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undercuts the defense of a rally just getting out of hand, and this was revealed by furtive texts from trump s own aides. potus is going to have us march there/the capitol. potus is going to caller fit unexpectedly. it was planned, so it was expected. that text shows how donald trump was cooking up a lie to make it look spontaneous. that s also bad because it shows some of trump s intent by hiding it in advance and that the whole march was what trump turned to after a grave meet that was plotting a military role in a coup in the united states to take over your country, democracy and government. this is heavy stuff. this was also part of what was documented today, where some of trump s most extreme plotters pushed for him to abuse pow we are an illegal order to seize voting machines. his team of outside advisers paid him a surprise visit. they proposed the immediate mass seizure of state election machines by the u.s. military. it got to the point where the scream ....
Was used by this committee. and former prosecutor nick akerman who s dealt with roger stone all the way back to watergate. links to figures but not anyone in the white house. how bad is it? i don t know how bad it is, but you can see links between proud boys and roger stone because of the final we shot on december the 12th. at the end of the big rally for the proud boys you could see stone and tyrie o. holding a big rally. you could see the proximity of stone and him and you can link that back a long way. i totally agree. i mean, i think that the you are going to learn more at the next hearing tying in donald trump to roger stone, steve bannon and michael flynn. i think we have had a number of tantalizing facts that have been put out there by the committee ....
This evidence, because admitting that is like asking to be indicted, and that s what it sounds like this committee is suggesting the justice department do to donald trump. joining us now to kick off the program on this busy news day is the former chief of the famed sdny, david kelly, also full disclosure, my former boss, and the new york times reporter michelle goldberg. we have more evidence to show, but big picture on today and the final point of what the case appears to be building your final thoughts. overwhelming evidence of his intent. a lot of people focus on the notion that, well, trump really believed that the election was stolen, so we kind of want to give him a pass, and we have to find a way to get around that. i m not buying it. the question is whether or not his belief was reasonable. if it was truly his belief that the election was stolen, the question is, was that a ....
Something. and you know there s violent people and one of them will act on what you say. today they drew a much more direct link. that there was phone calls, that roger stone was directly in touch with the people planning these formations and they were getting their orders from the top. right, an operative planned to march on the capitol, as david reminded us, to commit the crime of obstructing the counting of the votes to see the lawful transfer of power. stay with me now. we turn to the military coup. this was called many things unhinged, a major flight, you have july giuliani, flynn, powell. there were people shouting at each other, hurling insults at each other. guys are not tough enough. or maybe i put it another way, you re a bunch of [ bleep ]. the screaming was ....
Instance, hearsay, cassidy hutchinson, a lot of that was hearsay. but sidney powell wasn t. exactly, but you also have witnesses who sidney powell, is she going to really hold up on cross-examination? she wants that cross-examination. she wants to cave because she doesn t want to help the government here. where as there are some other witnesses, cassidy being one of them, may not sustain cross-examination as well as direct examination. i think you re making a good point that this has been more like a prosecutorial brief. some of this may not hold up the same way, although there was a lot today. whether or not you can make a case for seditious conspiracy from a prosecutor s point of view, a legal point of view, just from the colloquial meaning, this was a seditious ....