so we all thought that they were going to come up, so. the shock was delayed by about 10 hours or so. by the time they were supposed to be up again. there was a time, i don t remember the time, but where it was supposed to be up on the surface again. and when that time passed, that s when the real shock then not shock, but when the worry and the not so good feeling started. did you have hope throughout the search? yes, we had lots of hope. i think that was the only thing that got us through it, because we were hoping and there was. we talked about things the pilots can do, like dropping weights. you know, there were so many actions that people on the sub can do in order to surface. so we went. it was like this roller coaster. i don t know, like a wave we went through. so first, yeah, they would drop the weights, but then the ascent will be slower. so we were hoping for that and we were like, 0k. and then we were constantly looking at the surface. and so there was that hope. a