succeeding. this, is president trump ts top aide steven miller a white supremacist. a former breitbart editor says yes and has e-mails to prove it. we ll look at them. first the war on truth in this country. here to discuss good evening it all of you. max, it seems we re living in an alternate universe where facts don t matter. this week we saw extraordinary gaslighting from the white house and gop. what is happened to the truth in this country? well, it s kind of gone the same place as kind of the sense of decency and humanity you expect from a president. donald trump set an extraordinary example where the washington post has documented more than 14,000 falsehoods. that he has uttered since taking office. that was a month ago. he s up to 15,000 by now. we have never seen a president more untruthful and that really rubs off on his party and his
getting him impeached because he was demanding the president of ukraine investigate his political rival. but trump flat out says no, it didn t happen it was a perfect call. and most of the republicans that we heard echo what trump is saying. max, there are people out there in the public who listen to him and listen to the republicans and they go, yeah, read the transcript, there s nothing there. come on, max. you cannot do they actually believe that? they cannot believe that, no? it s really hard to say, don. are they being cynical or are they being credulous? some are being cynical, some are being credulous, but it s an astonishing. to bring you in, let s listen to manu raju. manu raju had an exchange with the republican congresswoman
and trump claims it completely supported him and of course that s the message people on fox news are getting because unlike this network they re not exposed to competing viewpoints and so they actually believe the propaganda they get, and so trump realizes whatever he says doesn t have to any relationship to the truth. his followers will believe it anyway, and his supporters in congress are exacting exactly on that belief. but, max, i m wondering, though, is this more than an attack on the truth? how can our democracy function? how can we have a democracy when we can t even agree on what s real and what s fake? it s a huge assault on the truth, and it sometimes feels, don, like an assault on our very sanity. i mean it really makes you question, you know, what s up and what s down when trump keeps saying read the transcript, it was a perfect call. well, we all read the transcript and we know it wasn t perfect. we all know that was a phone call with zelensky that s
the gravest danger to american democracy is not an excess of vitriol but the false promise of civility. kput exactly does that mean? trumps reelection campaign pushing to reach out to black voters. we ll see if he has a chance to succeeding. here to discuss good evening to all of you. max, to you first. it seems we re living in an alternate universe where facts don t matter. this week we saw extraordinary gaslighting from the white house and from the gop quite frankly. what has happen today the truth in this country? well, i think it s kind of gone the same place as kind of the sense of decency and humanity you normally except from a president.
no, it s not, don. and i ll agree with your other guest here that there have been much more tortuous and violent times in our history. and the encouraging thing we ve seen tougher times and we re going to get through this. the great political historian meacham said we ve had tougher times and there are tough times ahead but it doesn t mean wae can t be civil. there are a lot of things happening in society creating a debate which could end up in civil disobedience and violence in a nature that doesn t help further the dialogue. i helped start an organization called no labels and the effort was to try to bring people together where we have the dialogue. the true cause of american political discord is the