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The economy here in the u.s. is great. despite the president s no end in sight trade war with china, the growing number of economists warning of a recession, the white house claiming they are just plain wrong. for his part president trump is also pushing that same mantra on a tarmac in new jersey yesterday saying that u.s. consumers are doing just fine. i don t think we re having a recession. we re doing tremendously well. our consumers are rich. i gave a tremendous tax cut and they are loaded up with money. of course most of that money went to corporations. joining me now cnn s joe johns at the white house. you get a window into trump s mind off with his protest, with his tweets, et cetera, but also into his worries. does this indicate that the president here is concerned about the economic indicators and particularly how that might affect his re-election chances? right. it s hard to see how he couldn t not be concerned simply because ....
Certainly, you know, an end game is the pardon. only the president can pardon him. in cooperation with prosecutors, usually you have to plead guilty to crimes and potentially do time in prison. they d ask for leniency. only the president could pardon him. in addition to a pardon, though, the president or the organization, the trump organization, could, if appropriate, pay his legal fees, which have got to be mounting and will probably get even higher. i think that s another thing. apparently there s some question as to whether they follow through. that s tricky because i think there s a question as to whether constitutionally the president could prospectively pardon all possible crimes. even before charges. right. so we don t know what s on the table, if anything. maybe that s why we don t know. if he s charged by new york state, that s not going to affect the pardon power. the pardon power, we talk about it a lot. the president s exercised it. i think it s tricky. in addition to ....
Favor. it s one thing to interrupt and heckle. she didn t do any of that. she waited until the president completed all of his statements. it was over with. it s been going on for years and years, reporters then have an opportunity. donald trump likes to talk. very often he answers those questions. this time he decided not to. also, mrs. trump is watching cnn. that all plays into this. it s the truth. i m still waiting, might be a long time, for bill shine, sarah sanders, to call up kaitlin and formally apologize. very disgusting. all right. one conservative out with a new provocative argument. he says, quote, without russia trump would not have won. take a look. he s standing by live. we ll discuss his take, his reasons when we come back. when i received the diagnoses, ....
President, and he has not yet made it. he s not yet told john kelly what that position is. but all the talk of is he going to be fired, that s out the window now. one official told me if that was going to happen, it would have happened already. right now the president looking for a replacement but not in an urgent need to do so. what are you hearing, april? my republican sources are telling me that folks in the white house have told john kelly it s time for him to go. john kelly says i m not leaving, the president is going to have to make me go. leading up into this one-year anniversary saturday. in my new book that s coming out in september, i talk about how john kelly agonized about going over to the white house from homeland security and how he went to his son s grave site at arlington national cemetery and stood there with the former homeland security head, jeh johnson. jeh johnson wanted him to take the position as chief of staff. well, first as homeland security head, but the ....