right there. i m joined by msnbc international correspondent. steve, would that by the most troubling thing if you re in trump s corner? if you break it down on that race, gender, education line, there really is one group there with trump strongly that was there with him in 2016, white men without a college degree. in our nbc news poll here, he s winning them over this perspective democrat by about 45 points, but every other group to some degree is now with the democrat in this matchup. is there any cross tab to explain why the women have shifted and the men have stuck? the working guys, the working women? yeah, it s a question there of, you know, is there something about trump s message that it s not just blue collar, it s more specific to men? i think we ve been talking about that for a while. i think, look, the most significant thing to me, though, is his ability to win ugly in 2016 is really being tested in these numbers. yeah. what i mean by that is when
i work with millennials a lot. and i also, like you said, i raised up the next jerks seals they were millennials at the time. and guess what? they were awesome. they were hard-working guys. they went out there and they have been fighting this war for deployment after deployment after deployment. so i have nothing. i try not to look at a group and judge them as a group. i look at their individual merits and see what they do. steve: where does the disconnect come the way they are presented in the media as opposed to what have you seen. i think if you go out and write an article and say well, we are working too hard and burned out and you group group everyone in your category with you. of course you will give your whole group a bad name. believe me, there are plenty of millennials out there working really hard and getting the rewards for that. evidence. brian: that s true. some say you might be in the midst of the next generation of war fighters. maybe not all of them are up to the ta
we have a tie. beto o rourke and sherrod brown. what did you think of that? it s fine. sherrod my former senator who i thought was going to run, i never believed him. and beto, he s basically unemployed so he has nothing else to do. it could be there is a dynamic here. when he got reelected by a huge number you were mentioning, mike, actually drafted because they need somebody from that industrial area that will appeal to those excuse me white working guys that can flip back to the democrats. maybe the judges were thinking best flip-flop in the sense of who did it the most deftly. that s how i took the question. gillibrand was the worst flip-flop. what would be a deft way of preparing your 1e68 self so you wouldn t be seen flipping? sherrod brown. who likes the idea of running for president? it s terrible. he went through linguistic gymnastics the liekds we haveke seen.
you re not running for president, but you re speaking to hbcus, you re going to north carolina. give all the evidence beforehand and get them to deny it. he s going to historically black colleges. i was at morgan. you would do that in south carolina. smart move. right here, sign this document. anyway, we re going to see who flip-flopped the worst or the best i m so nervous. what was yours? sam, i think sam is ahead of the rest of us on these. a tie. how boring. up next, best flip-flop of 2020, we have a tie. beto o rourke and sherrod brown. what did you think of that? i think that s fine. sherrod my former senator who i thought was going to run, i never believed him. and beto, he s basically unemployed so he has nothing else to do. it could be there is a dynamic here. when he got reelected by a huge number, that s when he really was like you were mentioning, mike, actually drafted because they need somebody from that industrial area that will appeal to those excus
and in those states that will be risk prone when it comes to the economy want to know their president is on their side. only 25% report president trump s trade policies have helped their local economies. according to an nbc exit poll, when you look at voters opinions by region, one the-thif those report their economies have been hurt by trump s trade policies. john, on this, your point, working guys like bobby casey in in pennsylvania who you worked against and sherrod and debbie stavanaug h are the same. they are actually sing crynchro. do democrats have to be synchronized to win those states away from trump? possibly. but that will not be a primary issue for the democrats. what you re talking about are here are the issues.