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case. people who had their campaigns funded by david macintosh and club for growth are not listening to him. they re not listening to former president trump so do they really have the influence that they think they have? yeah, chaos feeds on chaos, happy birthday, congressman. we ll go up to the capitol to manu raju and, manu, tell us about the key meeting of these rebels, of these conservative holeouts happening right now. tell us more. reporter: this can be a pivotal meeting. several members we are looking closely to see how they will vote are holed up in emmer s office, a member of the republican leadership. it includes chip roy, scott perry, byron donalds, dan bishop, all people who have not three of the four haven t indicated how they may vote on this particular round. i asked byron donalds himself who first had been nominated here in this ballot whether he will vote for himself. he refused to say. he would not say whether he would vote for himself. you guys ....
Doors and that all we re getting i asked him if you heard are you going to vote for kevin mccarthy here, he said, you know, not really a comment other than they re having private meetings behind closed doors and shows you how significant this moment is. the mccarthy team knows they have to get some support back from their side, go from the 20 opponents, maybe they can get down to 17, 18 or 19. some deal they can cut as they ve been trying over the last day intensely. but it s not clear if they are they there. they re not committing right now. manu, because your connection isn t great, who did you talk to? was that chip roy? that was chip roy. so chip roy and the reason we re watching chip roy thank you, manu. appreciate it. let s talk more with our panel here. the reason we re all watching chip roy is because he is one of the 20 rebels who seems to have an opposition to voting for mccarthy based in wanting to ....