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Transcripts For CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20240707



president mike pence has confirmed he testified before a grand jury investigating the attack on the capitol, a potentially major development. i can confirm that i did receive a subpoena for the federal grand jury, and i complied with that subpoena. but under advice of counsel, i can t say much more than that. that was my only appearance before the grand jury. i m not going to comment on what others had to testify or not and what they testified to. he s the highest profile witness known to have testified and signals prosecutors are moving beyond the rioters into looking into the trump administration itself. the new york times and the wall street journal are reporting that a second aide to pence greg jacob testified as well. he countered efforts to persuade pence not to certify the electoral results. let s start with evan perez. quite significant developments here. reporter: absolutely, bianna. this is criminal investigators reaching into the trump white house. ....

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Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20240604 15:02:00

Quite significant developments here. reporter: absolutely, bianna. this is criminal investigators reaching into the trump white house. we re talking about two of the closest aides to a former vice president, mike pence. greg jacob, who was his counsel, mark short, who was his chief of staff. importantly, they were in some meetings, including january 4th. there was a meeting at the white house, where former president trump and john eastman, his lawyer, were trying to persuade mike pence he had the power to set aside the election results, and to find a way to seat these fake electors that could keep the former president in office. obviously, mike pence decided that he didn t have that power, he didn t do that. but what these two men were a part of were some of these conversations were the former vice president was being pressured not only by these lawyers who were working for him, but by the president himself. so what we have here is, you ....

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Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20240604 15:07:00

So it will be interesting to see what pence pasrdon me, what greg jacob and mark short fill in. it s usually these senior aides who have the most to say. you re likely not going to see mike pence brought into a grand jury. that s unlikely to happen for legal and political reasons. but it s the folks that were also in the room that seem to be filling out the story. it will be interesting to hear what the attorney general says later in this interview. thank you both so much. we turn now to china. the biden administration growing increasingly worried that beijing could take new actions against taiwan. that s according to the new york times. this comes as house speaker nancy pelosi appears to be preparing to travel to taiwan. and china s defense department is warning her not to. we re live at the state department with details. so rhetoric is getting more and more heated here. what more are you learning? reporter: that s right. ....

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