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karen fáfreedmant( served as th chief assistantçó district attorney in the manha(ép d.a. s office.w3 both joined me now. michael cohen testified that trump had a lengthy relationship. have a listen. i was involvedñr in several these catch-and-killçó episodes. these catch-and-killt( scenario existed between david pecker and mr. trump along before i starte1 working for him in 2007. karen, explainxd us to the significance of david pecker coming back to testify to the grand jury today. yeah, so, there isn tñ2hp lo of question of factok here abou whether or not payments were made. that s not going to be proven by books and records, including the fact that these payments that were made, 11 of themjfñr while trump w+w■ sitting presmant, were made and false entriesxd we retainers. the question that is really for the grand juryw3 to decide ñiis3 trump involved in these payments? did he know about them? did hew3 know about the purpose? did he know that ....
tim, i want to askxd you abo david pecker,ñi but given what karen just said, i have to ask if donald trump is getting arrested this week after his false claim of being arrested last week, if he s getting indicted this week, you know thd man, you ve been in legal proceedings with the man, what now? well, i think he se1 deeply afraid. everything i thinkñr there s two things motivating what he s doings7■ rightñi now. every donald trump action can either be explained through a self-preservation. he is clearly in self-preservation mode. i think watchingxd allen weisselberg, his former cfo, get fingerprinted and perp walkedq%% and media, forjf someone who thrive sustenance, the last thing he front of the media in a courtroom, and i think he is deeply afraid of that. i think he s also very well aware at this pointt( that evenf ....
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