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Transcripts For MSNBCW Andrea 20240704

i m andrea mitchell in washington where a federal judge has set a trial date for one of the criminal cases facing donald trump, jack smith s election interference case will begin march 4th of next year. that puts it smack in the middle of the 2024 political calendar, just a day before super tuesday. judge chutkan telling the two sides at one point to take the temperature down, as things got really heated in court. the trump attorney arguing president trump is entitled to a fair trial, this is a request for a speedy trial. setting a trial date does not depend and should depend on a defendant s personal and professional obligations, mr. trump, like any defendant, will have to make the trial date work regardless of his schedule. joining me, justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian outside the d.c. courthouse and former u.s. attorney and law professor, joyce vance. ken, a march 4th, 2024 trial date has been set. what does it mean for the two sides? reporter ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Andrea Mitchell Reports 20240604 16:06:00

Counts. people who think that doesn t sound reasonable may have never practiced in a rocket docket where judges take the speedy trial act very seriously. but that s what this judge did today. joining us now from outside the d.c. courthouse, former federal prosecutor, glenn kirschner who was inside and listening to the proceedings. we were struck by the judge s no-nonsense handling of the defense arguments, that they maybe argued too much and went too far in arguing for a 2026 trial date. reporter: yeah, i think judge chutkan gave them every opportunity to come back with another proposed trial date that would be more realistic than april 2026, and the defense steadfastly refused to do it. the prosecutor started with a very straightforward, methodical ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Andrea Mitchell Reports 20240604 16:05:00

Documents, they won t slow anything down, and to ken s point about the judge s comments about discovery and living in the electronic age, when you have 12.8 million documents, what you have is a situation that goes something like this: i email you and ken a transcript from the january 6th committee hearing. you email that, each of you, to five or six people, and they forward it on to people. all of that can come back in discovery, so there s this duplication. that s where computers come in. they rule out duplicates. then you can use word searches to narrow down to the documents that you need. and the government in this case has already vouched that they ve given the defense a roadmap to the documents that they ll be using at trial, giving them a real jump-start that defendants don t typically have. so this is six plus months to go to trial. that s very reasonable in one defendant case with only four ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Andrea Mitchell Reports 20240604 16:03:00

Proposing. it s pretty clear they wanted to make a record so they could appeal this question down the line. but the judge said that it s in the interest of justice and in the public interest to get this case to trial. the prosecution, molly gaston had a really interesting thing to say about that. she stood up after the defense had made their arguments for delay and she said, this defendant is accused of historic crimes and she said there s an incredibly strong public interest in a jury s prompt consideration of those claims in open court. that s essentially what the judge decided as well, that the public has a right to hear this case before the election, and it s not just the defendant s right to a speedy trial, it s the public s right to a speedy trial. she said the idea that the defense couldn t process all the discovery, 12.8 million documents, really wasn t persuasive to her and she agreed with the prosecution s argument ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Andrea Mitchell Reports 20240604 16:17:00

Asking for a speedy trial. i ve heard there s an advantage to donald trump in hearing the case put out there, the prosecution case that early, but also a disadvantage in that it s going to be potentially, if it s not in federal court, on camera, right out there for the voters to see going into the peak of the primary season. right, that s one of the big questions that we re looking at today, what s the advantage to any of these defendants to the move into federal court. there s been some thought that maybe the jury pool would be more trump friendly. i think it s a real misnomer to think that juries decide cases the same way that voters vote. but even leaving that aside, a jury here would be pooled from the county surrounding fulton county. they don t vote significantly differently than fulton county. it s still a heavily leaning ....

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