anticipate that it will be perhaps review of something they tried to point out during the witness testimony, which the evidence is largely circumstantial and they are going to try to portray someone who admittedly lied, not the most honest person in the world, but someone who loved his wife and son. that he is a liar, that he is a cheat, but that he is not a murderer. that s what we expect the defense to argue, john. john: yeah, but the prosecution has to make the case that he s lied about everything else, why wouldn t he be lying about this. so, we ll keep following it and see where the closing arguments go and then the jury deliberations. john, thanks for the update, appreciate it. gillian. gillian: let s bring in criminal defense attorney mark eiglarsh, thanks for being with us. so the judge allowed the jurists to travel about 40 minutes to that colleton county property,
my understanding is all circumstantial evidence. so the prosecutor have established i m a liar, he s a liar, he lies about all these other things, why wouldn t he be lying about killing his wife and son? that is not the standard. the standard is beyond the reasonable doubt on murder charges. not beyond reasonable doubt whether he is a liar or not. so maybe that won t lie when it comes to the jury deliberating. the one thing he was asked by the defense attorney before they adjourned for the day was, did you murder maggie and paul? and he said i would never hurt either one of them. he did not say no. so may be a your answer to give. [overlapping voices] katie: it would hurt but he didn t answer the question and of course, the remaining question come if he didn t do it, who did and the police clearly don t have any other leads when it comes to the man
bracelet cell discreet populations of neurons with tracker on it, that might be an issue. steve: brian, think about this. mayorkas heads up the department of homeland security. why was the department of homeland security started back in 2001, 2002? it was to keep terrorists from coming into the country. so when the united states of america stopped terrorists from coming into the country you would think that they would know where they were. that guy, i m sure people under him know what happened. he didn t want to know because he did not want to have he didn t want to lie. and so it s like plausible didn t. i don t know the answer because they haven t told me because i don t want to know. brian: why wouldn t he want to know? steve: because then on capitol hill he does not want to provide an answer that would be embarrassing to this administration. brian: why is he embarrassing. ainsley: it s his job. steve: the last thing you want is to lie in front of congress. but if you