ramp if president putin wants to take it. i think you re right. it s a high stakes poker game. president zelensky and president biden are staring down president putin. president putin is staring back. another has blinked at this point, and actually, jim, it s impressive that president zel zelensky, a young politician not a lot of experience in government, two years the president, he stood up to president putin, this former kgb tough man in office for 20 ....
Mentioned president zelensky of ukraine. this is somewhat mysterious to me, ambassador taylor, i ll take your word for it, zelensky has been standing up to putin, but this repeated posture that we re hearing from the ukrainians that they feel like the west is stirring things up too much, that a sense of panic is stirred up too much. let s listen to what zelensky said about how he feels the sense of panic is being stirred up and how it s helping ukraine s enemies. let s listen. we have a lot of information, because we are on these borders. it s our borders. it s our territory. you know, i have to speak with our people, like president and say people truce and the truce that we have different information and now the best friend for enemies that is panic in our country. and all this information that ....