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going down. one of the reporters who broke that story joins me live, and it was a rough day for a couple of other trump royal figures. trying to stay out of court. why is the senator of south carolina calling the secretary of georgia anyway? all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i m chris hayes. we finally got to hear from donald trump s white house counsel, pat cipollone. on friday, you might remember, he spoke to the january 6th committee behind closed doors for hours. and then at yesterday s hearing, the committee revealed several clips of his videotaped interviews. we are going to play some of that shortly. cipollone s testimony, as far as we can tell, conformed with the broader picture that we have now gathered for many witnesses. donald trump was dead set on staying in office, against the will of the american people, by any means necessary. cipollone was among those in trump s orbit that resisted those efforts in the final days of trump s term i ....
we finally got to hear from donald trump s white house counsel, pat cipollone. on friday, you might remember, he spoke to the january 6th committee behind closed doors for hours. and then at yesterday s hearing, the committee revealed several clips of his videotaped interviews. we are going to play some of that shortly. cipollone s testimony, as far as we can tell, conformed with the broader picture that we have now gathered for many witnesses. donald trump was dead set on staying in office, against the will of the american people, by any means necessary. cipollone was among those in trump s orbit that resisted those efforts in the final days of trump s term in office. now, just ate the obvious, it is a very good thing that people like pat cipollone, and bill barr, and others around donald trump resisted his attempted coup. part of the story that they are telling about how the insurrection came to be, is, i think, wildly misleading. and actually, i have to say, kind of ....
welcome to our continued coverage. the new york criminal trial of former president donald trump. i m rachel maddow joined by my colleagues. also, lawrence o donnell is with us pick we are going to be joined by the star witness for the prosecution in this trial, michael cohen. he will speak to us exclusively. his first reaction to this verdict tonight. michael cohen will be joining us in one moment live. 4:20 p.m. p.m. and it is we, the jury have reached a verdict. 45 minutes later at 5:05 p.m. the jury was back in the courtroom and is seated. the defendant donald trump was seated as well. the judge addressed the four people. and the judge. without telling me the verdict, how s the jury? and yes, they have reached a verdict. take the verdict, please. with the foreperson please rise to the members of the jury agreed upon a verdict? yes. and how say you to the first count of the indictment, charging donald j trump with the crime of falsifying business records in the first ....
election. the way he responded to that is by creating an alternate universe in which he did not lose the election and the country is paying the price. three times. three times? losing in 2020, the new york attorney general case and now the 34 counts. the attorney general case with the massive penalty. you are right to point it out with the devastating nature of the blow in that case. hundreds of millions of dollars that he owes and now in this criminal case. he does not have the option to do it he did with losing the 2020 election. he does not have the option to say that didn t really happen. let s have an alternate universe in which the penalty did not happen, the liability did not happen and the criminal convictions did not happen. from your sense of how he moves through the world and deals with humiliation and failure, what do you think he has left to do that he can do in response to this that we should be prepared for? is going to blame everybody other tha ....