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He is the great survivor of the years of tory turmoil. Appointed by borisjohnson, promoted by Liz Truss and kept on by Rishi Sunak. Hes now in the final four candidates to become the next leader of the Conservative Party. All of them will make their case before conservative activists and members at the tory conference in a couple of weeks time. James cleverly, welcome to political thinking. Cheers, nick. This the first time weve spoken since that Election Day . How does it feel to go from having one of those Great Offices Of State and all that comes with it, the red boxes and the chauffeured cars and the security and all the rest . Suddenly its gone. So its not that paraphernalia that you miss. Its the being able to do stuff. And particularly in the portfolios ive held, foreign Secretary And Home secretary, theyre both very much in the news at the moment. The situation with ukraine, the decisions around the uks posture, how we further support the ukrainians in their self defence. Weve

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