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And i m quoting here now, many women share some pastoral responsibilities in priests and looking after persons, families and groups. and he also said he opened to see the spaces for a more diffuse and decisive presence in the church expanded. well, what does it mean? senior vatican analyst, john allen s just the man to explain it. he s not saying women priests. let s get that straight, right? absolutely, michael and suzanne. i think in many ways, it is easier to say what this doesn t mean than what it does. pope francis on a variety of different occasions has said that the door to women and priests was closed under john paul ii and will stay shut on his watch. in a recent interview with the italian newspaper, he said also he is not open to the idea of women cardinals. in fact, he said anyone who is calling for a woman cardinal ....
The wine. think about last easter when he washed the feet of that young muslim woman and what that signi signified. think about changes in the catholic church. women priests. perhaps contraception. do you, perhaps see some of those things happening in our lifetime with pope francis? he s very traditional on these things, women clergy. any changes, i think are going to be small and take a long time. as we have seen with him, small changes can have a big splash. what he said about women, for instance, they were essential to the church or what he called the feminine genius is necessary when church decisions are made. it doesn t sound radical to us in the united states. in other parts of the world where women are fighting for basic human rights, it s a radical statement and stunning statement that could have a great impact. clearly, his biggest significant ....
The coolest people. i m curious about this. when we talk doctrine, john, is doctrine untouchable? certainly not by definition, but do you see this as someone who might go down that road in some areas? yeah, michael. first of all in terms of hanging out with cool people, let me say i ve spent today in real space with pope francis and in virtual space with michael holmes. if that s not the ultimate double plate of cool i m not sure what is. look, he has clearly taken some things off the table. a firm no to women priests. he s said he s the son of the church when it comes to teaching on homosexuality. there are other areas where he s indicated openness to change. one for example would be a very painful question in the church which is whether divorced catholics can receive communion. for millions of people it s a real cross to bear. ....
Contraception. he s telling the congregation for bishops that when you look for bishops, appoint bishops or select bishops who smell like the sheep in other words, he wants men priests now who are in the trenches with the people, who are pastoral, not people who are obsessed with cultural issues. thank you so much for your time again. you re welcome. still ahead, a top drug manufacturer said it will no longer pay doctors to promote its drugs ending one of the most criticized practices in the pharmaceutical industry. we ll tell you how this decision could shake a lot of things up. and targeting beyonce, her ground breaking surprise album, itunes fastest selling ever. now target, the retailer, is feeling left out and is refusing ....
The biggest difference he has made. the doctrine isn t changing. i mean, he s come out and said, look, the theology is pretty settled on women priests. that s not going away. i think you aren t going to see he s given no indication, while he says who am i to judge about gay priests, we re getting no indication there s going to be some movement on the issue of gay marriage. but what we are seeing is this message of inclusion. i think that s what s really made him remarkable. ann thompson, thank you so much. and we want to wish a very happy 70th birthday to secretary of state john kerry today. state department staff celebrated with cookies and chocolate covered cranberries, both from the boston bakery that kerry opened and later sold back in the 80s. stealing the show at today s celebration, the kerry s new puppy, ben. he s named after ben franklin, the father of the foreign service, and he is a yellow lab. [ male announcer ] at his current pace, ....