so they re not paying bank fees and a lot in health, new vaccines. so we re by far the biggest funder on malaria, coming up with new bed nets, new drugs. ..a vaccine, a way of killing mosquitoes. yeah, but if you think about this in terms of ethics, are you driven in your philanthropy mostly by excitement, by the potential outcome, or does it come from some deep psychological motive, you know, guilt, a feeling that you should live a life that s purposeful, a feeling that, you know, you genuinelyjust don t know what to do with this cash? i not only want to put the money in, but i want to put my time in and assemble people so we can learn, you know, what health systems work, which ones don t. i, you know, find the work very fulfilling. i get to learn new things. get to go to interesting places. yeah. there s no sacrifice involved. it s. well, it s quite a lot of financial sacrifice! sure, but i don t have any use for that money. i mean, i m not denying myself, you know, the wor
Chuckles. the question is, are you frugal? um, you know, i don t have a gigantic closet. i don t, you know, wearjewellery. you make me feel very self conscious. but most of this is fake. like when i m unwrapping a present, i don t take the wrapping and, you know, fold it up and use it again. you know, if i use a paper bag, i my grandmother never threw a paper bag in her life or any string on a package, so, by her standards, i m crazy. i just take the bag and i put it in the garbage. in 1994, you were asked by the new yorker if you worried that wealth would corrupt you. and you said something very interesting. you said, absolutely. hey, being in the spot. hey, being in the spot. this is me doing my bill gates impression. you said absolutely. hey, being in the spotlight is a corrupting thing. being successful is a corrupting thing. having lots of money is a corrupting thing. these are very dangerous things to be guarded