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u.s. senator bernie sanders from the state of vermont and we are delighted to be here with author ira shapiro, and we are going to talk about the new book the last great set courage and statesmanship in times of crisis published by public affairs. welcome. guest: thank you, senator. thanks for doing this. host: let me start off with a hard question, who are you? what is your background and how did you get into this book? guest: line from new yorker originally, born in new york, grew up on long island, a product of the 60 s that interested in politics during the 60 s responding to the civil rights issue of the time and that ultimately to vietnam when the war was the dominant while we were in college, graduated 1969 and actually from brandeis university actually one day after graduation was able to start as the senate in turn for jacob javits for the summer. i guess i was impressionable but it made a big impression on me and i decided to go to law school and came back i

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