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that will take time and security. but we can help provide fighters, help provide money and weapons and be shaking the tin cup at the international community to do the same. you have what is happening in iraq and syria where there are reports that isis is just days away from losing control of raqqah. how significant is that coupled with what we are talking about now? it s huge. raqqah is the other former capital of the islamic state. with mosul gone and iraq gone, they have a few little cities, some in syria, they have a little bit of terrain in western anbar and iraq, but essentially they are pushed out to the desert. and they are no longer the force just remember, three years ago we were asking them if they were going to concur saudi arabia and jordan and baghdad was going to fall. given that, eli and sarah, doug said four times in this conversation, this is huge. this is a big deal. we all remember when donald trump said he would bomb the blank out of isis. you have secretary
to the ongoing operations against isis all across northern iraq and in syria? give us a sense of that reading first. i think it is going to be absolutely important in the strategy to retake the rest of the territory that isis has already captured. ramadi, if the iraqi army lib rates ramadi, they ll be able to go to other places north, west and south of ramadi to areas that actually are controlled by isis and they will be able to go all the way to western anbar to liberate a major supply route for isis between iraq and syria. but i think we have to take this with a grain of salt and just wait to see the progress of the iraqi army inside ramadi because as we heard, there s probably still going to be a lot of fierce fighting in there. the victory over isis in ramadi came i guess i would say 24 hours or so after the leader of isis released an audio recording. we haven t independently verified it here at nbc but what do you make of the timing of the release, the message that he s